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Yep newer tech will always offer optimum combination of performance, price, and power efficiency. Nvidia try explain that minimum vram and lower Mem Bus is good for the gamers.. They get newest graphics cards for a cheaper prices😎 So yep, newer has to be newer. Every time! For the best for the gamers. Higher capacity chips cost more to make, so a balance is required to optimize prices. This is damage control at it's worst. NVIDIA Explains GeForce RTX 40 Series VRAM Functionality techpowerup.com

I fix it for you😎 DTRs is dead. Long live thin and modern

Here's why nvidia prefered lower TGP for their new gen low-mid end graphics cards. More people can get new and modern graphics in their mini pc's. Those that prefer bigger chassis with better cooling capacity for maximum performance from lower tier cards will lose as always. Nice. First Mini-ITX GeForce RTX 40 graphics card announced https://videocardz.com/newz/first-mini-itx-geforce-rtx-40-graphics-card-announced The 12VHPWR connectors is the Gods gifts to the repair shops. The 4090 cards is very powerful and will have a long life in the used market with new owners. This means many cards will be out of warranty and the only fix will be by the repair shops. Yep, the 4090's is a Gold mine for any electronic repair shop. I'm quite sure the 12VHPWR connectors will come in new revisions for 5000 series cards. For the 4000 series cards its too late... Yep, I think AMD will skip this new connector for current gen Radeon cards (possible 7950XTX). They can't afford bad publicity after their try knocking down nvidia due the smoking 12VHPWR connectors before 7000 series cards release. + the increased costs will make it even harder for AMD to do such expensive changes. Here is 3 videos in a row from the last 5 days from NorthridgeFix. And I think he will make ready for the 4th or 5th video for this week or next (he got new ones in for repairs). And this delicate 12VHPWR mess won't stop by itself.... The last one is for @electrosoft🙂 From today. The weak point was the 90 degree CableMod adapter. Not the 12VHPWR adaper cable. Both fully plugged in. The 90 degree adapter plug was fully molded with the GPU connector. Stroger connection than with any of the best glue you can find on the market, LOOL 4090 FE Connector melted with Cablemod Adapter installed. 40 series cards should be recalled

LOOOL In the most VRAM demanding games using ultra settings, like The Last of Us Part I, for example, the RTX 3060 may end up outperforming the newer 4060 due to its larger VRAM buffer. Nvidia stated in their briefing with us that the RTX 4060 Ti isn't designed to be used on ultra settings; being a mid-range card, it's more suited to high-ish settings at modest resolutions. Yep, I'm 110% sure this new cards will be amazing in 720P forwards, HaHa https://www.techspot.com/news/98731-nvidia-launches-three-new-geforce-rtx-4060-gpus.html

More competition won't work. They will only try match prices up against what Nvidia will charge. And if they offer something much better they will do as AMD did with Ryzen 5950X. First mainstream chips that reached $800 USD. There was no reason that AMD wanted MSRP $899 USD for 7900XT. A $699 Gtaphics cards. The competition don't works!!! See.... Not so sure 4060Ti will be so enjoyable even with fake frame features.... 15% real performance uplift from the 2 years older 3060Ti with same amount money is a Joke. And this with +50% higher boost clocks. A note on DLSS 3 Nvidia leans heavily on DLSS Frame Generation throughout its announcement to make the 4060 Ti look even faster than the 3060 Ti, which is all well and good. For games that support it, DLSS FG can take frames rendered by your GPU and generate an interpolated frame to show in between them, hypothetically boosting frame rates without asking the GPU to render more frames. But there are three problems with DLSS FG, especially on mid-range GPUs. First, not all games support it, though many newer and more-demanding ones do (and pending Unreal Engine 5 support should make it even easier for developers to add support in new games). Second, it adds latency, which can make controls feel laggier in fast-paced shooters or other games where precision is important. And third, it works best in situations where your GPU is already pushing a decent frame rate. More rendered frames means that Nvidia's AI algorithm needs to "guess" less when generating its interpolated frames, and imperfections in those AI-generated frames are harder to spot at 120 fps than they are at 40 fps. We encountered some of this in our RTX 4070 review, where more visual artifacts were more noticeable in games like Cyberpunk 2077 where the GPU was rendering at closer to 30 fps than 60. Obviously, buying a midrange-to-low-end graphics card has always been about making compromises and balancing smooth frame rates with resolution and graphical fidelity. Despite its tradeoffs, DLSS FG is a powerful lever that people can pull to try to find a balance that works for them. It just isn't a substitute for better rasterized game performance, which benefits all games in all scenarios rather than just a subset.

Also Nividia isn't able to understand own stupidity..... They only understand greed. Yep, no price hike but they castrated their 4060Ti cards with less Cuda cores and lower MEM Bus vs 3060Ti to cut costs. Easy make matching prices if you destroy own brand new graphics cards. And Nvidia want $100 USD for 8GB extra vram. How much does it cost Nvidia to buy it? Not much more but hey will use the more expensive Clam shell mode for 4060Ti. Thats retarded. 4060Ti. What a fantastic generation performance uplift. 15 percent faster performance than the 3060 Ti in games without the DLSS Frame Generation feature enabled. Up to 52% higher boost clocks but only 15 percent faster real performance... Yep, reducing CUDA cores and MEM Bus vs its predessor come at a cost. Yep, what an improvement. Rather a Joke. Nvidia introduces $399 RTX 4060 Ti and $299 4060 without introducing a price hike arstechnica.com

Microsoft admits it couldn't really fix Windows 11 Security and Defender LSA issues neowin.com · 23 hours ago Microsoft has admitted that the Windows 11 security issue, wherein Defender would wrongly display LSA protection is disabled, isn't really fixed. The company has provided the same workaround.........

Yep, no problem go outside the 8-pin PCI Express power connectors current rating specs if the GPU manufacturer will allov it. But this won't happen. Needed power is only possible in combination with the fragile 12VHPWR connector or 4x 8-pin PCI Express power connectors. And this extra adapter in the GPU package will increase the costs aka reduce AMDs profits. Also adding the 4th needed 8-pin PCI Express power connector on the PCB will increase costs. Going the cheapo route will always come at a cost. Leadership and Efficiency - Perfected by AMD...............😎 A major change for the GPU package only to try coming 2nd will cost AMD a hell lot money. And there was for a reason they only added the XT over X for their older Ryzen Cpus. The AMD way... Being 2nd and keep up max profits. Why is AMD not using GDDR6X? - PC Guide

3x8 pins ain't enough. AMD will have to change the power connector. Even their best binned dies won't be enough to stay with old fashion 8pin connectors. + we know AMD cut corners where they can (GDDR6vram etc) then they have the cheapo man F. Azor that look at maximum profits over awesome. They can close the gap to 4090 but will never come on par this gen cards. Nvidia don't even need 4090Ti to stay on top as long AMD only look on the bottom line. Or change from... I think the real problem is they don't know how to win to....... I think the real problem is they don't want to win because that will increase costs.

This just show why Nvidia only will offer the minimum of vram for mid-end cards. Force you to upgrade the graphics card every 2nd year. Not a big problem with etc the 4090 (3090). You have already paid extra for the extra vram 🙂

Bro Fox. Want to see something ugly? The new and shiny overpriced 4070 cards offer huge value over the cheaper EOL 3070, LOOL

Same with the Gigabyte board. Just even worse. That board even hate older Nvidia cards. To sum it up... What they want ... You have to buy their newest and greatest so we can make max profits. But this should never ever be the goal for OC boards meant for oc'ing. People/oc'ers that buy OC boards do it for one sole reason... Have fun with new and old hw, get the best the industri can offer and to take 3D world records (both with new and old hw). Asus fail hard in that task. Same with Evga that can't force Nvidia to give them their Sli keys, + don't even have support for some brand new 4090 graphics cards. And Gigabyte who drag it further and only let you install new graphics cards. Just the status of todays tech................ Not sure why a major PSU maker that cater to enthusiasts will force you to use their bloatware to be able to use your expensive HW the way you want. If you want avsome... You need to be in elite/chosen one and ask for special treatments. The rest of us have to accept seconda or trash. It stinks and it sucks.

Installed the 7970 to force the bios to accept AMD. Installed the 7970 and shut down. Put in the 6870 and it booted up. Now I have to find some drivers. Even very old drivers for 7970 won't work with Radeon 6870. One gen older card but don't work the way as nvidia always do. Nice, AMD. Edit. And booted also after driver install 🙂 Secon boot. Edit. Second boot. Into bios to increase clocks. No other changes. Black screen and no sign of life. Nice. Can't see other problems than Asus board don't play well with the old Asus AMD card. Aka double Asus cancer, LOOL Once I pull out the card and put in the 7970 who also have legacy vbios the pc boot up. Hmm We'll see if it survive a re-boot (works as long I don't boot in bios). Run the bench after first re-boot after driver install. The black screen appears when bios shuts down and reboot. Same also if I turn off the pc. Only swapping over to the 7970 will let me boot with the 6870. But you are doomed if you turn off your machine afterwards. It will only survive with a re-boot. What a mess. Asus Radeon HD 6870 https://hwbot.org/submission/5275478_papusan_3dmark05_radeon_hd_6870_53642_marks?recalculate=true https://hwbot.org/submission/5275477_papusan_3dmark06_radeon_hd_6870_34794_marks?recalculate=true

And it continue.... Gigabyte still offer too high voltage with new bios. Do they check their works? I expect Gigabyte engineers think 1.361V is harmless and well below 1.41V as older bios. Hope they don't do an Asus🙂

Asus try save face... The damage to the brand is already done. Clearly, someone high up at Asus has taken note of the potential damage being done to the brand over the last several days and has decided a strong statement and some extra assurances were warranted for the sake of long-term sales. Asus Responds to AM5 BIOS Controversy: Warranty Covers Beta Fixes, EXPO Presets tomshardware.com Asus: We want to address the concerns that have been raised by our users about whether recent BIOS updates will impact the warranty of ASUS AM5 motherboards. We would like to reassure our customers that both beta and fully validated BIOS updates for ASUS AM5 motherboards are covered by the original manufacturer’s warranty. We would also like to confirm the following points: 1. The ASUS AM5 motherboard warranty also covers all AMD EXPO, Intel XMP, and DOCP memory configurations. 2. All recent BIOS updates follow the latest AMD voltage guidelines for AMD Ryzen 7000 series processors. Furthermore, we would like to reiterate our commitment to supporting the AMD AM5 platform and our customers. For any further inquiries about your ASUS AM5 motherboard, please contact our customer service for support. -- Asus I really love having two PSUs in my big black box. A lot cleaner in the box with the PSU cover intact and with only the needed cables for the new and the old cards🙂 This pict shows the Asus Radeon HD 6870 DirectCU installed. You can see the dual BE QUIET! 12VHPWR adapter cables lying over the HOF crown on right side. And this way it doesn't make the looks inside the box looking as bad as before. I will cut down the lenght and route the tube from the rad to the Aqua Computer high flow NEXT so it looks much better. No hurry for that now. I'll probably make other changes later so I can do it then. The home made black cover around the water tank is to reduce the sun light from attacking the water. I will also make some changes there🙂 We should have had black water tanks for the D5 pumps, LOOL Edit. What stupids that determined that older Asus AMD graphics cards shouldn't have HDMI? Yep... Asus. And what stupids at Asus determined that their Asus bios for newer MB shouldn't talk with older Asus AMD graphics cards? Again... Asus. Nice. Asus offer OC boards that can't be used as intended. Oh'well we live in stupid times now with stupid new tech. Why I never see this with older Nvidia graphics cards bro @Mr. Fox? One more nail in the "not buy" any of the AMD hardware. You risk compatibility problems with next gen motherboards. I have no problem with Legacy or Uefi vbios for nvidia graphics cards. And neither for Legacy vbios for 7970. Just the older Radeon cards it seems. Could of course be a dead card. But I doubt it, it should work from what I heard from the seller (I picked up the card in home town). See my next post. The card booted with the help of 7970.

With all the changes Microsoft do for Secure-boot with new patches and that MSI leaked their Intel signin keys I don't trust what to come from Intel nowadays. And neither from Microsoft. Update: Mysterious Intel patch released for almost every modern CPU We don't know what Intel's patch fixes, and its schedule and scope is a little worrying. ..... So what’s all the fuss about? We don’t know, although Intel did respond. “Microcode 20230512 update released on May 12, 2023 does not contain any security updates and the note, [INTEL-SA-NA], is meant to convey that there are no applicable (Not Applicable) security updates in the package,” an Intel spokeswoman said in an email. “The microcode update includes functional updates only (also documented in product erratum).” So while we still don’t know what the microcode actually fixes, Intel’s response gives us a better idea that the microcode isn’t actually a repeat of the Meltdown and Spectre bugs of 2018. That’s a relief. Functionality updates.... What's that bro Fox? Reduce performance for current chips before the Raptor refresh? Or what functionality updates was so important so they had to be launched before normal schedule? See.... About this release are somewhat concerning. First, Intel released the new CPU microcode as an “out of band” or unscheduled release. You don't offer Out of band patches if this isn't an very important security fix. Say its an functionality update, LOOL. Give me a break. Edit. See also the article from Theregister.com May, 15 2023 https://www.theregister.com/2023/05/15/intel_mystery_microcode/ The fact that this code release wasn’t scheduled on that day signifies that Intel wasn’t aware of the vulnerability then, and felt it was significant enough to release a patch on Friday rather than waiting for next month.

For me it's more the fun with the old. I have lost many years tinkering with desktop HW due we could get real DTR laptops. Going back to play with old desktop parts ain't so hard when you see how it went with laptops. You can change ssd's in Jokebooks but thats almost everything you can do with Apple design. Hope you don't have dried grass in your garden and in risk burn down your neighbors houses, HaHa

Here's Papusan's new baby. Imagine this bro Fox. Your old friend went with AMD😆 But $18.88 USD won't ruin my day. And I don't think AMD will make any profits from me (it will continue as so). Say hello to Asus Radeon HD 6870 DirectCU. Pictures for @electrosoft The performance should be around GTX 470. Not the new 4070😁 And the card is from the old Asus. Not the "new" Asus. The old new price was $184.04 here home in the days.

Wouldn't that be nice? The elite and the choosen one will get the chance to fully rule the 2D and 3D benchmarks. This to show of how good the brands products is (worthless for the rest of us). We are there already today bro Electro (Jokebooks). Then you have AMD and their so called unlocked chips (X3D). So both Intel and AMD is there already today 🙂

I wish we could see the same from Nvidia and AMD graphics (full unlocked graphics cards)🙂 Whats the difference between Cpus and GPUs? Why lock down graphics card but not processors? They both have thermal sensors that will throttle down the HW or just shut it down in worst case. Just look at Nvidia graphics... Throttle down boost clocks already before it see 50C. What are they afraid for? We already have 12VHPWR PCI-E connectors for nvidia graphics (600w). Even dual 12VHPWR PCI-E connectors for the HOF (1200w). So there is no reason be afraid for burned cables/connectors. The worst that can happen is a PSU may trip off due it's security mecanism if the load is too high.

From 17:12 what is AMD thinking? Use your prefered cooler and you'll in short lose your warranty. LOOL

A short warning... Be damn careful to update Asus firmware the coming weeks. They are known for offering "no roll back" with newer bios versions and you may be stuck with something nasty from Intel. Also be careful with coming MC patch updates from Microsoft if you don't know how to get rid of the MC code in the OS afterwards. Intel Deploys Undisclosed Microcode Security Update For CPUs Going Back To Coffee Lake Whatever the security vulnerability may be, it evidently affects many of Intel's platforms, including the latest consumer Intel 13th Generation Core Raptor Lake and 4th Generation Xeon Sapphire Rapids server chips. However, it's the first time that recent lineups, such as Alder Lake-N and Atom C series (Arizona Beach), received a microcode update. The lengthy list includes desktop processors dating as far back as the Coffee Lake days and mobile chips starting from Kaby Lake going forward.

Yep. Have already mentioned this here. God bless those stupids that will buy the 8GB version…. https://notebooktalk.net/topic/109-official-benchmark-thread-post-it-here-or-it-didnt-happen-d/?do=findComment&comment=32270&_rid=79

1080P in 24" should be swapped to 1440P and this will increase costs further. And not sure how you can take with you this on a flight. Is this below a joke or a sad story about greed? Gamers will now get the choice between plague and cholera if they have a fixed amount money to spend (see bolded text). Or loan up more with your credit card to pay more for the more expensive graphics card with vram in no-mans land (4070@12GB). New 8 and 12GB mid-range nvidia card should never have seen the light in 2023 but nvidia want you to upgrade within two years to be able to play next gen games. This is greed. Not a Joke. Or it could be both? Enjoy your weekend If the two variants are close in terms of price, then gamers will have to make their choice based on whether their favorite games need 16GB of memory, or a higher-performing GPU with 4352 CUDA cores. Or perhaps go with more expensive GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 16GB or even GeForce RTX 4070 with 12GB. Nvidia Reportedly Prepping RTX 4060 with 16GB of VRAM Nvidia expected to offer fourth GeForce RTX 4060 model.

I fix it for you 🙂 You need compare the correct SKU. And you can't say a 13600K is faster than a 12900K. They don't have same amount cores so can't be compared. Same apply also for graphics cards.