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  1. Papusan
    I just open the door so fresh air come in. But 13900K run quite ok regarding temps as long you don't max it out. A lot better than Alder lake. And yet, my bin is about average or slightly above. I think I will gain from adding a second pump. Will see if I find one used and cheap. I have a spare pump but the pump tops is ecual expensive as a new pump, so. Jep. I have seen some with good gain from delidding and some not. I think much is up to how good the soldering was done from Intel. Regarding AMD. I mean if you have an AMD graphics card the Cpu scores will be lower in many benches. Have seen it myself (intel cpu and AMD graphics). Not sure whats up with AMD. Maybe I do something wrong, but I don't think so. So from what I have seen, I avoid this brand. Even if benches was a bit better than Intel. The Red pill just doesn't fit me 🙂
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    Yes. bro Fox. I would put Ryzen Zen 4 in the same basket. I prefer not to by anything from AMD as well. This doesn't look fun. Even LN2 can't save it. I prefer have fun with what I pay for. And this isn't. https://hwbot.org/submission/5114830_papusan_pifast_core_i9_13900k_(8p)_9sec_50ms?recalculate=true https://hwbot.org/submission/5114826_papusan_cinebench___r23_multi_core_with_benchmate_core_i9_13900k_44878_cb
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    4090 is the only ADA card launched. There isn't any other options if you want a brand new card. And new cards also means people will fight to get the cards first. Aka prices will go up above MSRP. At release/launch day I coud get a card a hell lot cheaper than what they cost now. But once the card was out for over a week or so the prices went up. Thats the normal with a launch. The first one to buy have to pay higher prices. This is how the game is. Once AMD is out with their new cards and nvidia launch 4080 there will be easier and easier to get 4090. And at more normal prices. The worst problem for me is what models that will be available. I don't want jump on a model I don't like or want. Then I will rather sit and wait what to come.
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    Thats not bad😎 Cheapest 4090 available here home is 2,736.47 USD (included tax). So don't whine brother😀 This is the price we had to pay for 3090 under the mining race (if we could find cards in the stores).
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    EVGAs new stuff after they scrapped make graphics cards. All too much nope from me. Weird choices from EVGA. EVGA's new Octopus And here is more from todays new tech.......... A new native ATX 3.0 connector melted/burnt (MSI MPG A1000G) And CableMod stop shipping theirs while ModDIY reassured their cable is fine What a disaster this has become. New has to be better, LOOL
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    You get a board for 200$ if you have to upgrade every year. This if you absolutely want stay on latest tech all time. And you can trade in your old MB to offset half of the costs. I can't see this is a huge problem. And you don't need high end MB for gaming. Neither do you need it for content creation/normal use. Your normal costs will always be around half of what you have to pay on the Store. If you want to go cheap then look after proper deals... They will always pop up 🙂 If you have to pay for ram you'll come sub 500$. Or cheaper if you buy used memory or have it from before. Use it one or two year, then pop in an cheap used 13900K (if you need more power) and ride it out. Can't be much cheaper than this. The worst cost will be a graphics cards. Not the platform. And you can still get a few cash back if you sell the well used old platform on the used market as long the pc still works as intended (here home... We don't have to pay a penny for selling our used items). I buy a lot used stuff for my hobby. And you don't have to or need to be with the newest all time 🙂
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    My edit above. Nvidia have now the golden chance to go back to Titan branding to max out profits from the full fat ADA and just let the down cut 4090 be the fastest geforce gaming card at +1600$. And nvidia only need to change 4080 price point now to fit in the 4080 Ti. What aboth 4080Ti@1299$ and $1099 for 4080 if the performance difference between 4080 and AMD cards isn't huge. Nvidia can upsell their better features if 4080 lack the full power to beat AMD overall. People may agree to pay 99$ for Nvidia's better features as long the card perform around the same.
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    Maybe this will force Google to change their mind? Mozilla Firefox may continue support Windows 7 and 8.1 for longer Mozilla may extend Firefox on Windows 7 and 8.1 support. The company has scheduled its end of support for January 2023, but now considering shifting the EOS date.
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    LOOL. AMD wanted create a card that fits well in a small Dell Alienware chassis. HaHaaaaaaa. Maybe the idea come from Azor? The future is SFF. But Nvidia have no cards to compete with at this price point. Will be fun to see if nvidia change 4080 prices before or after the launch. Maybe they will wait after the launch of the AMD cards to see where the 4080 should be priced? Edit. Nvidia have now the golden chance to go back to Titan branding to max out profits from the full fat ADA and just let the down cut 4090 be the fastest geforce gaming card at +1600$.
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    If AMD struggle to sell out their AM5 platform and Zen4 chips this year and instead hope it will increase into 2023 then you'll have Intel with a brand new platform who will run into 2025. And new tech is out then. AMD need to do something now... Not late spring next year or coming summer. Then it's too late. Also don't forget that many will keep their platform up to 5 yerars without the need for change. They just put in a new graphics card and keep on. I know... My sons do the same. And they are both gamers. Not as old pa😄 You won't be able to sell much of the new expensive platform if you continue pump out old hardware as below. And low sales of the new AM5 platform means AMD/partners have to pay more for the parts for the MB (see article above). Aka low sales of the new MB's means they are stuck at high prices and can't sell it cheaper than it is. One of AMDs problems... People don't want to pay for overpriced HW. "This is fantastic news for those on the AM4 platform that were dreading the prospect of not only having to buy a +++$400-ish processor, but also a $200+ motherboard and optionally new DDR5 memory." RTX 4090 & 53 Games: Core i9-13900K vs Ryzen 7 5800X3D Review REVIEW GRAPHICS CARDS Intel's new 13900K offers amazing gaming performance, thanks to improvements to caches, IPC and higher operating frequencies. But is that enough to beat the 3DV Cache-powered AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D? What about platform cost?
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    Have seen several with exactly same problems. Could be sBios/Mb don’t play well with the cards. People start up and everything works well with the card running with all 16 lanes then come back and see only 8. Very random. And sometimes it is stuck with 8 lines all times. Mostly seen on Z690 boards.
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    Me thinking a lot of the fire is due the new modern connectors not propperly connected. They need to be perfectly connected. JonnyGuru almost killed many of the adapers and proper 12VHPWR connectors/cables in his testing. Almost killed them and still no failures. And he have done testing several months and tested many of them. I imagine this mess is hard for Nvidia to try explain the gamers7consumers. A new mounting manual in the GPU package won't fix this. Many don't seems to understand how it important this is to follow. Gaming first, then fire, LOOL And this is from AMDs HQ looking into reddit threads right now....
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    Then they will be sued for false advertising. Both Nvidia and their AIC partners will have even more to think about😄 If they can't fix this the proper way they are in deep trouble. What you say reminds me all too much about Dell's AREA-51M jokebook flagship fiasco from Dell Alienware. Dell was forced to castrate the firmware to stop their trashbooks from burning up.
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    I expect we will se many cases with smoke and fire forwards if nvidia can't find the culprit 🙂 And it will be a lot less profits if they have to adjust the prices the way @electrosoft suggested. NVIDIA produced over 100,000 RTX 4090 units thus far By Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 11/04/2022 07:54 PM Since the NVIDIA GeForce, RTX 4090 graphics card came out about a month ago, at least 100,000 of them have been sold, according to data. Read more LOOOL...........
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    Not easy being Nvidia right now. They are into an Firestorm, HaHa RTX 4090 Woes Get Worse: Native 16-Pin Reportedly Melts as Well No one is safe. Have to deal with fire and AMD's new released cards better prices won't be easy. Not sure what's worse for them, LOOL Only 3 cards have gone up in smoke today. As a sidenote... JonnyGuru (from Corsairs Research and development (R&D)) have deleted his reddit account, his quotes and threads. I wonder how deep this nvidia melting tragedy sits. The cancer from angry reddit users pushed him away. The small kids should instead have flooded nvidia support with their anger. Or just buy older gen nvidia graphics or go with AMD😎
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    If the sales of AM5 don’t make a huge sales this year and only will increase next year, AMD has only a few months to do it before Intel is out with a brand new platform. The longer AMD will wait for price reductions will only gain Intel.
  17. Papusan
    The 4080 aint out. And they can manage reduce prices for 4090 down to sub 1500$. Then replace the 4080 price point with an 4080Ti. Put the 4080 back to the price point it was before. Aka only the 4090 owners will be angry. Just pay back $$$ to AIB partners (the difference). As it looks now... Nvidia will loose money and market shares once the new cards pop out from AMD. Better change it now while they have the chance (this will help on - less angry buyers of the launched cards as well). Being in own league offer the most expensive cards (not a very high performance lead) well over its competitor, doesn't make it easier to keep up market shares. Intel learned their lesson with Raptor lake. On time Nvidia do the same. AMD have same problem as nvidia now have, with their Ryzen Zen 4 chips. The sales dosn't looks great. They are bad.
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    <With the market conditions at the time they didn't have to> Remember the (higher end) nvidia cards is more expensive to produce than the glued together AMD cards). And Nvidia isn't known for reducing prices for their whole GPU stack if they aren't forced to do so. We''ll see. But one thing for sure.... They need a card around 1000-1100$ to keep up market shares. They just can't let AMD eat more of it. <As for pricing if Nvidia really wants to compete. Keep the 4090 $200 more than the 7900xtx, 4090ti is a true halo product at $1499 adjust down accordingly to compete> People that want the best will gladly pay +-1500$ for 4090. And they would gladly pay 1800$ for a full fat 4090Ti 🙂 And Nvidia And the majority of gamers ain't in this segment, so. Why give away profits for nothing? Nope, that won't fit Ngreedia.
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    nvidia didn't change prices for 3090 when 3090 Ti popped up (And why should they now as there is no competition for the performance crown?). Nvida have screwed up very hard with the launch of 4000 series. Where should they put 4080Ti if they shrink prices? They need a card around 1000-1100$ to push AMDs best card of the cliff. And that won't be from the 4080. Only 4080Ti can do that.
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    If Amd can't compete for the performance crown. Why should Nvidia release 4090Ti sooner than later? 4090Ti will fit well as mid cycle upgrade (same arc have 2 years cadence). Better for <nvidia milk as long they can with 4090 at $1600 and let the AIB partners continue with $1600-2000 custom cards. I can't see a single reason Nvidia would kill this chance for profits on cut down silicon. It doesn't make sense change the 4090 price point before they are force to. Nvidia's problem was that they priced 4080 wrong. And they destroyed the chance to put correct price point for an 4080Ti.
  21. Papusan
    Beacause he is that good. No one is on his level😉 The bill reflect the skills The charge reflect the skills, LOOL
  22. Papusan
    DDR5 SO-DIMM offer disgusting timings and not very high ram speed. I just can't see DDR5 is a good value with laptops. And for most of the laptop models (most brands) you can't tune the ram settings in bios. Almost as soldered ram chips but replaceable. You will be stuck with what the bios accept and what the engineers will give you of options. Be happy with what you have bro ryan 🙂 Even with desktops the DDR5 sticks won't make a huge difference vs good quality high speed DDR4.
  23. Papusan
    I saw this. Noctua have started sell anti-vibration gaskets meant for water cooling radiators. I checked the price on Amazon. Wopping $9.90 for a pack of thin sheet of brown or black rubbers. Whats wrong with todays tech manufacturers bean counters? Don't they see there is something very wrong with how they put the prices? This is even more expensive than many good cooling fans. Pervers. And only $4 below paying for a real Noctua fan. Yep, this is disgusting. And what if you need the 4th rubber gasket? Pay the same $10 twice for the second package or $20 for all 4 rubbers if you have an 480 mm rad? At least put in 4 of them in a package for same awful price. Buy it? Nope. Hell freeze before I jump on such a deal. 5 pack fans for $15. Something is very wrong if Noctua has to sell this piece of thin flimsy rubber for 70-75% prices of what 5x 120mm fans costs. Even Nvidia isn't on this level of stupidity!!
  24. Papusan
    You still mean Nvidia can and will charge 1600$ for the vanilla and 2000$ for the custom 4090 cards? And where will they place 4090Ti into this? Heck, the 4090Ti will be an improvement and maybe nvidia place it right below 2000$ or in best case 1900$. This will kill all the custom 4090 sales. Every single of them. And 1200$ for 4080. Then we have a possible 4080Ti in the stack. Where will they put this card? AMD have closed all te rooms for Nvidia as I see it. If AMD offer a good performer they will change where Nvidia will have to put the prices for better their cards. Or they will loose a lot of market shares. Fancy features or not over AMD doesn't matter. What matter is if the people is willing to spend much above 1000$. A few will do, but sales of 4090/4090Ti from 1600-2500$ will be slim. All they have to compete with forwards is an overpriced 4080@1200$ cards. This card should have never been above 700$. In worst case 799$ due greed and money inflation.
  25. Papusan
    My best guess... AIB partners will take an advantage of the ok'ish prices from AMD. They have a big opportunity now to increase profits for the better custom 7900 SKUs. This because custom Nvida cards is priced well above 1600$ and around same or slightly lower performance shouldn't cost "cheap" 999$. Don't expect that the gamers will benefits from more normal price points from AMD. The best gamers can do now is to buy the cheaper SKUs at 1000$ and skip the more expensive custom cards. See... More power to the buyers. But will they? Probably because we live in times with less money in our hands.
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