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I am also not quite sure why there is so much excitement for people with a 75x or 77x Clevo, guess the power draw is still tempting. Given price and availability I would say that if 150W power draw is OK then the 3080 mobile will perform better and it has 16GB memory and it can be nice to upgrade from a 2070 or a 1080. 2080 less so and could be decided based on a number of factors. The 4070 is more interesting while still maintaining a really low power uptake so again nice for people who are power constrained. For a substantial jump in performance it will still be necessary to get the 4080.
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If you have enough gaming performance with the current CPU then leave it as is. No reason to spend more money on something that is relatively costly and could also go wrongπ
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Oh man, that is one pathetic CPU π Of course the question is if it matters in real world gaming, does it?
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The connectors parts are the same physically with regard to the case openings required as the SM-G also has two connectors in the same form factor, namely one USB-C that also doubles as a display port and one that is just a regular USB-C connector. Still there is obviously a risk that something will not work somewhere, maybe best to let the guys look over it who repaired your SM-G. You can check out the reviews at notebookcheck, they should have a picture from all three sides of the laptop. Presonally I would not do it as I prefer to have 10 cores and 4 SSDs which is not possible with the SM-G chassis so I would check out if a 10 Core Xeon is working with the mainboard.
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OK, just checked my KM-G and SM-G and the connectors line up just fine, just have to remember that the KM-G has two Thunderbolt on the side vs one on the back for the SM-G π As for the mounting positions for the board itself there are plenty of pictures online so you will not have a difficult time finding them.
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Not sure if that upgrade is possible, best to check all connectors and how the main board is mounted. I have seen that board, pricing is pretty good!
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Do you think it is a power uptake limitation? I would not be surprised about that. If it is "only" an issue with K-Processors then you could look into getting one of the fast Xeons that go up to over 5 Ghz, like the W-1290P that can be had for not so much money and goes up to I think 4.8GHz all cores and 5.3 single core. I have no idea though if it is supported, maybe check with @Prema. Or maybe it is power and you cannot use 125W CPUs any more. Then you could check out a 10900F with 5.2/4.6 single and all core and 65W. It is quite a bit more costly though than the 125W 1290P. In any case I would try to work around the CPU issue instead of getting a new motherboard, too much money and work if you can get enough performance out of another CPU.
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Sorry to hear that, this sucks π Of course it is nice that the 10700T is working but a max clock of 4.5GHz is really disappointing, probably more like 4.0 or 4.1 all core? Which K Processor does not work, the 10900K? And has that CPU been verified to work in another system?
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Good to know, especially considering the price they charge!
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Already done, the trick is to find it at a good price: https://de.aliexpress.com/i/1005004496501848.html?gatewayAdapt=glo2deu
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And those temps are low already - the 3080 at stock helps a lot as it has 35W lower power consumption than the 2080s that this chassis was designed for. In my opinion this is a very well balanced system and it also runs very quiet up to about 200W power consumption with only a little help from external cooling fans.
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Those are ridiculously low temps especially for the GPU but doesn't it essentially relegate the X170 to desktop status?
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Great to see some activity in this thread! I have used the Raider 18HX for some time now and was quite happy with using S4 state - it takes longer to enter and get out of but it is also very reliable. I always deactivate fast boot, too and maybe that also plays a role. The important thing as always is to only enter whatever mode is desired with power disconnected and I also found the Raider to take some time until it would enter hibernate mode. For mine it is easy to note when it enters hibernate as only then the fans stop running - I have set them to always on.
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Not desperate at all, Clevo Fan Control works just fine for the X170 chassis and I assume for the P775, too. I do not like CCC because: it is not very well written and does stuff in a non-reliable way or even not at all its whole mode of operation feels clumsy and non-intuitive it messes with things it should not mess with it is hideous for a program that has been in use for so long and for enthusiasts machines the configurability and ease of access to presets is very disappointing and unworthy of an enthusiast product, Clevo should have bought the Obsidian software when Obsidian went out of business as clearly they are unable to write proper software for their own products did I mention it is hideous? its garish colors and completely overblown size would be a reason for me to look for something else even if it was working
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Never used Obsidian fan control myself in the paid version. I never liked the restriction to only one specific laptop instead of being able to move the software to another machine. Also when I was interested for the first time Obsidian already seemed to be on the way out of the laptop business.
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I suggest to try Clevo Fan Control. It is not a better alternative than a working version of the Obsidian Fan Control but overall I found it to be the next best option and it is free.
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P750DM-(G) Dsanke BIOS does not work with BGA1440 CPUs
1610ftw replied to Alex69's topic in Sager & Clevo
When you can get it cheaper that is a very good reason to get it but the poster I answered to wanted to get it to use less power and for that the 9980HK is not a good option. As you have one can you also comment on the chip height? I seem to remember it was a bit higher than standard Coffee Lake (refresh) height so whoever wants to use it may run into issues with a a laptop with a unified heatsink but then may this is not a much of an issue or there are different designs out there. -
Cooling won't be a problem as the 1080s in the GT83 are the full fat 200W version and from what I recall all the MXM 2080s from MSI were limited to 150W. Pretty sure though that extensive modifications of the cooling system will be necessary, not to talk about making the GT83 recognize the 2080 cards.
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If you unlock the last official bios from Clevo you will find it in the options. It is discussed in some detail in the KM-G thread.
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Looks good, nice combo of temps and score! With a 200W power draw you will get closer to 15500 but that is only of interest if you like CPU benching π
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Not so sure you are that limited thermally as to not make use of a 9900K - it usually is better silicone and you could limit all core speed to not exceed the power uptake of your 8700K which at up to 150W is quite substantial π The heatsink for the 20xx and 30xx GPUs looks very nice indeed and I see that you got very good temperatures for the CPU and GPU in your Time Spy run! Taobao has a bunch of fans. Probably best to get the ones that are supposed to have maximum airflow and if needed reduce their speed.
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Great job and that CPU score and total score in Time Spy will skyrocket with a 9900K but you know that π Which heatsink did you get from Ali Express?
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I see two systems here with the 11700K and heat issues and the problem is that the 11700K most of the time is a badly binned 11900K which needs a lot of power anyway. Without undervolting and at up to 5 GHz one will see lots of power consumption for little added gain. With temperatures going very high and the system shutting off several things may apply: 1. the CPU power limit is reached 2. the system power limit is reached 3. the CPU temperature limit is reached Looking at a temp of 98Β°C and up to 200W power consumption I would suggest to limit CPU power consumption to between 150 and 165W and adjust the CPU accordingly with Throttlestop for something like this: Cores 1 to 2: 49 or 50 Cores 2 to 4: 49 Cores 5 to 6: 48 Cores 7 to 8: 45 or 46 depending what is needed to go to lower power consumption. Start with a -75 undervolt and take it from there, maybe you can get back up a bit with the multipliers but it is a starting point. To give an idea of possible savings I tested a 10850K that would take up to 222W at 4.7GHz effective all core speed and with an undervolt it would go to less than 170W and I would expect it to be stable at 180W at most. Going down to 4.6GHz from there would have resulted in another reduction in power consumption of around 15W so with a performance reduction of about 2% and undervolting it was possible to go from 222W to about 165W for a ca. 25% reduction in power consumption with effectively no meaningful loss in performance. That is a lot less heat and imo it is the way to go for longevity and more stable gaming and productive use, too.
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Sorry to hear that π Do you have a high rez pictures of the inside? It would help to have big pictures of the QC code on the fans. Have you checked out the HP disassembly videos on YouTube? A quick search brings out a bunch of Omen 16 videos: https://www.youtube.com/@HPSupport/search?query=omen 16 And what does it say on the fan you got, do they show a product number?
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Just moved around some files via my GT75 with 10G ethernet and found a nice Time Spy score. The GPU score was pretty much near the top of the 1080 / 8750H combo at the time but the CPU score was hampered by only having one memory stick on the other side of the mainboard and I wasn't going to take it apart to make it dual channel: https://www.3dmark.com/spy/37523217