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I checked that Direct Die kit from Supercomputer. From what I can see from the pict the fins looks quite ok. So most likely a contact issue. But not so sure you'll get equal good results as you got with your previous kit for the older Cpu with an perfect coldplate. It need radical better results to match that. Have you seen others results for the kit for 12th gen? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The bot is down as usual. Second time within 2 days. So I couldn't post the new scores from my old stuff. But I'll grab an 3rd and 4th place in 3DM Cloud Gate and 3DM11 Entry when I get it posted🙂 https://www.3dmark.com/cg/4892136 - https://hwbot.org/submission/4996606_papusan_3dmark___cloud_gate_geforce_gtx_1070_77715_marks https://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/14977975 - https://hwbot.org/submission/4996602_papusan_3dmark11___entry_geforce_gtx_1070_42748_marks And will get an 6th place in 3DM 11 Performance. But got an good Physics score https://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/14978010 - https://hwbot.org/submission/4996599_papusan_3dmark11___performance_geforce_gtx_1070_28615_marks The others on the bot top ranking use TESS and LOD tweaks (Not valid on 3DM). Hence I'm alone on the top on Futuremark leaderbord for 1070. Better than nothing, LOOL Not bad with an AIO.... (Splave benched with LN2 and 7GHz and only gained an 7.6% lead)🙂 https://www.3dmark.com/hall-of-fame-2/3dmark+11+physics+score/version+1.0.132

Plus it will we easier for Dell to sell parts to the average Joe when they need parts. Of course within the obligatory/extended Premium support warranty periode. Outside that window, you are pretty screwed if you need Dell parts for you pc/laptop that have an expired warranty. This is worst of both worlds. Screwed + forced to pay premium. Can't beat that combo... Can it?

Have you tested the contact point/pressure between die and the cold plate with only a layer of LM on the die? Maybe a pressure/contact problem.

And you have similar problems to the Dell graphics cards. The proprietary bridge connector between the DGFF (Dell Graphics Form Factor) card and the MB is a very weak and flimsy constrution. A lot people had to swap it with a new one after they took out the graphics card for replacing the thermal pads. Proprietary design sucks. And it is more dificult to find used.

I think the graph tells everything. See also the blue boxes. And global economy is in stormy weather so..... Techspot.com | May 12, 2022 ROLLERCOASTER Crypto crash: ~$1 trillion wiped off markets as Bitcoin hits low point

From the artcle posted below.... 25% isn't far from 33% who is 1/3 of all graphics cards sold. At the same time last year, it was estimated that approximately 25 percent of partner manufacturers' graphics cards go directly to miners . That interest has now cooled, at least according to one of Asus's CEO SY Hsu . During a meeting where the company's financial results were presented, Hsu explained that the recent price reductions are related to the fact that the demand for graphics cards for breaking cryptocurrencies has decreased. Asus: "Miners' interest in graphics cards has cooled" According to Asus' CEO, lower graphics card prices are associated with reduced profitability and extinguished demand for graphics cards for mining.

This just show how important miners was both for Nvidia and AMD. Their only chance to push prices well above MSRP for next gen cards is to limit supply. But not so sure they want to do that. At least not nvidia who don't need the silicon for Cpu's as AMD. Better try sell twice as many cards than push out less cards to keep up disgusting prices. We will see when the fall come... There is pressure on the Global economy (worse times for everybody now - and it will last) so not so sure it will be easy try trick people into new very expensive gear. At least not if they try put prices where they never should be. Wish we could know the truth about how many graphics cards nvidia+AMD and its partners have thrown out to the miners. This outside the retail channels. We will probably never ever get the real numbers. AMD Prepares New "Raise The Game" Bundle - Rushing to Counter Falling Card Prices https://www.anandtech.com/show/17386/amd-prepares-new-raise-the-game-bundle

May 10, 2022—KB5013941 (OS Build 17763.2928) Windows 10 servicing stack update - 17763.2865 Prerequisite: You must install the August 10, 2021 SSU (KB5005112) before installing the LCU. CU (Cumulative Update) 17763.2928 — KB5013941 May 10, 2022-KB5013868 Cumulative Update for .NET Framework 3.5, 4.7.2 and 4.8 for Windows 10, version 1809 and Windows Server, version 2019 NDP35-48 https://catalog.s.download.windowsupdate.com/d/msdownload/update/software/secu/2022/04/windows10.0-kb5013626-x64-ndp48_e2b4283a00b2e97030507f071c3ecc6a2a352064.msu NDP35-472 https://catalog.s.download.windowsupdate.com/c/msdownload/update/software/secu/2022/04/windows10.0-kb5013641-x64_5cf245f52876a8a50a7155fada0245c6d0533bfb.msu

Nope. They tried fix bugs they introduced with previous monthly patch (where they tried fix problems that occured with programs that use .NET Framework 3.5). Of course they screwed up this time as well.. That's the usual from the Redmond based monkey company. Nothing unusual here🙂 Windows 11 update KB5012643 also broke ancient DirectX 9 on "certain GPUs" https://www.neowin.net/news/windows-11-update-kb5012643-also-broke-ancient-directx-9-on-certain-gpus/ Isn't it cute.... Cancer meet cancer bro @Ashtrix @Mr. Fox Is there something that's called double Cancer? 🙃 KB5013943 May 2022 update is crashing apps on Windows 11 Mayank Parmar - May 11, 2022 0 If you installed the May 2022 cumulative update on Windows 11, you might have noticed that many of the apps you use all the time aren't working as they used to

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This is one of many things why I buy MB etc from known retail stores here home and not those Norwegian webstores that sell it a few bucks cheaper because they have parallel import from abroad (offer all taxes included). None of their items/parts/repair is located here in Norway. So it's much easier to deal with a real webstore with good reputation. And this is why I don't want buy similar items from other countries webstores or even from EVGA abroud. I would be without my new and shiny at least a couple of months each time something breaks. That would sucks. But I'm sure you find your way out of this mess. Sad when it happens, but who know... You could have been lucky and everything have worked first time. Good luck bro John. Kick them in the balls.

FYI. Windows update offer also firmware updates. Dell is very keen to offer firmware updates via Microsoft servers. Same also for Lenovo and other brands. Here's one thread of many "9570 BIOS update appearing via Windows Update"

OEMs can keep overheating at bay with firmware, drivers and software. 100C for Cpu and +80C for the GPU is just fine. Just ask an Dell HW engineer. Throttling due overheating is an feature and not a bug. Features like Dynamic boost 2.0/AMD's SmartShift technology will help the OEM to further to reach their goal and achieve Apple's modern laptop chassis design. Push you over on newer laptops before time as etc offer untapped performance due their crippling is a smart move to increase/keep up the profits. Features as mentioned above is the OEMS golden ticket to try compete with Apple regarding tomorrows laptop design. Design over functionality will always cater to the average Joe. What is Nvidia Dynamic Boost 2.0? | Trusted Reviews What is AMD SmartShift? | Windows Central

Be happy you don't have to pay Gas prices we have in Norway. We are a big oil nation but have one of the most ugly prices for Gas in the world. U.S. Gas prices is also topic here home now. Maybe to justify even higher prices in the coming months. https://finansavisen-no.translate.goog/nyheter/bil/2022/05/10/7864050/bensinpriser-stiger-til-ny-rekord-igjen?_x_tr_sl=no&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We will see more refined throttling algorithms and an even harder working dynamic boost feature that let the GPU or the Cpu have first priority on cooling. https://hothardware.com/news/intel-12th-gen-alder-lake-hx-cpus-more-cores-features And we may see new ways to differenciate the OEMS. Up to the different OEM what features they will offer. The HX chips come with an castrated iGPU so now they can charge more for the lap-jokes for those that don't want pay premium for their ARC Gpu. Maybe they also can stop people from fiddeling with an eGPU? https://www.anandtech.com/show/17376/intel-launches-alder-lake-hx-series-processors-for-highend-laptops#:~:text=Thunderbolt 4 support is not baked into this platform%3B like its desktop counterpart%2C Thunderbolt is an optional feature here. Adding Thunderbolt requires using a discrete controller (up to two)%2C so it will be left up to laptop vendors to implement their own configurations and designs. Edit: PS. The HX series ain't as the best option for gaming. Probably because the new Cpu's will clock down lower than the HK chips due the more cores and the higher power consumption. The amazing Dynamic boost feature that "share the power/cooling budget between Cpu and Gpu) easly killed this new chips as an better gaming chips. Intel's Alder Lake-HX CPUs are official, with support for PCIe 5.0, DDR5, and overclocking The company also provided a quick overview of gaming performance. For now, we'll have to take Intel's word for it, but it doesn't look like the new CPU series will disappoint. However, the company did note that H-series Alder Lake CPUs will remain the fastest mobile processors for gaming for a while yet, so in terms of performance-per-dollar, you may want to opt for a laptop with Alder Lake-H. Btw. The forum is very sluggish and slow. And something has to be done with easier edit the posts. Same also for adding more quotes in same posts afterwards. Not sure what I do wrong but couldn't easy put the post about the new sick BGA opton under Tenoroo quote. Hence it is put under bro Fox reply.

I expect he would put in Win 11 over 10 if the article was from today.... Not so sure he could imagine that Microsoft would go even further and release something even worse. BTW, Win 11 is mainly created and designed around tablets and 2 in 1 touch-books. Built from (on top of) Windows 10x. Windows 10 & 8 Worst OS EVER Been made from Microsoft............

The only difference between Win 11 and Win 8.1 is that the older OS is usable for 2 or 3 benchmarks. There is nothing to gain from Win 11. Not so sure Win 11 is so much better out of the box🙃 But thanks for the answer. This reminds me a lot about another company's VP. Dell Alienware also went for a woman. Not the big boss for Dell but she is the boss for Dell's gaming brand. Frank Azor gets a successor: Vivian Lien becomes new VP og Dell and Alienware brand

Yep, Exactly my experience with AMD.

Isn't it cute? Microsoft will start offer a worse product than its rival Apple. Who could imagine that this would happen a few years ago? Apple offer different OS depending on what HW you have. Microsoft don't bother with that (One fits all). And now they will force you to use their Microsoft account if you want to use their newest OS. Apple offer an bad package, but M$ sailing up as equal now. Sometimes even worse! From the article... "This is an industry-wide trend. For example, Google has always forced Google accounts on Android phones with Play services. On Apple products, the process isn’t mandatory and it is possible to set up your iPhone without creating an Apple ID, but certain apps or services like App Store may not work properly. And be you sure.... Micorsoft will plug the loophole in the registry where you can circumvent the obligatory M$ account when you install your new and shiny touch friendly OS. They hhave removed needed reg keys before. And they will continue thighen the screw. For those of you that are Win 11 (Microsoft) fanboys. Maybe you all should run out and buy the new and shiny box? Cute pictures? Microsoft have even printed on their most ugly OS wallpapers images ever on the retail box. Windows 11 now comes in physical retail boxes too neowin.com https://www.neowin.net/news/windows-11-now-comes-in-physical-retail-boxes-too/ Maybe the EU lawmakers will put an nail in the death coffin for this sickness. The U.S. Government and regulation authorities is pretty toothless and can't see how bad their biggest tech companies has become. EU will enforce the Digital Markets Act in Spring 2023 and it could allow iOS users to install apps from third-party sources The European Union will enforce the Digital Markets Act (DMA) in 2023, and this could have a huge impact on Big Tech companies such as Apple, Google, Microsoft, Amazon, and Meta (Facebook). Among other things, the law is expected to allow iOS users to install apps from third-party sources.

Double click on the big monitoring grid box on right. Then you'll see all the cores maximum temp and not half of them. If you only look into the tab without scrolling down or double click then you won't see the whole pict. Take also a look into the small box where you should see max temp reached. Does someone know if there is an IMEI driver with Win 8.1 support that works with Z690? And it seems it's easier find working drivers for the older Win 7 for the new HW. Same also for graphics drivers for old EOL graphics cards. AMD you have failed. Your driver library is a mess vs. Nvidia. https://hwbot.org/submission/4992861_papusan_3dmark05_radeon_hd_7970_82667_marks https://hwbot.org/submission/4992907_papusan_3dmark06_radeon_hd_7970_58796_marks

Bruh, Win 11 ain't an option. Its a disaster. This tablet optimized touch OS will only be worse. Remember Microsoft try to match their newest tablet OS with their Surface-books. Exactly as Apple do with their iPad's (tablet). The only difference is that Apple is able to offer 3 different OS depending if you have an smartphone, tablet or Mac Jokebooks. Microsoft want it unisex and prefer only a single OS, and that is mainly meant for tablets, Mini-Jokes and 2 in 1. Win 11 isn't meant for desktops. Hence a huge failure. Go with a dual/tripple boot as bro @Mr. Foxsaid. And I do the same. With Win 11 you'll never know what they will change or add in before its too late. Minor changes will come several times a year in a patch update. A ticking bomb. “With the updates we made for the new tablet-optimized taskbar in Build 22563, we’re no longer supporting dragging icons in the system tray or between the system tray and the show hidden icons flyout,” a Microsoft official noted in the Feedback Hub. Officials later clarified that the change was indeed made for the tablet-optimized taskbar in Windows 11, but it also affects the desktop UX since the OS currently doesn’t come with a dedicated tablet mode. https://www.windowslatest.com/2022/05/06/microsoft-backtracks-on-windows-11s-unwanted-taskbar-changes/

Day included night have 24 hours. In works is normally 7,5-8 hours. And you really don't need more than 4-7 hours sleep. Spend rest of the time on what you want. Some prefer use their freetime on tv, some sit on a coffe shop, some on the pub/bar and some with fam (you can include a lot self time within that time). And a lot in between. A single bench is from 3 sec to 1/2 an hour. How much time you want to spend on it, depends on the individuals. None is equal. As I always say... The day have all too few hours... Same for the living life. Spend them on what you like. And time is freshware... When you look on your watch then you'll see the seconds ticking away and all that time you have watched "will you never ever see again". ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Why Corsair Users Should Install iCUE If you own any Corsair devices or peripherals, then you should absolutely install iCUE. The free program lets you manage, control, and customize your Corsair gear, allowing you to make the most out of them…. Oh' Hell nooo. Hell will freeze before I follow that advice from Howtogeek. I already live in a Snow Hell. 3 weeks forwards and we are in the first Summer months. And the cold, snow and wind will come back in October and last until same time next year (2023). Yep, I'm used to to freeze and Hell, so for me... No in Hell, I want this installed. Free or not doesn't matter. Today evening. 0-2 degrees outside, rain, snow, wind, max humidity and sleet, then it comes in the opposite row. A never ending game changer here on top of North Scandinavia. I wish I could spent my valuable time "lack of enough hours" better than complaining on the weather. But nope, I can't. I should rather have benched. Please send me a few more hours (or better weather), bro @ryan 🙂🙂🙂

Yep, the fine was worth it for Nvidia. Less talk about miners, the better. Bad publicity and angry gamers has to be avoided at any costs. NVIDIA agrees to pay $5.5M fine after failing to disclose its 2018 crypto revenue https://hwbot.org/submission/4991547_papusan_3dmark___cloud_gate_radeon_hd_7970_51109_marks

More bling bling and more software. Can't beat that combo. And the v2 refresh cost as usual a lot more than its predecessor. With all sorts of RGB lights in the chassis... Are people still able to see what HW they have in there? For me it would be the same as see right into the sun. Probably even worse because of all of the shifting fancy pastel colors and blink blink all day/night, LOOL Maybe they used thinner wire gauge to make the power cables looks prettier? Only god knows (but they state it will make the cables more flexible - another way to tell its of lower quality) . Form/design over function is the wrong way to go. I expect people can't get enough of RGB lights. When will wee see a chassis coating with nano bling bling paint connected to the MB's RGB hub? Lian Li Strimer Plus V2 Review: A New Level of RGB for Your PSU Cables Friday, so have nice weekend 🙂

Maybe, but most likely.............. https://hwbot.org/submission/4990999_papusan_3dmark2001_se_radeon_hd_7970_147565_marks?recalculate=true https://hwbot.org/submission/4990958_papusan_3dmark06_radeon_hd_7970_56931_marks?recalculate=true

AMD's driver team is morons or pure Stupid. Why not list the driver as Non-WHQL in the driver name in the driver link? None will know if they have added a valid driver or not in the Radeon package. Yep, a disgusing lottery. Btw. this one below is valid on Futuremark. But you won't know before you have downloaded and tested it or check if other got a valid score from it. How Stupid. Every damn, driver from AMD is a lottery for benching. Yooo like it stupid bro @Mr. Fox? Is stupid the new normal/norm nowadays?🤔 Btw. And if you crash in a bench run the AMD driver won't recover fully (but still works). It will be bugged until you re-boot Windows. This never happen with Nvidia drivers. Yep, todays word have to be "Stupid". https://hwbot.org/submission/4990924_papusan_aquamark_radeon_hd_7970_532359_marks?recalculate=true