*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[electrosoft]

12 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

Do you have any personal experience with OLED’s? I have never owned one besides my smartphones. I would prefer Mini LED. But I actually got the Aorus 48 for $550, so I could not pass it up! 

 

For $550 I would chance it. That's a great price.

 

You are going to see that 3090 hit a nice wall in the best way. 🙂

 

I killed two OLED displays just with a PS4 and Xfinity menu with burn in.

[Etern4l]

30 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

I killed two OLED displays just with a PS4 and Xfinity menu with burn in.

 

Wow, that's quite unfortunate. Literally first time I've seen anyone one NBR/NBT report OLED issues, going back to Alienware 13 OLED. What displays were those?

Zero issues with my LG OLED TV after 3.5 years, minimal gaming, but lots of YT, Spotify and TV with static logos.

[tps3443]

This is probably the best deal in gaming monitors today for under $500.

 

Mini-LED 27” super bright, 576 dimming zones, great monitors. 
 

It’s fantastic to see Mini-LED reach mainstreamish price range.

 

https://www.newegg.com/p/3D4-007C-00010?Description=Mini LED 27”&cm_re=Mini_LED 27”-_-9SIBK6TJNR5469-_-Product

[Papusan]

4 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Yup, I agree. Either the stock 12VHPWR cable on an ATX 3.0 or use the icky ugly NVIDIA pigtail with 8-pin connectors is the safest approach. The part that bothers me is how inconsistent the outcomes are. As I mentioned before, even though I am no longer using the Cablemod parts, I had no issues with them. It seems apparent that many, maybe even the vast majority, are not having problems. Why it happens on some and not others is something I haven't seen a reliable answer for.

 

Seems like they (Cablemod) are still selling lots of products. I stopped using my right-angle adapter just to be safe, but even after all of the hard benching I did, nothing has ever shown any evidence of heat, melting, discoloration or anything else with the adapter or Cablemod cable itself, and nothing ever got hot to the touch. It's weird that this seems so random. If we had a definitive understanding of the cause, it might not be so mysterious. Everyone is just making assumptions and guessing, and Cablemod is the target because they have sold so many. We do not know the percentage of failure or the number of parts sold, we only know about the scary outcomes that get  lots of media attention. That makes it scarier and more uncomfortable, not to mention hard on Cablemod. Maybe it should be hard on them, or maybe it shouldn't. We don't know what we don't know, and I hate that.

4 hours ago, electrosoft said:

lol, my replacement cablemod cable is still sitting in its bag unused. I'm good for now....

What rubs me hard the wrong way.... I haven't seen many melted cables/adapters from the OEM or the pigtail cables from the 4090 package the last months (one or two cases I think the last 5 weeks). Remember etc CableMod have sold around 55.000 units. But 4090 more likely sold in the 300-500.000 cards now. And the nvidia 12VHPWR connectors is mostly soldered on all 4000 series cards. So well over 1 mill cards is already sold.

 

So see it this way... CableMods new modern adapers go into the whole stack of the different 4000 series cards. Not only for the 4090s. Many want them due design/and because they have small cute PC boxes (you can't even lock the chassis door due the space the 12VHPWR cable need). And be you sure.... If many of the OEM cables or the Nvidia pigtail mess melting/burn up... We would have seen it on etc Reddit. And you don't find them there only the CableMods adapters that melt up in fire and smoke. Yep, not everyone will tell about their burned up cards on forums/social media, but we should at least have seen some cases if it was a major problem also with the OEM cables/pigtail box adapters.

 

More of same messed up from todays tech world....

 

This is only rumors... Now its the xx90 cards turn to get the price hike the lower end SKUs got when they launced. 25% up for 10% higher performance. Of course Nvidia won't increase the prices for the other Super SKUs. They just price the top end SKU up $400. Then 8 months later we will get 5090, same as for the 3090Ti.

 

https://www.pcgamesn.com/nvidia/rtx-4000-super-leaked-specs

 

 

Edit. Forgot. Congrats with the new screen bro @tps3443 🙂

[Tenoroon]

1 hour ago, Papusan said:

More of same messed up from todays tech world....

 

This is only rumors... Now its the xx90 cards turn to get the price hike the lower end SKUs got when they launced. 25% up for 10% higher performance. Of course Nvidia won't increase the prices for the other Super SKUs. They just price the top end SKU up $400. Then 8 months later we will get 5090, same as for the 3090Ti.

 

https://www.pcgamesn.com/nvidia/rtx-4000-super-leaked-specs

 

 

Edit. Forgot. Congrats with the new screen bro @tps3443 🙂

Good 'ole Jensen, trying to force obsolescence of the 4060ti, most likely due to the abysmal sales. He doesn't even have the good in him to cut the price either, he's just giving the middle finger to the few people who purchased a 4060ti...

I think it would be dumb of ngreedia to make the 4070 Super with the 103 die. If the performance is to be believed, whats the point of spending more money on a bigger die if the performance is only going to be 5% higher than the Ti? I understand the 4070ti has almost the full 104 die unlocked, but its missing some cache. Surely by adding the remaining cache and clocking it a bit higher it would beat the 4070ti by about 5%. 

[tps3443]

2 hours ago, Papusan said:

What rubs me hard the wrong way.... I haven't seen many melted cables/adapters from the OEM or the pigtail cables from the 4090 package the last months (one or two cases I think the last 5 weeks). Remember etc CableMod have sold around 55.000 units. But 4090 more likely sold in the 300-500.000 cards now. And the nvidia 12VHPWR connectors is mostly soldered on all 4000 series cards. So well over 1 mill cards is already sold.

 

So see it this way... CableMods new modern adapers go into the whole stack of the different 4000 series cards. Not only for the 4090s. Many want them due design/and because they have small cute PC boxes (you can't even lock the chassis door due the space the 12VHPWR cable need). And be you sure.... If many of the OEM cables or the Nvidia pigtail mess melting/burn up... We would have seen it on etc Reddit. And you don't find them there only the CableMods adapters that melt up in fire and smoke. Yep, not everyone will tell about their burned up cards on forums/social media, but we should at least have seen some cases if it was a major problem also with the OEM cables/pigtail box adapters.

 

More of same messed up from todays tech world....

 

This is only rumors... Now its the xx90 cards turn to get the price hike the lower end SKUs got when they launced. 25% up for 10% higher performance. Of course Nvidia won't increase the prices for the other Super SKUs. They just price the top end SKU up $400. Then 8 months later we will get 5090, same as for the 3090Ti.

 

https://www.pcgamesn.com/nvidia/rtx-4000-super-leaked-specs

 

 

Edit. Forgot. Congrats with the new screen bro @tps3443 🙂

 

The 4080 Super looks good if it’s 20% faster for $1,199. The $1,999 4090 Super does not appeal for a 10% boost.  Wouldnt this make the 4080 Super only about 10% slower than a normal 4090? 
 

Future GPU competition looks amazing!!! I’m ready to see the competition from Intel and AMD. 

[Papusan]

1 hour ago, tps3443 said:

 

The 4080 Super looks good if it’s 20% faster for $1,199. The $1,999 4090 Super does not appeal for a 10% boost.  Wouldnt this make the 4080 Super only about 10% slower than a normal 4090? 
 

Future GPU competition looks amazing!!! I’m ready to see the competition from Intel and AMD. 

Yep, it looks like 4080 Super will get closer to 4090 performance (screw those 4090 buyers that paid +$400 in price premium). Looks like Nvidia prefer the Super branding over Ti. And 3080Ti vs 3090 performance was quite close. Hence they need the 4090 Super to be able to sell xx90 cards. In the end... Maybe the better custom 4090 Super AIC cards will land around 2300$. Some maybe even 2400$. 

 

Its amusing you have to pay 66% more for maybe 20% higher performance (4090 Super vs 4080 Super) so nothing new here.  Both SKUs got one price tier up from previous gen cards. The Super cards should never have existed and the new 4090 Super should have been branded Titan.

 

 

[tps3443]

56 minutes ago, Papusan said:

Yep, it looks like 4080 Super will get closer to 4090 performance (screw those 4090 buyers that paid +$400 in price premium). Looks like Nvidia prefer the Super branding over Ti. And 3080Ti vs 3090 performance was quite close. Hence they need the 4090 Super to be able to sell xx90 cards. In the end... Maybe the better custom 4090 Super AIC cards will land around 2300$. Some maybe even 2400$. 

 

Its amusing you have to pay 66% more for maybe 20% higher performance (4090 Super vs 4080 Super) so nothing new here.  Both SKUs got one price tier up from previous gen cards. The Super cards should never have existed and the new 4090 Super should have been branded Titan.

 

 

You know if the new 4090 was labeled as “Titan” it would literally be $3,000 dollars lol. The “Titan” moniker drags around some big balls behind it 🤣 lol. Even if they aren’t drastically faster than the gamer GTX/RTX variant that ran 3-5% slower (Or some performed even slower lol). The word “Tiiiiiiitannnnnnnnn” “Oooooooooo ahhhhhh” magicallllllllll

 

[electrosoft]

4 hours ago, Etern4l said:

 

Wow, that's quite unfortunate. Literally first time I've seen anyone one NBR/NBT report OLED issues, going back to Alienware 13 OLED. What displays were those?

Zero issues with my LG OLED TV after 3.5 years, minimal gaming, but lots of YT, Spotify and TV with static logos.

 

LG C7's. The original then the replacement. I am not cut out for OLEDs as I routinely leave static images on screen and/or pass out with them on the screen. Most visible lightly is the older Comcast grey box menu select screen predominantly on the bottom. I ended up switching to a Sony 65" 3-4 years ago. I will literally fall asleep on menu/desktop screens. It is my secret power.  Another problem was they started to dim and become slightly uneven too.

 

I know OLEDs have come a long way, but I'm good right now not using them. Maybe down the road when they have perfect a 100% no burn in model which they still have not.

 

You could always slap a static image on your display every night for 4-8 hours and leave it as is for weeks on end to see how it holds up while you sleep as a true acid test.

 

 

3 hours ago, Papusan said:

More of same messed up from todays tech world....

 

This is only rumors... Now its the xx90 cards turn to get the price hike the lower end SKUs got when they launced. 25% up for 10% higher performance. Of course Nvidia won't increase the prices for the other Super SKUs. They just price the top end SKU up $400. Then 8 months later we will get 5090, same as for the 3090Ti.

 

https://www.pcgamesn.com/nvidia/rtx-4000-super-leaked-specs

 

 

Edit. Forgot. Congrats with the new screen bro @tps3443 🙂

 

"However, according to leaks revealed by YouTuber Graphically Challenged"

 

Yeah, that's where you lost me a bit.....He makes MLID seem rock solid and that presenter's voice he uses drives me nuts. I used to follow him before.

 

 

 

 

 

[Tenoroon]

2 hours ago, electrosoft said:

"However, according to leaks revealed by YouTuber Graphically Challenged"

 

Yeah, that's where you lost me a bit.....He makes MLID seem rock solid and that presenter's voice he uses drives me nuts. I used to follow him before.

 

 

 

 

 

I should've looked over the article before posting. Yeah, not a big fan of Graphically Challenged either. MLID has gained my trust from being correct (mostly). He usually works pretty fast to leak before others and I think the fact he hasn't leaked any important Nvidia stuff yet says a lot about these other "leaks"...


I won't totally recant my statements made from above (especially the 4060ti portion, I don't think Nvidia can fill the hole that they've dug.) but I now am taking this information with a bigger grain of salt.

[Papusan]

56 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

 

LG C7's. The original then the replacement. I am not cut out for OLEDs as I routinely leave static images on screen and/or pass out with them on the screen. Most visible lightly is the older Comcast grey box menu select screen predominantly on the bottom. I ended up switching to a Sony 65" 3-4 years ago. I will literally fall asleep on menu/desktop screens. It is my secret power.  Another problem was they started to dim and become slightly uneven too.

 

I know OLEDs have come a long way, but I'm good right now not using them. Maybe down the road when they have perfect a 100% no burn in model which they still have not.

 

You could always slap a static image on your display every night for 4-8 hours and leave it as is for weeks on end to see how it holds up while you sleep as a true acid test.

 

 

 

"However, according to leaks revealed by YouTuber Graphically Challenged"

 

Yeah, that's where you lost me a bit.....He makes MLID seem rock solid and that presenter's voice he uses drives me nuts. I used to follow him before.

 

 

 

 

 

And what are your take on this?

 

Btw. Galxax seems to adjusting prices. But in Asia and not for the whole stack of cards. I wonder why they make the big change for the 4080 (-140$).

 

GALAX China reportedly lowers the price for select GeForce RTX GPUs, 4080 to be up to $140 cheaper

[electrosoft]

1 hour ago, Papusan said:

And what are your take on this?

 

Btw. Galxax seems to adjusting prices. But in Asia and not for the whole stack of cards. I wonder why they make the big change for the 4080 (-140$).

 

GALAX China reportedly lowers the price for select GeForce RTX GPUs, 4080 to be up to $140 cheaper

 

"GALAX is likely just following suit by adjusting prices to the same level as other vendors. "

 

They also adjusted the 4070, 3060 and 3050.

 

along with a glut as sales continue to be flat or worse. 4080 is the worse offender by far price wise of all of Nvidia's 4000 series compared to their 3000 series offerings.

 

Are the TI/Supers coming? Of course. For the 4090, it comes down to is it this year or next year (aka 3090ti time table).

 

 

 

 

[Papusan]

20 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

 

"GALAX is likely just following suit by adjusting prices to the same level as other vendors. "

 

They also adjusted the 4070, 3060 and 3050.

 

along with a glut as sales continue to be flat or worse. 4080 is the worse offender by far price wise of all of Nvidia's 4000 series compared to their 3000 series offerings.

 

Are the TI/Supers coming? Of course. For the 4090, it comes down to is it this year or next year (aka 3090ti time table).

 

 

 

 

Thanks. What with the 4080 Super? Will it be 1199$ and close to 4090 performance, same as 3080Ti vs 3090? Or will Nvidia continue and brand it 4080Ti? Or and will they put an higher price tag for this SKU?

 

AMD 7970 - 3DM 2001 

https://hwbot.org/submission/5290219_papusan_3dmark2001_se_radeon_hd_7970_178411_marks?recalculate=true

 

Fun part bro Fox. If the GPU overclock is too high with the older AMD cards the pc will freeze and the Cpu run full speed. With older nvidia card the bench just blink out in nothing and the Cpu will run normal. In short just start up the bench again without the need for re-start. I'm not very happy with how the older AMD cards works and their drivers. 

[Etern4l]

6 hours ago, electrosoft said:

 

LG C7's. The original then the replacement. I am not cut out for OLEDs as I routinely leave static images on screen and/or pass out with them on the screen. Most visible lightly is the older Comcast grey box menu select screen predominantly on the bottom. I ended up switching to a Sony 65" 3-4 years ago. I will literally fall asleep on menu/desktop screens. It is my secret power.  Another problem was they started to dim and become slightly uneven too.

 

I know OLEDs have come a long way, but I'm good right now not using them. Maybe down the road when they have perfect a 100% no burn in model which they still have not.

 

You could always slap a static image on your display every night for 4-8 hours and leave it as is for weeks on end to see how it holds up while you sleep as a true acid test.

 

 

 

"However, according to leaks revealed by YouTuber Graphically Challenged"

 

Yeah, that's where you lost me a bit.....He makes MLID seem rock solid and that presenter's voice he uses drives me nuts. I used to follow him before.

 

 

 

 

 

 

OK, so C7 is a bit of an older model - 2017 or before. Plus that usage was fairly taxing on your OLED lol

My C9 detects static-ish content and dims the screen after a while. Complete static content triggers a full screen saver. All that said, OLEDs are not ideal for 24/7 with static content as they run anti-burn routines while on standby. I'm sure it doesn't apply in your case, but in general it's very important to keep them powered on even when "turned off".

[Custom90gt]

Guess I'm glad I waited, I can just pick up a 4080 super and basically get a 4090. I also found out I may be graduating from residency early, December may be a very good month for me. Maybe I'll have my ram by then, lol.

 

I've also ran into a couple of snags with the NR200. The Silverstone SFX-L powersupply is too L, hah. The cables are hitting the 3080 and pushing down on it a little bit. I also cannot fit a 25mm thick fan above it. Time to drill a couple holes to move it up a little more and throw a 15mm thick fan above it.

 

On the topic of OLED screens. The AW3423DWF that I picked up is amazing when it comes to color/black even compared t to the very nice AW3821DW, but the annoying messages about running pixel refresh and my own concerns about leaving things up on the screen too long may make me switch back. Games look amazing though.

[Mr. Fox]

14 hours ago, tps3443 said:

Do you have any personal experience with OLED’s? I have never owned one besides my smartphones. I would prefer Mini LED. But I actually got the Aorus 48 for $550, so I could not pass it up! 

Congrats on the new monitor. I wondered if you bought one of the refurbished models. The retail model is severely overpriced at just under $900. The screen itself should be great. The part that I would have a challenge with is that it has feet at each end, like a TV, instead of a pedestal mount in the center, with no VESA mounting and apparently no way to adjust the height without putting it on some kind of platform.

 

If you frequently share your desktop in conference calls or video meetings the resolution might present some difficulty for other participants. You may have to choose the option to share a specific portion of the screen or only an application window that is resized. Depending on what your company uses for video conferencing, sharing an application window could be problematic because drop down menus and pop-ups do not appear for viewers. If you're onboarding a new employee or providing technical guidance to an existing employee that could be an impediment. I know only because I have run into that problem myself and the only solution with the video conferencing software that we use is to share the entire desktop so that they can see everything. That's where the route comes in on 4K screen. Even 1440p becomes a challenge for viewers in a video conference when you are sharing your desktop.

 

An option would be to change the resolution temporarily to 1080p for the video conferencing and change it back to native resolution when it is finished. Of course, this only applies if you are the one doing the presenting. More often than not, that is the case for me.

 

I'm seriously considering replacing my triple 1080p set up with a dual 4K 120Hz+ for work using smaller screens, like dual 27-inch, but I haven't found two screens with the right specs that are reasonably priced. The also need VESA so I can mount them to a single pedestal. I think I can probably still use my triple monitor pedestal and simply not use the center mounting location. The other thing, besides price, that is holding me back is the idea of going back to dual displays instead of triple makes me feel uncomfortable. I remember not liking a seam in the middle. Having my main display in the center for the application I am actively working on, with ancillary applications like Outlook on the left and other applications and instant messaging on the right, has been a huge boost to the productivity and convenience. The only thing that isn't fantastic about it it's the limited screen space with 1080p. I'm partially color blind and not a snob on color or image accuracy as long as the image quality is very crisp and the refresh rate is 120Hz or higher, but I am a snob about screen real estate. I don't like scrolling left or right, up or down, if I can avoid it. And I like being able to have three Excel sheets open side by side, each full screen so I can see most of the columns that I'm using without the need for scrolling.

[tps3443]

1 hour ago, Mr. Fox said:

Congrats on the new monitor. I wondered if you bought one of the refurbished models. The retail model is severely overpriced at just under $900. The screen itself should be great. The part that I would have a challenge with is that it has feet at each end, like a TV, instead of a pedestal mount in the center, with no VESA mounting and apparently no way to adjust the height without putting it on some kind of platform.

 

If you frequently share your desktop in conference calls or video meetings the resolution might present some difficulty for other participants. You may have to choose the option to share a specific portion of the screen or only an application window that is resized. Depending on what your company uses for video conferencing, sharing an application window could we problematic because drop down menus and pop-ups do not appear for viewers. If you're onboarding a new employee or providing technical guidance to an existing employee that could be an impediment. I know only because I have run into that problem myself and the only solution with the video conferencing software that we use is to share the entire desktop so that they can see everything.

 

An option would be to change the resolution temporarily to 1080p for the video conferencing and change it back to native resolution when it is finished. Of course, this only applies if you are the one doing the presenting. More often than not, that is the case for me.

 

I'm seriously considering replacing my triple 1080p set up with a dual 4K 120Hz+ for work using smaller screens, like dual 27-inch, but I haven't found two screens with the right specs that are reasonably priced. The also need VESA so I can mount them to a single pedestal. I think I can probably still use my triple monitor pedestal and simply not use the center mounting location. The other thing, besides price, that is holding me back is the idea of going back to dual displays instead of triple makes me feel uncomfortable. I remember not liking a seam in the middle. Having my main display in the center for the application I am actively working on, with ancillary applications like Outlook on the left and other applications and instant messaging on the right, has been a huge boost to the productivity and convenience. The only thing that isn't fantastic about it it's the limited screen space with 1080p. I'm not a snob on color accuracy or image quality as long as the image is crisp, but I am a snob about screen real estate. I don't like scrolling left or right or up or down if I can avoid it. And I like being able to have three Excel sheets open side by side, each full screen so I can see most of the columns that I'm using without the need for scrolling.

Yes I bought the refurb model. When I bought it yesterday, it was actually only $480 dollars on newegg. They have been slowly bumping the price up. 

 

I could not let it go by, I ordered before I even read refurb. 🤣

 

Fingers crossed. 
 

PS: It has the vesa mounting on the rear. I really didn’t think $800 was bad at all, and. OLED panels are kind of expensive, just like Mini LED panels. You also have KVM switch built in so you can use two computers with the monitor simultaneously with Picture in Picture. 

[tps3443]

There is a Z790 Dark on overclock forums for $625. 
 

There is also a 13900KS for $600 shipped. (Unknown SP)

[electrosoft]

7 hours ago, Etern4l said:

 

OK, so C7 is a bit of an older model - 2017 or before. Plus that usage was fairly taxing on your OLED lol

My C9 detects static-ish content and dims the screen after a while. Complete static content triggers a full screen saver. All that said, OLEDs are not ideal for 24/7 with static content as they run anti-burn routines while on standby. I'm sure it doesn't apply in your case, but in general it's very important to keep them powered on even when "turned off".

 

Yep, the newer models try their best to use tactics to reduce chances of burn in but the core technology is still suspect to it but with a bit of due diligence can be lessened. Miy display burned in within months. I got a replacement. That one burned in again within months. I got another replacement and sold it and switched to a Sony fald model that I'm still using 3-4 years later. I will be looking to upgrade in the next few years though from a 65" to a 75" so we will see.

 

8 hours ago, Papusan said:

Thanks. What with the 4080 Super? Will it be 1199$ and close to 4090 performance, same as 3080Ti vs 3090? Or will Nvidia continue and brand it 4080Ti? Or and will they put an higher price tag for this SKU?

 

AMD 7970 - 3DM 2001 

https://hwbot.org/submission/5290219_papusan_3dmark2001_se_radeon_hd_7970_178411_marks?recalculate=true

 

Fun part bro Fox. If the GPU overclock is too high with the older AMD cards the pc will freeze and the Cpu run full speed. With older nvidia card the bench just blink out in nothing and the Cpu will run normal. In short just start up the bench again without the need for re-start. I'm not very happy with how the older AMD cards works and their drivers. 

 

Love seeing the 7970 get a workout! That was my main GPU for over a year and a half when it was all shiny and new back in the day. 🙂

 

As for Nvidia....(disregarding VRAM issues on the 3080 10GB vs 3090 24GB)

 

Well the difference between the 3080ti/3090 scenario is there is a much bigger leap between the 4080 and 4090 giving Nvidia plenty of room to work.

 

The 3080 10gb -> 3080 12gb -> 3080ti -> 3090 -> 3090ti = 8704 -> 8960 -> 10240 ->10496 -> 10752

 

So 3080 vs 3090 = 8704 vs 10496 = ~20% difference (Even vs 3090ti = ~23%)

 

4080 -> 4090 = 9728 vs 16384 = ~68% difference (almost 3x difference)

 

Much bigger chasm means close but no cigar. A 4080 Super/TI will not be "on par" with a 4090 as you slot in a 4080 Super/TI  with ~13000 shaders and  20GB of memory.

 

The real question is, does Nvidia continue to thumb its nose up in the air and price it at $1399.99? or do they accept reality and either replace the 4080 16GB with it at the $1199.99 price point or drop the 4080 16GB down to $999.99 (forcing AMD's hand with the 7900XTX) along with slotting in the 4080 20GB at $1199?

 

If Nvidia comes to their senses and drops the 4080 16GB down to $999 and slots in a 4080 Super/TI at $1199? That would really put pressure on AMD while also allowing them to just sit atop the roost with the 4090 and potentially a 4090ti/super (I personally prefer  TI).

 

I wouldn't put it past Nvidia to release a 4090TI with ~17,408 shaders for $1799-$1999 and keep the full fat 18432 for top of the stack professional cards if at all. There simply is no competition on the top. The real question is their yields. Cores that are slightly not making the full fat cut but have more shaders than the 4090.

 

Looking back at the 3000 series, Nvidia slotting in so many models was insane then the last gasp money grab of the 3090ti wraps it up(and all those AIBs who ordered thinking the good times were going to last lol). It also gives us insight into Nvidia letting no partial core go unused... 🙂

 

 

They're not called NGreedia the Green Goblin for nothing....

 

 

 

 

[electrosoft]

1 hour ago, tps3443 said:

There is a Z790 Dark on overclock forums for $625. 
 

There is also a 13900KS for $600 shipped. (Unknown SP)

 

Nah, it's all about the refresh now.... last hurrah for Socket 1700. 🙂

 

 

[electrosoft]

Blizzard: "Diablo IV will present a dynamic landscape with proper asset management and comparable visuals and play across a wide array of hardware"

 

Diablo IV: 4k Ultra settings? Why yes I would like 20GB+ of VRAM and RAM....why thank you!

 

[tps3443]

1 hour ago, electrosoft said:

Blizzard: "Diablo IV will present a dynamic landscape with proper asset management and comparable visuals and play across a wide array of hardware"

 

Diablo IV: 4k Ultra settings? Why yes I would like 20GB+ of VRAM and RAM....why thank you!

 

That’s really impressive man!. I can’t wait to play in some 4K on a large screen. Your GPU also looks so efficient compared to mine. 

[electrosoft]

1 hour ago, tps3443 said:

That’s really impressive man!. I can’t wait to play in some 4K on a large screen. Your GPU also looks so efficient compared to mine. 

 

When I tell you this Suprim X was miles better than the other identical one I tested from Best Buy, that isn't an understatement! 🙂

 

Runs cooler, pulls less, clocks higher both boost and OC, 2x+ higher on the mem and no coil screech just a low vibration compared to that Best Buy garbage sample. I do wonder what this one would do on chilled water from time to time.

 

3090 on that 8nm fatty hot Samsung node but there are areas of D4 that will push me to 450w+ stock. I have frames capped in NV to 142 so you can see I'm basically getting cap or near cap everywhere. Those lows are loads/cut scenes.

 

As for Diablo IV, I'm having a blast. Luckily timing I JUST finished doing everything there is to do in FO76 and was entering "dailies repeat cycle" just to maybe progress select buildouts so this came along at the right time (or it was back to WoW). I've played all the Diablos and this one is pretty righteous so far.

 

 

[tps3443]

37 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

 

When I tell you this Suprim X was miles better than the other identical one I tested from Best Buy, that isn't an understatement! 🙂

 

Runs cooler, pulls less, clocks higher both boost and OC, 2x+ higher on the mem and no coil screech just a low vibration compared to that Best Buy garbage sample. I do wonder what this one would do on chilled water from time to time.

 

3090 on that 8nm fatty hot Samsung node but there are areas of D4 that will push me to 450w+ stock. I have frames capped in NV to 142 so you can see I'm basically getting cap or near cap everywhere. Those lows are loads/cut scenes.

 

As for Diablo IV, I'm having a blast. Luckily timing I JUST finished doing everything there is to do in FO76 and was entering "dailies repeat cycle" just to maybe progress select buildouts so this came along at the right time (or it was back to WoW). I've played all the Diablos and this one is pretty righteous so far.

 

 

Other people talking about Diablo really makes me want to try it just becuz, but I have never really liked games like that either, but at the same time I’ve never really tried them or given them a chance. Maybe I’ll give it a try. I really like first person or third person open world RPG games. I am extremely shallow when it comes to games lol. Better have some sweet graphics and physics or story for me to play it. 

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Almost as timestamp, LOOL

My Cablemod 180 Adapter on a 4090 TUF after 2.5 months of use...

 

 

9 days later... Mine finally started to melt too, been 3 months with the 180 adapter...

 

6 hours ago, electrosoft said:

Well the difference between the 3080ti/3090 scenario is there is a much bigger leap between the 4080 and 4090 giving Nvidia plenty of room to work.

 

6 hours ago, electrosoft said:

So 3080 vs 3090 = 8704 vs 10496 = ~20% difference (Even vs 3090ti = ~23%)

 

4000 series haven't 4080Ti so the new 4080 Super will be the old xx80Ti model branding. 3080Ti vs 3090 was minor in difference. You think this will be the new 4080Ti? https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-4080-ti.c3887

 

If they do it this way they can continue with 4090 at 1600$. But if the rumors above was correct (20% performance increase that won't match the increased cuda cores above the 4080). Techpowerups info rumors suggest +44% more cuda cores. 14080 vs 9728 cores.

 

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AMD Radeon RX 7900 XT Gets a Huge Price Cut in Europe, Now Available for Less than €800

 

GPU Shipments Continued To Decline In Q1 2023: NVIDIA at 84%, AMD at 12%, Intel at 4% Market Share