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I have a hunch they are selling in large measure based on impulsive spending, and that is also by design. If I am going to be honest, I have to admit that I have needed to deliberately close my browser window and walk away from my computer because some of the excellent prices for GPUs that I have ZERO need for are very compelling. The prices are so low compared to the ludicrous prices we became numb to that my dumber self is becoming more difficult to control.

Defender is a virus anti-virus. I love that Chris Titus calls Micro$oft the Mafia, as I have been doing for years. There is no reason to be kind or play nice with Micro$lop or crApple. They are not "good people" and they are not deserving of any respect, kindness or loyalty. They are bad companies that deserve anything bad that happens to them. Remove Defender.zip

Probably so because of the factory soldering of the heat pipes. And, you really don't have any wiggle room to play with there to do something extra or special within such a confined space. Getting a little bit of water circulating through there could be the only thing that would have potential to improve cooling within the confines of the minimal space available.

Dang, that stinks. Sorry to hear that, bro. That scenario is the only circumstance that I can think of where I wished I had Intel integrated graphics functionality when I didn't. It is a nice feature to have when you need it, and the rest of the time it sucks.

I suspect he already has been, even before this video, and most likely they formed an opinion similar to mine about him being a squirrel and prefer to keep their distance. He has some content on his channel that is useful, but the dude is a trailer-trash goofball in my opinion. I base that on his words and behavior, nothing else. His limited vocabulary is a secondary issue and I wonder if his non-chalant use of the F-word and S-word in places where he runs out of meaningful adjectives helps him feel like a big boy.

I always thought that guy was squirrely, but now I know he is absolutely nuts. I don't agree with him at all. Prices are what the market will bear. There is nothing shady or dishonest about it, and if EVGA sells off stock for less or even at a loss as next gen approaches there is nothing wrong with that, and it is not screwing customers that bought at a different price point. If anyone is scummy it is NVIDIA for releasing a 3090 Ti in the first place so they could back-stab 3090 owners. Jules' potty mouth makes him seem even more retarded. And, I don't think Jay was part of any conspiracy. He was told something by somebody and what he was told turned out to be different than what he was told. This guy needs to just pull his panties out of his butt crack and stop smoking crack, LOL. If he wants to do some kind of idiot boycott of the best brand and convinces some of his followers to follow suit, that's great because it leaves more items available from the best brand for the rest of us. I don't need a 3090 Ti and I don't want to spend $1,200 on a GPU that is soon to be obsolete, but watching his video makes me want to grab one from EVGA deliberately out of spite for his nonsense.

Even if you have the iGPU disabled in terms of function (like all Clevos used to be) or have a mux switch, the BCLK is still limited because the CPU still has integrated graphics. Disabling it doesn't get you past that hurdle, unfortunately. You might get it a little more BCLK, but it remains a limiting factor.

I think it depends on a lot of things, including the CPU microcode and Intel ME firmware. Increasing BCLK has the same effect as increasing core ratio, plus other less desirable side effects because doing that overclocks other things that are not normally overclocked. And, increasing voltage is necessary to handle the higher frequencies. BCLK is more limited on CPUs with integrated graphics. I don't remember the exact number now, but I think it is something like 102.7 is the hard limit on modern processors with integrated graphics, because the graphics part of the chip can't deal with higher BCLK.

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100%... Heat increases the need for voltage and adding voltage creates more heat. It becomes a vicious circle. That is why ambient cooling with air or water becomes an impediment sooner. You will eventually hit a wall even with extreme cooling, but that wall is further away.

One of the hardest things to grasp for people that are used to struggling with laptop overclocking when they abandon them and move to desktops is the effect of temperatures. They are so accustomed to everything being a pain in the ass and anything under 90-95°C being viewed as "good" the idea that 50-60°C can actually be "too hot" for anything more than modest overclocking is kind of baffling. I know it was for me at first. A lot changed over the years when I was a laptop jockey. At the time I originally moved from desktops to laptops the concept of PC water cooling was an extremely rare novelty that was insanely expensively and required a degree of custom fabrication or adaptation of parts that were not originally intended for water cooling a computer. Prefabricated components were few and far between and AIOs and water cooling kits, fancy fittings, pumps and reservoirs we're not even invented yet. The first components in the early days were generally limited to water blocks and radiators, and they were crazy expensive novelty items.

Price: $225.00 Condition: Excellent Warranty: None Reason for sale: No longer needed Payment: PayPal or Zelle Item location: San Tan Valley, AZ Shipping: Economy USPS or UPS Ground Included (lower 48 states only) will be included with an asking price sale International shipping: Maybe. Depends on the buyer and their reputation in this community. Will definitely consider it, but all associated costs with international shipping, import duties, VAT, etc. will be paid by purchaser Handling time: Next Business Day Feedback: eBay Profile; OC.net MarketPlace Specification: This was my wife's laptop. She babied it and it is borderline immaculate. It has minimum evidence of normal use. I gave her my Eluktronics Mech 15 as an upgrade and this never gets used. No nasty scratches, dents or cracks... really gorgeous machine. It has a metal chassis and it is built like a tank, but still thin and light by a sane person's standards. Intel i5 CPU, NVIDIA GeForce GT 630M GPU. 16GB of RAM, 500GB OS SSD and 750GB DATA drive, slot loading DVD-RW, Bluetooth, Wireless AC, backlit keyboard and 1920x1080 Gorilla Glass display. Battery is good, takes a full charge. Comes with Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC, Microsoft Office Pro LTSC 2021 and Malwarebytes Premium Lifetime license.

Congrats on the tuning. You are doing a great job, bro. For daily use I would go with something on the verge of extreme, extremely good but not brutal. If your cooler is up to it, you should be able to run that chip 24/7 at 5.3GHz all core, no AVX offset, static voltage at around 1.350-1.375V with high LLC to stop vdroop nonsense and pass a Cinebench run, or 5.4GHz with about 1.420-1.430V. As we chatted about, there is going to be some variance between mobos, but both of those options were 100% stable with the Z490 Dark. On the hotter summer days where I could not keep my office ambient temps cool enough I went with 5.3GHz.

It actually worked about the same as the products der8auer compared it to. There was little very difference in temps. I don't think there is anything that works as well as a custom loop with strong pumps and properly engineered water blocks. It is huge and I expected it would have been better than the other air cooler and small AIO, so the fact that it wasn't is kind of sad. Those are both mistakes that I am not likely to make. Although, there is a greater chance that I would buy an Intel GPU than there is that I would give Ryzen trash another chance. If they lock down their next gen garbage CPUs, then it's not even open for consideration in passing. Like a snowball's chance in hell... zero. I would almost go as far as saying wasting money on a chintzy turdbook would be more likely. At least then you step into it knowing full well that you are spending your money on a POS that is going to suck before you even open the box.

I am not aware of any reason it would be more unsafe than any other direct die setup except for the possibility of condensation, which you would need to guard against with LN2, DICE, phase change, or even chilled water if you are in a humid climate. You would want to insulate the CPU/socket to prevent condensation from forming and causing an electrical short, but the contact itself would not be harmful. The CPU die is not electrified and is in direct contact with metal or liquid metal at all times during normal use. Direct die cooling is not dangerous. The IHS provides a level of protection, but whether that protection is actually necessary is open to debate. In my opinion it is only dangerous if a person is reckless and does something that causes physical damage to the die. It is worth noting that all laptops CPUs and GPUs use direct die cooling.

Chian is a special place designed for people that can't spell.

That is just messed up. I am sorry that is happening. There is no good excuse for it. It is equally wrong to charge sales tax or income tax on the sale of used items where sales tax was already paid when the item was originally purchased and the item is sold for less than the original purchase price. That is double-taxation and being taxed on your loss, not your income. That kind of behavior is a dead giveaway that the government-sponsored organized crime ring that enjoys molesting their citizens is being run by corrupt, unscrupulous and hopelessly evil bastards. But, the label on the outside of the box still cracks me up. How blatantly and deliberately misrepresented... 16 copies of "The Adventure Challenge Couples Book" LOL. And, the customs people are too stupid to use an x-ray machine or shake the box to hear how it sounds? (Maybe a safe assumption there.) I'm pretty sure it wouldn't sound like a box of books if you jiggled it.

LOL... the label on that box to avoid VAT and duties. Prison anyone? 😄 Not sure if that is a felony in the countries that have those Nazi tax schemes or not.

Not that the reviews are totally reliable, but probably no less reliable than YouTube reviewers. Those who purchased it and used it on smaller CPUs seem to be very satisfied with it and some even said it worked better than an AIO cooler it replaced. It doesn't matter that much to me since I have no interest in air cooling whatsoever, but I thought the concept was quite interesting, and it seemed like something that could be more effective than the typical tower air cooler.

Too bad it is not engineered correctly. It could have been a good option for the people that like air cooling, have a lot of available space in their case and short memory modules. I have not watched the video yet. Did Roman figure out why it does not work correctly for Intel CPUs? That seems like a strange condition. (I will watch the video later to see what he revealed.)

Brother @Reciever I know you like using air cooling. Are you familiar with the IceGiant ProSiphon Elite CPU cooler? I stumbled onto that product by accident the other day and it seemed like an interesting concept that would likely work better than most other air cooling options, and maybe even better than some common AIO water cooling units.

I am really leaning toward purchasing products at the threshold of their EOL cycle, too. Everything is overpriced and offers poor value based on price until it is on the verge of becoming obsolete and priced for clearance of stock. It's no secret that EVGA is my favorite brand, and I have never been as pleased with competing motherboards as I have been with their Dark series. To put it bluntly, they have no match. I used to prefer ASUS firmware, but after owning multiple Dark motherboards I no longer think so. The EVGA UEFI interface makes a lot more sense and eliminates menu items for settings that I view as unimportant. A lot of what I disable or enable in the BIOS is set that way by default by EVGA. The Classified seems like an excellent motherboard, but I am also reluctant to consider it due to the 4-DIMM design. Even when you are only using two sticks of memory, the additional slots and longer traces diminish overclocking headroom and impair stability compared to a 2-DIMM design.

I am definitely going to keep an eye open for EK to release that. I already have that water block (with the normal cold plate) on the 12900K in Banshee and it is excellent. I had read where they were working on a bare die kit, but had not seen any photos of it. Now I am more excited about it.

Yes, it is extremely discouraging that there is so much variance, and the fact that even some Kingpin cards have garbage bin quality is demoralizing and feels like a scam. It applies to both GPU core and VRAM. You can get a GPU that the core sucks and the memory rocks (like mine) or a great core and sucky memory, both excellent or both garbage. It is terribly discouraging and one of the reasons you almost never see me running benchmarks anymore. Knowledge and skill don't matter when you get shitty products in the GPU lottery. Brother @johnksss got blessed with a golden KPE sample to the extent that the tragic mishap actually ended up being a random stroke of good fortune. It used to be that you could simply give a GPU with lower ASIC more voltage and it would overclock the same as a GPU with much better ASIC. As long as you could keep it cool enough with the higher voltage, the ASIC really did not matter that much and you couldn't really find a difference in the max overclock ceiling until you exhausted the available voltage and passed through the veil into extreme sub-zero sanctuary. That was true to the extent that I didn't really care what the ASIC was because GPUs overclocked in the same way that CPUs do... just give it whatever extra voltage it needed and everything was fine. Then the Green Goblin developed their dark witchcraft and depraved fetish for sodomizing customers in more brutal ways by introducing firmware that no longer allows the silicon lottery losers to level the playing field with more voltage. They began stacking the cards with Falcon security and hulk-signed firmware with the introduction of Maxwell. The rules have been broken and the game rigged with loaded dice. Winning today is a matter of predestination and generally reserved for those appointed to divine favor. Once you draw a short straw in the modern-day lottery you are sentenced to a cursed existence and permanently doomed to failure due to their AIDS-infected firmware cancer algorithms. No amount of lubricant will be enough to avoid a hemorrhaging and fissured posterior orifice thanks to their virus firmware deployment. But, it is important to note that they don't charge any less for their rubbish silicon samples. You enjoy the privilege of paying the same price for their garbage.