Mr. Fox

That last one... "Celestial Spa" is so lifelike that identifying it as AI is difficult. Scary stuff.

Smoke and mirrors. Welcome to The Matrix. The fake news disinformation mills report what Xi Jinping wants the world to believe. They can't eat computer chips and smartphones. The news cartel is very good at putting lipstick on the pig. And, these are just the normies. Ask a Uyghur how things are going.

Well, we had a brain-dead zombie muppet in the oval office when that toothless ban was issued by a feckless shadow regime of wealth-stealing woke sicko commie traitors. That's why it never happened. Much bigger fish need to be fried with the open border and what-not. More important things need to take priority right now. That day will come soon enough and when it hits it will hit hard. China's destruction will be without mercy and irrecoverable.

Interesting... wonder how many people took Jay's advice? I bet a lot of people did. Misinformation is pretty common. Tom's Hardware published it, too.

I agree with you. Even with the rolling release options there's a lag in support for the newest hardware. Day one hardware and driver support needs to be a top priority. Unfortunately there's going to be some of the sheeple that value form over function. If their OS isn't loaded up with a bunch of disgusting eye candy and other gimmicky crap they won't embrace it. Just like the rainbow puke they adore so much even when the hardware they own is anemic and lackluster. It's ironic that an OS that has been popular among poor people and third-world countries will probably eventually end up being the only acceptable OS for the people that are not Kool-Aid drinking idiots.

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The biggest problem with Linux is support for the latest hardware. Sometimes it take 6 months to a year for proper support. I think most Linux developers are not early adopters of new tech. And, until some of them buy new hardware get the kernel updated and drivers working using Linux is not an option no matter how much you want it to be. I have had the most difficult time imaginable installing Linux on the X870E platform. It seems like none of the Linux developers have AMD's most current platform and haven't given it enough effort. When I started web searching I discovered I was not alone. Most distros are broken and installation fails at the point of installing the boatloader. I even removed all other OS drives thinking maybe Micro$lop was interfering by blocking access to the EFI partition, but that was not it. I tried numerous Arch, Ubuntu and Debian derivatives and all ended with the same error. But, I did not give up and I finally got Zorin installed after 2 days of farting around with more than a dozen failed attempts on both the ASUS and Gigabyte mobos. I tried GRUB, systemd and rEFInd bootloaders on each distro and tried different SSDs. All failed during the installation of the boatloader. Very weird. I guess that is one of the compromises when stuff is free. I'm using a USB ethernet adapter because the onboard NIC and WiFi are not supported. I can't identify why it finally worked and it was not the first try with Zorin. Supposedly kernel 6.15 supports the networking, but I tried updating to the latest kernel and it breaks the NVIDIA drivers. It seems there are no NVIDIA compatible headers for 6.15.

So, I have had the most difficult time imaginable installing Linux on the X870E platform. It seems like none of the Linux developers have AMD's most current platform and haven't given it enough effort. Most distros are broken and installation fails at the point of installing the boatloader. I even removed all other OS drives thinking maybe Micro$lop was interfering by blocking access to the EFI partition, but that was not it. I tried numerous Arch, Ubuntu and Debian derivatives and all ended with the same error. I finally got Zorin installed after 2 days of farting around with failures on both the ASUS and Gigabyte mobos. I tried GRUB, systemd and rEFInd bootloaders on each distro and tried different SSDs. All failed during the installing the boatloader. Very weird. I guess that is one of the compromises when stuff is free. I'm using a USB ethernet adapter because the onboard NIC and WiFi are not supported.

Happy July 4th. Passage of the Big, Beautiful Bill will make this the best one I can remember and definitely reason for celebration of American Independence.

Running with -75mV and default power limits I still see 90+ on temps running benchmarks or playing games. I've stopped using mine until I can buy a waterblock for it. If they are overpriced then I will probably sell it. It blows more hot air than I would like and the temps are much higher than I want them to be.

Hey bro. Hope all is well. I do not know if anyone in this thread is an AMD-powered laptop user. There might be one.

Well that's surprising. Get some. I have 5 of them. Be sure to get one with a backlight that stays turned on all the time. The Kill-A-Watt brand sucks because it has no backlight. There are some with a backlight that only turns on temporarily when you press a button. Those suck for the same reason. If you want to get really fancy you can program the cost per kW/h to project the cost of operation, but I don't waste my time with nonsense like that. These are my favorite. Big letters and very clean and legible from across the room, with a backlight that never turns off. It also has an internal battery and remembers what you set it to. No need to reapply all of your settings any time the power goes out or you move it to a new outlet. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09BQNYMMM?ref_=ppx_hzsearch_conn_dt_b_fed_asin_title_1&th=1 Prices are a little bit less retarded now. Still unacceptable and hard for me to rationalize a legitmate basis for buying one. If the least expensive models drop below $2000 I may consider buying one. I won't buy a 5090 unless the price is the same or less than what I paid for the Gigabyte 4090 that I sold. Not worth it IMHO. I'm not really benching much anymore and I don't care about having more game FPS than I already have. I find so little free time to devote to gaming that there isn't much incentive to buy one at such over-the-top idiotic prices. Anything less than 5090 that the Green Goblin has to offer is of no interest to me. I might consider the frivolous purchase of a 5080 at 9070 XT pricing. Otherwise, no... the juice isn't worth the squeeze and I'd feel like I was volunteering to get screwed.

Memory latency... AMD > Intel... "Oh how the mighty have fallen..." Until Core Ultra screwed everything up AMD was the suckiest at memory latency. Chiplets/tiles/CCDs suck. The fabric needed to cobble the mess together adds a layer of undesirable crappiness. First AMD then Intel. Monkey see, monkey do.

Yes, it is in my AORUS Master build. It is my best GPU. 4090 Suprim with Core GPU block.

I just watched this video this morning on the same subject. Now they just need to figure out thermals.

Do I smell smoke?

Thanks. That looks very promising. I asked if his was an Alphacool. Would be interesting if Bykski is offering them for a lower price.

I never had any issues at all with power shutdowns or melted GPU connectors using 3x8 or 4x8 pin connectors and I've pulled as much or more power from them than almost anyone running 4090 or 5090 today. One 8-pin certainly would not have worked, but this wasn't a replacement for a single 8-pin connector. Most of the 12VHPWR cables use the same or even a smaller gauge wire and instead of 8 x 3 (24) or 8 x 4 (32) wires you're pushing all the current through 12 smaller wires. So to me that is chintzy. Excessive heat is a self-fulfilling prophecy and we should be surprised at the small miracle that there haven't been more melted connectors than there have been. But, it sure does look cute, with just one dainty little connector. I am still baffled that anyone could think such a connector being used to carry so much current was a bright idea. Downright stupid IMHO. People got their pockets lined off of this scam. I'm sure PSU sales hit new highs. Something new that nobody needed, but they thought they did. Or they were made to believe they did. Newer is always better newer. Sometimes (often) newer is garbage. 12VHPWR connector is garbage.

We have always been anxious about a CPU or GPU hitting 100°C (boiling point) but now we have to worry about these chintzy half-assed 12VHPWR cables even with the CPU and GPU temps totally under control. Thermal whack-a-mole.

AOC probably won't appreciate her lies getting exposed. I hope she doesn't.

If you buy one of the cheapest options you should expect a hit-or-miss experience in the lottery. If you buy a halo product at the most ludicrous price there is no excuse for the quality variance. Like what the hell are you actually paying extra for if there is still a real chance you will end up with an overclocking loser? Super stupid and unacceptable to pay a high premium without reducing or eliminating the game of chance. They should be binning the core and memory of every card and offering a minimum guarantee consistent with the price tag at $3.5K. There should be like maybe a max of 1-2% variance between them when the core and memory are maxed out. Otherwise, it is a foolish purchase unless you can get an immediate no-questions-asked refund. Most people wouldn't tolerate such a quality and performance variance when purchasing other products and it shouldn't be tolerated with high end PC parts. It should never be "good luck, hope you picked a winner" and always "congratulations, you purchased something that can't be beaten and only matched by other owners of the same product" for it to make any sense. NewEgg has lots of "open box" 5090 available for lower (but still too high) prices. That's better than buying an FE model, but they must all be the silicon lottery losers that got sent back within the 30-day return window. Those are all still priced more than I would want to pay for brand new. I am probably not going to buy anything else (GPU or otherwise) until Microcenter opens and I get walk iin with my money and out with a part, return it if it is a piece of crap and get another or get a refund and walk out with my money in realtime.

This would be pretty annoying. Jay has two Astral 5090 and they are different on the PCB and VRM. One overclocks like a dream and the other one (earlier revision) sucks. The older revision also has crappy memory. If you pay this much for a GPU there should not be hardware differances and there should be minimal variance in silicon quality. You should not just "get whatever you get" and have to suck it up and deal with it. That's really messed up. Congratulations to the early adopters that got screwed on the earlier revisions with missing components on the PCB and weaker silicon. Inexcusable. Glad I didn't spend $3.5K on one of these turds. I'm sure I would have ended up with a bottom-feeder sample like I usually do.

What is this? The screenshot looks nothing at all like 3DMark does on my systems. Very strange. Edit: nevermind... crApple M4 LOL 🤣 That explains why it looks so goofy.

He shared with us in this post and I just happened to see it. I often miss posts in threads I visit infrequently, but I was fortunate enough to have seen it. That is how I knew to ask.

I'm super happy to hear that you're doing well brother. While the accident was terribly unfortunate it's good that it happened while you are young and still able to heal quickly. The older you get the more difficult it is to deal with the injury and recovery is slower. The P870 was the last great laptop. No laptop made after it has been worth owning. I can see how having it would have made the downtime the accident caused more tolerable.