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No worries about the impact of OC on my account, as I was just looking for ballpark numbers. Many thanks again.

Thank you again bro, very useful. Hopefully EVGA doesn't exit the PSU business before they offer a 12VHPWR cable, since I just ordered a SuperNova 1600 T2... + karma and virtual reps 🙂 Edit: I was talking specifically about reusing the 2x8pin PCIe->12VHPWR adapter, but still probably best to contact EVGA support and not assume their 8pin PCIe sockets are industry standard.

Wonder if EVGA will come up with an equivalent product, although presumably any cable, including the ones from BeQuiet or Corsair would work with EVGA PSUs. Well, it's not going to be as easy as vs Intel in the CPU space (and it's not actually even that easy there), since they don't have the process advantage. But of course, Nvidia can take away rational customer choice, but they can't take away our effective free market competition dreams 😉

Thanks a lot bro, very interesting. So looking at the single precision FLOPS, theoretically there should be about 10.5x improvement over a single 2060S, however, it's "only" 7.8x faster. Probably the limitation of the WDDM Windows driver model. Almost certainly the fast TCC mode is still locked on this $2k card ($2k is peanuts in terms of Nvidia pro GPU pricing, which is the point), I won't even bother asking someone to check this. Well, more indirect evidence it's time to move to Linux, as even Ubuntu is now 4% faster than Win11 on ADL, and Clear pulls 8% ahead on average (ex any CUDA performance improvements). https://www.phoronix.com/review/windows-linux-mid22adl/7 +8% and no more Capability Access Manager Service spinning up randomly taking up 25% CPU? I'll take that, installing this weekend. BTW SHA-1 Hash is only +3x vs 2060S - so Nvidia are still continuing with the anti-mining throttle in the driver, even though mining is dead and buried and someone might want to use their $2k card to compute hashes for other purposes. Must be mining boom nostalgia 😁 I mean AMD please step up, we need a plan B here and fast.

My fav comment: LOLIFY0000 • 21 hours ago Just focus on stocking the 4090 Nvidia you clowns.

Just to clarify, I was mostly concerned with the left side of the chase (the one facing the top of the GPU), but with the Corsair cable there is enough clearance. Phew. Anyway, thanks for sharing. Great system and build. Enjoy! @tps3443 Gotcha, so this is an extra step to enable Resizable BAR in some applications. Just surprised to see 3D Mark, and CP on the list - I guess in the latter case, it's probably just another bug har har

Before plunging into nvinspector, would it not suffice to check if support is already enabled in NVIDIA CP, and then optionally follow further instructions re BIOS/vBIOS as per the below? https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/geforce-rtx-30-series-resizable-bar-support/

Cool, looking forward to the pic(s). For me it'd be even more annoying, as I would need to lose a 200mm side fan I love so much lol BTW AFAIR you have the Supernova T2, so probably using the supplied 4-way adapter. As @johnksssmentioned earlier, a 3rd party PCIe 5 adapter would help, not that I could find any in stock...

Awesome bro, congrats and enjoy! Now, I can see your case is exactly as wide as mine. How much clearance (if any) is left between cables and the side panel/door (with the card in 😉 )?

The benefit of Intel Thread Director in Win 11 is likely to be less visible in straightforward synthetic benchmarks such as CB, which just load every core with a similar piece of pure computation. The optimal scheduling is trivial here. You need more complicated workloads to see the difference, even 3D Mark is potentially slightly more tricky to schedule for Windows 10 on Alder Lake.

Interesting. AFAIR they were also louder in the 800-2k RPM range vs the other Noctua fans due to a different design. Will be interesting to see what you'll find. Being a bit paranoid about noise, I did not even get one to test - possibly a mistake. Def feels like a semi-paper release. Zero availability in the UK as far as I could see. Being a de facto monopolist is just great, you can pull sh1t like that on your customers no problem - they won't just turn around and buy a competing product.

Anyone knows if it's possible to get a direct reading on Alder Lake memory controller/bus utilisation? Can't see anything in HWInfo 7.26-4800. Another monitoring tool perhaps?

That was a bit of a joke on the back of people claiming Alder Lake performs better on Windows 10. That's inconsistent with my experience and Intel recommendations. Perhaps it does in some benchmarks but not others and not necessarily in actual applications.

Hmm.. The 12900K CPU score looks consistently lower on Win 10, bro.... what gives? A buggy benchmark?

Sounds like a plan. This is getting a bit off topic, but have you used IPPC3000s before? They are supposed to be quite loud at higher speeds.

Cool. How does the air inflow work? Fans on top blowing down?

Yep, liking it too, but probably for a different reason - it takes just two slots (plus the design seems fine). On the other hand it looks like it requires an even wider case to accomodate the tubing though (plus need case space for another AIO). Probably time to start researching a new case either way... Also curious about the reliability and servicability. If there is a problem with a CPU AIO, you just swap in another one (unless it leaked...), with this you need to RMA the whole card I guess. Or maybe it doesn't matter vs air cooled: would probably need to RMA a failed fan anyway.

It would appear that all these cards, including the FE, are fairly cool and quiet... the magic of 5nm. Yes, there are are some minor differences, which clearly have a lot to do with fan curves, that's user-adjustable anyway. Of course, if you want to try hacks, shunt mods etc. then boombox (or WC) all the way regardless of other considerations. https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090-founders-edition/37.html Temperature & Noise Comparison Idle Gaming GPU Noise GPU Hotspot Memory Noise RPM ASUS RTX 4090 STRIX OC 40°C Fan Stop 62°C 70°C 62°C 32.6 dBA 1330 RPM ASUS RTX 4090 STRIX OC (Quiet BIOS) 42°C Fan Stop 65°C 73°C 68°C 29.8 dBA 1118 RPM Colorful RTX 4090 Vulcan OC 42°C Fan Stop 61°C 70°C 64°C 36.2 dBA 1732 RPM Colorful RTX 4090 Vulcan OC (Turbo BIOS) 42°C Fan Stop 62°C 71°C 64°C 36.7 dBA 1759 RPM Gigabyte RTX 4090 Gaming OC 44°C Fan Stop 60°C 67°C 62°C 37.4 dBA 1716 RPM Gigabyte RTX 4090 Gaming OC (Quiet BIOS) 41°C Fan Stop 64°C 72°C 66°C 32.6 dBA 1416 RPM MSI RTX 4090 Suprim X 46°C Fan Stop 70°C 77°C 76°C 28.6 dBA 1198 RPM MSI RTX 4090 Suprim X (Gaming BIOS) 46°C Fan Stop 64°C 70°C 68°C 32.6 dBA 1466 RPM MSI RTX 4090 Suprim Liquid X 37°C Fan Stop* 58°C 67°C 68°C 32.2 dBA 1197 RPM MSI RTX 4090 Suprim Liquid X (Quiet BIOS) 38°C Fan Stop* 60°C 69°C 72°C 29.0 dBA 1105 RPM NVIDIA RTX 4090 Founders Edition 37°C Fan Stop 66°C 74°C 72°C 35.1 dBA 1449 RPM Palit RTX 4090 GameRock OC 43°C Fan Stop 66°C 73°C 68°C 35.0 dBA 1539 RPM Palit RTX 4090 GameRock OC (Quiet BIOS) 43°C Fan Stop 66°C 73°C 70°C 31.8 dBA 1399 RPM Zotac RTX 4090 AMP Extreme 42°C Fan Stop 66°C 75°C 76°C 37.1 dBA 1434 RPM Zotac RTX 4090 AMP Extreme (Quiet BIOS) 45°C Fan Stop 72°C 81°C 82°C 31.8 dBA 1152 RPM

Are you sure they didn't carry any Strix or Aorus cards? I hear they are now in Portable Electronics section har har

Sorry, I cannot add any more reactions today, but thanks a lot in advance.

Wow, congrats. One of the nicer looking cards too, IMHO. Do you mind running the AIDA GPGPU Benchmark?

Sure, alas this is very subjective. Quite a few reviewers have noted that some (most?) of the AIB cards look like they are targeting 12 year olds. I would personally agree: the FE design looks far more refined and elegant compared to some of the grotesque air-cooled space heaters AIBs churned out. One exception would be the WC-ed models which tend to be slick and take just 2 slots. Wish I had space for another AIO radiator in my case. The trouble is that liquid cooling is not hugely needed for those cards, especially considering the FEs blower/rear-exhaust design.

Gosh this is getting sad. Nothing to brag about, is there? I mean it's clear NVIDIA wants to take over the physical card market too, at which point Mr J will be free to jack up the prices by the few hundred bucks AIBs have so far been able to pocket.

Give it a couple of weeks. There will always be people with a few K to throw about, but probably not that many these days. Of course, Nvidia is ultimately to blame by keeping the inventories artificially tight.

Thanks for this bro, confirmed the predictable. Wasn't far off: SuprimX is 2% faster than FE.... Not sure how AIBs plan on justifying charging extra for that.