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Bro that is awesome, congrats! ❤️

Whoa..... never saw that coming! But I kind of like it because they're not really established in the premier/OC space at all and he wouldn't have to fight the culture change to his vision at say Asus or MSI. "K|NGPYN" - I can see it now. 🙂 And if he is with PNY, my 5090 will be a PNY too.

Oh AMD.....why? *Downloads Party Animals* 🤣

This is the XFX variant and non reference design (3x 8 pin power connectors). This is a custom Merc card. Until he checks all the non reference designs for the same mask....well.......there you go. 🙂 I would be curious to see him check cards like the Nitro+ and Taichi for their mask designs. Also that crack on the PCB, yikes!

This is the way brother. 🙂 After the wife getting her own PC during the pandemic, building the secondary PC for my daughter to use and having my workbench case always at the ready for testing, I can't see not having multiple PCs going at all times now and all really at the ready test beds where gear and equipment will sometimes filter down. I love comparing myself along with reading everybody else's results. I always test bone stock everything and then start to tweak and OC while testing along the way to get a clear picture....oh and it's fun!

EVGA X670E Classified ES board....*sigh* what could have been before they basically abandoned their entire MB and GPU divisions.... 😞 https://www.overclock.net/threads/evga-x670e-classified.1811115/

Tuned 12th beat down 5800X3D. 7800X3D trumps stock 13th/14th gen Tuned 13th/14th gen can go toe to toe with tuned 7800X3D depending on games "Gear 4" on 7000 is basically a bandwidth e-peen contest at this point with no, real tangible gains on the level of Intel in the same boat. After testing those sweet 8000 sticks I bought from @Raiderman for a month I sold them as they really didn't do much in regards to tangible performance uplift in real world usage for my case usage. After testing both side by side for over a month (during and after I got my MSI X670E Carbon back from MSI for RMA), I was perfectly fine with either. Only thing was Intel sucked down a lot more power to achieve competitive results. Seeing as 9000 series as is won't beat the 7800X3D (Unlike 7000 vs 5000 where the 7600x is basically on par with the 5800X3D), I'll wait for Arrow Lake and the X3D parts to drop and hold steady while @Raiderman and @jaybee83 snatch up 9950X3D's to give us some up close and personal results especially as @Raiderman plans to uograde to an X870e Taichi along with it so I'm looking forward to those results. If down the road I end up getting a 9950X3D, I'm going to move my 7950X3D into my daughter's rig or upgrade the wife's 12900k rig. 🙂 That's exactly what I do. I go into the BIOS and turn off the non X3D chiplet when testing for gaming and sometimes for gaming outright because even with PL and GB, WoW will still drift onto the non-X3D cores and in raids and PvP, that induces an immediate lag spike/stutter. There is a part of WoW where you fly through a cavern and with both CCDs enabled, it stutters and lags at the very same spot. Enable only the X3D chiplet and there is no lag/stutter in that spot. I would very much like to see a 9950X3D with 3D cache on both CCDs as the rumors are saying AMD is bringing many refinements and enhancements to the X3D process this time around versus the "slapping it on" with the 5000 and 7000 series..... .....of course AMD also lead us to believe the 7900XTX was going to have double the count of CUs versus actually only having double the count of FP so we will see (I'm still salty about that lol)

Absolutely on the Taichi. I still find myself dropping it in my buy basket on newegg. If I didn't snag this Powercolor 7900xtx for $720 shipped complete when all was said and done, I would have grabbed one by now. I'm still thinking of selling the Powercolor and grabbing the Asrock Taichi 7900xtx white edition. 🙂 Looking forward to seeing some magic brother @Raiderman !

Well.....damn....... 🙂 If I did pick one up I'd probably move my 7950X3D into my daughter's system and replace her 7600x or upgrade my wife's 12900k to the 7950X3D. The "smart" move is to hold off and wait for Intel's new chips for comparison but I might "accidentally" click the order button....who knows? 🙈🙉🙊

You're very lucky. Luckily along that variable ~1.8v-6.6v range it settled somewhat in the proper range and you didn't torch it. I always keep one of these around for 1.8v programming:

Absolutely. I am a very big proponent of let others test version 1.0 aka beta testers. 🤣

There are pros and cons to new form factors but I like the idea of all cabling in the back and as long as Camm modules can hit higher frequencies (as has already been displayed) then I like the flatter, nicer look too. I'm all for innovation and pushing the industry forward in all aspects. 🙂 I fully embrace function AND form.

Nvidia is selling to the AI sector hand over fist and their orders are backed up for months if not years. They can take their foot off the gas a bit and really extend and clear out the 4000 series till 2025 easily. It gives consumers some breathing room too. With market conditions as they are in the consumer sector, Nvidia dominating all over the place and AMD basically giving up this time around it does make sense. Only scenario I could possibly (even if ever so slight) see Nvidia launching the 5090 only as by reports it will be the card that has true separation from the 4000 series including the 4090. The 5080 is rumored to be weaker than the 4090 or at best on par which would be a bummer. Everything then devolves into a cross-over crapfest between 4000 and 5000 on a level as bad if not worse than 3000 and 4000. Launch 5000 level AI, Launch halo 5090, keep things the same below it for 4-6 months if not longer since there is zero competition to fully extract maximum value from Ada. Wait for AMD and Intel to fire their salvos. Respond with destructive glee as always.... Speculation of the highest tier of course....(channeling my inner @johnksss 🤣)

Looks like NO GPUs this year potentially from all three which does kind of make sense especially if AMD and Intel are not bringing anything to market this year there is zero reason for Nvidia to release the 5000 series this year. Still in the rumor stage so we will see. https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-nvidia-and-intel-next-gen-gpus-most-likely-arriving-in-2025

Nvidia domination is absolutely scary but when you truly have the superior overall product stack what else can you do? I have all types of love for AMD and I'm a big fan of their GPUs and especially their CPUs but Nvidia is just dominant to the point AMD not only admitted their 7900xtx was competing against the 4080 not 4090 but next gen is a slight regression while they try to right their proverbial ship and get ready to compete the next gen after. We won't even see AMDs mid tier cards now till 2025 according to reports along with Intel. Nvidia has just steadily (with dips here and there) continued to suck up market share with their products and AMD is definitely on the downturn after that bright moment of the 6000 series briefly touching the sun and on par with the 3090/3090ti in pure raster. Nvidia then just pursed their lips and put the boot on AMD's neck with 4000 and said, "it's showtime." I'm enjoying playing around with this 7900xtx and it packs a good punch in pockets and can even compete in moments, but the 4090 is just a juggernaut and the 4080 Super made it really hard to pick a 7900xtx when all is said and done. https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-aib-shipments-reach-88-of-market-share-highest-in-two-decades

@Raiderman newest Adrenalin drivers from AMD blasted my 7600x fsb OC into the stars. All I get is artifacts at 2200 now. If I roll back to the older drivers everything works. I can disable the integrated graphics and just use the 7900xtx, but whatever tightening there is in the newest, integrated at 2200 is a no go. Newest are a must as they finally fixed WoW and with RT off, performance is actually pretty good! Looking forward to running some new benchmark runs to finish collecting baseline data before the 7600x/7900xtx OC commences.

I loved my Alienware mALX! I took it with me in 2008 when we went to Florida for vacation and Tropical Storm (nee Hurricane) Fay hit while we were down there. We camped out in our condo room and I leveled a priest from 1 to 40 in EQ II on that AMD behemoth. 🙂 Fun story, about half way to 40, my mALX wouldn't boot due to a bad memory module. We traveled in the torrential rain to the Best Buy about 15 miles away to buy a set of new memory to swap in for the remainder of vacation. 🤣 I would love the return of an 18"+ display full DTR monster.

Looking forward to you're results and so glad you brought it back from the dead bro. 🙂 I really like the color selection and look on that Asus card! I'll have to see if I can get the steam gift card too. That would really make it a super deal, thanks for the heads up bro. 🙂

Welcome to the Jungle.... .....We have fun and games. 🙂

Absolutely agree. This is what John J User would most likely get out of the box. Down the road, I'll end up swapping the 7600x into my main rig along with the 7900xtx along with swapping my 7950X3D into the Team Red build for comparisons. I always set baselines of a typical setup/user (well, maybe this is a little tweaked on the memory but that's it at this point) before I start to dial in the PBO and push the GPU for benching and run a stripped down W11. Just like my 4090 score was pure stock (except, again memory tuning). I had to click everything back off, dial everything back down and load up my "just_memOC" profile in BIOS for that stock run. I'm just happy to see WoW is finally working as intended now. I'll end up retesting flight runs in my main rig with the 4090 vs 7900xtx to gather a new set of data.

Just tested WoW on the Team RED build and the rumors are true. WoW now is back to 100% working after AMD's last driver update. RT still sucks as always and works better off. Still hilarious that 15 months ago, nothing had changed with the WoW code base. AMD releases a new set of drivers and suddenly 7000 owners were having all types of problems. They kept pointing fingers at Blizzard and now finally over a year later their newest set of drivers fixes all the DX12 issues. Reminds me of Nvidia when Shadowlands dropped and for months everything worked great till the CP2077 drivers dropped and suddenly there was flickering all over the place in certain regions. Go back to older drivers, no problem. New drivers? Flickering. It took them a year to fix it but somehow it was Blizzard's fault...... I also ran Steel Nomad total stock on everything w/ DX12 @Raiderman. 7900xtx not exactly setting the world on fire here but still scores 30k+ in Timespy GPU Steel Nomad:

@Raiderman X870E Taichi looks pretty righteous. I just wish they offered it in a 2-dimmer model Even the Taichi Lite non RGB with less beefy heatsinks looks really nice:

Yeah I was wondering if a forum member ended up with it. You also have to realize once kitted out with good hardware, the cost will shoot to over $1000 quickly total cost so that always comes into play.

So true. 🙂 One thing I like is the only "new" component in the entire system is the case. Everything else was picked up used and/or open box. I ended up saving over $600 slowly amassing the pieces of choice and finally putting it all together.

Heading down the home stretch with my daughter's Team AMD system with the P2 850w passing everything I could throw at it. Cablemod cables are handling everything so far. Had to chuck an aRGB hub that wasn't working properly. Another on the way back because the pictures said and showed full PWM control but the fan lead only had two wires and zero control. I'll install and run Steel Nomad later. Rumor has it the last driver update fixed WoW and suddenly DX12 works even though AMD was saying it wasn't on them but Blizzard so we shall see. Top fans aren't aRGB and won't be even if/when I swap out the 2x Arctic PL12's with white versions. It has enough RGB as is lol. Case is so white it makes the white edition shroud on the Powercolor 7900xtx look off white. Hyte Y40 mdie tuned 2x16GB w/ custom heatsink/aRGB covers Asus Prime B650 AMD 7600x Asus Ryujin III 240mm AIO Powercolor 7900xtx Spectral White Edition Samsung 980 Pro 1TB EVGA P2 850w PSU Cablemod Custom Red and White Cables