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Probably easier in Europe. I’m on long summer vacation so I haven’t checked much about it. But this company offer a lot good things. Germany companies have a lot good engineering so…. Maybe worth a try. Regardless, buying things from other countries cost a bit more if you don’t find it in the main sales webpages where you live. If I order I probably have to add at least 50% on top of everything.
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I wonder how DDR5 will function in next gen AMD platform. Still a huge disaster for Intel. We all are Guinea pigs for this new tech. Maybe it will be better on older platforms as times goes but I guess they’ll put more (all) work in gen 2 DDR5 platforms (Raptor lake and Intel). Good blessings to all the new coming AM5 platform buyers. But AMD won’t learn anything of the miserable things from Intel. They need to learn it their own hard ways. And it won’t be pretty l. Hail to “new tech”! One more year with sucked and screwed up tech. At least my setup worked well l before I went on summer vacation. Don’t change what’s works! -
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https://videocardz.com/newz/gpu-price-crash-in-china-geforce-and-radeon-cards-now-sold-for-20-under-msrp-flagship-models-at-38 In last week alone, the flagship RTX 3090 Ti model has been sold for 9499 RMB (1415 USD), which is 38% under MSRP (14999 RMB). A bit lower, but still significant reduction applies also to RTX 3090, which can now be found for as little as 8498 RMB (1266 USD), almost 29% under MSRP. Pay EVGA well above 2200$ for their 3090Ti Kingpin is crazy. This flagship graphics card will compete with next gen sub 600$ 4070(Ti) cards (coming 2022/23). Not even on 4080 performance level. Or better say slightly above a midrange card as 4070. And with the 2500$ bundle with their PSU you’ll get yesterday’s power adapter. Yep, I hate bad deals equal as bad as throwing my money down the drain for useless Trashbooks. Happy I don’t need a new card yesterday. Even then I wouldn’t jump on it. The 3090 isn’t worth a cent above 850$ as I see it now in July soon Aug (aka we still pay 50% premium above its worth for a 2 years old graphics card). And I’ll stop there. Because the 3090Ti is even a worse deal, this long into the summer. Not many days and we are into the fall and even more disgusting weather in Norway. Talked with my sons home. 7.2C outside and with nice cold flooding rain. Can’t beat disgusting? Or can we? Nvidia, AMD (and their greedy partners) is equal bad as Norwegian weather. Let them burn in with all their 3000/6000 series cards. And I hope also the miners and scalpers loose loads of money. I like it when justice prevails 🙂 Maybe Path tracing will help Nvidia sell 40xx series at premium (new fancy tech sell)? Let it go one year after release and then push hard as they did for RT? A lovely way to push you from 40xx series with “low Path tracing performance” to 50xx series cards. https://www.techspot.com/article/2485-path-tracing-vs-ray-tracing/ ”Every few years, it seems like there's an amazing new technology with the promise of making games look ever more realistic. We've had shaders, tessellation, shadow mapping, ray tracing -- and now there's a new kid on the block: path tracing” -
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Nvidia was smart enough to release 3080@10GB as their 4K gaming cards for an ok price (msrp). A nice way try lure people into next gen cards once similar cards (for 4K) is out from 40xx series. Exactly as they do for laptops (castrate the cards to push you over on next gen). Not so sure the next new tricks will help when miners is gone and people have less money in their pockets. Hope many buy used cards as 3080ti/4090 to stop price increase for Ada. All they can do then is offer 4090 cards on this side of Christmas. And they just can’t offer middle range cards if the web is flooded with used cards. Maybe a nice punch from AMD this fall also will help as well on MSRP price increase. If the gamers playing their game correct then we will see Nvidia will begging you to buy their new cards. As for me, I have skipped last gens cards (only used old cards so no profits from my pocket). Hope I will be in minority buying new cards this fall/spring 2023 🙂 Let the bloodbath start. Rather before than later, LOOL Wouldn't it be nice with a 40% drop in new sales of cards? I’m sure this will help staggering greed. -
DTRs has reached dead end. 99.999% of all laptops is fully BGA nowadays. Aka with soldered on Cpu and GPU. Some OEMs even offer people soldered on ram and wifi. Regardless if it’s 13, 14, 15 or 17 inch laptops. Next step will be soldered on storage. Dell have already tested out this on their pc products. This is all you get for laptops nowadays.
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Today’s blooming Joke. Tomorrow’s Intel processors may get 3 different cores. One of those 3 is the baby’s babysitter core, LOOL @Ashtrix Imagine 8+16+16 cores. That will be 40 cores and 48 threads. But a tragedy in thread count due all the E-cores. A fantastic leap in core counts. S why not just scrap the few P-cores and instead fill the silicon up with only small E-cores? If they started use LP E-cores they could probably cram in a lot more cores. Wouldn’t it be nice have a real Intel Threadripper variant as mainstream desktop processors? They could even offer it for laptops. The tech adoption from Smartphones into desktops/laptops has to stop. And AMD is tempted to do the same as well. Unisex can be nice but not this messed up tech for computers. https://www.sweclockers.com/nyhet/34572-intel-meteor-lake-till-barbara-far-tre-olika-karnor ”It is also the first time that Intel divides the energy-efficient cores into two different variants, where one is referred to as "LP E-Core". It is possible that LP stands for low power and that Intel takes another leaf from ARM and the mobile manufacturers' book for a hybrid configuration with three different sized cores. However, the diagrams only show information about the portable series. How the configuration can be for the stationary variants remains to be seen” -
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All is up to Nvidia. If they are empty of 3000 series chips they will push out 40xx series chips. They don’t run charity. They run a huge business and need to show results for their shareholders. One of the reasons they probably kill of 3080@12GB cards and forcing you to buy their more expensive 3080 Ti cards. Some old info I heard before… They will offer 30xx series cards together with 40xx series cards. Can’t see this will be the outcome now, because the miners isn’t a problem anymore. They will probably have enough new cards for the gamers. Sell of the old and go with the new to compete with next gen AMD graphics cards. -
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All is up to AMD. Can’t see Intel into this race. And expect two years cadence for Nvidia’s gen cards. If you can see what I see… Wait for 4090 ti and you’ll risk loose nearly half or 1/3rd of the arc lifespan. High competition means Nvidia will split up their high end and release their best every year. First 90 then 90 ti. Not sure if this is to the better or not. At least not for AMD or Nvidia’s userbase. You’ll lose 1/2 of the arc lifespan. Exactly as yesterday and today’s Jokebooks. No difference between Jokebooks and desktops forwards. The big winner will be Nvidia, AMD and the OEMs. Not he buyers!! And I don’t bother count in Intel. They are even too late for the mining crazyness. -
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Yep, driver mess from Intel is today’s “word”. Exactly as I expect forwards from them. Maybe Intel also should have waited with own discrete graphics cards until after next gen Nvidia/AMD graphics cards relase? Aka use a second year for driver optimization? I can clearly see why they didn’t want to launch their new higher end cards with all their weird driver problems. Why not just put the money into iGPUs and continue tune drivers? The CPU package is already filled with that filthy. But, as you can see, they can’t even do that right. https://www.tomshardware.com/news/edge-chrome-browsers-can-lag-on-alder-lake-pcs-due-to-gpu-driver-bug ”Intel has admitted a graphics driver bug that can cause severe lagging of Chromium-based web browsers on some of the systems that use the company's 12th Generation Core Alder Lake processors with UHD Graphics 770 integrated GPU. The blue giant recommends updating software, changing settings, or switching to an SSD to resolve the issue” Btw… May I smell same for 4090 Ti as it was for 3090 Ti ? Hope EVGA make an difference this time vs 3090 ti and release a water block for their Ti Kingpin cards right in time before we see 5090 pop up 🙂 “Nvidia RTX 4090 may push 3 GHz and RTX 4090 Ti to debut later than expected as new details about Nvidia's "Lovelace" GPUs surface” https://www.notebookcheck.net/Nvidia-RTX-4090-may-push-3-GHz-and-RTX-4090-Ti-to-debut-later-than-expected-as-new-details-about-Nvidia-s-Lovelace-GPUs-surface.633089.0.html -
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If you saw special in my added picture in bottom I also have K5 i tubes. But still prefer pads where it fits. All depends what’s your usage/and fits. Pad’s is always better if everything fits well. At least my experience with both stuff. And have both in hands isn’t an bad idea. -
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Seen this? And bro @Ashtrix isn’t it amusing? Lower temps make magic…. “the chip netted only a 2.7% increase in performance at the highest level” https://www.tomshardware.com/news/msi-kombo-strike-lowers-power-draw-temps-on-ryzen-7-5800x3d And it could be AMD want to milk more…. https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-might-release-and-add-ryzen-5-5600x3dryzen-9-5900x3d-(x3d)-procs.html -
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I won’t jump on Ryzen chips. But what Intel offer with Raptor lake is silly. They don’t even want to offer fully PCIe 5 drives support for the gamer kids. Only more of those power efficient e-cores. I expect many will jump on AMD due Intel’s greed and stupidity. I don’t even know what’s worse… greed or stupidity! But both together has to be worse. Low cores consumer chip? 16+8 is many cores, bro Fox HaHa if I still can count…. This means 24 cores. Magic! -
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LOOL. ALL is a absolute single threaded performance. Yep, higher memory speed for single threaded performance. Can’t beat that. Intel know how to sell in performance to compete with next gen Ryzen chips. A very minor upgrade to make ready for 14th gen chips and new forced MB upgrade. At least you can re-use your DDR5 sticks. “Meanwhile, Intel's next-generation CPUs will gain support for DDR5-5600 memory, which will boost the processors' single-thread performance” https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-raptor-lake-leaked-slide-confirms-ddr5-5600-more-pcie-lanes And you get those wimpy small baby cores together with the real Raptor cores in a single processor, LOOL -
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With the right tools you can do the cleaning so often that you don’t need have to do a full tear down of hardware due stucky dirt that can’t be removed with an air cleaner. I still smoke cigars so cleaning up before the disaster happens is mandatory. Yep, easier clean up while the dust is minimal. You save a lot time do it this way. -
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Here’s the air duster I bought. And as already mentioned… I really like the Gelid Extreme GP 12w/mk pads. Hence you see they in the picture. Sorry no Crocs in that pict bro @electrosoft 🙂 I think it’s this one. Of course with 240v E.U connector for our type AC connection. I mean I paid around 50$ for it. https://www.itdusters.com/product/xpert/ -
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I don’t like use air cans because of all the water it constrains. And it’s very expensive here. My son love this air duster when he sometimes visit old papa with his laptops. Cleaning etc graphics cards is very easy with this tool. Same for fans, filters and water radiators. You can use it for almost everything 🙂 -
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I use one for cleaning similar like this. Worth every penny. Last several years https://www.itdusters.com/product/compucleaner/ -
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Can add in. Don’t go with the high performance pads as 17w/mk if the laptop has a awful heatsink (bad pressure). Softer lower wattage pads often beats the harder high performance pads as l already mentioned. Highest thermal conductivity pads is more expensive as well. Aka wasted money. I have good experience with the slightly cheaper Gelid Extreme 12w/mk pads. -
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Happy 4th July to all my U.S friends🤩 -
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Intel make a fool of themselves. Optimize for benchmarks. I wonder how far they want to go to complete in 3D mark benchmarks bs Nvidia’ and AMD. And I expect a driver mess long time forwards. For now, Intel’s APO only affects TimeSpy and Port Royal tests. With the previous driver the A380 scored 5241 points in TimeSpy Graphics test, whereas with the new driver and APO disabled the same card scores 4449 points, that’s a decrease of 15%. https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-arc-gpus-lose-up-to-15-performance-in-3dmark-timespy-test-with-advanced-performance-optimizations-disabled Read the comments section. Maybe exactly the buyers Intel want. Intel’s lead graphics designer Raya should be fired. He ruin Intel’s reputation. Yep, driver mess from Intel is today’s “word”. Exactly as I expect/expected. Maybe Intel should have waited with graphics cards until after next gen Nvidia/AMD graphics cards? And of course they didn’t want launch a high end card wit all their problems. Why not just put all their money into iGPUs? The CPU package is already filled with that filthy. https://www.tomshardware.com/news/edge-chrome-browsers-can-lag-on-alder-lake-pcs-due-to-gpu-driver-bug -
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I remember bro Phoenix talked nice about Panda. That’s a long time ago now. In the older NBR. It seems it’s still is a good choice even nowadays. Nice some companies still make something you can use. And they are in minority, bro Fox. Thanks for showing it 🙂
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As you know. I bench a lot and have Eset Nod32 installed mostly all time. But my benches is still ok. Panda maybe is an option but my long time use with Eset is hard to get rid of (used it many years without screw up). M$ Defender is a ticking bomb regarding performance impact and they change this bloat too often. Maybe I could get even better scores removing everything but my main OS’s is used for everything. It’s a choice between pest and cholera. I use a triple bot (win 7, 2019 LTSC and 2021 LTSC as main OS). I could of course make a second triple OS more cleaned/no Av). More is better, isn’t it? At least sometimes, LOOL 🙂 But not if you add in Defender or other huge AV suites. Still nice you tested it properly. Panda could be a good choice.
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Nvidia’s greed have no limits. Yep, 4000 gen cards will show up later in the year but this is done to increase profits. Another consideration in NVIDIA's decision is that the RTX 3080 Ti costs $1,089, leaving less room in the pricing range for the 12GB RTX 3080 to coexist with the Ti and 10GB variants. According to NVIDIA, this means that users may be enticed to pay more for an RTX 3080 Ti instead of a 10GB RTX 3080 because there are no 12GB options. https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/nvidia-seems-to-halt-producing-the-12-gb-rtx-3080.html i hope the market will be flooded with mining cards and that a lot people buy used than newer cards. Foundry TSMC states prices of graphics cards and processors will increase by 9% By Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 07/01/2022 09:29 AM | 43 comment(s)] PC component prices are returning to normal now that the epidemic and crypto meltdown have passed, but it does not appear that this will be a sure thing in the near future. The cost of graphics cards and processors might increase by up to 9 percent in 2023, according to TSMC. Read more -
I will ride long on my Clevo P870, my Clevo W860 and my wife’s cheap laptop she used for work. After that I will buy a sub 300$ laptop for on the go. No need for anything other than this. I won’t support greedy and lie’s coming from the laptop oems/Nvidia’s graphics solutions for laptops. And I will put money on my monster desktop build. Nothing come close do it this way.