*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[Mr. Fox]

12 minutes ago, ryan said:

STOP!!

 

Your 1070 is breaking the 3060. 22k in firestrike graphics is what I get with a slight overclock. Many people run their 3060s with that level of performance. excellent

That is one of the reasons (in addition to BGA filth) we lost interest in laptops. You have to give up too much. Not worth it.

[ryan]

Its painful seeing pap get 22k with a midrange card from 8 years ago. But good for you guys being extremely good with technology in general. I just bought a crucial 4tb p3 plus for one of my laptops. Not sure if I should put it in my zenbookq or have 10tb total for my omen. Never thought in a million years I'd need more than 2tb but games like the forza series are pushing 150gb. At least now I can load all 400 games. Also I don't know if this is newb or what but when I debloat windows and nvidia drivers my performance goes down.

[Mr. Fox]

2 hours ago, ryan said:

Its painful seeing pap get 22k with a midrange card from 8 years ago. But good for you guys being extremely good with technology in general. I just bought a crucial 4tb p3 plus for one of my laptops. Not sure if I should put it in my zenbookq or have 10tb total for my omen. Never thought in a million years I'd need more than 2tb but games like the forza series are pushing 150gb. At least now I can load all 400 games. Also I don't know if this is newb or what but when I debloat windows and nvidia drivers my performance goes down.

If you tear up Windoze too much it does hurt performance. It doesn't make sense and I am not sure why, but it probably has something to do with service dependencies and maybe Windoze trying to heal itself and can't. It seems like the more bloated and loaded with trash Winduhz gets, the more adverse it becomes if you debloat too much. It's just a poopy piece of junk OS.

 

The best approach is to disable services in batches a few at a time and see how it affects your benchmark scores. If it goes up or stays the same, keep disabling services. If goes down, re-enable the last batch, then disable those in that batch one at a time and re-run your benchmarks to see if it is one service that needs to stay enabled.

 

Many third-party applications hurt performance worse. This is especially true of the crap software that comes from motherboard manufacturers, and companies that make fancy hardware like Corsair, NZXT, Razer, Roccat, Logitech and others. Even HWiNFO64 and RTSS are more harmful to performance than they used to be. The EC monitoring and DDR5 monitoring sensors in HWiNFO64 steal CPU clock cycles and system memory. I disable those sensors when benching or just close HWiNFO64. Same for RTSS. Both are fine for gaming, but you don't want them running if you are trying to improve benchmark scores.

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In case you haven't seen it yet, here is an excellent review from Brother @Rage Set. Nice job, bro.

 

Are you planning to continue using the air cooler on that 14900KS? Looks like it did an OK job running it stock with constrained performance.

 

Corsair 6500X Case – iCUE LINK RX RGB Fans Review

[Papusan]

3 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

If you tear up Windoze too much it does hurt performance. It doesn't make sense and I am not sure why, but it probably has something to do with service dependencies and maybe Windoze trying to heal itself and can't. It seems like the more bloated and loaded with trash Winduhz gets, the more adverse it becomes if you debloat too much. It's just a poopy piece of junk OS.

 

Exactly. Many debloat the OS so heavly that a normal vanilla Windows OS can perform better or equal. Quite a few people tink a tiny OS will perform much better than a non bloated OS because of the minimum of OS services running in the background... Thats wrong. You risk diminishing returns. I have already touched that topic with bro @jaybee83 a few months ago. When you shave you... You don't cut of your skin🙂 

 

Only Microsoft knows exactly which services/tasks in the operating system are dependent on each other to perform perfect. A minor change and you risk screw up your OS performance. Can be tiny change but it can or will effect the performance in a bad way.

 

Windows has become more of a mess. Old code paired with new one, code implemented for future features (you are the guinea pig for testing stability for the next OS moment features) but not in use... And with changes from sec/feature patch updates from one month to the next. Then back and forth... It kills the fun tinkering with OS. 

 

3DMark11 Physics - 42547 Points - Core i9 14900KS (8P) @ 6262MHz

https://hwbot.org/submission/5546633_papusan_3dmark11_physics_core_i9_14900ks_(8p)_42547_points

 

3DMark11 Physics - 43059 Points - Core i9 14900KS @ 6262MHz

https://hwbot.org/submission/5546792_papusan_3dmark11_physics_core_i9_14900ks_43059_points/

 

When bigger numbers is more important than the real performance. @ryan is less more or is more less?😎

 

3 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

In case you haven't seen it yet, here is an excellent review from Brother @Rage Set. Nice job, bro.

 

Are you planning to continue using the air cooler on that 14900KS? Looks like it did an OK job running it stock with constrained performance.

 

Corsair 6500X Case – iCUE LINK RX RGB Fans Review

 

 

Thanks for the heads up 🙂

 

[Raiderman]

For those that use AM5, and Msi @electrosoft here is the fix for the new bios and 8000mhz ram. Looks like the high voltage setting was broken.

 

https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/mpg-x670e-carbon-wifi-bios-7d70v1g1-bugged.396406/post-2255508

[Mr. Fox]

And, here is my shiny new Kubuntu 24.04 LTS installation. Working good.

[ryan]

ok. im going to try linux....iv'e had it. iv'e reinstalled windows about 3 times this week.

 

Ill just have to learn it, not going to support microsoft anymore, unless of course I cant play my games. I just got my 4tb p3 pretty big purchase for me 330 for a ssd is crazy. just about bought a 990 for 220 cad which is like 150 under msrp. glad I went with the P3 but honestly the teamgroup mp44 is likely the better buy, I think if anyones in the market for a 4tb drive and doesnt want to break the bank the mp44 is the only option.

 

moving games now., crossing fingers 6tb is enough for all my games....if not I guess ill have to get another 4tb drive...I have a t7 portable ssd drive but its not very fast and has issues when loading games unplugging and replugging. 

 

more Than snot I need a 8tb ssd but at 1300 I can buy a complete system.

 

if you guys see a system with a 4080-4090 on sale please let me know im in the market..

[Mr. Fox]

4 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

And, here is my shiny new Kubuntu 24.04 LTS installation. Working good.

 

1 hour ago, ryan said:

ok. im going to try linux....iv'e had it. iv'e reinstalled windows about 3 times this week.

 

Ill just have to learn it, not going to support microsoft anymore, unless of course I cant play my games. I just got my 4tb p3 pretty big purchase for me 330 for a ssd is crazy. just about bought a 990 for 220 cad which is like 150 under msrp. glad I went with the P3 but honestly the teamgroup mp44 is likely the better buy, I think if anyones in the market for a 4tb drive and doesnt want to break the bank the mp44 is the only option.

 

moving games now., crossing fingers 6tb is enough for all my games....if not I guess ill have to get another 4tb drive...I have a t7 portable ssd drive but its not very fast and has issues when loading games unplugging and replugging. 

 

more Than snot I need a 8tb ssd but at 1300 I can buy a complete system.

 

if you guys see a system with a 4080-4090 on sale please let me know im in the market..

I am glad to hear you're fed up with their bull hockey. I am installing Windows games as we speak. SteamOS is a Linux distro.

 

Stick with a Ubuntu derivative for the best compatibility. Ubuntu, Linux Mint, PopOS!, Kubuntu, etc.

 

See what I posted here a long time ago. Steam Proton Experimental is awesome.

And remember. You can install it alongside Windoze. It's doesn't have to be one or the other. Don't let yourself get frustrated. Take time to learn it and ask for help if you need it in one of the Linux treads. Lots of folks here ready to help.

 

 

Here is Quake II RTX. Just installed it.

  

On 5/31/2023 at 5:47 AM, Linux said:

Proton 8 has further enhanced and stabilized my gaming experience with Steam. Everything runs as good as with Windows. 😎

It really is good. People that says they are sticking with Windoze so they can play games haven't taken time to investigate Linux. Maybe it never occurred to them that SteamOS is Linux, LOL.

 

 

Crysis Remastered - RTX Enabled - High Settings ~275 FPS

[ryan]

woah thanks for that, your pretty passionate about linux And I see why. clean OS without the spyware crap and runs the bare minimum services, no suprises. back in the day LINUX was a hackers paradise, i'd imagine ethical hacking is still a thing but Im more interested in it for consistancy, not having to reboot windows every week because of malware or other things. Like I said a while ago my old boss when I was a kid swore by linux and tried getting me into it back in 2004. 

 

do you have a website that shows you what to install how and the basics, kinda like a install tut and getting started>? really need this 

 

thanks in advance Bro

 

I don't mind losing a bit of performance, but maybe their are some nice suprises like 4k running better.

 

4k linux vs 4k windows in crysis? any comparison

 

found this

 

[Papusan]

On 4/21/2024 at 11:00 PM, Papusan said:

EK under fierce fire.

 

On 4/24/2024 at 1:16 AM, Papusan said:

EKWB issues public apology regarding delayed payments

EKWB issues public apology regarding delayed payments

 

Exposing Corruption: EK's Prison Threats, Lawsuits, Dangerous Workplace, & Leaked Documents

 

Conclusion: EK Has Lost It

 

The leadership of this company is so out of touch that how this will end is uncertain. They need new peps on the top. But will the leaders that destroying this company step down and let more competent people lead the sinking ship? Hmmm, will see.

[Mr. Fox]

3 hours ago, ryan said:

do you have a website that shows you what to install how and the basics, kinda like a install tut and getting started>? really need this 

 

thanks in advance Bro

It's really little different than installing Windows. Download an ISO of Kubuntu 24.04 LTS here: https://kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/

 

Use Rufus to burn the ISO. I use the format for MBR or UEFI when creating the ISO. Choosing this option should use GRUB2 bootloader instead of systemd (GRUB is better). Rufus may tell you it needs to download a newer version of GRUB 12.X bootloader. Let it do so. It will be automatic. (You can use Balena Etcher instead of Rufus, but I personally prefer Rufus. I do not recommend Balena Etcher.)

 

This video has a quick overview...

 

 

This shows an installation walk-through. Choose the option for proprietary drivers and it will install your NVIDIA drivers, WiFi, etc. It may have some features for your specific laptop brand. Do a full installation, not a minimal installation, and it will have everything you need to get started with multimedia players, codecs, etc.

 

Choose a super easy password. I use 4 numbers and ignore the warning that it is not a complex password. This will be used for logon and for your admin (called sudo or root in Linux) password that you will have to enter whenever you do something that requires elevated rights. Keep it short and simple, like 0000 or 1111, or it will be annoying when you need to enter a password.

 

GRUB bootloader will allow you to load Windows or Linux at the boot menu. As you can see here, the four flavors of Windows installed on my system can be launched from this menu. Linux allows you to boot Windows and other OSes using GRUB. Micro$lop Windoze Boot Manager does not let you boot Linux. Are you surprised? No, me neither.

 

 

Once your install is finished, go to the software manager (Kubuntu uses "Discover Software Center" for the software library) and install Steam and GameHub. Linux Steam works and looks exactly like Windows Steam does. You can use your current Steam account. Configure Steam settings to use Proton Experimental.

 

 

I would also recommend installing Lutris. It has a bit of a learning curve, but it is a WINE front end. I use it for installing Cinebench.

 

 

Install GreenWithEnvy to control/overclock your NVIDIA GPU.

 

https://gitlab.com/leinardi/gwe#-how-to-get-gwe

 

To enable overclocking you have to run the command sudo nvidia-xconfig --cool-bits=24 in a terminal (like a command prompt).

NVIDIA X Server is the Linux version of NVIDIA Control Panel

 

[Mr. Fox]

10 hours ago, ryan said:

found this

 

Be careful believing what Linux noobs say. Also note the age of that video. There are some useful comments like a reminder to disable compositing.

 

Generally pay closer attention to experienced Linux users more than dabblers. Check this one. 

 

[ryan]

Id like to get a jump drive or use one I have to boot off that, kinda like a usb drive install. something confidential. I know its possible but Im having issues finding a tut on how to install to jumpdrive.

 

thanks a million for all that, im excited, watched the video it looks good

[aldarxt]

29 minutes ago, ryan said:

Id like to get a jump drive or use one I have to boot off that, kinda like a usb drive install. something confidential. I know its possible but Im having issues finding a tut on how to install to jumpdrive.

 

thanks a million for all that, im excited, watched the video it looks good

I'm pretty sure you can run Linux straight off the USB drive you burn the ISO image to. It gives an option to do a full install or just run without install. It's like you can go to any computer and plug in and run

[ryan]

I did it once before I think thats it...going to download something now..likely kubuntu. or I might wait need a faster jumpdrive, the ones I have are like 1 meg a second

[Mr. Fox]

2 hours ago, aldarxt said:

I'm pretty sure you can run Linux straight off the USB drive you burn the ISO image to. It gives an option to do a full install or just run without install. It's like you can go to any computer and plug in and run

 

1 hour ago, ryan said:

I did it once before I think thats it...going to download something now..likely kubuntu. or I might wait need a faster jumpdrive, the ones I have are like 1 meg a second

You can "try" Linux booting from the USB installer, but it is not fast, doesn't have GPU acceleration or persistent storage and software installation options. If you have a fast drive on a Type C or USB 3.X port I think you can install it to that type of drive but I have never had a reason to do it.

 

@ryanyou can install Linux to the same drive as Windows and the Linux installer will walk you through installing "side by side" with Windows. No need to have an extra drive. Windows and Linux will work together fine that way. The downside is if you reinstall Windows the Redmond Reprobates will ruin the ability to boot Linux and you will have to jump through some hoops to make Linux/GRUB bootable again. It won't hurt the Linux installation, just ruin the bootloader. (Thanks, Micro$lop, for being control-freak losers.) I'd recommend going that route if you don't have internal space for a dedicated Linux drive. It's not difficult and Linux won't ruin your Windows installation like Windows does to Linux. While you are learning the ropes with Linux you are going to want the ability to dual boot use and Windows sometimes or you will end up frustrated and abandon the effort.

 

If you are installing the 4TB SSD as a secondary drive you can carve out a 512GB space for Linux on that and during Linux installation tell Linux to boot itself from that drive, not the Windows drive and then Windows shouldn't mess with it.

 

If Windows screws up GRUB, there are ways to fix it.

 

[ryan]

I will check it out when I get a jumpdrive thats decent going to order one...

I just want something fast for the internet, youtube ect. I can't stand having a 2000 dollar laptop thats slow as molasses.

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

12 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Use Rufus to burn the ISO. I use the format for MBR or UEFI when creating the ISO. Choosing this option should use GRUB2 bootloader instead of systemd (GRUB is better). Rufus may tell you it needs to download a newer version of GRUB 12.X bootloader. Let it do so. It will be automatic. (You can use Balena Etcher instead of Rufus, but I personally prefer Rufus. I do not recommend Balena Etcher.)

 

1 hour ago, ryan said:

I will check it out when I get a jumpdrive thats decent going to order one...

I just want something fast for the internet, youtube ect. I can't stand having a 2000 dollar laptop thats slow as molasses.

This is what I was referring to. When you create the USB installer with Rufus, choose these options.

[ryan]

ok brother. I will do this now and check it out..

 

1 step away..700kbs download unusually slow

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, ryan said:

ok brother. I will do this now and check it out..

 

1 step away..700kbs download unusually slow

Yes, it was a slow download. Since it is a new release probably many downloads and system upgrades occurring.

[ryan]

new 4tb p3 plus crucial

 

after 2 weeks the ptm7950 is fairing better, 51c average with locks at 40fps and undervolted gpu and underclocked cpu.

 

got kubuntu installed on my crap flash drive, looks good. just an os....very clean looking and suprisingly its a gui i thought it was all terminal. thanks brother @Mr. Fox

 

alot to learn

[Reciever]

1 hour ago, ryan said:

my T7 SAMSUNG SSD is getting 31mbs typically its around 700...anyone know how to troubleshoot this, I installed samsung magician and updated firmware it seems the decrapifier debloater Fd my computer up right after I downloaded over 150 games.

 

update its getting 40mbs on my vivobook also...like wth this is so frustrating...neverending problems

Make a thread for that please. 

 

Thanks

[Mr. Fox]

This isn't supposed to work, but Lutris makes it so. Slightly lower score than Windows, but to be expected. My little Munchkin work PC isn't designed for this kind of thermal torment and it definitely thermal throttled, LOL.

[Mr. Fox]

OK now that I let the water in the 360 AIO cool down overnight and my office is not 82°F it's working much better. Cinebench R24 does not work as efficiently on Linux as R23 does. Very close to the same score in Linux and Windows with Cinebench R23. With R24 the clock speeds dip due to the Linux power management governor being too aggressive.

 

[electrosoft]

Stock Dell G15 13650HX / 4050 laptop.....fresh from Dell with the newest BIOS off my storage shelf....

 

"I think something is wrong with the laptop you loaned me to play Hogwarts"

 

"Why?"

 

"The fans go crazy and it locks up or shuts down when I'm playing sometimes"

 

I give it a basic Timespy run....yeah there's a touch of overheating going on.....🤣

 

Pulling up to ~115w

 

Incoming PTM7950 and UV on this hotbox...