*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[tps3443]

17 minutes ago, Papusan said:

Board power - 470W - Suprime 3090 Ti 

 

https://www.tweaktown.com/articles/10076/msi-geforce-rtx-3090-ti-suprim-overclocking-oc/index.html

 

I do not doubt that you cannot get good temps out of the air cooled card. But you’ll be that much more ahead with the AIO cooled GPU. 
 

 

The above is the same power draw but it’s still running 10C hotter with maximum fan speed. And the Asus LC’s pump

was only turning like 700rpm 
 

If you max out the fan speed and pump

speed on the Asus LC AIO GPU it too will run much cooler. I am gonna guess and say 50-52C. 

 

The Suprim X 3090Ti is a beast though. What sort of clocks can you sustain? 

[Reciever]

Morpheous II will solve a lot of problems :)  

[tps3443]

This is the Strix LC 3090Ti.

 

It really does well. The AIO is working at least.

 

 

 

 

@Papusan

 

What can that 3090Ti manage in something like Timespy extreme? 

 

Admin edit: Please refrain from double posting. Thanks! 

[Papusan]

34 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

@Papusan

 

What can that 3090Ti manage in something like Timespy extreme? 

World record for single card. 

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/5006556_biso_biso_3dmark___time_spy_extreme_geforce_rtx_3090_ti_14977_marks

 

Btw. Dell continue with their +20 years chassis construction (wrapped with glossy pastic) for their high end gaming desktops (Alienware). What a tragedy. And Tomshardware give it 4 out of 5 stars. Double tragedy!

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/alienware-aurora-r13

[electrosoft]

1 hour ago, Papusan said:

We have to see the results first. ButTweaktown wasn't happy with Asus 3090Ti AIO card. An AIO cooled card fail if it perform equal as a air cooled card. We'll see 🙂

 

ASUS loses big points with the lack of performance gains over an air-cooled RTX 3090 Ti, more noise than an air-cooled RTX 3090 Ti, and has a huge bulky AIO cooler. 

 

I wouldn't recommend the ASUS ROG Strix LC GeForce RTX 3090 Ti over an air-cooled GPU, simply because it offers no performance leap over the air-cooled RTX 3090 Ti cards. The GPU temps being so low are awesome, but not awesome enough to have a huge AIO cooler installed in my PC... or that it's louder than my MSI RTX 3090 Ti SUPRIM X. Sorry, ASUS.

Read more: https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/10075/asus-rog-strix-lc-geforce-rtx-3090-ti-oc-edition/index.html

 

And all white in my fully Black box screems... NOOOOOO 🙂

 

 

As always, it comes down to the AIB. Having tested personally the EVGA FTW 3090ti vs KPE 3090 and KPE 3090ti Hybrids = FTW 3090ti TS run = ~65c and fans at full blast. Same run with 3090ti KPE AIO = ~51c and much quieter and clocking ~40mhz higher stock for stock (2075 vs 2115)...could just be the silicon there though. FTW 3090ti runs were when it was ~67f in my computer room versus 70f for the KPE 3090ti. KPE 3090ti 360mm is mounted up top so it isn't getting the fresh air as I could only mount the AC LF II 420mm in the front.

 

Gaming (WoW but of course) in Ardenweald (roughest zone) after an hour = ~45.5c KPE 3090ti / 65c FTW 3090ti. I did remove the side panel for the FTW 3090ti though to stop the hotboxing of my chassis.

 

If done properly, Hybrid AIO beats air cooling on average every time.

 

Plus Hybrid has much more flexibility in fan/rad adjustments. I quickly tossed the new, snazzy EVGA aRGB fans and slapped on some Arctic P12s. Much quieter and better performance.

 

And as always, a real block trumps all if that is your cup of tea.

 

LOL, as for the Neptune it would definitely have to be a white/silver build out. Just think, if you went with a white build, you could get white crocs to match! 🙂

 

 

 

 

[Reciever]

6 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

 

 

As always, it comes down to the AIB. Having tested personally the EVGA FTW 3090ti vs KPE 3090 and KPE 3090ti Hybrids = FTW 3090ti TS run = ~65c and fans at full blast. Same run with 3090ti KPE AIO = ~51c and much quieter and clocking ~40mhz higher stock for stock (2075 vs 2115)...could just be the silicon there though. FTW 3090ti runs were when it was ~67f in my computer room versus 70f for the KPE 3090ti. KPE 3090ti 360mm is mounted up top so it isn't getting the fresh air as I could only mount the AC LF II 420mm in the front.

 

Gaming (WoW but of course) in Ardenweald (roughest zone) after an hour = ~45.5c KPE 3090ti / 65c FTW 3090ti. I did remove the side panel for the FTW 3090ti though to stop the hotboxing of my chassis.

 

If done properly, Hybrid AIO beats air cooling on average every time.

 

Plus Hybrid has much more flexibility in fan/rad adjustments. I quickly tossed the new, snazzy EVGA aRGB fans and slapped on some Arctic P12s. Much quieter and better performance.

 

And as always, a real block trumps all if that is your cup of tea.

 

LOL, as for the Neptune it would definitely have to be a white/silver build out. Just think, if you went with a white build, you could get white crocs to match! 🙂

 

 

 

 

They better pristine if they are white! lmao

[Papusan]

1 hour ago, electrosoft said:

LOL, as for the Neptune it would definitely have to be a white/silver build out. Just think, if you went with a white build, you could get white crocs to match! 🙂

Drag it all out... Buttons everywher. Looking forward to see you with the Neptune in your hands and new shiny white crocs on the feet's. Best of both worlds, LOOL

 

Me......😁

[Mr. Fox]

2 hours ago, Papusan said:

Drag it all out... Buttons everywher. Looking forward to see you with the Neptune in your hands and new shiny white crocs on the feet's. Best of both worlds, LOOL

 

Me......😁

Bill Miller is a Texas-based Barbeque chain. Their food is tasty, but there are no locations close to Brother @Clamibot When I was a kid growing up in the San Antonio area we would get their chopped BBQ beef sandwiches 4 for $1.00 and a quart of fresh-brewed iced tea for $0.25. 

[Reciever]

7 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

Bill Miller is a Texas-based Barbeque chain. Their food is tasty, but there are no locations close to Brother @Clamibot When I was a kid growing up in the San Antonio area we would get their chopped BBQ beef sandwiches 4 for $1.00 and a quart of fresh-brewed iced tea for $0.25. 

Maybe for Papusans Bday next year I can go grab a pair :)  

[tps3443]

Looking at the RTX4080 (16GB) model. Even that is an upgrade over the 3090/3090Ti. 
 

I can manage about 12,000+ in Timespy Extreme, and it’s totally stable everyday. But that 4080 (16GB) model is managing 15,000 stock. 
 

That’s a 25% jump and we haven’t even begun overclocking the 4080 yet. I’m gonna say maybe potential for 35-40% overall with a fully overclocked and watercooled 4080 (16GB).

 

Looking at these numbers again, I’m getting lured in to the Nvidia bi-annual trap pretty fast. Just imagine the 4090. 

[electrosoft]

35 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

Looking at the RTX4080 (16GB) model. Even that is an upgrade over the 3090/3090Ti. 
 

I can manage about 12,000+ in Timespy Extreme, and it’s totally stable everyday. But that 4080 (16GB) model is managing 15,000 stock. 
 

That’s a 25% jump and we haven’t even begun overclocking the 4080 yet. I’m gonna say maybe potential for 35-40% overall with a fully overclocked and watercooled 4080 (16GB).

 

Looking at these numbers again, I’m getting lured in to the Nvidia bi-annual trap pretty fast. Just imagine the 4090. 

 

As always, wait for the real numbers, but if you're going 4000 definitely 4090... Even with Nvidia's fluffery you know it is going to be at least a raw uptick of 50-60% over the 3090ti right out of the box for rasterization never mind the bump to RT.

 

 

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

2 hours ago, electrosoft said:

 

As always, wait for the real numbers, but if you're going 4000 definitely 4090... Even with Nvidia's fluffery you know it is going to be at least a raw uptick of 50-60% over the 3090ti right out of the box for rasterization never mind the bump to RT.

Yup.... ^^^ this ^^^ I would rather continue using a flagship GPU that is one or two generations old than buy a second fiddle GPU in current gen. The budget-friendlier gamer GPUs don't interest me even when they are more powerful than the GPU that I own that used to be the top dog in its day. Like they say, "Go big or go home." Plus, I just don't like the idea of opening my wallet to show financial support for products geared toward compromise.

 

[Clamibot]

3 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Bill Miller is a Texas-based Barbeque chain. Their food is tasty, but there are no locations close to Brother @Clamibot When I was a kid growing up in the San Antonio area we would get their chopped BBQ beef sandwiches 4 for $1.00 and a quart of fresh-brewed iced tea for $0.25. 

 

Yum yum! I love barbeque! I may have to go to one next time I have to take a trip to Austin for work.

[Mr. Fox]

30 minutes ago, Clamibot said:

 

Yum yum! I love barbeque! I may have to go to one next time I have to take a trip to Austin for work.

It is not on the same caliber as Hard 8 or Spring Creek, or even Rudy's. But, it is really tasty and more affordably priced. It's like a top-notch BBQ "fast food" place. Perfect place to grab lunch when you are having a hankering for BBQ but don't want to spend a lot and do not have a lot of time to spare. You will like it... I'm sure of it. Kind of like comparing Fuddrucker's to BK, or Salt Grass to Outback. It's all good stuff, but one is greater.

---

So, I did some home office remodeling and added a sit/stand desk for work. Now the desk that I was using for work is moved side-by-side with the matching desk that has my pleasure rig, making for what amounts to a 10-foot long desk surface.

[jaybee83]

14 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

https://www.tweaktown.com/articles/10076/msi-geforce-rtx-3090-ti-suprim-overclocking-oc/index.html

 

https://www.tweaktown.com/articles/10077/asus-rog-strix-lc-geforce-rtx-3090-ti-overclocking-oc/index.html

 

Edit. I think with Evga out of question we need to look after what of the AIB partners that will offer the overall better bin for their best cards. 

 

 

yep, with EVGA out of the picture i was a bit in a pickle and had to do some research on the other AIBs. seems like ill get the Zotac top tier 4090, mainly due to their 5yr warranty option after registration. considering the gpu will make up roughly 25-30% of the total system cost, i think warranty will be my main focus 😅 plus im curious see that curvy 4090 cooler in real life 😄 aside from that, 9 heatpipes, vapour chamber, dual bios and 24+4 VRM design sounds good to me!

 

14 hours ago, Reciever said:

Morpheous II will solve a lot of problems 🙂

 

isnt the issue compatibility though? morpheus II has been around for quite a while...

 

13 hours ago, Papusan said:

World record for single card. 

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/5006556_biso_biso_3dmark___time_spy_extreme_geforce_rtx_3090_ti_14977_marks

 

Btw. Dell continue with their +20 years chassis construction (wrapped with glossy pastic) for their high end gaming desktops (Alienware). What a tragedy. And Tomshardware give it 4 out of 5 stars. Double tragedy!

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/alienware-aurora-r13

 

um....WHAT exactly made TH give that piece of crap 4 out of 5?! wth 😵

 

13 hours ago, electrosoft said:

 

 

As always, it comes down to the AIB. Having tested personally the EVGA FTW 3090ti vs KPE 3090 and KPE 3090ti Hybrids = FTW 3090ti TS run = ~65c and fans at full blast. Same run with 3090ti KPE AIO = ~51c and much quieter and clocking ~40mhz higher stock for stock (2075 vs 2115)...could just be the silicon there though. FTW 3090ti runs were when it was ~67f in my computer room versus 70f for the KPE 3090ti. KPE 3090ti 360mm is mounted up top so it isn't getting the fresh air as I could only mount the AC LF II 420mm in the front.

 

Gaming (WoW but of course) in Ardenweald (roughest zone) after an hour = ~45.5c KPE 3090ti / 65c FTW 3090ti. I did remove the side panel for the FTW 3090ti though to stop the hotboxing of my chassis.

 

If done properly, Hybrid AIO beats air cooling on average every time.

 

Plus Hybrid has much more flexibility in fan/rad adjustments. I quickly tossed the new, snazzy EVGA aRGB fans and slapped on some Arctic P12s. Much quieter and better performance.

 

And as always, a real block trumps all if that is your cup of tea.

 

LOL, as for the Neptune it would definitely have to be a white/silver build out. Just think, if you went with a white build, you could get white crocs to match! 🙂

 

 

 

 

 

13 hours ago, Reciever said:

They better pristine if they are white! lmao

 

the very first thing bro papu will do with white components and white crocs is grab a black sharpie and go nuts 🤣

 

5 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

It is not on the same caliber as Hard 8 or Spring Creek, or even Rudy's. But, it is really tasty and more affordably priced. It's like a top-notch BBQ "fast food" place. Perfect place to grab lunch when you are having a hankering for BBQ but don't want to spend a lot and do not have a lot of time to spare. You will like it... I'm sure of it. Kind of like comparing Fuddrucker's to BK, or Salt Grass to Outback. It's all good stuff, but one is greater.

---

So, I did some home office remodeling and added a sit/stand desk for work. Now the desk that I was using for work is moved side-by-side with the matching desk that has my pleasure rig, making for what amounts to a 10-foot long desk surface.

 

sweet setup! im also hoping for enough space in our next appartment (currently on the lookout) to set up a monster desk for my monster build. a guy needs space in his man cave! 😁

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, jaybee83 said:

the very first thing bro papu will do with white components and white crocs is grab a black sharpie and go nuts 🤣

Black is beautiful. It is my favorite color, even though purists will tell you it is not a color. I like white and think it looks amazing as long as it belongs to someone else and I don't have to stare at it every day. White is for light. 😄 Black shows dust worse, which is a problem here for sure. But, white reveals every blemish and no sin goes unpunished when there is a white backdrop. Seriously though, if it could remain spotless and blemish-free forever I'd be down with it because a brand new white system looks fantastic. It's the not brand new ones that ruin it.

 

1 hour ago, jaybee83 said:

sweet setup! im also hoping for enough space in our next appartment (currently on the lookout) to set up a monster desk for my monster build. a guy needs space in his man cave! 😁

Thanks. Yeah, it is impossible to have enough space for everything, at least on my budget. I'd like to have an extra room the size of my 2-car garage, or larger, for nothing but my computer lab and enough money where I could go nuts building everything to my ideal specifications. Hell will more likely freeze over before that happens.

[jaybee83]

4 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

Black is beautiful. It is my favorite color, even though purists will tell you it is not a color. I like white and think it looks amazing as long as it belongs to someone else and I don't have to stare at it every day. White is for light. 😄 Black shows dust worse, which is a problem here for sure. But, white reveals every blemish and no sin goes unpunished when there is a white backdrop. Seriously though, if it could remain spotless and blemish-free forever I'd be down with it because a brand new white system looks fantastic. It's the not brand new ones that ruin it.

black is sleek for sure! my new built will also be quite blacked out, although i got some RGB sprinkles here and there to make it pop a bit. 

[Papusan]

3 hours ago, jaybee83 said:

black is sleek for sure! my new built will also be quite blacked out, although i got some RGB sprinkles here and there to make it pop a bit. 

Yep, as long they show only white🙂

 

Microsoft just can't stop screw up their latest and greatest. 

 

Windows 11 22H2 apparently causing problems on Nvidia graphics cards
https://notebooktalk.net/topic/168-all-about-windows-11-news-and-announcements/?do=findComment&comment=14046

[tps3443]

Delete

 

This 3090KP HC is Pretty fast! 
 

 

 

Admin edit: if you have a double post please report it and it will be taken care of. :) 

[Papusan]

On 9/22/2022 at 8:40 PM, Papusan said:

https://hothardware.com/news/rtx-4080-12gb-has-more-than-memory-cut-from-16gb-model#:~:text=The reaction of,the naming scheme.

 

The reaction of the hardware enthusiast community to the naming of the two RTX 4080 cards, as well as the overall high pricing of the Ada Lovelace GPU family, has been vitriolic in spots. The Reddit thread for the Project Beyond event on the /r/NVIDIA subreddit has over 4000 comments, and a great many of them are expressing either disappointment at the pricing or frustration with the naming scheme.

 

GALAX Reveals NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 12GB Has More Than Memory Cut From 16GB Model hothardware.com

 

Nvidia defend their latest scam with crap talk. 

 

There's also the question of why the RTX 4080 12GB isn't just called the RTX 4070. Talking with Nvidia during a briefing, this exact question came up: What was the thought process behind calling the 12GB chip a 4080 instead of a 4070, especially since it's a different chip?

Nvidia's Justin Walker, Senior Director of Product Management, said, "The 4080 12GB is a really high performance GPU. It delivers performance considerably faster than a 3080 12GB... it's faster than a 3090 Ti, and we really think it's deserving of an 80-class product."

Frankly, that's a crap answer. Of course it's faster! It's a new chip and a new architecture; it's supposed to be faster. Remember when the GTX 1070 came out and it was faster than a 980 Ti? I guess that wasn't "deserving" of an 80-class product name. Neither was the RTX 2070 when it matched the 1080 Ti, or the 3070 when it matched the 2080 Ti.

 

Why Nvidia's RTX 4080, 4090 Cost so Damn Much tomshardware.com
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/why-nvidias-4080-4090-cost-so-damn-much

 

Nvidia hasn't released die shots or renderings of AD103 and AD104 just yet, but we do have the full specs. They're quite a bit smaller, and much of that comes from reducing core counts, memory interfaces, and L2 cache size. The 4080 models will naturally be higher volume products than the 4090, though it's worth pointing out that the 4090 potentially has 70% more compute, 50% more memory bandwidth and capacity, and uses 41% more power, all while "only" costing 33% more. In other words, RTX 4080 16GB pricing is proportionately worse than the RTX 4090.

 

Yep, not only is the "castrated 4080@12GB of bad value due you pay premium for xx70 performance, but the more expensive real 4080 give a bad value as well. In short the the whole xx80 line-up is messed up. Jensen need to clean up, but I doub't he will do that.

 

What a Ugly box. I wonder how big the 5000 series xx90 will be.

 

 

AORUS GeForce RTX 4090 MASTER is the biggest RTX 4090 so far, by far
Anthony Garreffa | Sep 22, 2022 8:58 PM CDT
NVIDIA unleashed its new GeForce RTX 4090 but now AIB partners are announcing their new custom RTX 4090 designs... and man... GIGABYTE's new custom AORUS GeForce RTX 4090 MASTER makes the word behemoth feel small.

Read more: https://www.tweaktown.com/news/video_cards/index.html

[Ashtrix]

Nvidia CEO goes even further defending the garbage move. He says Moore's Law is dead.

 

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“A 12-inch wafer is a lot more expensive today,” he replied, citing rising chip making costs. “Moore’s Law is dead … It’s completely over.” The executive added the expectations of twice the performance for similar cost was “a thing of the past” for the industry.

 

Yeah sure lol have a look at American ETFs, NASDAQ, NYSE market people will come out and rush to buy when they can barely feed themselves. He will say any sort of BS and lies to sell this lol.

 

Best part ? Intel says Moore's Law is Alive (Aug 2022 article)

 

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Often called ‘Mr. Transistor,’ Tahir Ghani has filed more than 1,000 patents and introduced some of Intel’s most revolutionary changes in transistors over his 28-year career.

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Tahir Ghani, Intel senior fellow and director of process pathfinding in Intel’s Technology Development Group, is behind those plans.

 

While many experts in industry and academia have predicted the demise of Moore’s Law, Tahir says Intel has new ideas that keep it alive.

 

“It won’t die on my watch,” says Tahir, who works at Intel’s Gordon Moore Park campus in Hillsboro, Oregon. “Moore’s Law only stops when innovation stops.”

 

Watch “In My Own Words” as Tahir talks about his job and what it means to keep Moore’s Law alive.

 

 

How Mr. Ngreedia Green Goblin got those Ampere GAxxx chips for peanuts at Samsung 8N node which is 10nm custom node, and who used it ? NOBODY except Nvidia, unlimited supply and 1/2 the cost of TSMC 7N wafers. That guy knew Mining would be booming which is why he fitted Ampere with GDDR6X Custom PAM4 signalling for extreme Memory performance even that is cheaper than GDDR6. All that was possible because of Moore's Law.

 

He got everything for cheap. Maybe one of the reason why the GA102 shared with all 3080 to 3090 variants. But he thought it was his greatest mistake for 3080 with GA102 for $699. He fixed it now, AD104 like Pascal era of GP104 gets to xx80 GPU (1080 was GP104) but do note 1080Ti is a GP102.

 

Also if you realize the pricing of existing stock Ampere cards, they are not slashed anymore, they are fixed now. Probably to save AIBs because if Nvidia axes more MSRP off these Ampere cards MSI, GB, EVGA, ASUS, Gainward, Palit, Zotac, Galax, etc etc will actually make loss over the thin margins. So he kept the pricing intact and took the pricing baseline from 3090Ti and then applied it to the RTX40.

 

3090Ti ~$1150

4080 12GB $900-1000 either it loses out by 15-25% in Raster / matches or gains using fake frame tech so less priced.

4080 16GB 25% faster than 3090Ti in Raster and shares 25% more price.

4090 50-60% faster in raster from what they have shown, 2-4X in Fake Frame Tech, 60% more cost.

 

*Raster performance is Nvidia picked titles - RE8, AC Valhalla, The Division 2.

**All that when he unceremoniously charged RTX3080 -> RTX3090 2X COST for 15% max perf diff which is now normalized. Expect 4090Ti MSRP to be normalized for RTX5000 cards.

 

 

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Huang said gamers need to compare performance on a price point-to-price point basis, adding the new Ada Lovelace cards are “monumentally better” versus the prior products at equivalent price points.

 

People need to vote with wallet.

 

AMD adjusted a bit of pricing, although 6900XT is literally same as 6800XT but they are better in pricing, 6800XT fights with a 3090 and beats it in some tiles and it's $600 right now. Shame people do not buy them because garbage DLSS and RT, ironic since DLSS 2.x is dead now by FSR2.0 AND DLSS3.x double whammy.

 

 

Going by the current Ampere and RDNA2, we are in for a GPU overstock slump. I wonder the RDNA3 prices now how AMD will respond, they clearly have 2 choices - Use the golden chance and knock off Nvidia by severely undercutting OR Reduce the prices a bit and maintain not much marketshare again.

[electrosoft]

49 minutes ago, Papusan said:

Nvidia defend their latest scam with crap talk. 

 

There's also the question of why the RTX 4080 12GB isn't just called the RTX 4070. Talking with Nvidia during a briefing, this exact question came up: What was the thought process behind calling the 12GB chip a 4080 instead of a 4070, especially since it's a different chip?

Nvidia's Justin Walker, Senior Director of Product Management, said, "The 4080 12GB is a really high performance GPU. It delivers performance considerably faster than a 3080 12GB... it's faster than a 3090 Ti, and we really think it's deserving of an 80-class product."

Frankly, that's a crap answer. Of course it's faster! It's a new chip and a new architecture; it's supposed to be faster. Remember when the GTX 1070 came out and it was faster than a 980 Ti? I guess that wasn't "deserving" of an 80-class product name. Neither was the RTX 2070 when it matched the 1080 Ti, or the 3070 when it matched the 2080 Ti.

 

Why Nvidia's RTX 4080, 4090 Cost so Damn Much tomshardware.com
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/why-nvidias-4080-4090-cost-so-damn-much

 

Nvidia hasn't released die shots or renderings of AD103 and AD104 just yet, but we do have the full specs. They're quite a bit smaller, and much of that comes from reducing core counts, memory interfaces, and L2 cache size. The 4080 models will naturally be higher volume products than the 4090, though it's worth pointing out that the 4090 potentially has 70% more compute, 50% more memory bandwidth and capacity, and uses 41% more power, all while "only" costing 33% more. In other words, RTX 4080 16GB pricing is proportionately worse than the RTX 4090.

 

Yep, not only is the "castrated 4080@12GB of bad value due you pay premium for xx70 performance, but the more expensive real 4080 give a bad value as well. In short the the whole xx80 line-up is messed up. Jensen need to clean up, but I doub't he will do that.

 

What a Ugly box. I wonder how big the 5000 series xx90 will be.

 

 

AORUS GeForce RTX 4090 MASTER is the biggest RTX 4090 so far, by far
Anthony Garreffa | Sep 22, 2022 8:58 PM CDT
NVIDIA unleashed its new GeForce RTX 4090 but now AIB partners are announcing their new custom RTX 4090 designs... and man... GIGABYTE's new custom AORUS GeForce RTX 4090 MASTER makes the word behemoth feel small.

Read more: https://www.tweaktown.com/news/video_cards/index.html

 

Well, I guess the "glass half full" look at this (barf) is he could have priced the 4090 at 1999 making performance:cost proportionate with the 4080 16gb and the 4080-- 12GB......

 

The 4090, compared to the 3090, is offering substantially more performance for only $100 more USD but it is downright pricey considering the original price of flagship GPUs just 3 generations ago (Pascal).

 

Looking at the great Ampere glut, the pricing makes sense and either forces a buyer into a monster purchase of a 4000 card or a more realistic purchase of a 3070 for ~$450-500.

 

4080 12GB is going to have a hard time beating a 3090ti in pure rasterization. RT performance is going to be good though.

 

I wouldn't even contemplate a 4080 16GB even if I have a 3080+ class card and it is priced at $1200. I'm just going to pony up the extra $300 and get a 4090 if I was in that situation.

 

2000 more cores, I expect if Jensen has his way the 4090ti is going to be $1999.99.

 

Once AMD became a non-factor, all bets were off. 6000 series made some good inroads but maybe Jensen knows something we don't about AMD specs/pricing to feel he can justify these prices. I'm still hoping AMD comes out with a winner and similar performance leaps as RDNA to RDNA2.

 

 

[cylix]

 

Bad news are piling up. 😃. What a bad launch for nvidia. Hope  amd can profit from this. Better for the consumers in the end if nvidias legs are shaking. Maybe they will wake up and treat us how its supposed to be.

[Reciever]

Annoying. 

 

I know I am not the majority here but I have been using a 3090 on my 550w psu just fine. Mind you, I have tuned the gpu to 1v and may take it back further if needed. I have pulled ip to 375w and my house hasn't burned down yet. 

 

Now we have on the horizon where I could have a similar scenario and if the manufacturer decides to be aggressive it wouldn't surprise me if it simply doesn't turn on at all. 

 

Could you imagine if GPU's simply won't accept all the power your sending it, because it wasn't the right brand or the right sku? Micro and laptop systems still experience issues of not being able to identify ID chips to tell the EC what is available to it. I tangle with this for work on the daily. 

 

Unless I'm misreading things, it has been a somber day for me. 

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47 minutes ago, Reciever said:

Annoying. 

 

I know I am not the majority here but I have been using a 3090 on my 550w psu just fine. Mind you, I have tuned the gpu to 1v and may take it back further if needed. I have pulled ip to 375w and my house hasn't burned down yet. 

 

Now we have on the horizon where I could have a similar scenario and if the manufacturer decides to be aggressive it wouldn't surprise me if it simply doesn't turn on at all. 

 

Could you imagine if GPU's simply won't accept all the power your sending it, because it wasn't the right brand or the right sku? Micro and laptop systems still experience issues of not being able to identify ID chips to tell the EC what is available to it. I tangle with this for work on the daily. 

 

Unless I'm misreading things, it has been a somber day for me. 

 

That sounds like something out of a dystopian nightmare. I really hope this doesn't happen.