Mr. Fox

Nope. I hate it when one AIB partner does something stupid/different than the rest with things like ports. The standard is 3 DP and 1 HDMI and they should all stick to that. I use all three of my DP ports so that would screw things up. In the past I have tried to use both types of ports in a multi-display setup and the color and brightness never matches 100%.

That would be worth looking into, for sure. So, wasn't really looking for it, but I snagged a brand new in-box (very rough box, LOL) Lian Li O11 Dynamic XL for $77 yesterday from a local online auction that sells items with damaged packaging or minor blemishes. I picked it up from their warehouse a few miles up the road after work yesterday. I have no use for it, but it was too cheap to ignore at that price. Now I need to decided if I want to keep it or sell it for a profit. It's white, which isn't my favorite, but it would look nice with the Z790 Apex inside of it.

Oh wow, I wonder when those were released? I never would have sold my beloved Kingpin card had those been available at the time I sold it. 💔 After my last block cleaning and repaste that was timed strategically with the sale, that was the primary driver. I intended for it to be the last time and felt compelled to sell it before a problem developed with a leaking waterblock. I didn't want an unserviceable paperweight, or be put in the position of having to use the stock AIO. It is a major bummer that those were not available, or I didn't know about them. I would have purchased the Bykski block to replace the Hydro Copper block the moment I spotted it. 💔

Yeah, the oils from that full cover pad are crazy. The last time I cleaned and repasted the 3090 KPE I was able to get it completely clean and then cleaned all of the excess oil from the pad using 91% iso. I think it took like 10 or 12 ounces and repeated applications and scrubbing with a toothbrush to get the card clean. It was a real pain in the butt. Much more difficult than K5 Pro removal, which is enough of a pain. If you want a Galax HOF 4090 for about $800-$1000 more than a Suprim X you can grab one from Galax's web store. As idiotic as the price is, it is still much cheaper and WAY BETTER than a ASSUS Matrix joke GPU. https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805483024002.html Or, you can waste a couple grand less on a Red Devil space heater. Mr. Potty mouth couldn't even fix his with liquid metal. Seem like it is defectively engineered. Totally unacceptable thermals. He claims he "fixed it" and did make it better, but 96°C hotspot in a Fire Strike stress test is still just garbage. The name is fitting, though... runs as hot as hell, LOL. Yeah, K5 Pro is super messy, but works very well in place of pads. I put it inside of a big syringe and use that to apply it to keep the mess under control. It makes application very neat and easy. I still have quite a bit in a syringe that hasn't been used up. I will probably use that on the Precision turdbook the next time I have it apart. The CPU is running way too hot with KPX on it.

That could be the best way in your situation and I've done it many times before as well. No need to remove the internal storage. Install on another computer, make a Macrium Reflect image of it on USB, then restore it on the system where you want it. Easy peasy.

Can you install from internal CD/DVD and PS/2 keyboard and mouse? That is how I did it with Z490 and Z690. I gave up on trying to integrate USB 3.X drivers.

The block looks great. Maybe even better than new with the sanding grain. Ray tracing totally kills AMD GPUs prior to 7900 XT/XTX. RDNA2 can't handle it well at all. I'm sure somebody is going to want to get screwed over and pay $500 more than the normal and already ludicrous 4090 price to have that red green card. Don't know why they would, but there's no doubt in my mind. There is never a shortage on dumb.

The 6900XT doesn't fare any better than 3090. With Path Tracing enabled it is a slide show at 1440p. With Path Tracing disabled, the FPS is OK but it is still a stuttery mess with Ray Tracing.

Well, we live in a different time and a different world now. They should have responded immediately (like within a day or less) but that assumes that they actually care about being a good moderator, or care about you as a member of the community. Chances are good neither of those things are true and they decided to ban you because your posts went against the narrative they wanted and they didn't care that you had not technically broken any rules. That is the way of the screwed up world we live in and cancel culture cancer has spread beyond the political realm to become a common way people deal with personal hang-ups and differences of opinion in matters that are trite, trivial and generally unimportant. Sad to say, but if you haven't heard anything by now they will likely continue to ignore you because they don't care and they're not good moderators. If they are brand fanboys they used the ban as an excuse to silence a detractor.

Does it actually say "Balanced" anywhere? Or, does the performance equate to setting it manually to "Balanced" mode? I can't tell by any other means on my end. I only see "Auto" on my system and that is all that shows in our screenshots.

If it is truly "Auto" and works as one would expect, it should select based on the capabilities of the GPU and not aribitrarily default to Balanced or Peformance. One way of determining that is to see if your FPS with 3090 is similar to 4090 using Auto. If it is, then it is probably working correctly, meaning it chose a less aggressive configuration for 3090 to allow it to maintain nice performance. Same would be true for say a 3060, 3070 or 3080 if "Auto" is working the way I would expect it to. If it did not then I would say that the feature is broken and manual settings would be needed. Maybe "Balanced" accomplishes the same thing as "Auto" and the outcome resembles the capabilities of the GPU. That could explain why my performance with 4090 resembles the "Quality" setting. The FPS is high enough that it can run at higher settings, whereas an older or less performant GPU could not.

Quality is the preset default. @tps3443 Edit: actually, that is not correct. I double-checked to confirm. Auto just shows "Auto" but based on the FPS it appears to be quality. I don't know how to tell other than that. If I set it to Quality, the preset changes to "Custom" but the FPS performance is the same as "Auto" default.

Even the 13900KS was drawing 450W on my system. That's with warm water, too. The PC has been running for 3 days in a hot office and no chiller running. 100% CPU utilization and 99% GPU utilization. This is using the 1000W beta ASUS vBIOS that wasn't supposed to ever be released to the public (no overcurrent protection, etc.). It works best for me. The stock MSI Suprim vBIOS works better than the Galax HOF 666W vBIOS for me, but this one works best of the three.

Here is with Ultra preset, no DLSS or ray reconstruction. Ultra enables FSR by default. Test with DRS and without. Power draw is notably less with no ray tracing or ray reconstruction. Ultra (FSR) with DRS enabled and 100% scaling to (4K) max resolution. Yes, I corrected that and everything worked. Thank you for mentioning it in case it had not occurred to me. I was using what seems to be the best benching driver rather than the latest driver.

User error. Had to install the latest driver cancer, LOL. What did you do? I need to get my chiller to run colder. Not running the chiller right now and my water is around 32°-34°C. Yeah, power draw is crazy, especially using DLSS Quality and frame regeneration turned off. You need to update to patch 2.0 to see the full effect. That's also using patch 1.63 which does not have the new feature. Patch 2.0 with Ray Reconstruction will load it even more. Patch 2.0 introduces considerably more eye candy overhead. This would be unplayable with a mid-range GPU unless you really dumbed things down. This is how much higher FPS is with patch 1.63.

Updated - I cannot get Ray Reconstruction to turn on for some reason.

It's better to watch your enemy drown rather than letting them pull you under to drown with them as you are trying to rescue them. They can't and shouldn't be rescued because their incurable stupidity is contagious.

Yeah, I just hate reddit. The place is crawling alive with leftist idiots like maggots on a dead deer carcass rotting in the woods. Rivaled only by Facebook, TikTok and Twitter as the largest gatherings of stupid people the world has ever seen. Better to disassociate yourself with such a scummy place and scummy people. I recommend that all smart people stay far away from such stupidity clusters. Otherwise, you're going to get their poop on your shoes and then it'll get tracked onto your carpet.

Running that fan at 75% is going to be pretty darned noisey. I think the problem with ASUS fan curves is they don't actually take different fans speeds into account. I think they just make some assumptions and assign an arbitrary percentage based on temperature. So, a 3,000 RPM fans is going to produce totally different results than an 1800 RPM fan at the same percentage. That's really dumb, but not entirely surprising considering the source. On the SSD issue, it is very possible that the airflow is blocked based on the location. Have you checked SSD temperatures without any heat sink just for giggles?

I misunderstood and didn't read the link close enough. For some reason I thought it was 6800XT firmware, so my bad. But, that Red Devil Liquid 6900XT vBIOS you posted has a lower power limit (watts and amps) than my stock OC Formula vBIOS, so the performance would likely be less. As far as I can tell, the OC Formula has the highest power limits of all of the 6900XT, so there is no path to upgrade the firmware that I am aware of.

I did not know that because I would have no reason to be aware. I suspect you are aware of many things that I am not aware of because of all of the older cards you are benching. You probably run into a lot of things that would not be known to me because I do not do that. But, 6900 XT is not that old. There are some things I really like about it and think are fantastic, but other things that are disappointing. Overall, I am not a fan of AMD products. One step forward, two steps backward. I am a bit disappointed to hear than Intel is planning X3D chips for "gaming CPUs" and multi-chip CPUs. All I can say is I hope they do a better job of it. I hate that about AMD, so will have to see if I hate the same if Intel does it. I am expecting to be disappointed. The new trend in PC tech is to make something that sucks and pretend that it doesn't. Like the guy on YouTube says "time will tell" 💤🥱.

I would also look into what kind of specs it has in terms of power, memory and voltage phases. Not all GPUs are created equal. Nothing in this list for Inno3D but some others for comparison like Suprim, Strix and Zotac AIRO (all good build quality). https://linustechtips.com/topic/1461611-rtx-4090-vrm-meta-analysis-and-feaib-comparison/ Some of the 4090 have very poor build quality and cost the same as better cards. I do not know much about Inno3D so I can't say. No such specs are provided on the manufacturer web site (red flag? - maybe). https://www.inno3d.com/en/PRODUCT_INNO3D_GEFORCE_RTX_4090_ICHILL_FROSTBITE Cross-flashing 6900XT vBIOS to 6800XT will brick the GPU and can only correct the brick with SPI flash. The problem with RDNA2 is they are all over the board with undocumented or random specs, too. XT, XTX, XTXH and you can buy two of the same SKU and get a totally different product. Some are decent and some are garbage.

I have seen lots of amazing deals on the groovesland site but I am scared they are a scammer site. I can't find anything reliable to validate they are legit. Have you found any way of validating they are legit?

Since MSI Afterburner is working correctly now I am not going to disturb anything. I don't need GPU Tweak III if Afterburner is working and I don't want to have it stop working if I mess with it. AMD stuff is kind of persnickety with some things. If ain't broke don't fit it, LOL. But, I have 4 more Windows installations to test this with older versions of GPU Tweak to see if the newest version is the issue.