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  1. electrosoft
    I was thinking of doing the same thing of downsizing my 32" 4k 60hz to a 32" 144hhz+ 1440p display. Reviews show the MSI 32" version of the QD as one of the best not only for color reproduction but general performance. I love my BenQ 32" 4k for its color reproduction but as a gaming display it is lacking and I'm starting to notice recently. Plus 1440p would really help to up the fps.
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    This is slowly rolling out, but I could see working with something like this:
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    I haven't seen him on these forums but I know I saw him briefly on one of the others before they shut down. I think he also posted on the notebook forums reddit thread/site/thingy.
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    5.2 @ ~200w....nice!
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    I saw @Sydneyblue sold his X170KM-G. How is your unit holding up @solidus1983 after the board replacement?
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    AIO / Water cooled 3090ti's are starting to show up with pricing. Queues have been opened since launch day but this is the first (of three) EVGA 3090ti's to have a price. Same price as the top end air cooled 3090ti FTW3. Maybe the KPE 3090ti will come in a touch cheaper ($2399?) since the market is contracting towards normalcy (relatively speaking). Even the Asus LC 3090ti is "only" $2199.99
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    That is a very above average 10850k. It either slipped past Intel QC or they needed more 10850k's than 10900k's and purposely dipped into the 10900k pool.
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    Congrats on the scoop! Looking forward to seeing your results too especially with a 12600 vs @win32asmguy's 12900 to establish some baselines. On a 15" chassis 1080p would be my go to but my eyes aren't as good as they used to be. The warping issue is mainly for waterblocks and poor back plates. On my desktop I run an Arctic Cool LF II 420 and the socket 1700 kit is a strong, metal back plate. I've been running it for 5-6 months now and when I swapped in a 12900ks to test last week everything was even and straight. With this laptop Heatsink you will get nowhere near the tension of a desktop board so warping won't be an issue. Always a good strategy to get the cheapest, decent CPU offered and select/bin yourself. My plan, if this works out, is to ride my "cool hand luke" 12900k to RPL and then upgrade to it or AMD's new CPUs and slide this puppy into an X15 or similar at that time.
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    This is exactly why I was not happy with HWU not including DDR4-3800 for the 12900k in their 5800X3D but included DDR4 for the 5800X3D. Intel scales very well with DDR4 and DDR5 in performance while the 5800X3D barely scales at all in some games. WoW is one of those examples. If every system is running low end, sloppy memory timings, the 5800X3D with that V-cache just powers through. Once you start tweaking and tightening up your memory, the 12900k climbs in leaps and bounds as well as the other CPUs (including the 5800x). From worst config (3200) to absolutely pushed (3670, Bclk OC), the 5800X3D gains *1* fps. On the other hand, the 12900k goes from 168fps to 217fps. Still, the 5800X3D is a fantastic last hurrah for AM but shows that cache is hit or miss and compared to the 5800x which managed to gain 23fps (140->163fps). For the 5800X3D everything is just sitting in that cache, memory be damned. We're also getting yet another glimpse into the future scaling of DDR5. 1080p slop memory all around: Tighten up timings. push frequency: Every chip tight and max frequency / config push:
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    Hilarious. I had commented on a Mac coder's YT channel I watch a week or so back who compared compile times of his Mac Studio Ultra (M1 Ultra chip) vs the 12900kf and the M1 won handily but looking at his video closely I saw his 12900kf was throttling down to 3.43ghz under load and said it was Dell/Alienware that was to blame because of their shoddy design (had a few M1 users try to defend the results). I just went and added a reply pointing to this video:
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    I did and I agree with you 100% but there is no logical reason to raise temp caps in my setup. It will just heat up higher and pull more power and either throttle at a different point or crash. If I can't keep it under 100c, I won't keep it under 115c with the resulting scaling in heat and pull. If the objective is to pull even more (heat:power curve) for demonstration sure but outside of that? My golden rule is 100c cap (or lower even depending on purpose) because at that point I need to address my cooling, delid my chip , adjust my expectations based on silicon or all of thee above. As for my previous 12900ks vs 12900k, setting 100c as the default cap, conditions being equal, you can see both chips bouncing off of the threshold and still see the 12900ks is superior not just in Vcore (1.421 vs. 1.465) but as a result in score as the 12900k bounces off of it much more frequently than the 12900ks. Based on early data of dying AMD processors and AMD curtailing their boost options from 500mhz to 200mhz along with PBO overall I agree with your speculation. Whew, that is a beefy, impressive run on the 12900ks.
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    After binning, tweaking, some further heatsink mods and of course Prema it stays absolutely near quiet low fans unless under meaningful load then the fans finally come alive. Surfing and such it stays even and near silent. I will say binning some 10900k's made a marked difference in Vcore, pull and temps at stock and with the same uv applied (-90). This 12900k I have pulls less than all of those 10900k's at stock (208w) and with an undervolt it pulls ~162w on average running CB23. Compared to the worse 12900k I tested that would bork on any UV and needed ~252w to pass stock. When I was binning several 12900k's it stood out from the other ones quickly in its pull and temps. Good 12900k: Bad 12900k:
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    So glad Max @ Hardware Numb3rs is back in action. DDR4 vs DDR5 in WoW. He's going to test the 5800X3D next in WoW:
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    Wow, the package drop is insane with that temp difference. I didn't know it was that extreme. Amazing. The jump to 385w from 5.4 -> 5.5 was at 14c too? ~100c is where I end my playtime adventures but you're right.
  16. electrosoft
    Ended up selling the SP94 12900ks to my bud with the SP84 12900ks. I don't even know I didn't connect the dots but I mentioned to him earlier I was going to either return it or sell it amongst a close knit group of us and he immediately wanted it. Since I drove to PA to see him the other day, he hot tailed it down here to scoop up the SP94 and we returned his SP84 to the local Best Buy and grabbed lunch. The CS we know even smirked and said, "Returning it?" Me? "Nope, he's returning his!" 😆 Picked up an iPad Mini 6 for the wife while I was there to replace her aging iPad Mini 4 with only 16GB which had rendered it near unusable and slow as molasses but it gave her almost 5yrs of service. All is well that ends well.
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    In his own way, Jufes @ Frame Chasers is really growing on me.... It is the type of content I like to watch.
  18. electrosoft
    What does it pull @ 5.4? Trying to see when (or if) it falls off the rails. My 12900ks pulled ~334w And in the shocker of them all, got my SP91 12900k to run 5.4 all core and it pulled ~330w (!). Both thermal throttling of course.... 12900ks SP94 "falls of the rails" at 5.4 and is basically equal to my 12900k SP91 with regard to pull and temps. 12900ks had 4 cores throttling vs 2 on the 12900k but the 12900k kept touching the sun more frequent with those two cores though on those (hence the lower CB23). 12900k needed 1.465 under load vs the 12900k 1.421 (pure Auto) 12900ks: 12900k SP91:
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    Seeing as how they created their own, proprietary GPUs and have soldered on key components down to the wifi, this is not shocking at all. How hard is it to leave a Win10 Taskbar mode option? I greatly despise the new Taskbar.
  20. electrosoft
    I'm glad you took the plunge. I know the X170KM-G didn't really pan out like you expected. Looking forward to a complete breakdown and analysis. If it is using the Insyder BIOS (which looking at screen shots it does), then it should have access to at a minimum thermal manipulation (Uv, PL, etc...) and most likely underclocking. I would be curious to see how a k class chip works in there with XTU and TS vs the silicon level locked down 12900. I don't worry too much about gsync these days so that's no loss.
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    I'll gladly relieve you of your Asrock OC Formula 6900xt for it. 😁 This. Many 12900k/s chips that won't hit 5.4 or 5.5 suddenly hit them with a delid and/or a CL. Throw a chiller in there and temps and pull drop accordingly.
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    Exactly. It happens to be an exceptionally cooler running, less hungry 12900k that only >=5.2 does the 12900ks show why it is a good binned 12900ks. Still, too rich for my blood since I'll never delid or WC it this time around. So back it goes to Best Buy. If anyone is interested in it since it is a pretty decent SP94, my exact price paid was 831.66 ($779.99 + tax). So $855 shipped non-cc CONUS. I'll be returning it Monday if no one wants it. In other words, it's out of here Monday one way or the other.
  23. electrosoft
    Asus BIOS. Leave MCE enabled (Do not turn on AI OC BIOS control) Turn on AI Optimizations for P cores (E cores will auto enable) Go under TVB enable +1 (or +2 if your system can handle it) enable both other options save and restart.
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    Clock for clock, the SP91 12900k draws much less than the 12900ks at 4.9 and 5.0. 5.1 they're close. 5.2 is where the 12900ks pulls ahead and stays WAY ahead at 5.3. 12900k can boost to 5.5 on a few cores. 12900ks boosts to 5.7 on three cores. 12900k can do 5.3 all core but 5.4 is a bust. I'm going to go back in and push LLC7 just to see. 12900ks can do 5.4 all core and prolly 5.5 but the thermals. A delid and a CL would have it singing.
  25. electrosoft
    Uninstalled the 12900ks SP94 and boxed it back up. My frugality has kicked in hardcore. Popped the 12900k SP91 back in under 1403. Letting Asus AI Optimizations do its thing with the SP91 12900k (I giggled at the reported 75% overclock):
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