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Right, but that’s including a factory applied OC if so, it’s not the true VFcurve. To find out what your real core offset is on both Astrals, you have to subtract their stock idle speed from 180Mhz. Nvidia spec 5090 idle is 180Mhz. So, if your card idles any bit over 180Mhz, you have to subtract that from your 2977Mhz which correlates your real VFcurve. If your card idles 190Mhz it’s 2967@1085mv If your card idles at 230Mhz it’s 2927@1085mv. Anything on top of 180Mhz is a overclock on top of the default clock pre-applied through the bios from the AIB. @electrosoft 5090 Astrals can have different idles. Crazy I know. But they can! So this can skew the default VF curve and what it actually may be. See below.

@electrosoft The Astral in that video was just like yours! It too was 1115mv@2977. Anyways, you need to subtract your idle clocks to get a fair comparison between these Astral's VFcurve. So, my FE is idle 172-180Mhz. The Astral might idle at 226Mhz-262Mhz which would mean you need to subtract to get your correct VFcurve. Your cards might idle at a different frequency. This is all for fair comparison if you are comparing Astral's. So, whatever your idle is over +180, that is how much you will subtract from your VFcurve.. If I go just +75 on my core my cards 1065mv point is now 2,997 , my card would also idle at 240Mhz. Anyways, so with Astral typically its 225-262Mhz is idle but I heard it varies. So, if your 1085MV is 2,970Mhz. This number is inflated by your factory OC which is inflating the VFcurve. So, Check your idle clocks, subtract until you get 180 then subtract the difference from your Vfcurve point, and that is your true VFcurve. Idle Clock Speed= 232Mhz 232-180= 52 Original VFcurve 2,977@1.115mv Minus 52= 2925Mhz. "True 1.125MV Vf Curve= 2925" ^This is just an example. But, I would definitely bench these two cards head to head. Not that the voltage matters all that much. I personally am after a high VFcurve regardless of what its max voltage is or may be. Also, make sure its on OC bios, that will affect its VFcurve directly. Also, do not discount that lower voltage card. It may do very well. My FE does very well it's only a 1050mv/1075mv. But so long as your VFcurve is good, it does not matter what the heck your max voltage is. You are going to have to put the pedal to the metal on both Astrals in Steel Nomad/Port Royal and see which one wins! Who knows, they could clock the same. I want to see some numbers!!! 😀

Just imagine 6090. It will attract every scalper in the world. And it will be $2,999.99 for 6090FE. I think 5090 is my last GPU. PC gaming is coming to an end for the masses. We better enjoy these last 2 years.

How come you are not running the 4090 Suprim with that fresh new waterblock in the X870 Apex rig? That waterblock looks amazing. I wanted one of those for my 4090. I love the full enclosure design. They are a little more expensive than the basic Alphacool Blocks, but you go and look at a review of those. And that Alphacool Core block actually matches the ($500 dollar) EKWB double sided BPSP blocks. Could you share some temps of that block, and also show your water temp?

I remember Star Wars outlaws giving the 4090 a serious work out. And with the 5090 it seems like the performance difference is huge! I never played with Outlaw graphics settings daily before, but the 5090 laughs at this game. I think they have done some optimization as well. Starwars Outlaws with "Outlaw" Graphic settings uses power just like Steel Nomad benchmark! This is some serious power consumption, and a serious Ray Tracing work out! FE is in a closed case only reach 50% fan speed at 600W. My card never reaches power levels like this in a game! So it must be something serious I suppose. If something were to burn, this is where it’ll happen lol.

My card is just an FE so nothing spectacular! That guy with 1.125v FE card benches his on cold air, GPU temps in 40’s at 15,750 in Steel Nomad, I can’t really compete with that man. I can break 15,600 in Steel Nomad with GPU temps in 60’s. But I haven’t tried any cold air yet though. 🤷‍♂️

I don’t really like that color and scheme. Standard Astral or Astral LC is fine. Asus and their colors that add thousands is ridiculous man. Remember the “White Strix Phase” if it was white and was a Strix it added like $500-$800 to the price 🤣

Honestly, says 5/16, but I’m not sure how concrete that is. I did not order from EKWB. I got mine from Aquatuning in UK. 🇬🇧 I expect Aqua tuning to receive their B2B orders first before customers buying direct “1 Block” from EKWB getting theirs first. Aquatuning is a bigger customer (Sad but probably true) 😎

Well, I’m sure it’ll probably drop a huge amount off of the tiny 2 slot air cooler temps. The 5090 FE PCB is super thick so contact pressure should be great. I hope it’s good.

Look at that 5090FE block!! Beautiful. I ordered mine last month, so we’ll see.

If you could share a bios from the RTX 6000 Pro that would be very appreciated. No one has uploaded one.

I’m gonna go ahead and shunt my card. @johnksss look at this dudes 5090 FE with shunt. https://www.3dmark.com/sn/5906892

@Talon I found the place that sells the RTX 6000 Pro for $7,750. (if you’re curious) apparently you submit a quote. And I also heard some were quoted less than that. 🙂 https://www.exxactcorp.com/category/LATTICEPT-M-Star-Optimized-Solutions Looks great! Packed to the max.

No kidding. I remember buying my 4090 for $1,350 literally 6 months before 5090 came out, and everyone was like: “Why are you buying this high end GPU so late in the cycle, these are gonna be $500-$600 bucks soon” 🤣🤣🤣 I loved it well for 6 solid months, and sold it for $1,500 and that alone was priced so low some people thought it was a scam lol. So you probably will get all your money back. Maybe it’s best to sell 1 month after the 6090 already launches. Then people get a little desperate.

Well, I think they are going to be even more power limited than a RTX 5090. We have 96GB of GDDR7, and more cuda cores. But they are still faster. They also have the ECC enabled just like the RTX 4090. From what I have learned, this can be turned off through NVCP just like the 4090’s. I think the cards can be overclocked. But they are expensive. But nothing like we’ve ever seen before. A true work station GPU that can compete/beat the gamer parts! And it’s not $20,000 dollars. @electrosoft I found the PCB of the actual RTX 6000 Pro “Work station Edition with the 600w power limit” and it’s legit a 5090 FE twin, Nvidia made it even denser and soldered the vram right on the backside. Crazy! I feel like we’d only be able to find better deals on these in the future. Nice to see the RTX 6000 Pro is usable as an all around beast though.

I think if I actually needed or had a use for 96GB of vram, and I was seriously wanting to spend that much money on a single RTX 6000 Pro , I’d absolutely rather have (4) RTX 5090 FE’s for only $7,999.99 instead. And then have 128GB GDDR7. Or buy (3) for $5,999.99 and have the same VRAM capacity. You’d be able to leverage so much more power with multiple 5090’s than a single RTX 6000 Pro. I think Nvidia should have priced this GPU at no more than $4,499.99. The FE is just too good of a deal, and it makes the 6000 Pro seem INSANE lol. It would be for science! And it would be so much fun to see what one could actually do. I guess they are like 8% faster? Or are they even faster than that?

The 5090 definitely runs Crysis lol.

I wish someone would share the differences. The cooler is different on both sides. The Pro model has heatsink fin material on the opposite side where the fans are. I’m also curious about the bios on these Pro 6000 cards! It’s 600w straight, vs 575w. I feel like the RTX 6000 Pro is not a complete flow through based on the PCB pics. It can’t possibly be. It would be like a partial flow through design. But I‘m not completely sure.

I think @Talon has deep enough pockets and was considering one. 😀 @papusan I think most of these are sold by distributors, and you have to get a quote from someone. Based on the Quotes I have seen $7,000-$8,000 USD. So, it's not too crazy for a 96GB VRAM GPU that is the fastest graphics card in the world!

They are truly amazing GPU’s. I am curious how the PCB looks. It would be nice to get a look at one of these or see a review, the price is crazy, but for a 96GB 5090FE it’s not that outrageous. They have dual rank memory which also performs slightly better than single rank. I’m wondering how double sided 96GB GDDR7 would run on a 5090FE cooler. I’m just extremely curious about these. If it has same design as 5090 FE, how the heck did they fit 96GB on the backside? 😃

That RTX 6000 Pro (96GB) looks very nice right? My goodness, apparently they are like $7,700 at the cheapest. But what an awesome GPU.

The factory 5090FE cooler is amazing. What’s crazy is that we could actually fit a 5090 FE inside of a laptop. Since the I/O is hooked up via ribbon cable, and same for PCIe X16 connection. And since the main PCB is its own small piece. These connections could be hooked up anywhere. I don’t understand why laptop manufacturers haven’t done this years ago. We can easily put desktop power in a laptop. With no massive motherboard with big BGA chips soldered on. Full on 9800X3D desktop chip inside a laptop. I cannot imagine what Nvidia 6090 will look like.

YUK! That poor card! My goodness. His build was really clean looking too! I’m surprised he’d chop an FE up this way. I’m kinda OCD and I like things looking clean. Based on the rest of his build, I really don’t think he’s gonna be happy with it in a day/week. I would not modify stock cooler, just apply the shunt to give us 1,050-1,200 watts. Revert back to stock, or wait for EKWB block. He got it working though. And I think the FE really needs better cooler for full potential.

I love my PC case. 😛

I cannot believe the power of (2) HWLab GTX 480's with P28 Fans. And this setup is only using fans on one side! All in a closed case. My case temp idle is 25c, and my idle water temp is also 25c. But under a CPU load for 10 minutes my case temp increases to 28c and the top rad water is 29c and basement rad water is 29.7c. This is with a 3175X at 700-800 watt CPU load dumping that heat into my water. Honestly, it may even be more power than that. Its power reporting maxes out at 540 watts on the 3175x. It has enough juice to pull my 12v below 12v and my 5090 can never dream of even doing this. (Maybe when its shunt modded) But this loop without push/pull is ridiculously good. The water temp is reaching 1.0c or 1.7c over internal case temperature, I am running (4) D5 pumps with about 50% speed on them all. 😃 The power of BIG quality rads is amazing, and so is the power of a big case with good fans! This loop will easily handle the RTX5090 and this CPU combined. Of course, the CPU is never cranking 700+ watts sustained unless you YEET all cores lol. Typically, 120-250 in games.