Mr. Fox

Is the PSU also Copilot+ certified and an "AI-ready" product? Wait and see is always the best approach. 24C/48T should be nice. The weakness for all of our consumer Intel and AMD processors is not enough PCIe lanes.

@Meaker hit the nail on the head. The connector, not the PSU, is what needs to be carefully monitored. It is more likely to fail than the PSU. Only fanboys pay more for ROG-branded PSUs and peripherals. The branding does nothing beneficial for anyone except for ASUS. They benefit by scalping their fanboys. Edit: 5050 = 50/50 aka "half-a$$ed"

But now you know the whole story and have a better idea what is happening with power consumption. Even when it doesn't matter and you don't object to what you find out, you're better off knowing than having no idea. And, now you can explain to your wife why the sudden spike in the monthly power bill. You can also use those meters on other appliances around the house to see how much juice they are leeching.

It is pretty sinister and the control freak way things are being handled now is totally unacceptable. I suspect Chrome will support Windows 10 for as long as Micro$lop provides Windows 10 LTSC support. But, still... it's the nefarious intent and inappropriate collusion going on that is so despicable. I am further preparing myself for a departure from Windoze. I now have Linux as the primary OS on both desktops with Windows for work available in a virtual machine. There are applications I must use daily for work that do not run on Linux. (Yes they are Micro$loft applications, LOL.) I can launch the virtual machine when I need to use them.

That survey is only accurate to the extent it counts only those that respond to the survey when installing Steam for the first time and when it randomly appears. It does not reflect an accurate percentage of all Steam users because Steam is respectful and does not harvest that information without user permission. I always decline to participate when I am prompted. In other words, it is an accurate reflection of survey respondents, not all Steam users. In addition to the available PSU headroom, when @tps3443 is finished with the torturing of his GPU for entertainment purposes the normal use scenario will not be anywhere near what Furmark is doing to it.

Even if the calculations are spot-on based on 2 x GPU driver reported power draw, it is useful to know how much total power your machine is pulling from the wall. It is usually surprising to see how all of the components, including fans, pumps, drives, RGB, etc. pile up into the total system from-grid power utilization. You can also spot (by just looking at the meter) when something is off if your idle and low use power consumption from the wall is suddenly higher than normal, which is helpful.

It might be terrifying when your wife gets the electric bill if you are doing a lot of that.

So, I finally got my hands on the latest VMWorkstation and VMTools and now have my Windoze VM set up in Linux.

That last one... "Celestial Spa" is so lifelike that identifying it as AI is difficult. Scary stuff.

Smoke and mirrors. Welcome to The Matrix. The fake news disinformation mills report what Xi Jinping wants the world to believe. They can't eat computer chips and smartphones. The news cartel is very good at putting lipstick on the pig. And, these are just the normies. Ask a Uyghur how things are going.

Well, we had a brain-dead zombie muppet in the oval office when that toothless ban was issued by a feckless shadow regime of wealth-stealing woke sicko commie traitors. That's why it never happened. Much bigger fish need to be fried with the open border and what-not. More important things need to take priority right now. That day will come soon enough and when it hits it will hit hard. China's destruction will be without mercy and irrecoverable.

Interesting... wonder how many people took Jay's advice? I bet a lot of people did. Misinformation is pretty common. Tom's Hardware published it, too.

I agree with you. Even with the rolling release options there's a lag in support for the newest hardware. Day one hardware and driver support needs to be a top priority. Unfortunately there's going to be some of the sheeple that value form over function. If their OS isn't loaded up with a bunch of disgusting eye candy and other gimmicky crap they won't embrace it. Just like the rainbow puke they adore so much even when the hardware they own is anemic and lackluster. It's ironic that an OS that has been popular among poor people and third-world countries will probably eventually end up being the only acceptable OS for the people that are not Kool-Aid drinking idiots.

3080 Turbo

The biggest problem with Linux is support for the latest hardware. Sometimes it take 6 months to a year for proper support. I think most Linux developers are not early adopters of new tech. And, until some of them buy new hardware get the kernel updated and drivers working using Linux is not an option no matter how much you want it to be. I have had the most difficult time imaginable installing Linux on the X870E platform. It seems like none of the Linux developers have AMD's most current platform and haven't given it enough effort. When I started web searching I discovered I was not alone. Most distros are broken and installation fails at the point of installing the boatloader. I even removed all other OS drives thinking maybe Micro$lop was interfering by blocking access to the EFI partition, but that was not it. I tried numerous Arch, Ubuntu and Debian derivatives and all ended with the same error. But, I did not give up and I finally got Zorin installed after 2 days of farting around with more than a dozen failed attempts on both the ASUS and Gigabyte mobos. I tried GRUB, systemd and rEFInd bootloaders on each distro and tried different SSDs. All failed during the installation of the boatloader. Very weird. I guess that is one of the compromises when stuff is free. I'm using a USB ethernet adapter because the onboard NIC and WiFi are not supported. I can't identify why it finally worked and it was not the first try with Zorin. Supposedly kernel 6.15 supports the networking, but I tried updating to the latest kernel and it breaks the NVIDIA drivers. It seems there are no NVIDIA compatible headers for 6.15.

So, I have had the most difficult time imaginable installing Linux on the X870E platform. It seems like none of the Linux developers have AMD's most current platform and haven't given it enough effort. Most distros are broken and installation fails at the point of installing the boatloader. I even removed all other OS drives thinking maybe Micro$lop was interfering by blocking access to the EFI partition, but that was not it. I tried numerous Arch, Ubuntu and Debian derivatives and all ended with the same error. I finally got Zorin installed after 2 days of farting around with failures on both the ASUS and Gigabyte mobos. I tried GRUB, systemd and rEFInd bootloaders on each distro and tried different SSDs. All failed during the installing the boatloader. Very weird. I guess that is one of the compromises when stuff is free. I'm using a USB ethernet adapter because the onboard NIC and WiFi are not supported.

Happy July 4th. Passage of the Big, Beautiful Bill will make this the best one I can remember and definitely reason for celebration of American Independence.

Running with -75mV and default power limits I still see 90+ on temps running benchmarks or playing games. I've stopped using mine until I can buy a waterblock for it. If they are overpriced then I will probably sell it. It blows more hot air than I would like and the temps are much higher than I want them to be.

Hey bro. Hope all is well. I do not know if anyone in this thread is an AMD-powered laptop user. There might be one.

Well that's surprising. Get some. I have 5 of them. Be sure to get one with a backlight that stays turned on all the time. The Kill-A-Watt brand sucks because it has no backlight. There are some with a backlight that only turns on temporarily when you press a button. Those suck for the same reason. If you want to get really fancy you can program the cost per kW/h to project the cost of operation, but I don't waste my time with nonsense like that. These are my favorite. Big letters and very clean and legible from across the room, with a backlight that never turns off. It also has an internal battery and remembers what you set it to. No need to reapply all of your settings any time the power goes out or you move it to a new outlet. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09BQNYMMM?ref_=ppx_hzsearch_conn_dt_b_fed_asin_title_1&th=1 Prices are a little bit less retarded now. Still unacceptable and hard for me to rationalize a legitmate basis for buying one. If the least expensive models drop below $2000 I may consider buying one. I won't buy a 5090 unless the price is the same or less than what I paid for the Gigabyte 4090 that I sold. Not worth it IMHO. I'm not really benching much anymore and I don't care about having more game FPS than I already have. I find so little free time to devote to gaming that there isn't much incentive to buy one at such over-the-top idiotic prices. Anything less than 5090 that the Green Goblin has to offer is of no interest to me. I might consider the frivolous purchase of a 5080 at 9070 XT pricing. Otherwise, no... the juice isn't worth the squeeze and I'd feel like I was volunteering to get screwed.

Memory latency... AMD > Intel... "Oh how the mighty have fallen..." Until Core Ultra screwed everything up AMD was the suckiest at memory latency. Chiplets/tiles/CCDs suck. The fabric needed to cobble the mess together adds a layer of undesirable crappiness. First AMD then Intel. Monkey see, monkey do.

Yes, it is in my AORUS Master build. It is my best GPU. 4090 Suprim with Core GPU block.

I just watched this video this morning on the same subject. Now they just need to figure out thermals.

Do I smell smoke?

Thanks. That looks very promising. I asked if his was an Alphacool. Would be interesting if Bykski is offering them for a lower price.