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Nvidia defend their latest scam with crap talk. There's also the question of why the RTX 4080 12GB isn't just called the RTX 4070. Talking with Nvidia during a briefing, this exact question came up: What was the thought process behind calling the 12GB chip a 4080 instead of a 4070, especially since it's a different chip? Nvidia's Justin Walker, Senior Director of Product Management, said, "The 4080 12GB is a really high performance GPU. It delivers performance considerably faster than a 3080 12GB... it's faster than a 3090 Ti, and we really think it's deserving of an 80-class product." Frankly, that's a crap answer. Of course it's faster! It's a new chip and a new architecture; it's supposed to be faster. Remember when the GTX 1070 came out and it was faster than a 980 Ti? I guess that wasn't "deserving" of an 80-class product name. Neither was the RTX 2070 when it matched the 1080 Ti, or the 3070 when it matched the 2080 Ti. Why Nvidia's RTX 4080, 4090 Cost so Damn Much tomshardware.com https://www.tomshardware.com/news/why-nvidias-4080-4090-cost-so-damn-much Nvidia hasn't released die shots or renderings of AD103 and AD104 just yet, but we do have the full specs. They're quite a bit smaller, and much of that comes from reducing core counts, memory interfaces, and L2 cache size. The 4080 models will naturally be higher volume products than the 4090, though it's worth pointing out that the 4090 potentially has 70% more compute, 50% more memory bandwidth and capacity, and uses 41% more power, all while "only" costing 33% more. In other words, RTX 4080 16GB pricing is proportionately worse than the RTX 4090. Yep, not only is the "castrated 4080@12GB of bad value due you pay premium for xx70 performance, but the more expensive real 4080 give a bad value as well. In short the the whole xx80 line-up is messed up. Jensen need to clean up, but I doub't he will do that. What a Ugly box. I wonder how big the 5000 series xx90 will be. AORUS GeForce RTX 4090 MASTER is the biggest RTX 4090 so far, by far Anthony Garreffa | Sep 22, 2022 8:58 PM CDT NVIDIA unleashed its new GeForce RTX 4090 but now AIB partners are announcing their new custom RTX 4090 designs... and man... GIGABYTE's new custom AORUS GeForce RTX 4090 MASTER makes the word behemoth feel small. Read more: https://www.tweaktown.com/news/video_cards/index.html

Because of bad QC - quality. They was forced to run it EOL to save face and reputation. I expect we will get a re-branded product with different color (fancy paste colors is modern today - Grey is out) and a small change in W/mk specs to lure the buyers. Arctic appears to be retiring the MX-5 line of thermal compounds due to consistency issues. At Arctic, the product is now labeled "End of Life." Arctic halts troublesome MX-5 thermal paste; MX-6 successor spotted at almost three times the price By Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 09/22/2022 07:22 PM Arctic's MX-5 thermal paste is no longer available and has been replaced by the MX-6. Although the latest version is not yet accessible on the manufacturer's website, it is now available on Amazon. The 4 grams version costs 28.75 euros including shipping. Read more

Yep, as long they show only white🙂 Microsoft just can't stop screw up their latest and greatest. Windows 11 22H2 apparently causing problems on Nvidia graphics cards https://notebooktalk.net/topic/168-all-about-windows-11-news-and-announcements/?do=findComment&comment=14046

LOOOL. Microsoft just can't stop screw up their latest and greatest. Windows 11 22H2 apparently causing problems on Nvidia graphics cards neowin.com · Today After successfully updating to the latest Windows 11 22H2 feature update, many users running Nvidia graphics cards are facing issues, like stutters, and unstable framerates. Nvidia is investigating.... Yeah, and as you can see.... Microsoft forgot fix problems who has been reported from guinea pigs months ago. Why use GP if nothing will be done? Is adding new useless features more important than a release a working OS?

Drag it all out... Buttons everywher. Looking forward to see you with the Neptune in your hands and new shiny white crocs on the feet's. Best of both worlds, LOOL Me......😁

World record for single card. https://hwbot.org/submission/5006556_biso_biso_3dmark___time_spy_extreme_geforce_rtx_3090_ti_14977_marks Btw. Dell continue with their +20 years chassis construction (wrapped with glossy pastic) for their high end gaming desktops (Alienware). What a tragedy. And Tomshardware give it 4 out of 5 stars. Double tragedy! https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/alienware-aurora-r13

https://www.tweaktown.com/articles/10076/msi-geforce-rtx-3090-ti-suprim-overclocking-oc/index.html https://www.tweaktown.com/articles/10077/asus-rog-strix-lc-geforce-rtx-3090-ti-overclocking-oc/index.html Edit. I think with Evga out of question we need to look after what of the AIB partners that will offer the overall better bin for their best cards.

We have to see the results first. ButTweaktown wasn't happy with Asus 3090Ti AIO card. An AIO cooled card fail if it perform equal as a air cooled card. We'll see 🙂 ASUS loses big points with the lack of performance gains over an air-cooled RTX 3090 Ti, more noise than an air-cooled RTX 3090 Ti, and has a huge bulky AIO cooler. I wouldn't recommend the ASUS ROG Strix LC GeForce RTX 3090 Ti over an air-cooled GPU, simply because it offers no performance leap over the air-cooled RTX 3090 Ti cards. The GPU temps being so low are awesome, but not awesome enough to have a huge AIO cooler installed in my PC... or that it's louder than my MSI RTX 3090 Ti SUPRIM X. Sorry, ASUS. Read more: https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/10075/asus-rog-strix-lc-geforce-rtx-3090-ti-oc-edition/index.html And all white in my fully Black box screems... NOOOOOO 🙂

https://hothardware.com/news/rtx-4080-12gb-has-more-than-memory-cut-from-16gb-model#:~:text=The reaction of,the naming scheme. The reaction of the hardware enthusiast community to the naming of the two RTX 4080 cards, as well as the overall high pricing of the Ada Lovelace GPU family, has been vitriolic in spots. The Reddit thread for the Project Beyond event on the /r/NVIDIA subreddit has over 4000 comments, and a great many of them are expressing either disappointment at the pricing or frustration with the naming scheme. GALAX Reveals NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 12GB Has More Than Memory Cut From 16GB Model hothardware.com

Isn't the Nepune coming with a castrated cooler block? If so, why buy it over a vanilla air cooled card and add own water block? I remember Tweaktown was more happy with the Suprime 3090 Ti than the water cooled Strix card (binning). NVIDIA CEO Comments On EVGA's Breakup And What It Means For The GPU Market NVIDIA CEO Jensen Huang answered some questions from investors and reporters in the wake of his GTC keynote. One of the seismic industry events just ahead of all the Ada Lovelace news was the split with long-standing partner EVGA. Naturally, there were reporters at the Q&A that came fishing for Huang’s first official..... “The market has a lot of great players. And it'll be served well after EVGA,” said Jensen Huang, in answer to PC Gamer’s Jacob Ridley, during the Q&A session. Huang added some warmth to that rather cold sounding statement, mentioning that Andrew Han and EVGA were great partners, and it was sad to see them leave the market. Revealingly, Huang admitted he had known about the EVGA’s boss’s wishes to wind down the GPU business “for a couple of years.” Surely, NVIDIA rather blatantly creaming the top off the market with Founder Edition cards during recent generations was another one of the sparks behind the burned-out relationship.

Thank you bro john for the test resullts 🙂 The problem with AMDs coming cards is their love for lower power consumption, and paired with 5nm process. I just can't see they can compete for the performance King this gen. And Nvidia want premium because I'm sure they know AMD can't compete regarding max performance. But they have to think two times if they think all people out there are stupid and will spend 1000$ for a 4080 4070 graphics card. We ain't in mining times anymore. And the web will be flooded with used 3000 series graphics cards. I'm sure more people/reviewers/youtubers will talk about Nvidia's new SCAM! And there is still a few smart people aka buyers out there that won't be tricked and lured by greed.

Back to flow rate and water pumps bro @Mr. Fox I tried reach out to Eddy Alphacool on Techpowerup forum as you can see in the link and pict. Wonder if I get an answer back. Or if he will disappear and never respond/reply back. Can you check how the tests was done and then compare the results and come with a final answer. The Thermaltake Pacific TF1 flow/thermal sensor was tested by Igorslab and he wasn't very pleased with the reliabilty on this version. But it can't be so bad that the results would be so very differnt as in the two tests. Something is very fishy. Either from Alphacool or the flow sensor results. Swiftech MCP-655 Laing/Xylem D5 pump results.... Alphacool VPP755 D5 pump results... Pump D5 vs VPP755 techpowerup forum https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/pump-d5-vs-vpp755.298154/post-4838796

From before AMD prioritized Ryzen chips over graphics due more profits from same silicon. So AMDs coming Radeon graphics cards has to be priced on a certain level to make it profitable. And newer AM5 motherboards will be damn expensive as well. And even worse in Europe due their massive love for taxes. At least DDR5 will stabilize at slightly lower prices than before. But a brand new AM5 platform will be expensive. This on top of the disgusting prices from Nvidia’s new gen graphics. It will be very expensive being an gamer kid. https://videocardz.com/newz/first-preorders-for-asus-x670-motherboards-now-available-in-europe-for-e510-to-e1475

This means a 16GB GeForce RTX 4080 AIB card will have an MSRP near or +1300$. Almost mining prices for a simple xx80 card. Thats perverse. I expect nvidia with this will try to grab more market shares for their own brand as Founders Edition cards. No in Hell the AIB partners is able to sell loads of new overpriced cards if the gamer kids can just grab it cheaper from Nvidia. Nvidia want to get rid of their partners and sell most cards themself.

Look at this... The cheaper RTX 4080 ($899) is a bit more modest, with 12GB of GDDR6X memory and a 2.31GHz base clock speed. Still, it promises more than twice the speed of its predecessor, and an upgraded 16GB RTX 4080 ($1,199) gives customers the best of both worlds. What do they compare the new scam with? 3070 Ti or 3080@12GB cards ? Will be fun to see if the new castrated 4080 will perform over the double vs 3080 performance. What's your guess on this? What Nvidia have done with the 4080 branding name is disgusting. Nothing different than what they did for the laptop-jockey's with Max-Q mobile graphics. RTX 40-series is much more expensive Now for some bad news. Worries about even-higher price points for the RTX 40-series proved accurate. The RTX 4090 starts at $1,599, a $99 premium over the RTX 3090. The 16GB GeForce RTX 4080 costs $1,199, the same price as the RTX 3080 Ti and an astonishing $400 more than the $700 RTX 3080. Finally, the mysterious 12GB RTX 4080 starts at $899, a $200 increase over its predecessor. 4080@16GB now with Ti prices is awful. And a real 4080 card at $1200 is disgusting. And the reason they added $100 for the 4090 was to make space for coming 4080 Ti (Super) cards). Hope AMD can do something with this.

Yep, And the focus is still on the Store and ads. This new OS refresh brings almost nothing. Microsoft launches Ads program in Microsoft Store as it passes 900 million users milestone Microsoft has launched the Microsoft Store Ads pilot program to give developers another way to deliver and promote their apps and games to customers with Windows 10 and 11 at the right time.

Look from 10:00 and you may see why bling bling is a bad thing for you 🙂 Do yoo like bling bling bro Fox in same way as me? DazMode have been in the cooling business a long time. And he also mean this modern fancy awful tech shouldn't be placed everywhere in your pc. I think he even hate it in same way as me, HaHa Yep,, he hate bling bling. From 19:40 No ligthts, period, LOOL

What if we come to the point that Microsoft will remove all reg-keys in the OS as well force the MB manufacturers to follow their strict rules in same way as Intel forced the MB manufacturers to lock out BCLK overclock for older non K processors. Everything is possible if we talk about Redmond idiots. And this below looks nice... From the comment section. A new task is needed for each new update, LOOL Yep, Newer has to be better, HaHa

You just have to love Microsoft and their newest OS... "It's worth noting that VBS is automatically disabled in Windows 10, which is why 11 is the only effected OS." Unfortunately, we do not know which specific Windows update initially caused all this mayhem. But when installed, the update automatically enables Microsoft's Virtualization-based Security (VBS) on Windows 11 systems. Microsoft calls this feature "Memory Integrity" in Windows 10 and 11's security app. Windows 11 Update Kills Undervolting and Overvolting on MSI Boards

Thank you 🙂 They have it here home. But at whopping... Then add shipping on top. So only 95$ here home. Yep, near 100$. Here's one more disgusting price... Only 18$ for a single fan power cable. And God forbid if you only order this one. You have to pay +7$ for shipping on top 🙂 Yep, only 25$ for a cable if you are in need for one. Hail Norway! We can talk about more disgusting while we are at it... Windows 11 Update Kills Undervolting and Overvolting on MSI Boards https://notebooktalk.net/topic/168-all-about-windows-11-news-and-announcements/?do=findComment&comment=13826

Bro Fox. What type/brand flow and temp sensor meter do you have for your pc's? Thanks. Igorslab have tested a couple of them and wasn't happy with the results (the results was all over the place - none of them was especially accurate). But he liked the newer Aqua Computer high flow NEXT.

September 13, 2022—KB5017308 (OS Build 19044.2006) 2021 LTSC Manual download: 19044.2006 — KB5017308 September 13, 2022-KB5017022 Cumulative Update for .NET Framework 3.5 and 4.8 for Windows 10, version 20H2, Windows 10 Version 21H1, and Windows 10 Version 21H2 NDP35-48 https://catalog.s.download.windowsupdate.com/d/msdownload/update/software/secu/2022/08/windows10.0-kb5017022-x64-ndp48_ad405b6a81668b45dc4421e154a87ac9023517b5.msu September 13, 2022-KB5017025 Cumulative Update for .NET Framework 3.5 and 4.8.1 for Windows 10, version 20H2, Windows 10 Version 21H1, and Windows 10 Version 21H2 NDP35-481 https://catalog.s.download.windowsupdate.com/d/msdownload/update/software/secu/2022/08/windows10.0-kb5017025-x64-ndp481_1a9b739f02ed24beabaaf8fada05a59694efa4e4.msu @raptorddd You need to find out if others have same/similar problems on the web. I haven't seen bugs like this mentioned on the net. And major bugs will be posted normally within 1 week on the different tech sites.

September 13, 2022—KB5017315 (OS Build 17763.3406) 2019 LTSC Prerequisite: You "must" install the August 10, 2021 SSU (KB5005112) before installing the LCU. Manual download: CU (Cumulative Update) 17763.3406 — KB5017315 September 13, 2022-KB5017528 Cumulative Update for .NET Framework 3.5, 4.7.2 and 4.8 for Windows 10, version 1809 and Windows Server, version 2019 NDP35-472 https://catalog.s.download.windowsupdate.com/c/msdownload/update/software/updt/2022/07/windows10.0-kb5016713-x64_06795712a9bf5515c671e4f56f41e17b5a77dae5.msu NDP35-48 https://catalog.s.download.windowsupdate.com/c/msdownload/update/software/updt/2022/07/windows10.0-kb5016593-x64-ndp48_f15bf28d962e2f33576842131f6b6ce38a455d78.msu

For the first time I have put the build as it is meant t o be on thew web ...Kill me.... But I still want black bro. Probbly not what bro @Talon. But BLACK sorry I havent the data now.-...... But 1/4th lower flow rate sucks. And high pressure (4.0 vs 3.9 real D5 pump) is worthless vs 4 times higher flow. High flow beat high presssure any day.

What next? Will we now all be flooded with graphics cards similar as for the laptop Jockey*s ? Best advice... As usual... Wait for proper reviews. And one review ain't enough. Do your Due dilligence. Awesome is soon DEAD!!! Being in desktop land ain’t any different than living in Jokebook- land. What with unlocked vBios? Maybe HOF will continue offer it... Only for a very few fab benchers/or some chosen ones and not for the ordinary graphics cards buyers. The usual from HOF. Just lovely. And this great news will cost Nvidia a lot (same for AMD). A Flooded market with loads used cards (miners bought 35% of all cards from Nvidia) and people have less to spend for coming new tech. Hope Jensen will love it... Greed will always lose. Or will it win? GPU Mining No Longer Profitable After Ethereum Merge Nvidia now....