*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[Mr. Fox]

2 hours ago, Papusan said:

What a nightmare. Bling bling is here to stay. Only 100$. Are you kidding? Bro Fox.... You really need swap out that ugly and tacky waterblock, LOOL

 

How it performs doesn't matter. What's matter nowadays is new fancy features. The more  eye candy, the better. 

 

 

CORSAIR iCUE ELITE CPU Cooler LCD Display Upgrade Kit Review

Others/Miscelleneous by stefan @ 2022-04-25 read/post comments(0)

The iCUE ELITE CAPELLIX LCD Display Upgrade Kit does really add quite a bit of eye candy to your current setup, while doubling up as a monitoring tool for the internal components. It comes with an IPS panel with a 480x480 resolution and renders video effects at 30FPS, for very fluent animations. The frame of the display is also RGB enabled in order to sync different effects with other iCUE-enabled hardware you may have installed, while the installation can be done by anyone with the help of four mounting magnets so no need of removing the pump from the CPU! 

 

 

Her's the latest version I know about TurboV_Core_1.10.19

The picture of the kitty with the sunglasses is what sold me. It doesn't need to perform well as long as I have that.

[Reciever]

If the block guaranteed -15c over the competition and had a hello kitty icon to make it work, I bet even @Mr. Fox would rock it until some other product bested it 🙂

[Papusan]

No way stable for 24/7 every day use (for benching) but the results is still ok🙂 Ranked 22th Pyprime 2.0 for DDR5

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/4985168_papusan_pyprime___2b_with_benchmate_ddr5_sdram_7sec_110ms?recalculate=true

[ryan]

 

 

what I noticed was 59fps with 3060 and like 98fps with 3090.  Not much of a difference experience wise, but people are paying an extra 1000 or more but why? worlds freeking dumb.

 

https://www.newegg.com/msi-geforce-rtx-3090-rtx-3090-gaming-x-trio-24g/p/N82E16814137595?Item=N82E16814137595&Description=3090&cm_re=3090-_-14-137-595-_-Product&quicklink=true

 

thats the 3090

 

 

heres the 3060

https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-3060-gv-n3060vision-oc-12gd/p/N82E16814932432?Item=N82E16814932432&Description=3060&cm_re=3060-_-14-932-432-_-Product&quicklink=true

 

 

so you need those extra frames for what again? im sure most people can notice 90 over 60? like I barely notice 144hz over 60hz the difference is noticeable but slight..60 feels smooth..144 also but just a touch better. when your gunning for 300fps I get it you might be able to crank up one or two settings but will you even see the difference.. like I was checking out farcry 5 and low looks identical to veryhigh.....nufff said

 

 

its not just me saying maxed is dumb.. heres witcher 3 maxed then optimised settings

 

 

which is maxed thats not obvious but the framerate difference is more than 60fps

[johnksss]

20 hours ago, Papusan said:

What a nightmare. Bling bling is here to stay. Only 100$. Are you kidding? Bro Fox.... You really need swap out that ugly and tacky waterblock, LOOL

 

How it performs doesn't matter. What's matter nowadays is new fancy features. The more  eye candy, the better. 

 

 

CORSAIR iCUE ELITE CPU Cooler LCD Display Upgrade Kit Review

Others/Miscelleneous by stefan @ 2022-04-25 read/post comments(0)

The iCUE ELITE CAPELLIX LCD Display Upgrade Kit does really add quite a bit of eye candy to your current setup, while doubling up as a monitoring tool for the internal components. It comes with an IPS panel with a 480x480 resolution and renders video effects at 30FPS, for very fluent animations. The frame of the display is also RGB enabled in order to sync different effects with other iCUE-enabled hardware you may have installed, while the installation can be done by anyone with the help of four mounting magnets so no need of removing the pump from the CPU! 

 

 

Her's the latest version I know about TurboV_Core_1.10.19

If it has rather useful and pretty accurate information (Kingpin 3090 Display), then I'm onboard, but sure as hell wont be posting no stupid cats! That's 100% a no. Now a nice German Shepard, Malamute, Husky or Lab, sure.😂

[Clamibot]

6 hours ago, ryan said:

 

 

what I noticed was 59fps with 3060 and like 98fps with 3090.  Not much of a difference experience wise, but people are paying an extra 1000 or more but why? worlds freeking dumb.

 

https://www.newegg.com/msi-geforce-rtx-3090-rtx-3090-gaming-x-trio-24g/p/N82E16814137595?Item=N82E16814137595&Description=3090&cm_re=3090-_-14-137-595-_-Product&quicklink=true

 

thats the 3090

 

 

heres the 3060

https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-3060-gv-n3060vision-oc-12gd/p/N82E16814932432?Item=N82E16814932432&Description=3060&cm_re=3060-_-14-932-432-_-Product&quicklink=true

 

 

so you need those extra frames for what again? im sure most people can notice 90 over 60? like I barely notice 144hz over 60hz the difference is noticeable but slight..60 feels smooth..144 also but just a touch better. when your gunning for 300fps I get it you might be able to crank up one or two settings but will you even see the difference.. like I was checking out farcry 5 and low looks identical to veryhigh.....nufff said

 

 

its not just me saying maxed is dumb.. heres witcher 3 maxed then optimised settings

 

 

which is maxed thats not obvious but the framerate difference is more than 60fps

 

For me, there is a major difference between 60 fps and 144 fps. The difference in smoothness is insane. 60 fps is laggy and pisses me off, so I always gun for 144 fps. However, yeah I do agree people are being freaking idiots. I wouldn't pay an extra $1000 for a GPU. I wouldn't even spend $1000 on a GPU period. More like $200-$500.

 

These idiots are the main cause of rising prices. They keep overpaying for GPUs, which in turn causes AMD and Nvidia to charge more. It must be really nice having infinite disposable income, I wish I had that.🤣

 

As for settings in games, like you said, ultra is usually a waste since it gives minimal improvement to graphics at a significant performance cost. Personally, I go with a mix of ultra, high, medium, and low depending on the setting. Textures are the only setting I ever set to ultra. Everything else is a mix of high, medium, and low.

 

It's surprising how little of a difference there is between low settings and ultra settings in modern games. It used to be that there was a major difference. Not anymore. Pretty soon, it won't be necessary to go any higher than low settings since low will look like ultra from today.

[Papusan]

35 minutes ago, johnksss said:

If it has rather useful and pretty accurate information (Kingpin 3090 Display), then I'm onboard, but sure as hell wont be posting no stupid cats! That's 100% a no. Now a nice German Shepard, Malamute, Husky or Lab, sure.😂

HaHa. No love for cats?🙃

 

I hope EVGA have better software for display info. I won't touch Corsair's bloat with a 10 feet pole. If I really cared about such info and loads of flashy lights I would buy an AIO with an display on the cooler. 

[electrosoft]

Jufes addresses my very issue with the other channels who reviewed the 5800X3D (except for Hardware num3rs who did it properly too).

[Papusan]

2 hours ago, electrosoft said:

Jufes addresses my very issue with the other channels who reviewed the 5800X3D (except for Hardware num3rs who did it properly too).

A dancing cpu. Exactly as the mobile Intel processors paired with Dynamic boost 2.0 (The GPU has to loan cooling capacity from the CPU if the GPU need the thermal headroom to reach max boost and the Cpu clock speed drop as a stone in the sky). There are everal ways the HW manufacturers can cripple own products. Yep, today’s word has to be “Dancing”.😁

[Mr. Fox]

10 hours ago, ryan said:

 

 

what I noticed was 59fps with 3060 and like 98fps with 3090.  Not much of a difference experience wise, but people are paying an extra 1000 or more but why? worlds freeking dumb.

 

https://www.newegg.com/msi-geforce-rtx-3090-rtx-3090-gaming-x-trio-24g/p/N82E16814137595?Item=N82E16814137595&Description=3090&cm_re=3090-_-14-137-595-_-Product&quicklink=true

 

thats the 3090

 

 

heres the 3060

https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-3060-gv-n3060vision-oc-12gd/p/N82E16814932432?Item=N82E16814932432&Description=3060&cm_re=3060-_-14-932-432-_-Product&quicklink=true

 

 

so you need those extra frames for what again? im sure most people can notice 90 over 60? like I barely notice 144hz over 60hz the difference is noticeable but slight..60 feels smooth..144 also but just a touch better. when your gunning for 300fps I get it you might be able to crank up one or two settings but will you even see the difference.. like I was checking out farcry 5 and low looks identical to veryhigh.....nufff said

 

 

its not just me saying maxed is dumb.. heres witcher 3 maxed then optimised settings

 

 

which is maxed thats not obvious but the framerate difference is more than 60fps

3 hours ago, Clamibot said:

 

For me, there is a major difference between 60 fps and 144 fps. The difference in smoothness is insane. 60 fps is laggy and pisses me off, so I always gun for 144 fps. However, yeah I do agree people are being freaking idiots. I wouldn't pay an extra $1000 for a GPU. I wouldn't even spend $1000 on a GPU period. More like $200-$500.

 

These idiots are the main cause of rising prices. They keep overpaying for GPUs, which in turn causes AMD and Nvidia to charge more. It must be really nice having infinite disposable income, I wish I had that.🤣

 

As for settings in games, like you said, ultra is usually a waste since it gives minimal improvement to graphics at a significant performance cost. Personally, I go with a mix of ultra, high, medium, and low depending on the setting. Textures are the only setting I ever set to ultra. Everything else is a mix of high, medium, and low.

 

It's surprising how little of a difference there is between low settings and ultra settings in modern games. It used to be that there was a major difference. Not anymore. Pretty soon, it won't be necessary to go any higher than low settings since low will look like ultra from today.

Spending gobs of money on high end hardware for gaming is truly foolish and unwarranted. There will always be random exceptions of shoddy coding of games (software) that requires an inordinately strong CPU or GPU to perform well enough to not be a miserable experience. For all intents and purposes, anything between, and including, a 1070 and 3060 is more than enough juice to have a pleasant gaming experience if you tune the settings to match the hardware correctly. The exception is an abnormally heavy use of ray-tracing. The high-end enthusiast parts are useful for other hobbies, like overclocked benching and e-peen competition, but gaming isn't a hobby that warrants the added expense.

 

I also agree that it is very difficult for me to spot a huge difference (sometimes any difference) in how a game looks while moving from low to medium, or medium to high/ultra. If I have to pay close enough attention to the subtle differences, then I am nit-picking rather than enjoying playing the game. Things like hitching and stuttering are far more noticeable and visually harmful to the gaming experience than things like a few extra jaggy edges, subtle improvements in texturing or a few extra sparkles here and there that nobody other than a photo-realism snob cares about.

4 hours ago, johnksss said:

If it has rather useful and pretty accurate information (Kingpin 3090 Display), then I'm onboard, but sure as hell wont be posting no stupid cats! That's 100% a no. Now a nice German Shepard, Malamute, Husky or Lab, sure.😂

My favorite pets are the ones that belong to someone else. I do prefer cats because they eat less and are lower maintenance, less dependent on attention from their master, less messy and can be left to take care of themselves outdoors if you go out of town on a business trip or vacation. As long as they have water, they'll eat bugs, mice, snakes, lizards or whatever. I like both cats and dogs and enjoy their companionship as long as they are gentle and well-mannered, but not fond of the added responsibility and expense of caring for pets. We have two cats now. I love them, and they're good kitties, but often wish we didn't have them only because pets of any kind are an added hassle I can happily live without. I tend to place much greater value on my property than I do the pets/pests that can damage the property. If they damage any of my important stuff, I have to resist the urge to kill them to ensure it never happens again. I think that all aggressive pets need to be euthanized. If they cause harm or injury to humans or other pets, that warrants death. 

3 hours ago, Papusan said:

HaHa. No love for cats?🙃

 

I hope EVGA have better software for display info. I won't touch Corsair's bloat with a 10 feet pole. If I really cared about such info and loads of flashy lights I would buy an AIO with an display on the cooler. 

Having the monitoring features is useful when the information is accurate. But, definitely not at the expense of sacrificing performance induced by the bloatware supporting it. If you have to use resource-sapping bloatware to output the sensor data that kind of negates the value of the monitoring features. At best, you are left with an extra task of having to monitor or manage the systemic impact of the monitoring software overhead.

[Hertzian56]

1 hour ago, Mr. Fox said:

Spending gobs of money on high end hardware for gaming is truly foolish and unwarranted. There will always be random exceptions of shoddy coding of games (software) that requires an inordinately strong CPU or GPU to perform well enough to not be a miserable experience. For all intents and purposes, anything between, and including, a 1070 and 3060 is more than enough juice to have a pleasant gaming experience if you tune the settings to match the hardware correctly. The exception is an abnormally heavy use of ray-tracing. The high-end enthusiast parts are useful for other hobbies, like overclocked benching and e-peen competition, but gaming isn't a hobby that warrants the added expense.

 

I also agree that it is very difficult for me to spot a huge difference (sometimes any difference) in how a game looks while moving from low to medium, or medium to high/ultra. If I have to pay close enough attention to the subtle differences, then I am nit-picking rather than enjoying playing the game. Things like hitching and stuttering are far more noticeable and visually harmful to the gaming experience than things like a few extra jaggy edges, subtle improvements in texturing or a few extra sparkles here and there that nobody other than a photo-realism snob cares about.

My favorite pets are the ones that belong to someone else. I do prefer cats because they eat less and are lower maintenance, less dependent on attention from their master, less messy and can be left to take care of themselves outdoors if you go out of town on a business trip or vacation. As long as they have water, they'll eat bugs, mice, snakes, lizards or whatever. I like both cats and dogs and enjoy their companionship as long as they are gentle and well-mannered, but not fond of the added responsibility and expense of caring for pets. We have two cats now. I love them, and they're good kitties, but often wish we didn't have them only because pets of any kind are an added hassle I can happily live without. I tend to place much greater value on my property than I do the pets/pests that can damage the property. If they damage any of my important stuff, I have to resist the urge to kill them to ensure it never happens again. I think that all aggressive pets need to be euthanized. If they cause harm or injury to humans or other pets, that warrants death. 

Having the monitoring features is useful when the information is accurate. But, definitely not at the expense of sacrificing performance induced by the bloatware supporting it. If you have to use resource-sapping bloatware to output the sensor data that kind of negates the value of the monitoring features. At best, you are left with an extra task of having to monitor or manage the systemic impact of the monitoring software overhead.

Agree on both the gaming rigs and the pets. It's just too much now with all the pets everywhere and the owners who think everyone loves to be mobbed by their substitute babies/emotional emptiness aids/"BFF". It's all good until the animal reacts unpredictably like animals do and you get bit etc And it's only going to get worse and weirder. Afa gaming yeah it's a hobby so some want to spend on those toys but the return on investment monetarily and visually just drops way off past x60 or x70 level. I've mostly gone to old favorites and selected indys which don't require much hp, big games are largely just rehashed or activist based for years. 

[Clamibot]

For me, the only part that really makes sense to splurge on is the CPU. As a high framerate gamer, the CPU's performance (both single core and multi-core) is the most major factor that will make or break the experience for me, which is why I got my 10900K in the first place. The overclocking headroom allowed by the very good quality silicon has allowed me to brute force my way to 144 fps in all but the most unoptimized of games.

 

Modern mid range GPUs are powerful enough to satisfy my needs now with a bit of settings tuning in games since I play at 1080p and plan to stay there. I got my Clevo X170 6 months ago to satisfy my high framerate (144 fps) requirement in ALL games and I don't need gaming ruined for me again by moving to higher resolutions.

 

Heh heh, I should've stayed away from high framerate gaming. That cost me.🤣 Oh well. I just need to make sure my requirements don't increase again.

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

12 minutes ago, Clamibot said:

For me, the only part that really makes sense to splurge on is the CPU. As a high framerate gamer, the CPU's performance (both single core and multi-core) is the most major factor that will make or break the experience for me, which is why I got my 10900K in the first place. The overclocking headroom allowed by the very good quality silicon has allowed me to brute force my way to 144 fps in all but the most unoptimized of games.

 

Modern mid range GPUs are powerful enough to satisfy my needs now with a bit of settings tuning in games since I play at 1080p and plan to stay there. I got my Clevo X170 6 months ago to satisfy my high framerate (144 fps) requirement in ALL games and I don't need gaming ruined for me again by moving to higher resolutions.

 

Heh heh, I should've stayed away from high framerate gaming. That cost me.🤣 Oh well. I just need to make sure my requirements don't increase again.

The enthusiast-grade consumer CPUs like 10900K and 12900K are ideally suited for multi-purpose workloads, including gaming. You can overclock them, run them stock, undervolt them... a lot of flexibility that is not available for locked-down peasant-grade CPUs with fewer cores. That said, you can also overspend and hurt your results if you go overboard on the CPU. It is not uncommon to see better gaming performance from CPUs in the 6 to 12 core range. When you start going above 12 core/24 thread the gaming performance tends to often go the opposite direction. They are certainly more powerful, excellent for benching and severe demand CPU workloads, but they are not ideally suited for some games that get easily "confused" by the excessive core/thread count available to them.

[Mr. Fox]

5 hours ago, electrosoft said:

Jufes addresses my very issue with the other channels who reviewed the 5800X3D (except for Hardware num3rs who did it properly too).

Yeah, he nailed it. If you're a "normie" that is frightened of tuning a computer or just a click-and-run jockey with no interest or skill, buy it. The captured comment (screenshot below) seems evident about AMD in general, they just went to the extreme to make this CPU worthless to every performance enthusiast on the planet. Even their "unlocked" CPU suck at overclocking. Whether that is due to intent or incompetence is anyone's guess.

No thank you.

No thank you.

[Talon]

 

[Clamibot]

3 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

The enthusiast-grade consumer CPUs like 10900K and 12900K are ideally suited for multi-purpose workloads, including gaming. You can overclock them, run them stock, undervolt them... a lot of flexibility that is not available for locked-down peasant-grade CPUs with fewer cores. That said, you can also overspend and hurt your results if you go overboard on the CPU. It is not uncommon to see better gaming performance from CPUs in the 6 to 12 core range. When you start going above 12 core/24 thread the gaming performance tends to often go the opposite direction. They are certainly more powerful, excellent for benching and severe demand CPU workloads, but they are not ideally suited for some games that get easily "confused" by the excessive core/thread count available to them.

 

Yeah I used to be part of that crowd before I became a proficient programmer. Once I started my master's in software engineering, I realized that multithreading isn't the holy grail of performance like it was being hyped to be. While more cores certainly helps and multithreading certainly helps a lot, they help with specific types of tasks; ones that can be parallelized. It's one of a myriad of ways to increase performance. Since some tasks are serial by nature, so we run into limits posed by Amdahl's law. This is why I put such an emphasis on single core performance when looking for a new CPU.

 

In practice, 8 cores is where the performance gains stop for most games. Above that, you get performance regressions. Fortunately for me, I do have workloads that would benefit from more than 8 cores since I sometimes have to do video editing in addition to developing software, so the 10900K isn't wasted on me. I would definitely fall into the prosumer demographic.

 

Intel's approach to appease the "MOAR CORES!" crowd with increasing the e-core count on their new CPUs is a bit disappointing. Amdahl's law will catch up with them very quickly. I wish instead they'd just keep improving the p-cores and leave it at that, because that's what really matters for most consumers. It'd be nice if they'd offer something like the 12900K, but without any e-cores, and with the same silicon quality on the p-cores that you'd get from the 12900K.

[Papusan]

23 hours ago, Papusan said:

No way stable for 24/7 every day use (for benching) but the results is still ok🙂 Ranked 22th Pyprime 2.0 for DDR5

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/4985168_papusan_pyprime___2b_with_benchmate_ddr5_sdram_7sec_110ms?recalculate=true

 

Improved to 18th place for Pyprime 2.0 - DDR5. It seems I can't go below 23 on Cas latency. Run it at Cas 22 seems somewhat flaky🙃 Most likely due the higher BCLK clocks. Run the Cpu near 5.9GHz don't make it easier, LOOOL

 

Right below the LN2 territory🙂

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/4985846_papusan_pyprime___2b_with_benchmate_ddr5_sdram_6sec_962ms?recalculate=true

 

 

Bro @Mr. Fox @johnksss What is an somewhat safe VDD2 voltage (MC voltage)? I think about for both long term and short term use. Thanks

 

Friday here, so have a nice weekend to you all 🙂

[johnksss]

23 hours ago, Papusan said:

HaHa. No love for cats?🙃

 

I hope EVGA have better software for display info. I won't touch Corsair's bloat with a 10 feet pole. If I really cared about such info and loads of flashy lights I would buy an AIO with an display on the cooler. 

Nah, not like that. More or less making jokes, but I do prefer dogs over cats. 😂

21 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Spending gobs of money on high end hardware for gaming is truly foolish and unwarranted. There will always be random exceptions of shoddy coding of games (software) that requires an inordinately strong CPU or GPU to perform well enough to not be a miserable experience. For all intents and purposes, anything between, and including, a 1070 and 3060 is more than enough juice to have a pleasant gaming experience if you tune the settings to match the hardware correctly. The exception is an abnormally heavy use of ray-tracing. The high-end enthusiast parts are useful for other hobbies, like overclocked benching and e-peen competition, but gaming isn't a hobby that warrants the added expense.

 

I also agree that it is very difficult for me to spot a huge difference (sometimes any difference) in how a game looks while moving from low to medium, or medium to high/ultra. If I have to pay close enough attention to the subtle differences, then I am nit-picking rather than enjoying playing the game. Things like hitching and stuttering are far more noticeable and visually harmful to the gaming experience than things like a few extra jaggy edges, subtle improvements in texturing or a few extra sparkles here and there that nobody other than a photo-realism snob cares about.

My favorite pets are the ones that belong to someone else. I do prefer cats because they eat less and are lower maintenance, less dependent on attention from their master, less messy and can be left to take care of themselves outdoors if you go out of town on a business trip or vacation. As long as they have water, they'll eat bugs, mice, snakes, lizards or whatever. I like both cats and dogs and enjoy their companionship as long as they are gentle and well-mannered, but not fond of the added responsibility and expense of caring for pets. We have two cats now. I love them, and they're good kitties, but often wish we didn't have them only because pets of any kind are an added hassle I can happily live without. I tend to place much greater value on my property than I do the pets/pests that can damage the property. If they damage any of my important stuff, I have to resist the urge to kill them to ensure it never happens again. I think that all aggressive pets need to be euthanized. If they cause harm or injury to humans or other pets, that warrants death. 

Having the monitoring features is useful when the information is accurate. But, definitely not at the expense of sacrificing performance induced by the bloatware supporting it. If you have to use resource-sapping bloatware to output the sensor data that kind of negates the value of the monitoring features. At best, you are left with an extra task of having to monitor or manage the systemic impact of the monitoring software overhead.

Yes, borrowing a pet is far better than actually owning one as you get older. When you get tired of them you can send them home.😂

15 hours ago, Talon said:

 

Now that you have unleased the power...Any new benchmarks from it? I can grab a 3090 TI from MC as they have them in stock. Although I most likely woundn't as my motherboard is still not back from MSI.🤦‍♂️

[Papusan]

On 4/27/2022 at 10:44 PM, Papusan said:

What a nightmare. Bling bling is here to stay. Only 100$. Are you kidding? Bro Fox.... You really need swap out that ugly and tacky waterblock, LOOL

 

How it performs doesn't matter. What's matter nowadays is new fancy features. The more  eye candy, the better. 

 

 

CORSAIR iCUE ELITE CPU Cooler LCD Display Upgrade Kit Review

Others/Miscelleneous by stefan @ 2022-04-25 read/post comments(0)

The iCUE ELITE CAPELLIX LCD Display Upgrade Kit does really add quite a bit of eye candy to your current setup, while doubling up as a monitoring tool for the internal components. It comes with an IPS panel with a 480x480 resolution and renders video effects at 30FPS, for very fluent animations. The frame of the display is also RGB enabled in order to sync different effects with other iCUE-enabled hardware you may have installed, while the installation can be done by anyone with the help of four mounting magnets so no need of removing the pump from the CPU! 

 

 

Her's the latest version I know about TurboV_Core_1.10.19

 

20 hours ago, Talon said:

 

More bling bling. This time for Asus. And only $84.42 USD for the ROG Wingwall Graphics Card Holder.

 

@johnksss @Mr. Fox will this new option from Asus bring a better value than the free eLeash "hangman's loop" holder from Evga? Or would you rather prefer something more exotic as this new RGB graphics holder? Remember the Asus Wingwall graphics card holder got the Red Dot design awards 2022. So it has to be good and will most likly make your pc inside looks a lot better. Sorry, I'm so sarcastic. But this is waste of money. And on top ugly. Whats wrong with the reviewers/workers at Red Dead Dot product design?

 

@Talon Your graphics card is from Asus. Isn't it?🙂  Remember this brings value, you even get two swappable acrylic plates so it let you customize aesthetics to match your build. Yep... Only $85 USD for this fancy piece of plastic/alu thingy paired with RGB lights. 

 

ASUS releases Wingwall and Herculx graphics card holders

ROG Wingwall is equipped with an Aura Sync-enabled RGB LED array that generates synchronized lighting and 3D effects via two readily replaceable acrylic panels, combining function and design.

 

 

This type of gear flooded with RGB lights will become big business once the bigger and heavier 4000 series graphics cards seeing the light 2022/23. 

 

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DDR5-6200 C36 memory kit now below $400. And if money ain't a problem you can get  two dummy modules for $60. Not a bad price to pay for more bling bling?😵

V-Color Manta XPrism DDR5-6200 C36 Review: Ordinary Swimmer

V-Color introduces the brand's first DDR5 memory kits. Can the company outshine its rivals?

 

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Here's something for bro @Ashtrix Rumors about 14th gen Hybrid processors from Intel. I wonder how many baby cores Intel will offer this time vs real P-cores. Can't be less than what they will offer for Raptor lake. Aka double amount of the E-cores vs P-cores. But the most important has to be the amount threads. Isn't it?

 

Intel Meteor Lake reaches new milestone

The upcoming mobile architecture has entered a new stage of its development. 

 

Meteor Lake is to feature up to 192 graphics Execution Units, which is a double of the Alder Lake/Raptor Lake GPU core count. Intel has not confirmed how many CPU cores would Meteor Lake support, but it was confirmed to operate in the 5 to 125W power range. Therefore, Meteor Lake will debut on low-power laptops as well as high-end desktop consumer systems

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

https://www.overclock.net/threads/new-12700k-build-i-was-told-100-to-use-win-11.1797876/post-28982208

 

[KING19]

On 4/28/2022 at 6:23 AM, ryan said:

 

 

what I noticed was 59fps with 3060 and like 98fps with 3090.  Not much of a difference experience wise, but people are paying an extra 1000 or more but why? worlds freeking dumb.

 

https://www.newegg.com/msi-geforce-rtx-3090-rtx-3090-gaming-x-trio-24g/p/N82E16814137595?Item=N82E16814137595&Description=3090&cm_re=3090-_-14-137-595-_-Product&quicklink=true

 

thats the 3090

 

 

heres the 3060

https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-3060-gv-n3060vision-oc-12gd/p/N82E16814932432?Item=N82E16814932432&Description=3060&cm_re=3060-_-14-932-432-_-Product&quicklink=true

 

 

so you need those extra frames for what again? im sure most people can notice 90 over 60? like I barely notice 144hz over 60hz the difference is noticeable but slight..60 feels smooth..144 also but just a touch better. when your gunning for 300fps I get it you might be able to crank up one or two settings but will you even see the difference.. like I was checking out farcry 5 and low looks identical to veryhigh.....nufff said

 

 

its not just me saying maxed is dumb.. heres witcher 3 maxed then optimised settings

 

 

which is maxed thats not obvious but the framerate difference is more than 60fps

Its noticeable on fast paced games for example e-sports type games like PUBG, Valorant, COD Warzone, CSGO and so on

 

Also playing games on maxed out settings is great if you've the right hardware but in most cases its pointless because there isnt much of a difference in graphics between high and ultra settings. You're losing a lot of FPS for nothing and this have been proven over and over

 

 

Sadly people who cares about maxing out every game out there are the reason why GPUs are overpriced as hell and that was before covid hit.

[johnksss]

1 hour ago, KING19 said:

Its noticeable on fast paced games for example e-sports type games like PUBG, Valorant, COD Warzone, CSGO and so on

 

Also playing games on maxed out settings is great if you've the right hardware but in most cases its pointless because there isnt much of a difference in graphics between high and ultra settings. You're losing a lot of FPS for nothing and this have been proven over and over

 

 

Sadly people who cares about maxing out every game out there are the reason why GPUs are overpriced as hell and that was before covid hit.

Sort of off topic with this but hear me out:

Let me ask you this....Exactly how many lobbies have you been in where people are bragging about how many FPS they get? Or how many times you end up in the same lobby do they try to brag about a "gazillion fps I'm getting" and people actually care to listen? Or how high their resolution is? I know I sure as hell don't get anyone doing that on a regular basis or even on a super less than casual basis. And if they were in our clan they would get kicked the hell out if their KD is .30 bragging about having a maxed out setup.

 

At the end of the day, that is a forum thing. If im running a raid I sure don't want to hear someone talking about how many FPS they are getting and yet we are failing the raids because they cant even play.😂🤦‍♂️

 

Okay, on topic.

as to the whole covid thing with gpus going up in price is not accurate. it was because of Donald J Trump and his war on tariffs that cause that. Along with shipping lane disasters. Covid is the excuse lots of folks want to blame for everything.

[Mr. Fox]

I know I care a whole lot more about rate at which my retirement is being systematically destroyed than I do about how much GPUs cost. I was already going to have to work until probably age 75 before I could afford to retire, and at the rate these clowns are causing my 401K and IRA to hemorrhage it might end up being 85 now. My nest egg had begun growing at an impressively healthy and unprecedented rate until the regime change, but the Socialist Party has messed things up pretty bad for me. I hope there is an opportunity to repair the damage before it's too late. About a year ago it used to cost me $35 to fill the tank on my Ford 500. I filled it up today and it was $80. What wonderful "progress" for America. GPUs don't seem too important right now. Luxury items tend to take a back seat to basic necessities. That might bring GPU prices down, too. You can't buy groceries or drive to work with a GPU.

[KING19]

52 minutes ago, johnksss said:

Sort of off topic with this but hear me out:

Let me ask you this....Exactly how many lobbies have you been in where people are bragging about how many FPS they get? Or how many times you end up in the same lobby do they try to brag about a "gazillion fps I'm getting" and people actually care to listen? Or how high their resolution is? I know I sure as hell don't get anyone doing that on a regular basis or even on a super less than casual basis. And if they were in our clan they would get kicked the hell out if their KD is .30 bragging about having a maxed out setup.

 

At the end of the day, that is a forum thing. If im running a raid I sure don't want to hear someone talking about how many FPS they are getting and yet we are failing the raids because they cant even play.😂🤦‍♂️

 

Okay, on topic.

as to the whole covid thing with gpus going up in price is not accurate. it was because of Donald J Trump and his war on tariffs that cause that. Along with shipping lane disasters. Covid is the excuse lots of folks want to blame for everything.

 

Not that i know of but then again i dont play MP games like that anymore but when i did play, gamers would lower their settings to low on purpose to get as much FPS as possible to gain an advantage even when their PCs can easily run them on max settings among with other factors like latency issues, lag, rubberbanding and etc. Like i said its noticeable on fast paced games for example e-sports type games like PUBG, Valorant, COD Warzone, CSGO and so on. Also its the reason why high refresh screens are very popular with gamers.

 

Sorry but blaming tariffs and our former president is just a terrible excuse because GTX 1080s including the Ti version cost nearly $1000 back in 2016 in most stores. Also the Titan GPUs cost over $1000 as far back as 2013. In other words high end GPUs always been overpriced before covid hit compared to midrange GPUs which cost half the price of high end GPUs.

[Mr. Fox]

Part of it is supply and demand got messed up by the crypto money from nothing craze, and part of it was corporate greed and probably some artificial manipulation of supply and demand to power that greed. And, NVIDIA basically having a one-horse show for more than a decade, with consumers (me included) being stupid enough to pay asinine prices to get what they wanted instead of tell them to cram their silicon garbage where the sun don't shine. It is interesting to note that with crypo values plumetting, the supply is much better and now the prices are moving back the right direction. I hope the cooling off period that occurred due to unavailable product and hyper-inflated prices causes an overabundance of supply and they end up having to sell stock at a loss to move it. It would definitely be a just reward.