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How can you controll all fans, pump and the vrm fan independently with a single cable and connector out from the pump to the MB fan header? Have Arctic changed the cable management/added more connectors? https://www.kitguru.net/components/cooling/luke-hill/arctic-liquid-freezer-ii-360-a-rgb-review/6/#:~:text=A single 4-pin cable controls the radiator fans%2C pump%2C and VRM fan – all of which operate under PWM conditions. That means that each of those components was reduced in terms of its operating speed when we targeted the 40dBA noise output. When I had the Arctic Liquid Freezer II (rev 4 or 5). The AIO cooler from Arctic are up in rev 7 now🙃 I swapped out the fans with others and let the MB handle the speed for the fans via their own cables. The pump ran at full speed 24/7 connected to the MB fan header. I prefer to split it up my way. I prefer have greater control than the unisex way.

None still know the quality of the fans. Need to be tested. The problem with the Arctic Freezer II ARGB is if you turn down the fan speed you also turn down the pump speed. This is one of the worst thing you can do for the pumps longeivity(clogged pump). I prefer full speed for the pump.

A downturn if you chose the newer 280mm AIO. The previous model cooled about equal good as the bigger 360mm AIO's. I wonder why the fan specs is not comprehensive on all models. The old 120mm fans and new have almost same specs, but not for the bigger 140mm fans (near 28% less cooling performance for the new and shiny). For me, this looks more as design/features over functionality. Fans can be tuned down if the noise is too much. But you can't do the opposite (increase performance for better cooling). This rub me the wrong way. And I don't like that EVGA continue with the weak anc cheap plastic backplate for socket 1700. How much do they save vs a proper metal backplate? 1$ ?

Their specs for the old one (360mm) New one... The EVGA fans is quite good. I like them. And I expect the new one is equal good (just turn of the lights).

The fans specs is acually good. A lot better than for the precious gen (noise level). The negative is the more fancy colors if you don't know how to turn it of, LOOL I hope EVGA offer better software than what the majority offer.

Depends where you are/live in the world. This is from here home. The old model.

HaHa. Even worse then 🙃 Yep you will get better deals on the new as well. As an example. 300 MSRP minus 50% = 200$. Still not cheap and not near their older models in price with an price deal. This is going the wrong way, bro John. Edit. I also got a very good deal on the older models a couple of years ago. Well under half price in the used market (brand new - not used).

Compared to old AIOs (360mm) MSRP. What people normally have to pay.

Nice. +88% in price increase due new (more) bling bling. This means near or above 400$ usd here home. I wonder what they will add in premium for their next gen PSUs and rest of their tech gears.

Intel will lanch loads of new processors. From cheap to the more expensive SKUs. More options for people that don't want spend a lot money in such bad times. How many options did AMD offer with Zen4? And how many cheaper SKUs did they push out? This is one of many of the AMD self introduced problems.

Reviews that give it 3 stars also don't help boost the sales. AMD and it's MB partners has to take a lot blame for the low sales (too high prices). A 30% drop in price from today's hideous prices would help dramatically on the sales. AMD Ryzen 9 7900X Review: Zen 4 Has a Pricing Problem tomshardware.com | Today

AMD allegedly planning to lower Ryzen 7000 CPU production plan After the recent failure of the entry-level B650 series mainboards to start at the US$125 price promised by AMD, it looks like the tech giant is now planning to lower the production figures of the Ryzen 7000 Zen 4 CPUs. The two main reasons for this are probably the global PC market decline and the poor reception of the AM5 platform.

See it this way. Corsair probably used cheapo thin flimsy heatsink. Because the M.2 ssd in the test is one of their cheaper model. Here is results from the model they offer with the water cooling kit you are looking for. The drive barely hit 50C in stress test. And newer PCIe M.2 ssds run colder than the older models. From the review... We took note of the drive’s temperature during some of our benchmarking runs. The well-designed heatsink on the MP600 Pro XT performs well as even when the drive was being pushed very hard during the Performance Stability test run, the drive never passed 50° C (with a 24° C ambient temperature). https://www.kitguru.net/components/ssd-drives/simon-crisp/corsair-mp600-pro-xt-2tb-ssd-review/15/ See.... There is no need for the added costs. Yep, probably not the huge cost difference between the model with and without the water cooling gear but as I said, not really needed 🙂 As a sidenote. Flash nand will gain from higher temps (reliability). And below 70C for the controller won't be a problem (no throttling). Edit. Enjoy. Corsair went cheapo as I said above. Get rid of the thin block of alu and use the metal cooler plate that follow your MB. And it will look prettier as well.

Not sure whats up with his system but no ssd should throttle below 70C. And here we see even below 50C. And if the Corsair ssd show this behaviour I would avoid it.

The main problem... All Ryzen Zen4 chips can and will run 95C. There is people out there who think an lower performing SKU will run cooler (less noise). Those will select the weaker Cpu due they hope for less noise and less warming up the office/gaming room. + they are cheaper. But as you know thats not AMDs goal with Zen4 chips. Hence we now see idiocy features added in bios because people have complained about noise and computers that works as heaters in their rooms. Yooo get what you ask for, LOOL

Most new modern MB have good enough metal heatsink for any brands m.2 ssd you will install. If the need is still there you can later buy a water cooler M.2 heatsink from any brand. Amazon have the Corsair cooler for sub 40$. No need to overspend if the MB's own features can handle it. Rather look for a great deal for an m.2 ssd with the size you prefer. From 10:30

Asus limits the temperature of Ryzen 7000 on its motherboards. All to help the owners of Ryzen Zen4 processors to fight against AMD's "new normal". https://notebooktalk.net/topic/109-official-benchmark-thread-post-it-here-or-it-didnt-happen-d/?do=findComment&comment=15966

Asus follow Dell's route. Dell's head thermal engineer Travis North was one of the first to introduce such type features in a computer. You just have to love the ingenuity/the strife Asus do for copycating Dell. I wonder who'm of the users have asked for this. Maybe AMD has whispered in someone's ear at Asus? Noone who want AMD's "new normal" ?🙃 I wonder what Asus will gain from offer this new "feature". Asus limits the temperature of Ryzen 7000 on its motherboards overclocking.com Asus informs us that the brand has decided to react to the CPU temperature recorded on the new Ryzen 7000 processors. Indeed, during our tests, and despite a consequent liquid cooling system, our Ryzen 9 7950X reached a temperature of 92°C during the Cinebench R23 benchmark in multi threads. ASUS will introduce a new exclusive feature for Ryzen 7000 processors on its X670/B650 motherboards in a future BIOS update. Note that as you can see here, some models already have an update available. We find there in particular the ROG Crosshair X670E Gene and ROG Crosshair X670E Extreme that we have tested.

Nvidia has nothing to come up with if they brand it 4070 Ti. The Ti cards often come after the xx70 cards as a refresher before the new generation of cards (2 years cycle for same arch) is out. Or brand it Super. They just can't push this cards out as a refresher to compet with AMD's mid cycle cards. Amd will tune their cards to match this cards performance due they now know the specs. Nvidia have with this opened up what to come from nvidia. Some that remember AMD pulled out a new vbios a couple of days after release because they screwed up their own launch? On the other side... They can of course tune drivers to make this card to perform at their likings. None should get too much performance out from it if it's not needed or wanted.

I understand 4 languages without much problems but German is hard (impossible for me to understand without translation). But many articles in this language is quite awesome 🙂

There is still hope if you dare try it🙂 But be sure you have one of these where you sit if you need it...... The fact is: every card that (at least theoretically) has a power limit of more than 450 MUST be supplied with all 4 cables of the adapter. However, with three cables and the setting that you only want to use up to 450 watts, you can also simply lead the sense pin of the fourth open cable to ground. In fact, a simple jumper across both sense pins of this socket is sufficient, since the other one was already connected to ground in the socket. https://www.igorslab.de/so-funktioniert-nvidias-4-fach-adapter-fuer-den-12vhpwr-anschluss-der-geforce-rtx-4090-mit-workaround/2/

As I said. If there is no hurry then wait until summer 2023. Everyone was scared up due possible 850W graphics cards from Nvidia. But as you know, the smoke and fire stopped that goal from the Green goblins. But there is no need for ATX 3.0 now. Hence you don't see many offer new high end models (+1500w) with the real new specs. This will be for 2023. Even then there is not the big need if you already have a powerful PSU that can handle 4090 with ease. And who run +1200W load 24/7/365 with mainstream setups. Even a good quality 1000w psu is enough for Nvidia's latest and greatest.

The only option I my self would go when I purchased the PSU early spring was the Corsair AX1600i. But I looked at the reviews and in my wallet. I had to pay 40% more for the Corsair here in Norway. And both offer 10 years warranty. And BeQuiet is known for an ok quality. The cables is good and the overal function/design/performance. And it comes top for 1500W PSU and the reviewer at Tomshardware put Corsair on top for PSU's above 1600w. Almost full pot in the stars help as well. Not many power suplies is so close 5 stars. For me it was the the money and the value of the products. Only 22$ cheaper than the flagship (Corsair AX1600i). But you'll get the 12VHPWR cables. And you need only one. Ngreedia killed of the options to have 2x 4090.

I don’t think you’ll save much power whatsoever PSU. I got the Dark Power 12 Pro (10 years warranty) early this year and happy with it. Even only 1500w it provides more power than the 1600 SuperNova T2. Best time to buy new high end PSU is next summer. Maybe too long to wait. The high end Corsair 1600 is what to get if money ain’t your problem (but what you save on the electricity bill won’t cover the higher price). See also Best Power Supplies of 2022 - Top PSUs for Gaming PCs | Tom's Hardware

Why the need right now? They have still a lot Ampere silicon to get rid of. And their AIB partners have probably a lot as well. See: When the GeForce RTX 4090 and the two GeForce RTX 4080s were released at the time, Nvidia had already emphasized that the GeForce RTX 3080, 3070 and 3060 (Ti) of the Ampere generation should continue to be offered below the GeForce RTX 4080. https://www.computerbase.de/2022-10 And the new Radeon chips is so tiny and small. And AMD is also keen to let them have lower power consumption for the bragging rights 🙂