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I tried a few. Thermalright, Bequiet, thermal grizzly. They can all last months and months, and after like 3-4 months the performance just fades a little bit but still okay. But when it eventually fails you lose that solid stability, and that day will always be a surprise visit out of the blue lol. The failure can be closing to desktop when gaming, or other random stability issues. Then you have to pull the chip and prep everything again with some Flitz and possibly sand paper if it’s really bad. This was one of the main reasons for selling my R-Batch. Now, I think Liquid Metal and ambient water is totally fine. But with 15C water it just fails really fast. Never seen a 13900K do that well before! Thats faster than a stock 14900KS 😂

This chiller helps a lot but not nearly as much as direct die does. With a rad only, my cpu would only be 10c warmer. So I could still run 5.9/4.8 easily and be 78-79C package on normal ambient water without a delid or direct die. I tested this on my R-Batch, and this SP108 has a really low 5.9 Vmin for a soldered chip, lower than my R-batch when it was soldered. You might even be able to hulk it to 6Ghz if you don’t mind 89-90C temps and higher voltage lol.

Yeah the maintenance is higher on Supercool or any direct die with daily chiller+LM. But its temps are just insanely good no doubt. 5.9Ghz would be 50C cpu package temps with my supercool in R23 using direct die. I considered thermal paste on direct die, but now I felt I’m going backwards now. Stock solder is supposed to be better than thermal paste 😁. The only thing direct die and Liquid Metal will give me is a 15C cooler CPU. And +100Mhz. I can run either of these KS chips, and my R-Batch at 6.0P/4.8E with no delid, and still stay in the 70’s on CPU package. I think that’s pretty good.

Yep I always ran 8400/8533 with tight timings it performs really good. But the main reason why was because my prior chip(s) could not run 8600 with tight timings. This chip will be worked up to a 8600 tight profile. As for moving away from direct die. I just don’t need it. Liquid Metal on 15C water daily doesn’t last very long. So it requires maintenance every 1-3 months. I can run either of these 14900KS chips at 5.9Ghz(8P) 6.2Ghz (2P) with a load voltage of (1.190 higher SP chip) OR (1.208V lower SP chip) The package temps are substantially warmer than direct die. But the CPU is still only 67-68-69C like this in Cinebench. The solder and my mount is good for a very very long time. Chiller and Liquid Metal daily usage breaks down and etches badly and doesn’t hold up worth a dang. I have always had this problem, and I’m just tired of dealing with it.

I had to share this! I have been trying to run such settings for some bit now. DDR5 8600 with only 1.400 vdd/vddq set in bios!! (NOT 1.450vdd, NOT 1.435VDD but only 1.400V! 🥲 (All done on my G.Skill 8200 sticks) Its crazy how a really good IMC directly determines how good your ram is and how low the ram voltage can be set. This is such a nice little chip. I love it. Glad to be back on solder. 😎

Pretty nice run @Mr. Fox I get exactly 8,020 with my 4080 Super on Vulkan API.

I appreciate the kind words! I’m not testing anymore chips. I’m absolutely good with this one. Finding one better could happen, but also having a similar IMC like this one does probably won’t happen, and also no SA bug. Calling it quits on anymore KS chips lol. Im going to look in to the free game. Thanks!

After the “Silicon Gods” saw me having a blast with a SP99, they were furious and had no choice but allow an SP108 to slip through I suppose 🤷‍♂️. (I really feel like if I had been anxiously awaiting what their SP rating would be, or overly worried about it, I doubt either would have been very good though) But I really didn’t give it much thought. I was going to test about (3-4) 14900KS all for fun. And maybe keep the most well rounded one. EDIT: The chip runs DDR5 8600 with only 1.450vdd. It passes a quick (3 cycle) testmem5, with 131k tREFI, very surprised about this.

This is all pics of the 2nd 14900KS I got from Amazon today. Was pretty surprised. I honestly did not care what SP it was. No SA bug, great IMC, and nice P/E cores.

Make sure to test it with Vulkan API, it scores higher in Vulkan. 🤷‍♂️ Not sure why.

Hey you Don’t call my SP99 a junker! Thats my baby! JK!! It’s a total junker 🤣 Yeah this SP108 ain’t bad it doesn’t have a SA bug like the SP99.

This is the SP108. The vfcurve img is the link below. 5.9 is 1.378v https://imgur.com/YZcsE5M

I think I got lucky! My 2nd 14900KS from Amazon was a SP108. 😂

I am doing a little 14900KS binning for fun. I’ve got to say though, I’m impressed by the SP99 KS chip lol. Insanely good IMC its an MCSP 82, very strong P Cores with 5.9+ of course, It could not touch my R batch which to this day will still do (5.7Ghz (8P) (6.0Ghz 2P)/4.4E XMP 8200@1.110V load (Even while re-lidded) and 238 watts R23. Anyways, I have another 14900KS that will be here tomorrow. And if it has a weak IMC, I’m going to proudly keep the SP99 chip which I just can’t fault for a second it’s a beast of a performer. I was so impressed that the SP99 could run DDR5 8400 (262k tREFI) with less than 1.400V VDD/VDDQ. And also hold down 5.9P-6.2P@1.208V load. I’m okay if the chip doesn’t have ground breaking P/E cores. I can’t really recommend a 14900KS if someone has an AIO cooler though. Maybe if it’s some crazy good chip. The thing is, a 14900K or 14900Kf will more than likely run 5.7 or even 5.8Ghz with less load voltage/load power and less load heat. So this makes a KS completely useless with weak cooling since they are literally binned to run for 5.9+ ONLY. Hence why you have all of these bad reviews of people hating on them saying it’s worse than their K/KF. 😎 I’m wondering how many returned KS chips there are that were actually probably strong lol.

I have used the Cryofuze Ultra numerous times, and I swear by it. It really works "Almost" as good as Thermal Grizzly Extreme (the pink stuff) If I do not have Thermal Grizzly Extreme, I will use that Coolermaster stuff any day.

How much does a system like this sell for? I love it. Would be perfect for my 12 Y/O daughter.

Hey, I just responded to your message. Only selling to get back to basics, and go back to soldered chips. I have a chiller and Liquid Metal doesn’t last me very long with a daily 15c water temp. Also, I’m kinda bored with the chip. Might seem crazy but, I have explored every alternative with it. I’m literally ram testing a SP99 unexplored (14900KS) and having a blast right now finding new unexplored roads 🤣. Nothing wrong with my R batch, but I’ve just done it all and tried it all on my setup.

I think a RTX4080 laptop is pretty sweet! I would want a 1080P or 1440P monitor though since they are 12GB VRAM. With DLSS and Frame Gen, it would absolutely rip! Plus, with a smaller screen like that pixel density would be really really great. Plus, the lower the power the better and the higher your cpu will boost and the more frames you’ll get. Very impressed with this @Mr. Fox 6.0P/4.8E/5.0R on this SP99 the ram is at 8400 XMP @1.400V and maxed out 262k tREFI. Passes all preliminary ram testing so far. I am a little taken back by this CPU. 🤣 Also, R23 peaked at 355 watts in normal priority with 6.0P/4.8E/5.0R with no delid at all. Another WOWZA for sure. vMIN was 1.290 (78C) package temps, I am a little surprised it even runs Cinebench R23 like this. Was looking for just a random CPU to use, I am trying to get away from direct die and go back to soldered CPU's since I have a chiller anyways.

Right but, using my cooling setup, not many chips can run 6Ghz with no delid at 1.270V. This chip can definitely do it! And it’s a turd on top of all that 😂. I thought that was pretty astounding. This chip has top end GRUNT! SP99 or not. It’s still good lol

Ouch lol! I thought it was pretty good @Papusan for a low dog SP99. It runs 6Ghz right out of the box with no delid at all. I can’t fault that 1.270V@78c so many chips could not dream of that though, 6Ghz with no delid? This one does it! she is a great scaler 🤣. Just testing for the lowest vmin, in that case we don’t need to increase the E-Cores they are already 4.5E stock. This chip is 100% solid for a SP99. It’s going to run 5.9P/4.7E/5.0R easy or 6.0P/4.7E/5.0R. The IMC is also looking good too. While I want to pick on the poor SP99 KS, it runs amazingly well. And I cannot fault it. 🤷‍♂️

No my other chip is fine. I really need a non delidded cpu for a regular build though. I’m thinking about going back to regular waterblock/soldered CPU’s since I run a chiller. I was curious, and It seems the P-Cores on the SP99 14900KS are really really good. 5.9@1.208V and 6.0V@1.270V.

The worst 14900KS is actually pretty darn good? Testing 14900KS (SP99 Low Dog) The results will surprise you. (CHIP IS NOT DELIDDED)

We just finally closed on our home construction loan. But we still have a little ways before we are actually moved in. Should be November this year when we get the certification of occupancy. We have to wait for the new home to be ordered and built. It’s already ordered but this building process takes 4 months. Next step is clearing the lot (This lot is nothing but trees and woods 0.997 acres), then of course they will level the ground and make a concrete pad for the home to sit on. We are only clearing the minimum amount of trees to make a driveway, and for our house. The privacy is going to be nice. The house is a full Sheetrock double wide. The closing process was very tough though. We nearly didn’t get the land. So many random things came up. I’m glad that’s over with though. Now it’s just a waiting game for our home to be built.

Hey everyone, long time no see! I seriously lost total interest in computers lately for a little while. I was only using my system for work and gaming. Like most normal people I suppose lol 😆 but after re-doing my Supercool direct die mount I’ve reeled my self right back in that rabbit hole.

I'm done binning on LGA1700. I almost ended up with a 14900KS. But just decided to just be happy with my R batch. It runs great at 6.1P/4.9E I have been running this speed for about a week now daily. And I have just forgotten all about it. Using a manual SVID of 1.395V with LLC5 in the bios. Still have not stepped on it with heavy voltages. I have no doubt that 6.2 can be done with 1.300+ load V-core. But, staying in the 1.200's load range is a little better long term.