1610ftw
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You only like it because you came in second 😉 Just kidding but for now I am not interested because All my previous benchmarks were in TimeSpy. Not enough scores for comparison as currently Steel Nomad DX12 has 340 scores while TimeSpy has more than 360000 - I prefer to compare with as many scores as possible.
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Not sure how you try to do 4K 120 - via HDMI or MDP connector? And that is a nice score - 13000 is near 🙂 The temperature looks quite high though, is that with max fans? For benching I always use max fans to have a better base for comparison. In any case you may want to go to 180 / 720 and reduce the GPU temperature at the same time, it should not go higher than 70C if you want max performance and for anything up to 175W that should not be an issue.
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I doubt that this has much to do with what you are trying to do here. No mention of LGA CPUs or 11900K.
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For starters try something like +150 clock and +600 memory in MSI Afterburner. There is no risk as power uptake will be limited.
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12400 at default looks pretty good and power uptake seems to be a bit higher this time with up to 157W. You may want to experiment a bit with MSI Afterburner to see how much higher you can get and also to see if power goes even higher. Have you tried gaming on the internal display to see if G-Sync works?
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Hehe, try a TimeSpy run then (normal version) and let us know your score, preferably with and without MSI Afterburner. I am sure it will be better than the 2080s. I also would do a backup now before you try other stuff as at least you seem to have G-Sync. I also do not think that with a card that is out of warranty you have to have the boost option when you may as well do a shunt mod instead and get more power irrespective of boost settings. @Meaker has done it already with this GPU so you may want to check what he has done or you can be happy with still having an improvement and a lower power consumption than before.
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Even the desktop 2080s only had HDMI output with up to 4K 60 so I would not expect the X170SM-G to be able to output more than 4K 60 so that seems to be OK. Regarding the mini display ports 4K 120 is tricky due to bandwidth limitations - have you checked that it is outputting 12 bit 4:2:0? Anything more than that like RGB 8Bit will exceed the bandwidth limit of DP 1.4. On the monitor side there may also be an issue with accepting 12 Bit 4:2:0 so you may want to check that, too. TB3 gives you more options for the monitor but it will not be suitable for gaming at 4K 120, I would definitely stay away.
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Have you checked if it can output 4k 60 without issues? If it does keep it as is and even if not you have two display port outputs that have higher bandwidth and can go up to 4K 120 which is more interesting anyway so this is not really a pressing issue.
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See it as you project laptop - you still have the other unit after all 🙂 Also no matter what you do you may want to back up your system very regularly as that would allow you to go back to previous states like the one where it looked like G-Sync might be working. Personally I like to use Macrium Reflect for that and they should still have a 30 day trial version that will not cost you anything.
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I'd go with Normal. As @Bidelloman says there does not seem to be GSync anyway with those benchmarks but it will be interesting to see if it pulls more than 150W power, probably not. On the other hand even with 150W scores should be higher than the 2080s even with only 150W.
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Oh, it is that stupid new benchmark - no idea what this means 😄 So for now it looks like there is neither GSync nor the 15W GPU boost but please try regular TimeSpy and only use the built in display to verify. We have all used that before and it will be better suited for getting a good baseline. I take it also that you are in some kind of high/maximum performance mode?
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Congratulations @MaxxD GSync and 165W out of the box is fantastic! And please let us know if in operation you really have GSync working and a power consumption of up to 165W. With games I am not so sure if they will always pull that many watts but surely you could do a TimeSpy run as that definitely will go up to 165W if boost is working.
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Use the guide that @Bidelloman linked, it is by our own @ssj92
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Nah, if you do not use it already I would not bother for now. If you want to play with it later you can easily use ventoy with a bunch of linux isos and give them a whirl, very easy: Works on a pen drive but also on an external SSD.
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I would definitely do that, who knows what the seller did with the bios. If his bios skills were as good as his packaging skills... You may also want to check what @Pfudaniel did as he also has the Prema bios and the 3080 and it seems his system works fine.
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Yeah sorry, meant the bios of course. As you said NVcleanstall will hopefully do the trick in windows. It would also be interesting to check Linux performance - probably working out of the box without any tricks.
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I would not change a thing and first check out how it works if you let it run as is. I seem to remember that the Prema bios works with the 3080 out of the box so had bad luck with shipping but now you have very good luck with your bios 😄
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I would agree that what Jarrod said may have been premature as I would expect the upgradeable CPUs to be the ones that have barely been announced or that have yet to be announced so an announcement of a new laptop that has them would have been very early in the game especially for something that has not been done for a while. Regarding the upgradeable GPU this is even more true as they have been a thing of the past for even longer and at the show Nvidia has not said much about the upcoming 5000 series. So far there has been an announcement from Framework but it was before the show and there is no upgradeable GPU plus Framework is the only manufacturer that has done that before and has already been mentioned in Jarrod's video so it makes more sense that he expected something from another manufacturer: https://www.notebookcheck.net/Framework-Laptop-13-gets-Intel-Core-Ultra-7-165H-and-120-Hz-3-2-display-also-available-as-upgrade-kits.842591.0.html In any case we can always check back with him when the show is over.
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Yes indeed, I was tempted for a little while then added things up and quickly scrapped any thought of getting into yet another project that I am unlikely to really end up using when all is said and done - just not a fan of smaller screens and the other limitations of this chassis. It is still very puzzling that Clevo had the X170 chassis that was already fully developed and for the next generation decided to put both the big Intel and AMD chips (up to 12900K and 5950X) into smaller 15.6 laptops with inferior connectivity, functionality, power delivery and cooling.
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I strongly doubt that anything coming from XMG would not be from Clevo or Tongfang/Uniwill and yes it would be nice to see more serious releases from them. I have read in several places that Eluktronics were looking to release an 18" unit which would mean that hopefully later this year or next year we will see an 18" offering from TongFang/Uniwill.
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Gotta love that nice new gimmicky benchmark 😄
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OK, so first announcements / reports from Computex have so far not shown more modularity or anything like it for Acer, Asus and MSI. We have other candidates of course like: Clevo Dell/Alienware Framework HP Lenovo TongFang / Uniwill and some very unlikely candidates like Gigabyte / Aorus or Razer So it will be interesting to see what happens in the next days.
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Looks great! I am not a gamer but it looks like it may stretch the gaming life of your laptop by at least one if not two generations!
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Yes of course stupid typo as there is no KM-G with Prema bios 🙂 You will have to check with others as I never had the pleasure to have a unit with Prema bios. Never managed to get hold of him even though I got the zTecpc SM-G but with a replacement mobo.
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Intel 13th and 14th gen and AMD Zen 4 are 100% soldered and the last really high performance socketed laptop generations were Intel 9th and 10th gen from Clevo, Dell/Alienware and MSI.
