Mr. Fox

Well said, brother. I agree with you. The fact that all of our relationships started at the other place and continued here really speaks to the validity of having personal connections.

There is a chance it has something to do with the version of Windows and the version of Intel ME more than the mobo/chipset, and the newer the filth the more likely it is that stuff is broken. When the people making Windowz are all idiot losers that care more about stupid **** like touch screens and emojies there is not much hope for a better tomorrow on a Winduhz platform.

MSI Dragon Ball.zip for you

I have a version of it, and I think @Papusanposted a link to it a few days ago in this thread. It was right when @Recievergot his system fired up and was asking for suggestions. I will look for it for you.

@electrosofthave you tried MSI Dragon Ball? If it works, I personally think it is WAY BETTER than ASUS MemTweakit. More features and everything on a single page instead of tabbed pages. It worked flawlessly on the Strix mobo I sold to Brother @Reciever but doesn't work on EVGA mobos.

If you are using anything newer than Winduhz 10 v1809 I don't think it is going to work. Windowz is broken when it comes to supporting excellent software and it seems evident that they'll never fix it. You will find it in one of the latest ASUS niche threads at HWBOT forum. It is not officially supported by ASUS anymore because of what bottom-feeding slackers the Redmond Retards have become.

Yup. The poop doesn't get much smellier than that. Macrium Reflect saves my hind end often. It is useful for undoing my mistakes and allows me a hassle-free experience with no-commitment OS experimentation. I keep Windows 11 on my benching rig and log in once in a while so that when I rail on how crappy it is to the fanboys I can say that I have it and use it. That give weight to the hate. In case you didn't test it, CPU performance, memory speed and memory latency are all worse with Windows 11 than Windows 7 or Windows 10. Funny how a company can lose a contest against itself, generation upon generation. They're not moving forward. Installing Windows 11 accomplishes nothing meaningful. Doing so it a total waste of time because there is no benefit to having it, only a loss of performance and functionality.

https://hwbot.org/submission/4987673_

Did a fresh reinstall of Windows 7 (versus an import from Z490 Dark). Nice to see my Physics score beat the Ryzen 5950X with half as many cores/threads. https://hwbot.org/submission/4987667_ - 3DMark 11 Physics Test - 38173 https://hwbot.org/submission/4987644_

Everything has become a touchy subject lately. Creating division is probably part of some greater plan that nobody wants to believe could be real. Merely mention the name of any politician, regardless of the context, and somebody(ies) are going to get butt hurt about it and start attacking other people that they believe are being critical of a person or group they tried their best to choose as being the lesser among evils at the polls, LOL. The world is not a happy place for anybody to live in right now. I'm glad we have each other and our PC passions to distract us from the mess.

Yup. It was sad that it had to die. But, I totally get it. TechTarget isn't a charity. If I were the owner I also wouldn't have wanted to continue spending my money to support something that served no useful purpose, produced no income or benefit for the furtherance my business. It would have been nicer and a more positive reflection on the company had they been more flexible in allowing ownership of it to pass to another entity or group that wanted to keep it going. Que sera sera. Life goes on.

This is also relevant in the context of GPU prices and the ability of anyone that hasn't recently lost any wealth they have earned, and the ability to replace it, to purchase a GPU. When it costs +100% more to gas up your car and +30% more to purchase basic necessities like food, guess how many people ain't gonna be buying a shiny new GPU unless they can put it on a credit card and take 10 years to pay for it?

Talking about real life actual things that have happened to us personally is not politics. It is a documented life event and the person that held political office at that point in time is also. Trump did impose tariffs on China, The companies being charged them passed the added costs to the end user. Historically extreme inflation and damage to my retirement accounts came about based on decisions made by his successor. If we lose the ability to publicly complain about our lives being damaged by decisions our leaders make that directly affect us and are well doumented, we may as well as live in China or North Korea.

Part of it is supply and demand got messed up by the crypto money from nothing craze, and part of it was corporate greed and probably some artificial manipulation of supply and demand to power that greed. And, NVIDIA basically having a one-horse show for more than a decade, with consumers (me included) being stupid enough to pay asinine prices to get what they wanted instead of tell them to cram their silicon garbage where the sun don't shine. It is interesting to note that with crypo values plumetting, the supply is much better and now the prices are moving back the right direction. I hope the cooling off period that occurred due to unavailable product and hyper-inflated prices causes an overabundance of supply and they end up having to sell stock at a loss to move it. It would definitely be a just reward.

I know I care a whole lot more about rate at which my retirement is being systematically destroyed than I do about how much GPUs cost. I was already going to have to work until probably age 75 before I could afford to retire, and at the rate these clowns are causing my 401K and IRA to hemorrhage it might end up being 85 now. My nest egg had begun growing at an impressively healthy and unprecedented rate until the regime change, but the Socialist Party has messed things up pretty bad for me. I hope there is an opportunity to repair the damage before it's too late. About a year ago it used to cost me $35 to fill the tank on my Ford 500. I filled it up today and it was $80. What wonderful "progress" for America. GPUs don't seem too important right now. Luxury items tend to take a back seat to basic necessities. That might bring GPU prices down, too. You can't buy groceries or drive to work with a GPU.

https://www.overclock.net/threads/new-12700k-build-i-was-told-100-to-use-win-11.1797876/post-28982208

LOL. For a few seconds I was like, "wait, what is this all about" ...then it clicked... Good one.

Yeah, he nailed it. If you're a "normie" that is frightened of tuning a computer or just a click-and-run jockey with no interest or skill, buy it. The captured comment (screenshot below) seems evident about AMD in general, they just went to the extreme to make this CPU worthless to every performance enthusiast on the planet. Even their "unlocked" CPU suck at overclocking. Whether that is due to intent or incompetence is anyone's guess. No thank you. No thank you.

The enthusiast-grade consumer CPUs like 10900K and 12900K are ideally suited for multi-purpose workloads, including gaming. You can overclock them, run them stock, undervolt them... a lot of flexibility that is not available for locked-down peasant-grade CPUs with fewer cores. That said, you can also overspend and hurt your results if you go overboard on the CPU. It is not uncommon to see better gaming performance from CPUs in the 6 to 12 core range. When you start going above 12 core/24 thread the gaming performance tends to often go the opposite direction. They are certainly more powerful, excellent for benching and severe demand CPU workloads, but they are not ideally suited for some games that get easily "confused" by the excessive core/thread count available to them.

Spending gobs of money on high end hardware for gaming is truly foolish and unwarranted. There will always be random exceptions of shoddy coding of games (software) that requires an inordinately strong CPU or GPU to perform well enough to not be a miserable experience. For all intents and purposes, anything between, and including, a 1070 and 3060 is more than enough juice to have a pleasant gaming experience if you tune the settings to match the hardware correctly. The exception is an abnormally heavy use of ray-tracing. The high-end enthusiast parts are useful for other hobbies, like overclocked benching and e-peen competition, but gaming isn't a hobby that warrants the added expense. I also agree that it is very difficult for me to spot a huge difference (sometimes any difference) in how a game looks while moving from low to medium, or medium to high/ultra. If I have to pay close enough attention to the subtle differences, then I am nit-picking rather than enjoying playing the game. Things like hitching and stuttering are far more noticeable and visually harmful to the gaming experience than things like a few extra jaggy edges, subtle improvements in texturing or a few extra sparkles here and there that nobody other than a photo-realism snob cares about. My favorite pets are the ones that belong to someone else. I do prefer cats because they eat less and are lower maintenance, less dependent on attention from their master, less messy and can be left to take care of themselves outdoors if you go out of town on a business trip or vacation. As long as they have water, they'll eat bugs, mice, snakes, lizards or whatever. I like both cats and dogs and enjoy their companionship as long as they are gentle and well-mannered, but not fond of the added responsibility and expense of caring for pets. We have two cats now. I love them, and they're good kitties, but often wish we didn't have them only because pets of any kind are an added hassle I can happily live without. I tend to place much greater value on my property than I do the pets/pests that can damage the property. If they damage any of my important stuff, I have to resist the urge to kill them to ensure it never happens again. I think that all aggressive pets need to be euthanized. If they cause harm or injury to humans or other pets, that warrants death. Having the monitoring features is useful when the information is accurate. But, definitely not at the expense of sacrificing performance induced by the bloatware supporting it. If you have to use resource-sapping bloatware to output the sensor data that kind of negates the value of the monitoring features. At best, you are left with an extra task of having to monitor or manage the systemic impact of the monitoring software overhead.

Yeah, they are good. I used to listen to them too, and totally forgot about them. Thanks for the reminder. 🙂

The picture of the kitty with the sunglasses is what sold me. It doesn't need to perform well as long as I have that.

I am really happy with these bare die temperatures. This is three back-to-back runs of CBr20.