Official Clevo X170SM-G Thread

[jaybee83]

16 hours ago, ThisMayBeYou said:

Hey everyone, my X170-SM has no options for XMP, only Custom and Default profiles are available. Can someone give me normal bios with Xmp settings. I used Dsnake unlocker, but I don’t have XMP setting

check and see if u maybe have additional mem options somewhere else in the bios. sometimes u have redundant memory and cpu tuning settings under different submenus.

otherwise, try and read out the xmp profiles of ur sticks in windows via software (make sure they actually have xmp 😉) and then set them manually via custom profile in bios.

[ViktorV]

2 hours ago, Snowleopard said:

Where do I find the instructions for the driver modifications?

 

There are a lot of guides on the net for modifying the Nvidia inf driver. Or you can use the Nvcleanstall program.

[Komputers-Best]

People, what is the most recent unlocked bios or the only one so far, no one has installed it for themselves? I saw a person installing RTX 3080 on the forum, he had to modify the radiator.

[Komputers-Best]

Who has tried installing a 3080 card?

[ViktorV]

6 hours ago, Komputers-Best said:

Who has tried installing a 3080 card?

I put 3060/3070/3080 in x170smg, I didn't modify the heatsink, I put the heatsink from x170kmg, they are compatible. You can unlock any original bios from Clevo using an unlocker, the last available bios was 1.07.04 if I'm not mistaken.

[FTW_260]

Rare owners of prema-bios for X170SM, tell me please - does it support Intel 11th gen?

[ViktorV]

14 minutes ago, FTW_260 said:

Rare owners of prema-bios for X170SM, tell me please - does it support Intel 11th gen?

on x170smg there is no support for 11 gen intel and I think it will not.

[Clamibot]

3 hours ago, FTW_260 said:

Rare owners of prema-bios for X170SM, tell me please - does it support Intel 11th gen?

 

Unfortunately no. Prema has not updated his firmware to support Intel 11th gen CPUs on this laptop.

[electrosoft]

23 hours ago, Clamibot said:

 

Unfortunately no. Prema has not updated his firmware to support Intel 11th gen CPUs on this laptop.

 

Confirmed. I even tried my old 11900k in my X170SM-G w/ the newest and final Prema and it was a no go.

 

 

[jaybee83]

On 11/22/2022 at 12:49 AM, electrosoft said:

 

Confirmed. I even tried my old 11900k in my X170SM-G w/ the newest and final Prema and it was a no go.

 

 

might be worth it to check with the rainbow master on this?

[electrosoft]

On 11/23/2022 at 4:13 PM, jaybee83 said:

might be worth it to check with the rainbow master on this?

 

I thought on the old forums he said adding 11th gen support was too problematic for the X170SM-G but maybe something changed since then? Go ahead and ask away. Worse case scenario we're in the same boat as now. 🙂

 

 

[Clamibot]

If 11th gen support hasn't been added, it wouldn't be a big deal since it's not really worth getting the 11900K over the 10900K. The latency increases really killed the IPC gains. As a result, both CPUs are pretty close in gaming performance, with the 11900K winning in some cases, but the 10900K winning in most cases. The 10900K is also undoubtedly the better productivity CPU as well, so it's the better CPU overall.

 

Had latency remained the same for the cache and across cores, the 11900K would be a killer gaming CPU despite the increased power requirements and lower core count. The idea seemed to be to sacrifice a few cores to significantly increase single core performance, but unfortuntely latency increases negated those gains as I said before, and most 11900Ks don't overclock very well. Sonething really went wrong with that process backport.

 

Also does anyone know if the 2 in 1 water/air hybrid cooler for this laptop performs any better than the modded zTecpc cooler on air only? It seems pretty interesting, but I'm not sure if it's really an upgrade on air cooling only vs the zTecpc modified heatsink. I'd much prefer a custom heatsink for this laptop with a giant unified vapor chamber for the CPU + GPU. Now that would be a big cooling upgrade!

[electrosoft]

It's been over a month and my X170SM-G is still down for the count with the defective 2080S. Zoltan got back to me from ZtecPC and Clevo said they have the card to source but it is taking forever to get it punched through and delivered.

 

I've been existing on my MSI GL66 Pulse 12700h/3070 for laptop use the last month or so. I've kinda adapted to it (what other choice did I have? heh).

 

On 11/28/2022 at 11:30 AM, Clamibot said:

If 11th gen support hasn't been added, it wouldn't be a big deal since it's not really worth getting the 11900K over the 10900K. The latency increases really killed the IPC gains. As a result, both CPUs are pretty close in gaming performance, with the 11900K winning in some cases, but the 10900K winning in most cases. The 10900K is also undoubtedly the better productivity CPU as well, so it's the better CPU overall.

 

Had latency remained the same for the cache and across cores, the 11900K would be a killer gaming CPU despite the increased power requirements and lower core count. The idea seemed to be to sacrifice a few cores to significantly increase single core performance, but unfortuntely latency increases negated those gains as I said before, and most 11900Ks don't overclock very well. Sonething really went wrong with that process backport.

 

Also does anyone know if the 2 in 1 water/air hybrid cooler for this laptop performs any better than the modded zTecpc cooler on air only? It seems pretty interesting, but I'm not sure if it's really an upgrade on air cooling only vs the zTecpc modified heatsink. I'd much prefer a custom heatsink for this laptop with a giant unified vapor chamber for the CPU + GPU. Now that would be a big cooling upgrade!

 

The CPU I dubbed the "Frankenchip" and rightfully so. Still, if you can get a good sample in there depending on use case it is an upgrade for sheer IPC gains for lower threaded uses.

 

The hybrid heatsinks are so cheap now and support both 2000 and 3000 series it might be worth it to order one just to play around.

 

 

 

 

[jaybee83]

On 11/28/2022 at 11:13 AM, electrosoft said:

 

I thought on the old forums he said adding 11th gen support was too problematic for the X170SM-G but maybe something changed since then? Go ahead and ask away. Worse case scenario we're in the same boat as now. 🙂

 

 

 

ah aight then, wasnt aware of that info @11th gen support being problematic 🙂 

[ssj92]

On 11/29/2022 at 12:10 PM, electrosoft said:

It's been over a month and my X170SM-G is still down for the count with the defective 2080S. Zoltan got back to me from ZtecPC and Clevo said they have the card to source but it is taking forever to get it punched through and delivered.

 

I've been existing on my MSI GL66 Pulse 12700h/3070 for laptop use the last month or so. I've kinda adapted to it (what other choice did I have? heh).

 

 

The CPU I dubbed the "Frankenchip" and rightfully so. Still, if you can get a good sample in there depending on use case it is an upgrade for sheer IPC gains for lower threaded uses.

 

The hybrid heatsinks are so cheap now and support both 2000 and 3000 series it might be worth it to order one just to play around.

 

 

 

 

Where can these heatsinks be found? 🙂 

[electrosoft]

59 minutes ago, ssj92 said:

Where can these heatsinks be found? 🙂 

 

Aliexpress: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256803333420894.html?ug_edm_item_id=3256803333420894&pdp_npi=2%40dis!USD!US %2436.00!US %2428.80!!!!!%402102e95716595787031711001ddfb2!!edm&edm_click_module=alg_product_l1r2_1375904380&creative_img_ind=1&tracelog=rowan&rowan_id1=aeug_edm_41180_1_en_US_2022-08-05&rowan_msg_id=elecCOWS_41180_%24faf182f289d145ae8182dcb08d720378&ck=in_edm_other&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa&_randl_shipto=US

 

But the prices have gone back up....drastically.

 

 

[Snowleopard]

On 1/31/2022 at 12:55 PM, electrosoft said:

Looking for the best and newest BIOS/EC and drivers for your X170SM-G? Use XMG's fantastic support network and drivers:

 

https://download.schenker-tech.de/package/xmg-ultra-17-idxul17m20/

 

Excellent post by @Clamibot for modded BIOS information (and Soundblaster issues):

 

 

Specs:
- Matte 17.3" 4K LCD with micro-LED Display 1000 nits (1080p 144hz, 1440p 165hz options)
- Up to 125W Intel Core i7 Desktop CPU (200w support) 10900k
- Up to 200W RTX 2080 Super
- Upgradable MXM Graphics
- Thunderbolt 3, HDMI, 3x USB-A + much more
- 4 Speakers + 2 subs
- 2x 230W Bricks
- Large bottom mesh intake
- Side vents and thick fans
- Side and back RGB lightning

 

 

 

@Mr. Fox Original Review:
 

 

I believe the bios unlocker is no longer available at that link. Does someone have it in another location for download?

[Snowleopard]

I never was a fan of Nvidia GPU's but with the x170smg I got the rtx2070 and right now AMD (ATI) GPU's have been in the news a lot about better performance per watt so i was wondering if there are any AMD / ATI GPU's that would be an upgrade over what Nvidia has for the 170-SM-G

 

[ssj92]

I haz joined the X170SM-G club 😎

[Clamibot]

8 hours ago, Snowleopard said:

I never was a fan of Nvidia GPU's but with the x170smg I got the rtx2070 and right now AMD (ATI) GPU's have been in the news a lot about better performance per watt so i was wondering if there are any AMD / ATI GPU's that would be an upgrade over what Nvidia has for the 170-SM-G

 

 

There sure are, but none that you can put in this laptop unfortunately.😞

 

You can use an eGPU with this laptop through the thunderbolt port, but I personally don't see a point in doing so. If You wanted to though, the 6700 XT is as powerful or more powerful as the 2080 Super depending on the game. Anything higher tier than the 6700 XT (6750XT, 6800, 6800 XT, and 6900 XT), is an upgrade over the 2080 Super.

 

3 hours ago, ssj92 said:

I haz joined the X170SM-G club 😎

 

Welcome to the club brother!

[Snowleopard]

Has anyone seen 64gb DDR4 modules? I could use 4 of them 😄

 

[electrosoft]

On 12/8/2022 at 6:42 PM, ssj92 said:

I haz joined the X170SM-G club 😎

 

Welcome Bro!

 

What model/spec did you pick up?

 

 

[ssj92]

2 hours ago, electrosoft said:

 

Welcome Bro!

 

What model/spec did you pick up?

 

 

I ended up with:

 

i5 10600K

8GB RAM

256GB SSD

1080p 144Hz display

RTX 2070 Super

 

I have 16GB RAM and 2x 512gb NVMe SSDs laying around I’ll add to the system. 
 

not looking to max it out since I wanna see what the 18” laptops coming out next year will pack. 

[jaybee83]

22 hours ago, ssj92 said:

I ended up with:

 

i5 10600K

8GB RAM

256GB SSD

1080p 144Hz display

RTX 2070 Super

 

I have 16GB RAM and 2x 512gb NVMe SSDs laying around I’ll add to the system. 
 

not looking to max it out since I wanna see what the 18” laptops coming out next year will pack. 

would u really be tempted in getting an 18 incher with full BGA? genuinely curious, not hating this time 😄 

[ssj92]

1 hour ago, jaybee83 said:

would u really be tempted in getting an 18 incher with full BGA? genuinely curious, not hating this time 😄 

If it has a 24-core 13900HX and a RTX 4090 Mobile then I’ll get it. I love the 18” form factor. I still have my M18xR1, M18xR2 and AW 18. 

 

im not getting the razer blade 18 as I’ve heard nothing but bad news regarding their quality/customer service. It’ll definitely be the alienware x18. If my x14 i got from black friday is any indication then I trust their 18 will be good. Every spec is sounding good from what I’ve heard 😉 just waiting to see if they put a subwoofer back in for audio. 

 

Every laptop next year is bga unless clevo releases a lga cpu + bga gpu 15” like they do sometimes.