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Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
High core counts processors and incresed IPC for baby cores. Remember AMD Ryzen mainstream will most likely be stuck on with 16 cores. Or they are forced to do as Intel to keep being competitive on price. Bigger cores will always be more expensive. -
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The future is less of P-cores. Will AMD follow Intel and offer less performance cores and offer 75% of the cores as baby cores as well? Don't games need more than 6 real cores in the future or/will small E-cores be better for gaming? The transition to trash cores continue... And why go down to 6 P-cores then add 2 more for the refresh on same socket? A nice way to milk/offer an performance upgrade path? Remove cores, then add them back to offer something new. Almost as Dell did with their gaming laptops @Ashtrix+++ Based on the leaked slides, it looks like Intel's 14th Gen Meteor Lake-S Desktop CPUs will take a step back and reduce the number of P-Cores while retaining the number of E-Cores. The lineup listed in the charts includes five different SKU configurations with the top variants featuring up to 22 cores in a combination of 6 P-Cores and 16 E-Cores. The P-Cores on the Meteor Lake CPUs are based on the brand-new Redwood Cove architecture while the E-Cores will utilize the Crestmont design. Intel Meteor Lake-S CPUs To Feature 6 Performance Cores, Arrow Lake-S With 8 P-Cores On LGA 1851 Socket And more about Nvidia's disaster. Jon Gerow, aka Jonny Guru (Director of Research Development @ Corsair), has posted a write-up about the 12VHPWR connector. SO, YOU’RE GOOD WITH THE 12VHPWR CONNECTOR? Unfortunately, as of this writing (10/29/2022) Nvidia’s included adapter uses solder, some terminal I’ve never seen before (it has two splits instead of one) and I don’t know what else. Which turns an otherwise excellently designed connector into a disaster. IS THAT IT? Probably not. Let’s consider this a living document as we find out more and more about the new 12VHPWR connector and its potential issues. -
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Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Yep, but I think nvidia will be plagued with this a long time if not all the buyers get a notice from where they bought the cards/notice in their bloatware package (GeForce Experience) to warn people about the danger using their stupid engineered adaper. Will be fun see what nvidia will say about this topci in coming press releases. Will they try talk it down (fire fighting to reduce the damage on own reputation) and say only a few adapters are affected by the flaws? We'll see 🙂 Buildzoid isn't fully sure the problem Igorslab have found is the only one. But weird this badly designed adapter slipped through Nvidia's quality control/validation. Maybe they test own products in the same way as Microsoft do for their CU patches? Only a few tested, then rush it out to meet deadline. Only 4 today🙂 October 29 Link Here Gigabyte 4090 Gaming OC 4x 8 pins October 29 Link Here Asus TUF 4090 4x 8 pins October 29 Link Here MSI Gaming X Trio 4090 3x 8 pins October 29 Link Here Gigabyte 4090 Gaming OC 4x 8 pins Thanks bro @electrosoft🙂 -
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HeHe. What is a day without new smoke and fire? New one out. But where is Nvidia? Planning, an escape route without looking stupid? Just start the recall!! The longer they wait, the worse it will be. Just don't let the stupid engineers that said the adapter was good enough to be shipped with 4090, examine the burnt cards/adapters😁 40 minutes ago Another 16pin Adapter Melting (around 8hrs total use) -
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Nvidia's reputation is at stake. And this only a few weeks before AMD launch their new graphics cards. AMD could'nt get a better before Christmas gift than what Nvidia gave them this time. If you have a melted 4090 connector in the US you can report it to the Consumer Product Safety Commission here. saferproducts.gov/ Fellow Canadian RTX 4090 owners, remember if you experience any melting issues with your adapter/connector, please report it to Health Canada health.canada.ca/en/hea... And this is just amusing... Always be prepared if you game on newest Nvidia graphics. Always have your fire extinguishers right beside the "ticking bomb". What can goes wrong here?😁 Btw... Who will have to pay for filling up the fire extinguishers after the fire due unsafe Nvidia products? Nvidia or you? Hehe And some others like to live on the utter edge... Cardboard packaging is as you know flammable😁 -
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Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Two new in a rove. The smoke and fire show continue with nvidia's new modern power adapter. New has to be better. Always. Also Microsoft think so. Nvidia wanted to cut costs with this new design. 1600$ for the graphics cards isn't enough to make big enough profits. Hence they was forced to cut costs. MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 adapter burned A Friend Messaged Me to check on my 4090's connector Btw. What you think about the airflow direction on the fans below the fried 4090? Why use the bottom fans as exhaust fans? So he could smell the smoke faster? -
Remove older 5000 seriec Ryzen chips from that list and there you have the sales numbers for AM5 platform. Edit. Why not just reduce the price for the Cpu and MB and let the people determine themself what memory kit they want to buy? You Will Get A Free 32 GB DDR5-5600 Kit & $50 US Off AM5 Motherboards If Your Purchase An AMD Ryzen 7000 CPU At Microcenter https://wccftech.com/get-a-free-32-gb-ddr5-5600-kit-50-usd-off-am5-motherboards-purchase-amd-ryzen-7000-cpu-microcenter/
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Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Why?😃 Because.... 😁 😁 😁 -
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Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 OC Shootout: ASUS, COLORFUL, FE, MSI, GAINWARD tweaktown.com The ultimate GeForce RTX 4090 overclocking showdown: ASUS vs COLORFUL vs GAINWARD vs MSI vs Founders Edition... which overclocks the best? Best Overclocker You'd probably think it was the ASUS ROG Strix GeForce RTX 4090 OC Edition that is the best overclocker, but you'd be wrong... the ROG Strix RTX 4090 was topping out at just 2940MHz but your results may vary. The best overclocker that I've got here with my pile of custom GeForce RTX 4090 graphics cards is NVIDIA's own GeForce RTX 4090 Founders Edition which hit 3080MHz (but crashed) but was perfectly stable at 3060MHz. Fun seeing Nvidia eat up their partners🙂 A good beginning before we see next chapter "eat their own" (5x90 FE). Have control on chips and memory chips bin quality/supply chain, pay off. Give it one of the best price tag help as well. Nvidia vs AIB partners = 1-0 -
Nvidia confirms Windows 11 Task Manager reporting is broken with latest 526.47 driver neowin · 5 hours ago 6 Nvidia has acknowledged the false reading issue that is currently affecting its graphics cards. The company has provided a temporary workaround for the problem with its latest 526.47 display driver.......
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Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Nvidia instructs AIB partners to send RTX 4090 cards affected by power connector issues directly to headquarters notebookcheck.net | Today The fun part.... Nvidia warn about use of 3rd party adapters 🙂 Edit. A new one today. And as usual... And CableMod reps strike while the iron is hot 🙂 Edit. And here is an new. But from MSI. The nightmare for NVIDIA has just began. When will we see the first house burned down? We've got out first MSI 4090 that melted (Suprim X) -
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Every single KF chip will be used as KF (only binning will be for clock speed). If Intel was really smart they would release an 13900KFS 🙂 -
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He meant his own chips, so I don't count in Intels 11th gen failure (backported to Intel's 14 nm+++++++ process node)🙂 -
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11th gen Mobile is on 10nm. 12th and 13th gen is 10nm+++++++ Edit. And older mobile on 10nm have a lot less cores, so. -
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Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
You need to compare amount cores, clock speed and what power budget the Cpu have. You can't compare Intel chips tuned to be in Jokebooks. A sidenote.... 12th and 13th gen have same IPC, so... All boils down to castrating the chips so it can be able to be used in thin and flimsy From what I remember he have 12800H aka 10nm chips (12th gen). -
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Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
The horror has a face – NVIDIA’s hot 12VHPWR adapter for the GeForce RTX 4090 with a built-in breaking point Summary and conclusion The overall build quality of the included adapter for the GeForce RTX 4090, which is distributed by NVIDIA itself, is extremely poor and the internal construction should never have been approved like this. NVIDIA has to take its own supplier to task here, and replacing the adapters in circulation would actually be the least they could do. I will therefore summarize once again what has struck those involved (myself included) so far: The problem is not the 12VHPWR connection as such, nor the repeated plugging or unplugging. Standard compliant power supply cables from brand manufacturers are NOT affected by this so far. The current trigger is NVIDIA’s own adapter to 4x 8-pin in the accessories, whose inferior quality can lead to failures and has already caused damage in single cases. Splitting each of the four 14AWG leads onto each of the 6 pins in the 12VHPWR connector of the adapter by soldering them onto bridges that are much too thin is dangerous because the ends of the leads can break off at the solder joint (e.g., when kinked or bent several times). Bending or kinking the wires directly at the connector of the adapter puts too much pressure on the solder joints and bridges, so that they can break off. The inner bridge between the pins is too thin (resulting cross section) to compensate the current flow on two or three instead of four connected 12V lines. NVIDIA has already been informed in advance and the data and pictures were also provided by be quiet! directly to the R&D department. Some heads has to roll at nvidia's engineering team. Because this adapter is a fire hazard and should have never seen the light. What with the 12VHPWR connector on the GPU PCB? Hot running connector on the adapters side won't make it more reliable in the length. Plastic will wear out faster from the added heat (even if you replace it in time - before the smoke, melting and fire). -
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Microsoft fixes Windows vulnerable driver blocklist sync issue Disabling the driver blocklist Microsoft also says that starting with the Windows 11 2022 update (version 22H2), the blocklist is enabled by default on all devices. "Blocking drivers can cause devices or software to malfunction. In rare cases, it leads to a stop error," Microsoft warned on Tuesday. "There is no guarantee that the blocklist will block every driver that has weaknesses." https://notebooktalk.net/topic/265-all-about-windows-10-ltsc-included-news-and-announcements/?do=findComment&comment=17238&_rid=79 -
O&O ShutUp10++ 1.9.1434 Released: Oct 25, 2022 1.9.1434 – released October 25, 2022 FIX: Fixed Microsoft Edge settings permissions detection on some systems Available in German, English, French, Italian, Spanish, Russian and Chinese (simplified) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- New has to be better......... Microsoft fixes Windows vulnerable driver blocklist sync issue bleepingcomputer.com Disabling the driver blocklist Microsoft also says that starting with the Windows 11 2022 update (version 22H2), the blocklist is enabled by default on all devices. "Blocking drivers can cause devices or software to malfunction. In rare cases, it leads to a stop error," Microsoft warned on Tuesday. "There is no guarantee that the blocklist will block every driver that has weaknesses." For Windows 10 and Windows 11 21H2, you can disable the driver blocklist by turning off 'Memory Integrity' in the 'Core Isolation' settings, or if using Windows Defender Application Control (WDAC), disabling it in your configuration. However, as the driver blocklist is enabled by default in Windows 11 22H2, even when Memory Integrity is disabled, it's unclear how to disable the blocklist in the latest version of the operating system.
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O&O ShutUp10++ 1.9.1434 Released: Oct 25, 2022 1.9.1434 – released October 25, 2022 FIX: Fixed Microsoft Edge settings permissions detection on some systems Available in German, English, French, Italian, Spanish, Russian and Chinese (simplified) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- New has to be better......... Always. Microsoft fixes Windows vulnerable driver blocklist sync issue bleepingcomputer.com Disabling the driver blocklist Microsoft also says that starting with the Windows 11 2022 update (version 22H2), the blocklist is enabled by default on all devices. "Blocking drivers can cause devices or software to malfunction. In rare cases, it leads to a stop error," Microsoft warned on Tuesday. "There is no guarantee that the blocklist will block every driver that has weaknesses." For Windows 10 and Windows 11 21H2, you can disable the driver blocklist by turning off 'Memory Integrity' in the 'Core Isolation' settings, or if using Windows Defender Application Control (WDAC), disabling it in your configuration. However, as the driver blocklist is enabled by default in Windows 11 22H2, even when Memory Integrity is disabled, it's unclear how to disable the blocklist in the latest version of the operating system.
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Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
A new one. Nvidia is in deaper and deaper water. Can Jensen swim? My best guess... Class action or recall of cards/in best case sending out new adapters. Nvidia's investigation team can't keep up with this pace. One per day is +60 before Christmas Eve. And there isn't many 4090 cards out there. I think my Asus 4090 TUF OC adapter is melting too https://ibb.co/94Q97dX https://ibb.co/0q0RWPq https://ibb.co/YXK1d2h https://ibb.co/XYBHG5L Had to disconnect my GPU to make space for the 13900k installation and I noticed that one of the pins looks melted. What should I do? -
AMD Releases AM5 AGESA 1.0.0.3, Reintroduces C-State Boost Limiter with >4 Cores Loaded Techpowerup.com | Today, 16:11 AMD released the latest version of the AGESA microcode for Socket AM5 platform. The new version 1.0.0.3 most notably reintroduces a Precision Boost C-state limiter that [accidentally?] got removed with version 1.0.0.2. This limiter prevents the CPU cores from boosting above 5.50 GHz when more than 4 cores are active (i.e. experiencing heavy workload). SkatterBencher demonstrated how this affects performance on Ryzen 7000-series desktop processors. NopBench, a utility developed by ElmorLabs, lets you figure out the maximum boost frequency obtainable as workload scales across available CPU cores (i.e. starting from 1-thread, to n-thread). NopBench invokes the NOP instruction, and measures the number of NOP instructions can be processed per second. To make the NOP throughput comparable among processors of different microarchitectures, an architecture-specific factor is used, which for "Raphael" is 2.5x. By comparing the NOP throughput of a Ryzen 9 7950X processor tested with AGESA 1.0.0.2 to 1.0.0.3 (ASUS ROG Crosshair X670E Extreme BIOS versions 0611 vs. 0705); SkatterBencher was able to confirm that that the boost limiter is back in place, and limits Precision Boost frequency to 5.50 GHz when the NopBench load exceeds 4 cores. From the comment section....
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Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in General Software
Bad news bro @Mr. Fox @Ashtrix+++ Google Chrome Users Running Windows 7 Or 8.1 Will Soon Need To Find A Fresher OS Chrome is the most popular browser on the planet and we reckon there's a fair number of people surfing the web with it inside Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1. Well, bad news for them—barring a last-minute reprieve, Google plans to sunset its Chrome browser on Windows 7 and Windows 8/8.1 with its version 110 release that's due out in a few months. If you're affected by this, then heads up that Google is tentatively planning to roll out its version 110 release of Chrome on February 7, 2023. That will be the last official update to Chrome that you'll see on your platform. To continue receiving future releases with new features and security patches, you'll need to update your platform to Windows 10 or Windows 11. "Older versions of Chrome will continue to work, but there will be no further updates released for users on these operating systems. If you are currently on Windows 7 or Windows 8.1, we encourage you to move to a supported Windows version before that date to ensure you continue to receive the latest security updates and Chrome features," Google explains in a recently posted support document.- 163 replies
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*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
I wonder if this size is too big for the package....🙂 Maybe 3080@20GB can stop the 4090 fire? Nvidia could save up 4090 dies and make 4090 Ti with improved power connectors/adapters and release it sooner than later. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Newegg: Refund Issued for RTX 4090 Box Filled With Metal Weights tomshardware.com https://www.tomshardware.com/news/newegg-responds-to-metal-in-rtx-4090-box A Newegg representative told Tom's Hardware via email that it refunded a customer that claimed to have received blocks of metal instead of an Nvidia Geforce RTX 4090. The company also claims that banning customer accounts is a "normal" part of a fraud investigation process. -
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The way Nvidia prefer you install your brand new 4090 graphics cards. Big gain once again for Nvidia (less prone for fire and reduced chance for increased RMA costs), HaHa While Nvidia investigate the fire and smoke... Very impotant to offer graphics cards that don't catch fire, and to keep up profits and at same time reduce inventory of older chips. ZOTAC launches GeForce RTX 3070 Ti with GA102-150 GPU https://videocardz.com/newz/zotac-launches-geforce-rtx-3070-ti-with-ga102-150-gpu A card called Zotac GeForce RTX 3070Ti-8G6X Apocalypse GOC is a new model based on existing GA104 design. Both cards have an identical triple-fan cooler and, from what we can see from official pictures, a similar board design as well. This upgraded model features NVIDIA’s largest GA102-150 GPU, but only with 6144 CUDA cores. This means that as many as 4608 cores were disabled on this Ampere processor. @Rage Set Nice see you back. Hope all is well 🙂 Nice improvements bro Fox. -
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This is topic brother. They sniff up news about Nvidia and fire everywhere. What next? And AMD use it for all it's worth. Scott Herkelman confirm that AMD do as Intel and scrapped this new Nvidia 12/16 pin "fire cracker connector". It’s a surprisingly concrete and technical statement about an upcoming GPU design, still more than a week out from its announcement on November 3rd. And to play devil’s advocate, it’s unlikely that Nvidia’s RTX 4090 issues played a part in AMD’s decision—it’s simply too late in the design process for AMD to switch course.