jaybee83

that goes without saying! 😄 hopelessly power-starved left right n center!

hm depends....one might argue that since im reaching 600W with far less voltage my chip is extra leaky 😄 but ure right in that i have no idea how much the voltage values this gen correlate to overclocking capabilities. i just know its currently looking quite chaotic and all over the place, hard to judge. bumped down another 5 mhz on the core, now at +355 offset. had soft crashes / CTDs in Deliver Us Mars. this game is quite the stability test lol

bro @Papusan time to throw out that cheap garbage peasant Astral LC of yours, your actual 5090 sku just dropped: https://www.techpowerup.com/335948/galaxs-hof-oc-lab-launches-geforce-rtx-5090d-xoc-le-flagship-card-price-usd-4120 with that MSRP im sure u can buy it in norway for a measly 10k+😄

totally get it and i must say i agree with it. while i wouldnt have gotten an FE im also not gonna start binning 5090s lol. i know i might not have the best overclocked in this card but i also know its definitely not bottom of the barrel. sure i might be well off compared to many other ppl but doesnt mean i can pump out tens of thousands of bucks just to bin some gpus 😄 with RAM, now thats another story 😉 especially now when RAM prices seem to really bottom out!

aight boiz, time for daddy to do some tinkering this weekend. conductonaut extreme arrived today, hopefully the TG putty pro will be here by tomorrow, as well 🙂 CPU & GPU cooling upgrade incoming!

u got enough storage there bud? 😄 (i know i know, look whos talking! 😛 glad im not the only SSD fanatic here hahaha) hm you mean to say that manually locking in a higher voltage might help push it up? where does yours land at full stock vs. locking it in manually?

no dice on unlocked vRAM OC, that is hardlocked in the vBios. so well need the XOC vBios including that special sauce software to drive it... and yeah, can confirm from what ive seen, voltages of a card dont change when flashing different vbios versions. however, there might be different boosting behaviour in terms of power spikes that the card is allowed to do.

wondering though if this difference in max reachable voltage actually gives u guys anything extra? especially with that power limit in place... now, where did i put that XOC vbios again....must be somewhere here..... 😛

welp thats the sucky thing, it can get you out of nowhere, even if u had no issues beforehand whatsoever. im happily chugging along on 572.83 while others are crash n burning on it 😄 shouldnt be this way...this is not the way really sounds more and more like its driver-related then. was the hard reset overclocking related? duuuuude, that card looks crazy! mine only does 1.01V at stock with clocks around 2825 Mhz, with voltage slider maxed it goes up to 1.025V 😄 those voltages are insane! ive only seen maybe 1-2 other cards that can break through 1.1V, u definitely have a special one there. 3000+ Mhz at stock, crazy... and yes ive noticed the same, voltages are all over the place, heavily depending on what ure running and even fluctuate wildly during sessions / bench runs. thats even the case if the power limit hasnt even been reached yet. not sure whats going on, hope this is smth that can be rectified with drivers / vbios updates.... overall, its total chaos when it comes to clocks and voltages, every card is so different among 5090s, both in wattage/clocks/voltage, way more variance than with the 4090. those 630W, are those transient spikes or peak load? i might have to give your vbios a go, pls share with the class! 😄 keep us in the loop on your findings, highly interested 🙂

LOL aint nobody got time for that@clean install. besides, my current setup IS pretty fresh, i installed it shortly before i got the 9950X3D, so its barely 2 months old 😛 and yes for me thats fresh, i used to do yearly clean installs, but nowadays i just go with every hardware refresh 😄 gotta prioritize that precious little freetime as a dad... ill bide my time for now regarding drivers, 572.83 has been pretty good thus far, with the only caveat being those hard system freezes during stability testing. but since ive dialed in my D2D settings, im good. and yeah, ive been following the same philosophy forever now: upgrade, sell off parts, add some pocket money here and there, ready to go for the next upgrade cycle 🙂 works like a charm! so lets see, next steps in tuning for me would be: - get like 5-10 RAM kits in the 8000-8400 range (incl a CUDIMM 9600 kit, just out of curiosity) and bin them for my CPU/mobo combo - get some TG thermal putty pro and fill out the gap beneath the backplate for some thermal improvements. after checking igorslab review, specifically thermal conductivity of the thermal pads and paste on the vRAM/VRMs/core, wouldnt make much sense to take the card apart and replace those. but backplate is no biggie, should shave off a few degrees here and there i reckon. - get some TG conductonaut extreme and delid my 9950X3D before doing some ocing on it. the way i see it, with binned RAM and an overclocked 5090, ill likely need all the CPU juice i can get to be able and keep up! so much to do, so little time....

duuuude....who TF came up with that silly idea to update drivers?! OMFG! i just spent several hours getting my system to properly boot up again! so i ran DDU to prepare for the 576.15 install, rebooted aaaand....blackscreen O.o switched to iGPU....still blackscreen. BUT WAIT, i can see the mouse cursor! at least sometimes LOL but no dice, had to use my lady's machine, prep a win RE usb drive, manually inject AMD RAID drivers to access my storage, then tried to run system restore, STILL NO DICE. so i ran startup repair and....finally an image! then i reran system restore from before running DDU inside the system and now all is well again. yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah, im sticking to 572.83 for the time being. seems to me that DDU isnt up to snuff yet with the latest drivers, holy guacamole what a shit show NVIDIA! fix ur crap! /rant

HA! A SINGLE SPOT WITH 99% GPU AND BELOW 240 FPS! 6090 JUSTIFIED! 🤣 "the bane of my existence" had to rofl at that 😄 as i said, VERY curious to see the results with my current oc, will keep u in the loop. for me its been hard freezes requiring a reboot every. single. time. not even one recovery thus far! very annoying! while playing Deliver Us Mars yesterday i marveled at the clocks, i was basically running the same 3030-3100 Mhz core clocks as with the 4090 before, only now with 33% more cores and GDDR7 pushed to 34 Gbps....this is just pure, unadultared fun! 😄 edit: hate to burst ur TSE bubble, but i just passed a 1h loop of it at my +360 core oc 😄 all good!

some very interesting points u made here, sir! first up, ill give TSE GT2 looped a go, curious to see what happens 😄 will report back. and yes, i follow the same logic, its stable until the next game / application 😄 1kW vbios daily, you say? thats what i did with my 4090 for....i dunno, close to two years? flashed it right when it came out, never looked back 😄 as mentioned, the locked voltage helps keep things in check 🙂 although i DO expected the 5090 to probably max out even a 1kW vbios in some cases LOL with the 4090 i "only" went up to like 750-800W in some usage scenarios. BUT, cooling on the 5090 is even beefier, so im catiously optmistic in this regard. nevertheless, its all talk until we actually get to stretch out gpu legs, power limit wise... the recovery point u bring up is VERY interesting. i am currently scratching my head a bit as to why the 5090 cannot recover from an unstable OC. the 4090 did so very competently, but with the 5090 thus far i only get a system freeze that i need to manually reset. otherwise no dice. u say this is not the case with 576.02? might be driver related then... i might give 576.15 a go, now that the temp sensor issue seems to be fixed. 5090 is a beast indeed. and i can only repeat myself: i am astounded at how quiet my battlestation is under full load with the 9950X3D + 5090, never thought this was possible... admittedly, havent oced the CPU yet, but its also still full stock, not delidded yet 😄 still lots to do!

lol nah i couldnt be bothered with such seasonal profiles 😄 i just want a stable D2D OC once all the initial tuning is done 🙂 did the same, started with a quick n dirty +300/+350/+400, noticed 400 onwards was unstable so now backing down bit by bit. currently at +360 and stable thus far. what were ur last stress tests that showed instability on your side? did a bunch of transcoding yesterday without issues. fun fact: on the 4090 i couldnt do transcoding and gaming at the same time, gpu clocks would be locked to idle or slightly above that (dont as me why, no idea to this day!) and system RAM usage would max out. now with my new SSD setup (PCIe 4.0 vs. SATA before for media storage) and the 5090 system RAM usage is only at 50% and gpu clocks are unaffected. sooooo, gaming session while transcoding in the background, thats the stuff! 🙂 yup i feel ya. wanna enjoy the card a bit before doing too much non-stock tinkering on it haha 😄 besides, as of yet not really worth it without an XOC vbios. as u mentioned, the only vbios worth trying atm would be the Astral one, ive seen some user reports with up to 5% perf. boost going from stock vbios oced to stock astral vbios. seemed a bit sus to me, esp. since it was a lower-tier card (dont rembember, i think it was a palit? or a tuf?), but worth investigating. in any case, thats what a dual vbios card is for, no risk of bricking 🙂 one of the reasons why an FE would never end up in my shopping basket. even with a 1kW XOC vbios the card would be voltage limited far before there would be any risk of it going up in flames (naturally, assuming psu/cable is up to snuff lol).

another game = another stress test 😄 i just started playing Deliver Us Mars and turns out my core OC aint stable. so back to the drawing board! just thought Id let you guys know in case ure looking for a nice stability test for gpu oc 😛 stable thus far (increasing order of difficulty to get OC stable) Alan Wake 2 Titanfall 2 3DM Speedway Unity Enemies and now Deliver Us Mars. 60 min. each btw at 4K maxed out. edit: and done, lost -10 Mhz on the core OC to get it stable in Deliver Us Mars. Now for some gaming without crashes 🙂

so i installed gpu tweak III after bro @Mr. Fox pointer and also some reports that the enhanced OC setting might allow for higher vRAM OC. no dice tho, still only capable of +3000 or up to 34 Gbps. uninstalled again, sticking with PX1.

keep me in the loop as to your results when u get to the "hard stuff" 😄

thats ok, as long as everyone's happy with their purchase we can focus on crapping all over NGreedia 😄 so, enough benching / stress testing / tuning for now, first gaming session with the 5090 tonight 🙂

function over form! 😄 first and foremost, i got the Suprim because of its superior cooling, the sleek non-gamery looks only came in second 😛 but yeah, as i said before: when spending this ridonkulous amount of money, i make sure i get what i actually want, and not just "anything that is currently available".

yeaaaah F that, staying on 572.83 for the time being 😄 now that i think about it, the meager perf. increase in AW2 is probably due to the shitty drivers....

havent seen one yet either 😄 id be curious to see how far one could go. based on XOC results ive seen at 35+ Gbps we "shouldnt" be loosing out on too much bandwidth, but any artificial clock block is just wrong... im still on 572.83. hm, what kinda clock penalty are we talking here on 576.02? now ure making me not want to update as badly anymore 😄 dude, a clean install a month? LOL aint nobody got time for that 😄 got some more bench data for you guys: 4090 OC vs. 5090 OC Alan Wake II 4K maxed out with DLSS Quality Tested 6 different savegames, avg. fps listed 66 fps vs. 72 fps = +9.6% for the 5090 OC something is definitely funky here, when checking reviews im seeing roughly 30-35% uplift in AW2 with RT. no idea whats up with this, will have to look into this further. Titanfall II 4K maxed out incl. adaptive resolution Tested 15 different savegames, avg. fps listed 143 fps vs. 185 fps = +30% for the 5090 OC now this is more like it! Last but not least, i did some test transcoding. Converted a total of 6 episodes of a tv show at 1080p to get to a smaller filesize without much quality loss (HEVC H.265 via NVENC), using Xmedia Recode. 4090 = 5971 seconds = 1h 39m 31s 5090 = 3086 seconds = 51m 26s thats a whopping 94% performance boost a.k.a. almost halving of the transcoding time, NICE! im guessing this is likely a combo of 50% more NVENC units (3 vs. 2) and the vastly increased vRAM bandwidth. me likey 🙂

exactly. and the noise level on this thing is virtually non-existent. i barely notice any difference between idle and load LOL has probably something to do with the fact that my case sports a total of 14 fans 😄

"the juice wasnt worth the squeeze" - love that quote, gotta keep that in mind for future reference LOL

welcome to the 5090 club bro, its about time 🙂 heard good things about the trio thus far, hope it treats you well! do tell us how its going with it. screaming for more powah 100%. what im seeing thus far is that im hitting the power limit WAY earlier than the voltage limit in most cases. one exception is Unity Enemies (UE5 tech demo), which lets the card ramp up to roughly 550W so its able to stretch its legs clockwise and holds steady around 3150 Mhz on the core at +370 (my confirmed D2D stable btw, +375 turned out to be unstable in Unity Enemies). thats why im absolutely HOPING for the XOC vbios to drop at some point. not planning to shunt mod this card. PX1 is standalone. everything i have is standalone. i dont even have a steam account 🤣 and yeah, for custom fan curves im using AB, PX1 unfortunately doesnt help there. havent tested max settings for short benches yet. gimme a list of benches ud want to see and ill check it out for you 🙂 VRAM is easy, cant go further than +3000 and its stable haha 😄 so only core left to finetune in this regard. my 4090 D2D was at +190 / +1525 so basically the same as yours. u know, funny that u mention that with the astral vbios. ive seen reports that although the astral vbios sports the same 600W limit, it somehow allows for a bit higher peak voltage and also has higher / more frequent 600+ W peaks. might be worth a try 🙂 havent checked for transients yet, those 610W peaks i mentioned before was just manual eyeballing via the Nvidia overlay during stress testing. so will need to do some more detailed monitoring with HWInfo. thats to be expected that your FE stays overall lower in voltage, with on average higher temps at load it would downclock a tad more and thus use a lower point on the V/F curve. bouncing off the 600W limit is basically all i see on my end....i guess our game library is a bit different 😄 not planning to do any undervolting, rather interested in the max stable clocks at max voltage 😛 however i WOULD be interested in a vbios with a much lower minimum power limit i could clamp down. the Suprim performance vbios only lets me go down to 67%, equivalent to 400W peak wattage. i would prefer 25-33% or equivalent to 150-200W for regular desktop use / light loads / transcoding workloads. how are those 576 drivers treating ya? havent updated yet, wanted to finish all my testing first with the same driver base. edit: good news on the ebay front, i just sold my 5x Samsung 860 Evo 4TB disks all at once to a buyer in France. total fees at 5% 🙂 pricing was also very good, managed to sell them at 90% of the price i paid for them about 5-6 years ago (new) 😄

i started off with bone stock testing to get a feel of the card first, i.e. no voltage or PL adjustments whatsoever. +3000 / 34Gbps on vRAM is still stable, and i think ive hit a stability wall at +375 on the core. anything above that, i.e. +380 and the system locks up during stress tests after about 10-15 min. depending on the load and resolution im getting anywhere between 2500 and 3000+ Mhz on the core under load. max core temps always go to 68C, with fans adjusting accordingly and PL always maxed out, bouncing off the 600W limit. i sometimes see it go up to 610W or so, but the 600W limit is pretty hard nonetheless. core voltages are again dependent on the type of load, max. im seeing at idle / light loads is 1.025V with min under load around 0.950V, im guessing i got a very non-leaky silicon that has low peak voltage. ive seen other spike up to 1.09 or so. in conclusion, the 5090 is hopelessly power-starved and in desperate need of a 1kW vbios... ive got two more stability sessions to go through before i call +375/+3000 stable enough for D2D. any fine adjustments / corrections in specific games notwithstanding, that is. after that ill go through my benchmark suite once more to check and see what kinda uplifts im seeing vs. 5090 stock / 4090 OC / 4090 stock. oh btw, i HAVE heard some coil whine now! 😄 that was in titanfall 2 at 1080p and 600+ FPS 🤣 but even then its very slight, totally wouldnt hear it when gaming with headphones on. so nothing to worry about really. as for ebay, ive also been selling there for 23 years now. the experiences are pretty much the same as yours, theres always gonna be a few hiccups / idiots here and there but overall ive always come out pretty solid. the ebay fees also arent so bad, at least not here. they are dependend on where the sale goes to, i.e. national sales are free (no fees whatsoever), inside the EU there are fees but still quite low and only when i sell outside the EU the fees go up to "standard" levels, so to say. however, im fine with that, since the overall customer audience / geographical reach is just without competition.