*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[Etern4l]

28 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

For our buddies that like SFF, this prebuilt is interesting. I like the unfinished base. 

 

 

 

He mostly lost me early on with a cablemod adapter plug, but I carried on a bit longer. I arrived and left quite sceptical of any performance claims, and I am not sure he presented any broad and comprehensive benchmarks. DIdn't quite catch the model name, but looks like it's the Tiki model, so he was repeatedly comparing and contrasting a ca. $4,500+ PC with a $500 PS5, doing silly things like blaming Sony for not including a 2TB drive at that price point lol

 

I'm sorry to say but a lot of the big name tech influencers' content is becoming harder and harder to watch. Their operating assumption seems to be that the core target audience are lobotomised sheep. 

 

 

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

28 minutes ago, Etern4l said:

I'm sorry to say, but a lot of the big name tech influencer content is getting harder and harder to watch. 

Yeah, most of it is just entertainment. That's all I expect most of it to be. It is almost as worthless as what is presented to us as "news" from the brain-dead mainstream zombie sheeple.

 

The Tiki is an interesting SFF. Everything from FalconNW is, and always has been, grossly overpriced and focused on aesthetics more than performance. Anything SFF is a compromise when it comes to performance.

 

On another subject, last week I helped one of my sons upgrade his antique gaming PC with a Gigabutt B650 Aorus Elite AX mobo, 7700X CPU, Trident 32GB DDR5-6000 and a Dark Rock Pro 4 BK022 cooler (none of which I would have recommended had he asked for my opinion, but it was a massive increase from the AM3/DDR3 boat anchor he was living with). Building in his NZXT Phantom 410 case (circa 2012 when he built the entire system) was very difficult. The air cooler has like 3-5mm clearance from the side panel and cable management was quite painful. But, he is in love with the case, and there is essentially no way a decent AIO would have fit. The air cooler was kind of an unavoidable and necessary evil. 

 

I immediately noticed the mysterious Windows user profile and disabled it. I was like "what the heck, Gigasuck?" when I saw it. Steve talks about that in this video. I'd never recommend anything from Gigabytme and I wish he would have asked for input before ordering parts. His original components and his 3060 are all from Gigabutt.

 

The fact that he was still gaming on a quad core AM3 CPU with DDR3-1066 (4x4GB) in 2023 really highlights the fact that uber-expensive high-end components is not an absolute necessity. Most of the titles he plays were still very playable with low or medium settings. He was having issues with a few newer titles like Far Cry New Dawn and is excited about Diablo IV, so an upgrade was unavoidable. Now he can play everything with pleasing graphic settings and most of the eye candy. He is 100% PC gamer to the bone, not an overclocker, and it was an inexpensive upgrade compared to what I would have recommended. He's happy, so I'm happy for him.

 

[Raiderman]

9 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

 

Looking good! How's the Asrock Taichi 7900xtx treating you versus your former 6800xt? Good uplift? coil whine? Gaming?

 

 

Have not had a ton of time to play with it, but from what I have gathered, it is a huge uplift in performance. I hear no coil whine, of course I am not liquid cooled, so the fans may hide some of it. I have been playing a little Assasins Creed III remastered, and it doesn't even breathe hard on that title. Bench wise I have seen some insane scores on the bot, and I'm not quite sure how they are getting so high, especially when my clocks are the same or better.

 

 

[tps3443]

12 minutes ago, Raiderman said:

Have not had a ton of time to play with it, but from what I have gathered, it is a huge uplift in performance. I hear no coil whine, of course I am not liquid cooled, so the fans may hide some of it. I have been playing a little Assasins Creed III remastered, and it doesn't even breathe hard on that title. Bench wise I have seen some insane scores on the bot, and I'm not quite sure how they are getting so high, especially when my clocks are the same or better.

 

 

Why is your graphics score so much higher on the bottom screenshot? 

[Raiderman]

35 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

Why is your graphics score so much higher on the bottom screenshot? 

The top one is mine...You tell me bro...lol

[Papusan]

23 hours ago, Papusan said:

As of now... Avoid Gigabyte at all costs 5:23

Gigabyte RTX 30/40 PCBs are cracking, the company rejects RMA claims

Gigabyte RTX 30/40 PCBs are cracking, the company rejects RMA claims - VideoCardz.com

Gigabyte RTX 30/40 GPUs suffer from PCB cracking Pay attention when installing GeForce cards manufactured by Gigabyte. Gigabyte PCB cracking, Source: Louis Rossmann The problem was first brought to light by Louis Rossmann, a known personality advocating for self—repair laws. He has a long...

 

 

 

The best of both worlds. Proper designed PCB and dual 12VHPWR connectors(less smoke&fire and less broken PCBs).

From today. Expect more similar videos forwards with spotlight on Gigabyte and cracked PCBs. Gigabut bro @Mr. Fox?

 

 

[Raiderman]

All my premamod bros, who is this?

https://hwbot.org/user/sweepersc/

 

Where is he/she? I have not seen them here in the forums, but would like to know them.

[tps3443]

18 minutes ago, Raiderman said:

The top one is mine...You tell me bro...lol

The one on the bottom has a 13900K with DDR5 7200, that’s the only difference I see. But it has a 44% higher graphics score 😳

 

That really just doesn’t make sense to me.

[Raiderman]

4 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

The one on the bottom has a 13900K with DDR5 7200, that’s the only difference I see. But it has a 44% higher graphics score 😳

 

That really just doesn’t make sense to me.

Which should make his Physics, and combined score higher than mine, but they are not. There is something fishy about that benchmark run, and thats why I highlighted the red exclamation mark. Not sure if that is a valid run.

[Papusan]

12 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

The one on the bottom has a 13900K with DDR5 7200, that’s the only difference I see. But it has a 44% higher graphics score 😳

 

That really just doesn’t make sense to me.

 

5 minutes ago, Raiderman said:

Which should make his Physics, and combined score higher than mine, but they are not. There is something fishy about that benchmark run, and thats why I highlighted the red exclamation mark. Not sure if that is a valid run.

 

Because the cpu run with less cores. You loose graphics score and total score with more cores running. For best total score you nneed disable a few baby cores on 13900K. And for higer graphics scores you have to disable even more cores but this will hamper the total score. Welcome to todays modern tech world.

[tps3443]

4 minutes ago, Papusan said:

 

 

Because the cpu run with less cores. You loose graphics score and total score with more cores running.

I’ll give it a run with my 13900 to see where it’s at. I have not run Firestrike in a very long time. One thing for sure, my GPU excels best under really heavy 4K loads lol. In this lighter 1080P stuff I get beat up by newer gen GPU’s 

[Papusan]

5 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

I’ll give it a run with my 13900 to see where it’s at. I have not run Firestrike in a very long time. One thing for sure, my GPU excels best under really heavy 4K loads lol. In this lighter 1080P stuff I get beat up by newer gen GPU’s 

Newer faster GPUs don't scale as well in performance on lower resolutions (benchmarks). Probably also in games.

[Raiderman]

Here is my 4k Firestrike Extreme run for comparison.

 

[Raiderman]

18 minutes ago, Papusan said:

 

 

Because the cpu run with less cores. You loose graphics score and total score with more cores running. For best total score you nneed disable a few baby cores on 13900K. And for higer graphics scores you have to disable even more cores but this will hamper the total score. Welcome to todays modern tech world.

So, if I do the same, and disable some weaker cores, I would get a higher graphics score? Or does that only apply to Intel?

[Papusan]

21 minutes ago, Raiderman said:

So, if I do the same, and disable some weaker cores, I would get a higher graphics score? Or does that only apply to Intel?

I don’t think it will help the Ryzen processors. But try with only 8 or less cores and see if the graphics score increase. 

[tps3443]

29 minutes ago, Papusan said:

Newer faster GPUs don't scale as well in performance on lower resolutions (benchmarks). Probably also in games.

I always thought the 6950XT and even the RTX4070 did super well at like 1080P/1440P. But then when the high power 4K kicks in they kind of fizzle out.

 

[Custom90gt]

Humm Evga 3090ti FTW3 for $900? If it were 50-100 less I'd pick it up quick, but I'm struggling to justify it.

[tps3443]

16 minutes ago, Custom90gt said:

Humm Evga 3090ti FTW3 for $900? If it were 50-100 less I'd pick it up quick, but I'm struggling to justify it.

I’d buy a 3090 Kingpin Hybrid. You can find them for cheap like $700 maybe, 360MM AIO, and faster than 3090Ti FE right out of the box with no adjustments or overclocking applied.
 

 

[Custom90gt]

2 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

I’d buy a 3090 Kingpin Hybrid. You can find them for cheap like $700 maybe, 360MM AIO, and faster than 3090Ti FE right out of the box with no adjustments or overclocking applied.
 

 

Sadly that's a no go for my SFF case.

[tps3443]

2 hours ago, Raiderman said:

Here is my 4k Firestrike Extreme run for comparison.

 

That 7900XTX does well in Firestrike and Firestrike Extreme. I can't touch it. 

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 video card benchmark result - Intel Core i9-13900KS Processor,ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. ROG MAXIMUS Z790 APEX (3dmark.com)


This is my Speedway run. (First time ever running it, I just broke down and paid the $5 bucks lol)

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 video card benchmark result - Intel Core i9-13900KS Processor,ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. ROG MAXIMUS Z790 APEX (3dmark.com)

[Mr. Fox]

4 hours ago, Raiderman said:

All my premamod bros, who is this?

https://hwbot.org/user/sweepersc/

 

Where is he/she? I have not seen them here in the forums, but would like to know them.

One of the moderators at the old notebookreview forms kept banning him for some reason. I don't remember what his last username was but you would recognize it. He was a member of that community for a long time and he bought my my first Praxis Wetbench with the angled top. He lives in the Philippines. I think he and I both threw in our towels on the laptop trash around the same time, but he was a longtime Clevo overclocker and Prema supporter.

[Papusan]

5 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

One of the moderators at the old notebookreview forms kept banning him for some reason. I don't remember what his last username was but you would recognize it. He was a member of that community for a long time and he bought my my first Praxis Wetbench with the angled top. He lives in the Philippines. I think he and I both threw in our towels on the laptop trash around the same time, but he was a longtime Clevo overclocker and Prema supporter.

Our old good friend dspboys. Later temp00876. Here @sweepersc

[Mr. Fox]

4 hours ago, Papusan said:

 

 

Because the cpu run with less cores. You loose graphics score and total score with more cores running. For best total score you nneed disable a few baby cores on 13900K. And for higer graphics scores you have to disable even more cores but this will hamper the total score. Welcome to todays modern tech world.

Yes, this. ^^^

 

29 threads versus 32 is kind of the sweet spot for compromise on Fire Strike. If you use the Intel Legacy Gaming feature in the BIOS it will allow using Scroll Lock to turn off the Atom cores during graphics test, hit Scroll Lock again to toggle the Atom cores on again for the physics and combined tests.

[Mr. Fox]

5 minutes ago, Papusan said:

Our old good friend dspboys. Later temp00876. Here @sweepersc

That's right. Thank you. I was drawing a blank.

[Tenoroon]

Great video for all to watch, it's lengthy, but a worthwhile watch.