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TechPowerUp Releases ThrottleStop 9.6—Take Control Over Your Processor's Power Management Techpowerup.com - Today, 17:49 TechPowerUp today released the latest version of ThrottleStop by Kevin Glynn, a utility that gives you fine control over your processor's power-management, letting you squeeze the most performance out of it without having to overclock it. This utility is particularly useful to override processor power-management by OEMs in notebooks, although it's just as useful for desktops. Version 9.6 of ThrottleStop adds support for 13th Gen Core desktop and mobile "Raptor Lake" processors. A bug that caused stability issues with AVX512 has been fixed. The maximum possible IccMax values for 12th Gen and 13th Gen Core processors has been increased. FIVR-PL4 reporting has been fixed for some CPUs. There are several aesthetic updates to the user interface with this release. DOWNLOAD: TechPowerUp ThrottleStop 9.6 by Kevin Glynn (unclewebb). Version history - 9.6 added 13th Gen desktop and mobile Rocket Lake support including 13700HX. restored proper scaling on high dpi 4K monitors. increased maximum IccMax for 12th and 13th Gen processors. added Undervolt Protection reporting to the FIVR window. fixed FIVR - PL4 reporting for some CPUs. disabled the TS Bench - Random MHz feature when TPL - Speed Shift is not checked. improved the Windows Defender Boost feature so it begins immediately when ThrottleStop starts. added ExitTime=1 INI option to force ThrottleStop to exit 1 second after it starts. disabled safe start feature when Stop Data is being used. added an extra digit to the microcode version reporting. fixed SLFM check box showing on screen when the CPU does not support SLFM. fixed Limit Reasons reporting for Goldmont and Goldmont Plus processors. fixed AVX512 bug.
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Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Maybe go for the 3090. Nvidia will rather produce the better chips for AI than more of the 4090's. They prefer that people rather walk with the cut down 70% overpriced 4080'sor the more castrated 4070's. If this is correct then don't expect huge discounts on 4090's. More fun for you and I don't think you'll loose more money vs 3080 Ti if you resale it later in the used market. The bigger 24GB vram buffer will still have it's value. The AI chip boom is propelling Nvidia to new heights, gamers be damned This partly explains why Nvidia has moved some production of GeForce RTX 4090 GPUs to make more Hopper-based H100 enterprise GPUs. To put things into perspective, the RTX 4090 sells for around $1,600, while used H100 cards sell for over $40,000 on eBay. -
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Fantastic. Not everyday Pcworlds editors shine like this. Lost generation, LOOL And he was spot on when he didn't put 4090 into this Hall Of Shame. Just lovely...... New one out. The praised 90 degree adapter is on the way kill/reduce CableMods reputation. They mostly also damage the GPU side connector in same fire. Not enough replace the melted adapter. You also need RMA the card itself. Bro @electrosoft maybe use one of the small thermocouples with flat edge/end (come with MB and some chassis) and tape it on the 12VHPWR connector with kapton tape. Then monitor the temp with alarm. Melted STRIX RTX 4090 180 adapter -
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Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Here is another one. But this one have nice and equally round bubbles, and fully molded/welded to the GPU connector. How many have nice plastic bubbles in their PC box they don't know about yet? Yep.... CableMod say they use plastic is of high quality. Can whitstand 110C bro @electrosoft You know the drilll.... Why pay extra if you don't get much in return. Thats wasted money. And pretty or aesthetics cable management will never replace piece of mind. Just stay with the PSU manufacurers native 12VHPWR cables. Mostly cheaper than the custom adapters/cables from well known vendors. Seasonics have even started offer 90 degrees adapters. Bling bling and pretty aesthetics often goes hand in hand. I can easly live without it😎 I was going to check for melting issues... Maybe all the custom adapters should come with a a free box for fire fighting? Even Nvidia and their AIC partners could offer it for their expensive 4090s😆 Just put on their logo for promoting their brand. And nice to see Nvidia won't get it the way they hoped for. Greed comes with some sideeffects. Just one person showed up to buy an RTX 4060 Ti for its late night Akihabara launch Two stores opened late in Japan's Akihabara district for the event, but it's become painfully clear they wasted their money. Not sure if the seller or the buyer feels he are alone in the universe🙂 -
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I'm sure it will come to the consols as well.... Xbox Series S Suffers from VRAM Limitations, Just Like -
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4060ti or 4070 for 1080P 144hz? I plan to not upgrade for the next 5-10 years.... Oh my gosh. -
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Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
I wonder what cable/adapter was used. But posted on CableMod/reddit. What is a day without new black screens due the 12VHPWR 🙂 It was the E-series 12VHPWR cable. 12vhpwr adapter just broke my 4080 Suprim. A couple of days before and he talked about 8 adapters. Suddenly 20 failures, Hmmm I wonder how many they are with the real numbers. -
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Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
What you really get with an fully spec'd ATX 3.0 PSU. Same cable but with double up of the hated small 12VHPWR connectors😎 Can't beat that... Huuuuhuuu. Maybe you'll see smoke on both ends, LOOOOOL With the 1200$ price point as first card... Nvidia wooould be killed by the reviewers. Start a new launch with a card priced 72% above previous gen. I can't imagine how that would be. More likely more damaging than we aready have seen🙂 -
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Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Yep, there is nothing in between. Gamers on (limited) budget should just buy a used card for 1080P gaming. Pay +400$ or 488$ here home for about the same experience is just stupid. Now, one just need to find the best deals for 1440P. Or go for 4090. The "in middle" is a mess. And this don't stop the fire. Stupid is the new normal. What good would a brand new ATX 3.0 PSU do better than my 1 year old Be Quiet! Dark Power Pro 12 - 1500W PSU with 2x native 12VHPWR adapter cables from the PSU manufacturer? They all use same 12VHPWR connector all over. The only difference is the connector on the PSU side. Single vs dual connector point. And to make it less appealing. You get the dreaded tiny fragile 12VHPWR connector instead for a real massive 8/12 pin power connector for the PSU connection🙂 So the best safeguard against the issue is probably to avoid using any adapter and simply "upgrade to an ATX 3.0 PSU". https://www.techspot.com/news/98819-users-report-melting-16-pin-rtx-4090-power.html There is no need to use the added adapter from the GPU box or buy a custom made cable/adapter. Neither is it a need to buy a ATX 3.0 PSU. Just buy the recommended cable from the PSU manufacturer. You will still risk the same fire regardless what option you go with. The ATX 3.0 PSU won't change that facts. And for what good is it to have double up with the tiny small weak 12VHPWR connectors for your shiny ATX 3.0 PSU? @Mr. Fox😀 You only get double up with the hated new and modern power connector, LOOL -
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Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
You talk about those that build new or want a new Pc. I talk more about people upgrading their graphics cards. And many of thos aren't willing to pay 20-75% higher prices vs previous gen cards. And nvidia and AMD will soon enough see the paint on the wall. If people can't afford it, they will go after the used market. This ain't for the best for nvidia and AMD. The cheapest used 3070 cost 314.82 USD here. And 6800XT is like 483 USD used. This is included tax (Because I compare all prices vs new cards). I would be damn stupid if I bought the brand new 4060Ti for $488 USD for 1080P gaming. With some ice I would probably get the 3070 below 300$ here home. And as a reminder. We have 5 years free warranty here home. No in Hell I would pay 60% more for the same experience or their new software &features. 300 vs the pitful 488 scalper deal is appealing if you only intend to play 1080P (You save over 50% in cash). Even more vs 1440P gaming. Because 1440p gaming won't happen before we see close to $800 here home. Nvidia and AMD have destroyed the 1440P gaming with this gen cards. People can handle their 1080P needs with ease without being scalped by nvidia and AMD. Just use what they have above their shoulders. Just don't buy any of the new fancy overpriced 4060Ti or the RX7600 cards. Then you have come a long way🙂 -
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Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Look at this.... There is nothing new below $500 for 1440P. And the coming 4060Ti@16GB ain't a real 1440P card. If I had 500$ I would never buy anything of the new. Nothing! Zero! GPU Upgrade Recommendation I rather sit on the fence or try see if I could find used cards that fits my goals. Or just ride on what I already have and buy the cheapest I can find for 1080P thats better than what I already have. If either Nvidia, Intel or AMD could offer a real 1440P card at $490/500 I expect the cards would sell in loads. If you want 1080P gaming then it's easier. Find the cheapest used card you can find. No need to pay more than absolutely necessary. Used cards will pop up. And let Nvidia and AMD burn in with the new and overpriced. -
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Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
People will start buy if the prices is more correct (if they have the money but sit on the fence due overpricing). But, yep some will pay whatever nvidia will charge them. But those ain't in majority. Nvidia and AMD won't sit still while the ship is sinking. Remember it only took one day to push prices below MSRP for 4060Ti. And more will come. -
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Everything would look nicer if Nvidia could stick to same 6.6% price hike as 4090 for all cards outside the 4060Ti and below (those should have been cheaper). The ice on the cake would be if Nvidia could keept 4090 at $1499. Everyone understand that money will lose it's value with inflation. But there is a major difference between up to +72% price increase and 6.6% price inflation. And 4060Ti and SKUs below is die/mem bus capped so the prices for those cards has to be put well below MSRP and infation... Gaming is still important for Nvidia. But if they price their Geforce gaming products the way they do now, we will see nvidia will see worse times forwards..... Press Release If they already have a torque screwdriver... Why not test the torque on the orginal ILM? Start with low torque value and work you upwards to find the specs. This before you remove the ILM for the contact frame you anyway will swap in. -
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"ZERO" RTX 4060 Ti pre-launch consumer interest reported as retailers allegedly anticipate extremely low demand Another source mentioned that the RTX 4060 Ti could be “VERY” easy to get possibly due to low demand. Where's the miners? And where is the scalpers? Sleeping? 8GB vram should be more than enough for mining😁 How gamers feel about the new Gpu prices and Nvidia's cost cuttings............. Fed up with NVIDIA and AMD pricing? Intel Arc A750 GPU is down to $199 There's a lot of fuss right now about AMD and NVIDIA's new mid-range RDNA 3 and Lovelace graphics cards, with the RTX 4060 Ti just emerging today, and the RX 7600 set to be hot on its heels tomorrow - but what if you want a much more wallet-friendly GPU than either of those? Come on Intel.... Push it down to $160 and you'll own most of the 1080P gaming market. And please, do the same with Intel Arc A770. Sub $210 anyone? Edit. LOOL Let the game start for those that don't bother/want play coming games in 1080p Ultra. NVIDIA RTX 4060 Ti drops below MSRP in Germany on its launch day This took much a lot less time than expected. -
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Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
So in short. Only two good options for new GPUs in 2023.... Intel Arc A770 and the brand new 4090😎 Fantastic for the gamers. Either go for the top or the bottom. Nothing in between. -
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Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
And AMD doesn't make it much better. Bad producs and quality problems is nowadays golden standard. Cost cutting all over the line. If you cut costs... You have to expect worse products/quality problems. It's up to the consumer if you accept it or not. Both AMD and Nvidia know everything about the competitors new not released products. Almost as they cooperate in the market. And they do. Be you sure. What a ugly business. AMD is a Mess: Radeon RX 7600 GPU Review & Benchmarks AMD Fails Again: Radeon RX 7600 Review AMD is on the way damaging their brand due they want nvidia prices vs performance. They lack the features but still want Nvidia price premium. It was the same with their first gen 16 cores Ryzen chips. They was the first brand to put $800 USD in modern time for a mainstream Cpu. -
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Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
And it continue. CableMod is under fire😎 Will Cable Mod issue an recall of all cable/adapters and offer all revised 12VHPWR products to everyone? Nope. This would damage their reputation and cut into the profits (pure loss). Black screens, shutdowns and crashes........ Feel you are lucky. Could be worse😁 Black screen, fans revving up to 100%, pc remains unusable - RTX 4090 So I have some issues I think with my CableMod 180 deg adapter and/or my CableMod 12VHPWR cable connected to it. I previously used an nvidia adapter, no issue Meltfest incoming....... Where is the quality control with companies these days.. it's a joke. The only people who lose are the consumers when the blame game starts and you can't get refunds because of all the finger pointing. All I'm seeing is "premium" exorbitantly overpriced and poorly manufactured products. -
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Papusan replied to wardnine's topic in What Laptop Should I Buy?
HaHa, LOOL. Thanks. You was spot on. Here are the same CBR-23 benchmarks from Intel 13980HX but on AC power. Even the almost blind man can see the differences.... Between AC vs battery Intel Core i9-13980HX Processor - Benchmarks and Specs -
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Here's the Jayz 4060Ti review video that got off-loaded from YouTube... This card can serve you a few years forwards (from 12:00), LOOL Boiled down. A amazing card for MSRP - A really really solid cards for the money🤢 https://www.virustotal.com/gui/url/9106dd2739c4a217de56fd38373b5c5c1020f00643925f2860a7ef3a461f0d8f?nocache=1 https://files.catbox.moe/ef3b94.webm https://web.archive.org/web/20230523162823/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=995Vu55tpfM KitGuruTech - RTX 4060 Ti 8GB - we just can't recommend it [Full Review] 31:53 Closing thoughts. A real shame. Nvidia RTX 4060 Ti Review: 8GB of VRAM at $400 is a No-Go techspot.com -
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Here's one more. Posted 1 hours ago...... Why me?! I've seen the horror stories on this sub of the rare occurrence of melted adapters and I truly hoped I wasn't going to be another. Melted 90 Degree adapter Anyone have seen a statistic if this occurs more on the A or B variant connectors? My HOF card have the connectors soldered the opposite way on the GPU PCB The 4090FE have the connector mounted same way as the HOF. And the 4090Fe card ain't so affected by the smoke and fire even it have a 600W max TGP. Could be a coincidence. But can't see Nvidia have done something different than their AIC partners 4090 cards. The only difference is probably the numbers of cards sold (4090FE's have been is short supply vs all the AIC cards). And the usual QC problems..... You are not alone seeing this bro @electrosoft The included adapter from Gigabyte works just fine but when I use the Cablemod Adapter the GPU randomly spinns up and the PC blackscreens. Yep, the included cable salad is nice to have. A must have spare part for every gamer 🙂 Imagine how it would be for Nvidia and it's AIC partners if the included cable salad have been of similar quality? Not so sure I have seen so many complaints about the included cable is the reason for the many black screens/shutdowns/crashes (I don't talk about the melt Hell who occurs with all sorts of cable/adapters). PC crash with 12vhpwr custom cable -
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Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
What happened to Jayz 4060Ti review video? Why did he off-load the video? Ans is there a cached video out there? Can anyone see whats wrong with Pcmag.com ? Or is it something wrong with the review editor? Maybe he was drunk or something when he reviewed the 4060Ti ..... Nvidia GeForce RTX 4060 Ti Founders Edition Review Verdict: The AMD Radeon RX 6700 XT is available for as low as $319.99 at the time of writing, and though it performs close to the RTX 4060 Ti at times, we’d still say it's worthwhile to spend the extra $80 or so on a $399 Nvidia GeForce RTX 4060 Ti instead. That DLSS 3 support is also the biggest advantage the RTX 4060 Ti has over the RTX 3070. A few base-model RTX 3070 cards are available for $399 at this writing, matching the price of the RTX 4060 Ti. As things stand, we see no reason not to buy the newer card, though we'll have to see how the RTX 4060 Ti's availability and partner-card pricing shakes out on the street. -
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Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
What a failure. Also this time nvidia screwed the the average gamers. Last time, the miner boom. Now overpriced cards that struggle to compete with two years old cards people had problem get because Nvidia prefered the price hike over MSRP. I wonder if the gamers will accept this.... Even 300$ is on the brink being acceptable as a good value. And yep, we still haven't seen 4060 in action with the measly 115W TGP. The RTX 3060 Ti also offered great 1440p gaming, but this is a pure 1080p GPU for $400. Now that we’ve tested the RTX 4060 Ti, we can confirm that it indeed slows down at the higher 1440p resolution. In fact, it can’t even hang tough at 1440p with the RTX 3070, which cost $500 in 2020. You’d expect a new card to at least rival an older GPU that cost just $100 more than it 2.5 long years ago, but the RTX 4060 Ti fails to clear that low bar. Nvidia............. The nvidia way..... Sell software for huge premium! Imagine how bad this would be with older DLSS 2. Yep, Nvidia now selling Trash for premium LOOOL 08:07 - Cyberpunk 2077 - 10:44 - Hogwarts Legacy Yep, new has to be better newer. I wonder whom in Nvidia HQ said that this is acceptable for a 2 years newer graphics card And this is 1080P... Maybe the 4060Ti should be a 720P tier card? Crushed by previous gen xx60Ti In short............ And if you still buy it. You are scammed. -
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Papusan replied to wardnine's topic in What Laptop Should I Buy?
And why are the benchmark scores lower if you run on battery? Magic? Can it really be magic @Mr. Fox @electrosoft @Ashtrix? Or can it be because my English reading skills is not top notch. Explain what this means (drop and significant)..… While the single-thread performance (254 points) drops slightly in battery operation, the drop in the multithread performance is significant (1,303 points). As a side note. The power gimped Intel U Processors normally don’t throttle clock speed on battery because they are already heavily castrated on AC power. -
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GTX 980 - 3DM 06 https://hwbot.org/submission/5280172_papusan_3dmark06_geforce_gtx_980_85923_marks?recalculate=true A better one. But far from taking 4th🙂 This K|ngp|n card should really be under water. Higher voltage doesn't do much (rather unstability). Need it colder. https://hwbot.org/submission/5280177_papusan_3dmark06_geforce_gtx_980_87034_marks?recalculate=true -
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Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Could be he have plugged it in all the way, but didn't notice the tiny wimpy hook would attach properly to the latch. Then it will slide out again before or later. I expect this is one of the reasons for smoke and fire a few months after they started use their +1600$4090. I expect the users should be able to see if the connector have slided out when they disconnect the connector after the fire. But maybe they are in shock after seing the smoke and forgot to check?😎