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I have the full metal Apex backplate that replace Intel’s ILM plate. And from what I know the bending fix from Alphacool doesn’t help much on my block(even with adding the bending fix etc from Grizzly). Remember I also could run higher voltage vs temp before. It’s most likely the block I have. I just can’t wait 1 months for special parts that may not help. I need a another block. But only God know how a new block works on Raptor lake. The XPS blocks flatness is amazing but need perfect flat IHS. And the fin’s in the block may or may not be optimal for 13/14th gen (wrong desiged jet plate for newer gen chips). + it’s already confirmed that the XPS block has some very high flow restrictions. A very nice block if you svap out to different setups. Edit. Here's the QD fittings from AC. It seems restrictive for the water flow. I think the inner diameter is too small/cramped + the design for these QDC's will restrict the water flow more than from other higher premium QDC's. Removed the fittings from the tube. So no more chance to drain the loop in a proper way. Will get a drain plug instead for QDC fittings when I find out what type block I will go for ( much better solution). The last length of black tube went as replacement. Aka 1 cm tube left from the roll with the black variant 🙂 I have some lengtht of clear tubes but that would destroy the "all black" finish.

Yep, I know that the newer Corsair block is well suited for 12th gen due its cold plate. But who knows how it will do with 13th gen. And we have variances already today for IHS flatness/concave/convexity.

It’s the cheaper QD fitting from Alphacool. I’m sure it hamper the flow due it’s design. Dual pumps help massively on flow rate. Even 90 C degrees bends will hamper the water flow. Yep, much of the problem lies on the water block that’s not designed for newer processors. And Intel’s bending mess doesn’t make it any better. You even get variances on the flatness within several mountings.

Yep, I don’t like the Velocity2 block mounting mechanism. Very stupid design because you are very limited to socket. But it’s cool better than any Optimus blocks. And Optimus blocks will be very expensive here home. Add 35% premium on top of what you have to pay in U.S. Maybe there is other options that could fit. And who knows what Intel will do with its IHS for Raptor lake (they know about the bending). Maybe they make some improvements for the IHS. And then you have 14th gen next with new socket. What a mess.

The cooling setup is as it should be (I cut down the tube lenght from pump to block to make it prettier). But the temps isn't what I expected. I can't run CBR-20 +5.5GHz anymore due higher temp vs voltage. There has to be one of 3. The waterblock, the cheapo quick disconnection that restrict flow massively or the pump. I can't pin pont who is the culprit. But it's weird if this is the pump. I know Igors lab strruggle with the Alphacool XPS block on the newer 1700 platform (and the results wasn’t much better with the bend socket fix from Der8auer). I have seen many reviews with 12900K with one cores that run much lower temp than rest of the P-cores. I have changed paste 4 or 5 times. Not much change to make the 1 core more equal the rest of the P-cores/or make the rest of the cores running colder. What I see is the E-cores change a bit. The last paste application even made the two e-core package to differnciate more in temps. THe IHS is flat when out of the socket and I use the newer full metal AlphacoolApex backplate. Difficult to measure IHS flatness when it’s mounted in the chassis. One thing for sure... The XPS block is old and not a perfect match for socket 1700 processors. A few of many applications... From another mount Have used x-cross, sausage application recommended by Igorslab, as well full spread. Tested with less and more paste. And with less and more pressure on the screws. The main difference is the E-cores temp spread. The P-cores not so much. I will try remove the Quick dissconnection (empty the system). Next will be see if I get a better/different cooling block. But that will net me $180 and it will takes some time. The Alphacool look alike D5 water pump have less water flow vs EK D5 pumps but have a higher hread pressure (tests show it's on level or even beat org EK D5 pump regarding cooling capacity). So I can't think in my mind that the pump is too weak. Or maybe the added 480 mm rad will restrict the water flow.

Looking good bro Johnkss. Guru3D have just posted review of the 011 Dynamic Evo on main page.... Review: Lian Li O11 Dynamic Evo chassis By Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 09/02/2022 11:08 AM We’re checking out the Lian Li O11 DYNAMIC EVO, a successor of the O11 Dynamic chassis, which we reviewed four years ago. The Lian Li O11 Dynamic EVO appears to have changed very little from the original. You can now install a 280mm radiator in the side location, and there are mounts for eleven (but nine are provided in the bundle) storage drives rather than six. Read the review here. Will do bro Fox

Thanks bro Fox and @electrosoft In the older days I was near to buy it myself. But prefered custom water cooling and Phase change. But still a innovation in the older days. A lot better option than old days air coolers. Yep, bigger the better. Maybe I didn't see or hear it... I miss info about what thicness radiators you can use in the chassi (alone or in combo with severals). See it this way. A single 60 mm thick 480 rad have almost same cooling area as two thinner 30mm 480's. And if you go for thicker rads you need fans in push and pull for all (thicker radiators with only puhs or pull will perform worse than an equal thinner model). And this takes a lot space in the chassis as well🙂 There is nothing about it on Coolermasters webpage https://www.coolermaster.com/catalog/cases/full-tower/haf-700-evo/#specifications This is a major problems when we talk about reviews/reviewers. They need to go more into the deep of the products. Loads of Ugly from Nochtua.... Wish I lived in U.S then you all could get them for free😀 And the fun part is still left Those 3 babies will save my day @electrosoft 🙂

You can buy stands for the radiator and put it on top of your case. Or just buy an Mora as bro Fox talk about. But you pay premium (sub 500$) for a system like this below. And I don't think you get the performance you hope for... https://www.performance-pcs.com/water-cooling/external-cooling-system/exos-2-5-ex2-1055-cooling-system-aluminum-no-nozzles-ex2-1055.html Edit. Maybe some of you remember this one? Zalmam Reserator… 20 years old (nor used) and on sale on the Norwegian used market https://www.finn.no/bap/forsale/ad.html?finnkode=261502425&alertType=ss&finnMail=agent&stored-id=57532357 Guru3d had a review of it. Enjoy older times folks. LianLi with the Reserator 1 https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/zalman-reserator-1-plus,1.html There shouldn't be a big difference. I mean Linus Tech have tested with push and pull and all weird combos + throw in a lot things/clothes in the case and the temps was still almost the same. The tubes is up. But I can't say I have the big trust in one of the two rotatable 90°compression fittings on the top radiator. One of them feels a lot more loose vs the other when I touch it. We'll see how it goes. I need to follow that one the first days. But 3,hours run on the pump and no leak so far. So God night. 9:04 AM here so I need to find the bed, HaHa And no bling bling. All black 🙂

Only Nvidia know the date. Different rumors pop up everyday ... GeForce RTX 40 launch date could be pushed back as Nvidia is reportedly preparing the RTX 4090 Ti with an "exaggerated" cooler design Nvidia may be planning to delay the launch of the GeForce RTX 40 GPUs if a new rumor from the prominent leaker @harukaze5719 is to be trusted. If the delay happens, it can possibly be due to deteriorating market conditions for GPU's... Intel your our Arc is already sinking. And this vs soon EOL graphics from your competitors... Why continue produce it? Intel Arc A380 Review: Great for Video, Weak for Gaming By Jarred Walton published 2 days ago Intel needs more than an Alchemist to save this sinking Arc

Thanks for the info bro @Ashtrix. The ugly colored Noctua fans is 3000 rpm versions. And of course they still come only in Black and with (brown anti vibration rubber). And not very cheap. Even more expensive if you on top need to ordere it from webshops from other countries (add 25% tax on the units you bought, shipping and the border tax handling - Tax always on top). Buy black anti vibration rubber to remove the brown mess from Nochtua will add more costs. Maybe Noctua does this to milk even more $$$ because they know some (many) hate the brown color? Why not offer both colors or just black rubbers on all their fans? Maybe it would cost them 50 cent (either add it on the cost or take it from their profits). How they do it doesn't matter. Just do it. Whats wrong with Corsairs engineers? How is this possible? Drunk when they was on job? The fan space on the rear/back side of the chassis is meant for both 120 and 140 mm fans. And this is what you get.... You'll need to use plastic strips for holes on the upper fan'. And why pop/weld on the 3.5" HD tray to the chassis? Why not use normal screws? To save further on costs? This reminds me about the laptop OEM's that weld on the Cpu/GPU on the MB: This to cut cost. They also cut down the cost with offfering two less of the 2.5" ssd trays. There is space for 8 of them but you'll only get 6 of them. How much did Corsair save on this? 4 bucks? I checcked up some of my old parts inventory from sub +- 2000's and I finally could find some UNC 6-32 screws for the EK radiator. From my findings... I have a few radiators and from 3 or 4 manufacturers. And of course they don't follow same screw spec standard. And EK have changed to the M3 standard for their radiators. Before or around 2020 they used UNC 6-32 screws. So its important to mark the plastic bag with what type screws you have if you have some leftovers. You never know when you'll need them. Lack of needed parts ain't fun.

Jep, enough space for fans in push and pull also for the big boy in front 🙂 I still can't grasp why Noctua jumped on poo brown colors. A pretty disgusting color. I need to cover hide the ugly brown color from Nochua with a nice black tape. Same for the ugly blue text on the top rad @electrosoft @Mr. Fox 🙂

Fun project. Even one of the biggest chassis has to be picked into pieces to be able to fit some bigger/thicker radiators. 1000D is damn nice and big chassis and with a lots of space but fail if you want add in thicker/bigger radiators for best cooling. At least on the top mounting. Hence you need to do some modification’s for this chassis. But in the front there is enough space for 2x480 80mm thick rads with fans in push and pull. If I went with slimmer 45 mm rads in front I would probably be able to so without major changes for the top mount. Or just scrapped fans in push and pull. Push and pull is probably overkill for 45 mm rads thats placed on top, but I have to do the mod on top anyway, so.... Hope for 2x480 80 mm rads in front. And 1x420 45mm on the top. All push pull. Later if I get a water cooled GPU I will put the GPU radiator in front/or reuse one of the 480 mm in front for the GPU. This way so the Cpu and Gpu both benefits from colder air. The 420 mm rad on top will be connected to the Cpu loop as the cpu is more difficult to cool. Or I'll find and put 2x480 45 mm mm in top for a second rad for both the Cpu and Gpu. Many options as long you have a chassis that can handle 4 of them. Happy the chassis is big enough and not have cramped size as some prefer. Many ways to mount the radiator. But plastic strips it will be for now. This won't be showing in the finished build. And its easy to swap out if youlater want to change your cooling setup. The finished results looks good🙂 Swapped out the longer screws with the spacers and put them on top where you won't see them You can also see the brown gasket I glued on around the door opening to prevent unfiltred air to go into the chassis (the big unwanted gap between the door and chassis with the door closed was a real engineering flaw from Corsair). But this gasket mod have worked very well. And it's somewhat sad Corsair went cheapo for their chassis flagship and skrapped to send with a 2nd 8x120 mm fan tray you could use in top and not only one for the front. I expect the greedy bean counters at Corsair aw they could save 3-5$.

Hehe. I always walk in black clothes brother🙂Even the socks has to match the crocks🙂 And the dog is black. All black. And My wife and Kids nagging that I should change a bit on the style and start use some colored clothes, LOOL Guess what I tell them.... Nope, not me. But Grey is the nearest I could go for as a 2nd choice. Have a silver grey car. But the previous was black, HaHa Had to use spacers because the screws is too long. And more rads means more fans and even more screws. I have to use what I find home. At least one side of the rads have the faster 3000 rpm fans from Nochtua and EK. I put the different ones in front so I can swap them out easier. and I need more parts. Maybe I get them before Christmas?🙃 And very fun that I need different types of screws. M3, M4 Unc 6-32. Nothing of this here home. What a fun place have computers as hobby.

A few more pictures. The Crock is still there bro @electrosoft🙃 I lack still a lot parts. Alphacool on top and EK on the bottom (45 vs 60mm thickness). Drying after flushing. And gota love quality. And yep, shipping takes a lot of time when we talk about Norway. Need more parts and/or you have to replace flawed parts it it will take up to two weeks.

The added baby cores for Raptor lake will save Intel's day. Or better say... AMD failed offer a real performance enthusiasts product. Remember Raptor lake will only offer 8 real cores vs AMD's 16 cores. The rest of the Intel cores is low clocked baby cores without HT intended for smartphones/tablets. Yep, AMD had no other choices this time than have to reduce profits for their flagship. In Geekbench V5, Intel Raptor Lake i9-13900K with 24 cores and 32 threads is 4.4% faster in single-core and 8.4% faster in multi-core tests than Ryzen 9 7950X. On the other hand, AMD’s new flagship CPU is 31%/47.8% faster than 5950X and 14.5%/41.2% faster than i9-12900K respectively. https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-9-7950x-and-asus-rog-crosshair-x670e-extreme-also-tested-in-geekbench

Thermaltake Intros TG-60 Liquid Metal Thermal Compound Techpowerup.com Today, 06:12 Thermaltake today introduced the TG-60, a high-performance thermal interface material made of liquid-metal. The TG-60 offers an extreme thermal conductivity of 52 W/mK, but comes with all the downsides of any liquid-metal TIM—it's electrically conductive, and requires that your CPU cooler's contact surface have nickel-plating (without which it will corrode through any exposed-copper surfaces, including copper base-plates, vapor-chamber plates, or direct-contact heat-pipes. Luckily the selection of nickel-plated copper DIY water-blocks and air coolers are fairly broad. The TG-60 includes an applicator, a nozzle with the syringe, and a cleaning gauze. The company didn't reveal pricing.

The lack of 7800X in Zen 4 release smells ugly. Amd could do same as they did for 5800X3D. Only release an 7800X3D for 2023 and scrap the refreshes for the rest of the line. Maybe AMD will wait for Meteor lake. Some say Intel won't release it before 2024. But this is only rumors. If AMD go for a refresh it will be X3D stcked refreshes. Not real upgrades. And they are in the mercy of what TSMC will offer them. Both nvidia and Intel have a big foot within TSMC foundry now. Same also for Apple who always go for the newest nodes (their biggest customer).

What if AMD does the same as they did for 5000 series processors (let it live 2 years). New realased chips every second year, LOOL

Same can be said about some buyers/fanboys. They defend the brand over anything else. They just can't see there is several ways to heaven😁 God bless you bro @Prema 🙂 https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/amd-ryzen-7000-desktop-processors-launched-zen4-leadership-performance.298317/post-4823615

Isn't the 7600X comparable to the 12600K? Intel charges MSRP at 289$ and is on the way to increase the prices for the whole stack with 10%. But not so sure they will do that for 13600K due the competition. 289$+10% will really be bad value🙂 Even the added baby cores can't make up for a in worst case 320$ deal (6+4 or whatever Intel will add of babies).

Too late bin 13900K now 🙂 And AMD couldn't charge huge premium over it's competitors product this time beacuse they can't offer a huge lead in performance as they did with 16 cores 5950X. Neither do they offer more threads than what Intel will offer with 13th gen processors. Hence we now see AMD changed price target down for 7950X. A huge win for the consumers. Just hope Nvidia is forced to do the same. And same for Intel. LOOL

Intel have talked about 10% price hike for their chips this fall. 800$ means 33% premium above 12900K for a few extra added baby cores. Remember they now have the goolden chance to grab market shares from AMD. You don't do that easly with exactly same awful price point. And people have less money in their hands nowadays due the increased inflation/worse times. + the desktop sales have never been so low as now the last 30 years. Want more sales.... Just increase the prices, LOOL

Intel Arc 31.0.101.3276 graphics driver with new Intel Arc Control 4741 as beta good Morning Aug 27, 2022 Intel has updated the graphics driver 31.0.101.3276 for Intel Arc, 11th and 12th Gen CPUs. As an innovation: with this driver, Intel Arc Control has been bundled in the driver package. This should simplify the installation, but also makes the driver package larger… And the Intel driver package is whopping 1.2GB (bigger is better bro @Mr. Fox ?). Yep, I who thought Nvidia had an awful big driver package, LOOL

Enjoy.... https://forums.guru3d.com/threads/ryzen-9-7950x-allegedly-40-faster-than-5950x-in-cpu-z-multi-threaded.444366/page-4#post-6046405 See also... https://forums.guru3d.com/threads/ryzen-9-7950x-allegedly-40-faster-than-5950x-in-cpu-z-multi-threaded.444366/page-4#post-6046477 A sneeak peek.... Only rumors but if true 800$ will be too much.

Or just test with 8 cores/16 threads as you are allowed to on the bot for 12th gen because of the small wimpy small Baby cores (Hybrid arch). Just disable 8 cores on the 5950X and there will be apples vs apples. Look at the top 20, 50 or top 100 https://hwbot.org/benchmark/cinebench_-_r20/rankings?cores=8#start=0#interval=20 GTX 980... improved to 11th place🙂 https://hwbot.org/submission/5069714_papusan_3dmark_vantage___performance_geforce_gtx_980_79465_marks?recalculate=true