Mr. Fox

1 hour ago, Etern4l said:

 

155 here. Basically buying CPUs outside the US is pointless!

 

 

Stop will all the temptations, Satan! 😉

 

(How is the performance vs Windoze? Which version of Proton(-GE) are you using?)

Performance difference seems indiscernable compared to Windows with 100+ FPS... (~60 FPS with "High" ray tracing) with "High" global settings. It is very smooth. I am using the Steam "Experimental" version of Proton. (The game is not available to install with the normal verson.) It runs flawlessly and the installation was as painless (essentially effortless) as installing on Windows.

Crysis 3 Remastered on KDE Plasma... very smooth experience.

Crysis 3 Remastered on Linux...

1 hour ago, Clamibot said:

Does anyone know if a 420mm radiator will fit in the Cougar Panzer Max case? I have this case and the manual/documentation for it only says it supports up to a 360mm radiator both top and front mounted, but you can front mount three 140mm fans. I have a 360mm radiator front mounted, and it looks like there's a good 1.5-2 inches extra height.

 

I ask because I want to get the Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420 when I go out and acquire a 13900K, and I don't want to get another case. Fortunately there are holes in it for external water cooling, so I could go that route as well, but I'd rather stick with an AIO.

It does not appear that it is large enough for a 420mm radiator in top or bottom. I know you already have it, but based on what I see in this video, it does not seem to be an option.

1 hour ago, tps3443 said:

It’s nice too because you can literally set those fans to like 600-700RPM, and get peak performance. Those radiators are very very low FPI. They can even cool 300 watts 100% passively, maybe more. 
 

 

I am using Artic F12 fans, which are very low speed at maximum RPM, so they run full blast with no mechanism to control the speed. It works out really well. They are very quiet and they have adequate static pressure. The way Alphacool designed the fan mounting plate with the round holes there is no place for the air to leak. You can use any kind of fan (square or round with tabs) and not have to worry about static pressure loss. The only direction the air can leave is through the radiator, or backdraft through the fan blades.

This worked out nicely as a dust/lint filter for the XT45 1080 Nova radiator. The product is made better than I expected it to be. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B092249XQJ

6 hours ago, Reciever said:

I stopped using LinkedIn, I get nothing but spam and ideology there these days.

Very much so. I hate it for both of those reasons. Disgusting garbage. Unfortunately, my employer uses it for networking with clients and prospects and I cannot purge that filth from my life as easily as Facepoot and Twatter. I will not engage in social media at all where business is concerned. Too easily abused and leveraged. I have a complete profile and have had one since the time of launch. Don't message me there. Notifications are ignored and emails are marked as spam. When the Redmond Retards took over, it got exponentially worse at an accelerated pace. It is predictable with more than 90% accuracy that the moment you let someone "join your network" you are going to get unwanted communication in one form or another. The other 10% is someone looking to build a fake social network or an appearance of favor for the purpose of being found by headhunters.

3 hours ago, KING19 said:

 

They make it hard for people to feel sorry for them after these same employees been shadowbanning people they dont like politically for BS reasons for years. I am no fan of Elon but seeing these elites, the media and the woke losing their minds over what Elon doing with twitter especially yesterday by unbanning Trump is pretty damn entertaining!. Wish he kept Twitter Blue though, Blue checkmark Elites was freaking out over paying a $8 month and allowing regular people to get access to the blue checkmark too.

 

Elon would be a hero in my book if he destroys twitter, Its nothing but a toxic cesspool anyways. Take Facebook and half of reddit with it as well. It would be a win for humanity!.

Yup, same... 

In fact, hard to not be pleased to see their misfortune, and I really hate feeling that way. Out of character for me, but it is so just and deserved. Their pain is a tiny drop in the bucket compared to all of the people they have deliberately set out to harm, with prejudice and malice and reverse-bigotry. As they say, "payback is a..." I am fine with Musk being the self-appointed vigilante to take out the garbage. Long overdue. If not him, then who would have had the ability to make it right? Probably nobody. Would have remained a leftist cess pool indefinitely.

The irrational hatred of Musk is exactly the same as the irrational hatred of Trump and Trump-followers. The left has gotten too big for their britches and they are incensed by the idea that anyone has the gall to challenge them or publicly repudiate their agenda. When someone has the financial means to expose their ridiculousness and corruption in all of its filthy glory they go off the rails cuckoo. Sadly, it is with the support and manipulative disinformative power of the mainstream media shill clown possee. It isn't about being Blue or Red, Left or Right with these people. It's about demonizing anyone who does not agree with their agenda and using that demonization to draw attention away from how utterly idiotic and irrational their agenda is. 

2 hours ago, jaybee83 said:

 

haha nice, are u replaying them now, one by one? im doing the same with the Wolfenstein series, so awesome to see them all absolutely maxxxxed out and ultra fluid 😁

Yes, it is awesome. I love Wolfenstein series as well. I did not know they had remastered versions.

Brother @ryandid you grab these on Steam already? I already had Crysis Remastered, but I snagged Crysis 2 and 3 Remastered on sale for dirt cheap the other day. They not only look fantastic, but it is wonderful having all of my Crysis titles under Steam instead of Origin. Interesting that they run really smooth on my turdbook with the P5000. The 16GB Quadro handles ray tracing much better than expected. It is unfortunate the P5000 cannot be overclocking and the vBIOS cannot be unlocked (per @Prema). It's a decent MXM option except for that limitation. (Not that I "need to" because it performs fine stock, but the fact that I can't is emotionally disturbing.)

Tony contacted me about the clear plastic on the thermal pad. He was sure that was why the memory chip had failed and I explained that the clear plastic was on it for storage (keep dust off the pads) and that almost the whole life of the GPU was run on a full block.

@tps3443 - so, I sanded down the underside of the IHS until the IHS was sitting sloppy loose on the die with an air gap so it would rock slightly due to the lip around the perimeter not making contact with the PCB and that helped. Temps improved ~5°C.

I also investigated the copper IHS more closely and I think I can fix it by taking a tiny bit of material off the length of the wing using a Dremmel tool on the side where the CPU frame holds it captive. It is just a tiny bit too long to fit into that notch. I can make it fit using force, but that won't be good for mounting. It should fit loosely, not tightly. Should work fine after that. I will attempt that project another day.

6 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Interesting rambling. Might be useful info.

This was useful. Adding 120mV (as he demonstrated) over the 0.090mV default CPU PLL, Ring PLL and SA PLL voltage (set each to 1.020V versus "Auto" default of 0.90V) and slightly increasing my VCCSA to 1.300V and bumping VCCIN from 1.900V to 2.000V added stabiliy to my memory overclock. I did this on both the Strix and Dark, and oddly enough while helping both it decreased my memory temperatures a couple of degrees somehow. Maybe "Auto" was causing something to adjust to compensation for those PLL voltages being too low at the default 0.090V.

The Blueanon platform losing their minds is a good thing as far as I am concerned. I can't really see a downside to it. Elon is a fixer. He takes over broken companies and makes them useful and relevant. The loss of control of the narrative for the left is what the world needed. A "free-speech platform" needs to be a free-speech platform. It wasn't.

LOL... hilarious meme

Interesting rambling. Might be useful info.

LoL. I agree with Chris. This needed to happen. It evolved into a scummy mess. Somebody needed to clean it up. It had become a political tool of misinformation for the extreme left. It's only a tragedy if you were part of the problem and now you don't have a platform.

15 minutes ago, Etern4l said:

 

If there is any justice in the world, they can also lose some business to AMD due to bad pricing and inventory shenanigans, and I hope they do.

I fear there is not any. We see lots of examples suggesting there is not. Being evil is rewarded and nothing good goes unpunished.

I think there are lots of people that are like me and not willing to forgive AMD for their past failures. I might, eventually. Maybe. I harbored hate for them almost a decade. Gave them a second chance with 5950X and they totally blew it. Silly me. I guess it serves me right for listening to fanboys and thinking we valued the same things. Might be another decade before I allow them a chance at redemption. Mind you, that doesn't mean that I love Intel or NVIDIA. No sir... only that they haven't failed me as hard or disappointed me so severely. The truth is, they suck as well. None of them deserve our money or forgiveness. 

2 hours ago, tps3443 said:

 

I use my computer for work everyday managing a team of agents, so I use that as an excuse lol. Nothing wrong with running the fastest cpu/ memory available.  It certainly helps. 

100%... Makes work a lot more fun. And, that's the story of Banshee's life. 40-60 hours a week is doing work and the fact that she is overclocked, overvolted, loving every minute of it, makes it more fun to work. I've actually gotten more than a few reactions during teleconferences with desktop sharing and people see the AIDA64 Sensor Panel and some are like, "OMG, you're nuts man." Especially so of those that know what clock speeds their own computers run.  Same with sharing my webcam and they see Wraith over my right shoulder and they're like, "What is that huge glass thing behind you with the clear water hoses?"

2 hours ago, Etern4l said:

 

TBH 4080 looks like a stawman that's been put out there to get people to spend even more money on a 4090... 

Maybe so, but I really do suspect the Green Goblin is just so self-absorbed and greedy that they were hoping more people would be stupid with their wallets. They can always lower the price. If people are as stupid as they had hoped, they make even more. It would be difficult to imagine these shysters allowing themselves to get caught in a scenario where they did not win. It's more like how big, or how small, is your win this time GG? If they loved customers as much as they love money iit would be a beautiful thing. It's unfortunate that they don't love customers even a little bit. They only care how much moolah they can extract from them before they're bled dry. I'm not sure this isn't equally true of Intel and AMD, but they do a better job of pretending to care about what customers want. NVIDIA is just too conceited and self-centered to pretend. The company is a reflection of Jensen in the same way the piece of garbage Windows has become is a reflection of Sadsack Nutella.

Anyone that calls the purchase of technology an "investment" is either a lunatic or a liar. Sometimes using technology is necessary, but it is worse than a car at not holding its value. And, most of us would absolutely not tolerate poor quality and incompetence on the same order of magnitude with an automobile that we typically do with buggy crap technology. Yet, poor quality and incompetence are status quo.

Twitter and Facebook are as much or more of a political tool of the radical extremist left than legitimate businesses. Being a major contributing tool to global misinformation and agenda-driven opinion manipulators, I am happy to see something like this come unraveled. I do feel bad for people that lost their means of supporting a family, but that could be lessened to the extent they were actually drinking the Kool-Aid rather than merely enjoying a paycheck doing what they were paid/told to do. To the extent any were thrilled with the opportunity to contribute to the cause, I honestly have no more sympathy than I would for a hit man that didn't get paid for his last assassination.

55 minutes ago, Reciever said:

This is framed as if there aren't better options? There is plenty left in the world outside of Musks domain. 

 

As long as both parties agree to terms (free from duress) and engage then I don't see the issue. I'm pretty sure I am not in the majority though. I have to cite state law and verbiage of the employee handbook to argue my way out of a lunch break, if I need a minute to collect my thoughts and scope the day that's a 15 minute legally required break. 

 

My work is repetitive but requires a clear head, eating food dulls my focus in the later half so I just have some caffeine and water, neither of which requires a 30 minute time out. 

 

If I had to put a finger on the mentality its likely come out of my time in contracting as well as the framing of, my time on this earth is finite. I do not care that you are compensating me for my time, you are still wasting it. 

I remember someone asking about the rep icons being updated. I always wish I had one of those red "100" tags. 😉

11 minutes ago, Etern4l said:

Looks like this is just for quick CPU tests/heatsink tests to avoid messing around with the paste.

Carbonaut won't even work for that. It is too fragile. You have to use a generic (Panasonic) sheet or the IC Diamond option if you want it to hold up to remounts.

I have not tried Carbonaut (nor do I plan to waste time doing so) but I tried the Panasonic sheets from Digi-Key and IC Diamond had me test the product they offer before it went to market and both were absolutely horrible. Worst thermals I had ever seen before... to the point of making my overclocked system unusable.

16 hours ago, Reciever said:

I dont mind working extremely long hours as long as I am compensated for the time, but I have essentially, 0 social life, and introverted enough to be able to not engage in society beyond required elements. Im also aware that my perspective is not in the majority. 

Same here, mostly. If you mean majority in the context of the Twitter zombie horde you would be correct. In the context of mainstream, decent citizenry that have not submitted themselves for reprogramming, you're squarely in the normal majority. They want you to think you're in a minority, because people who are concerned about whether or not they are popular will be influenced and subdued by the fear that they are not.

They create a perception of power and greatness by gathering together and excluding or silencing those who think for themselves and won't be intimidated and won't back down on expressing an opposing view.

That's why the liberal social media dictatorship banned so many. Having rational members that are willing to go against the flow is a serious threat to their agenda.

I cancelled my Twatter account after the Thought-Nazi censoring started with all of the irrational orange man bad emotard haters. I created a new account after Musk stepped into oust them. I don't use Twatter or Facepoot for the reason previously mentioned, but wanted to show my support for his hostile takeover of the woke libtard echo chamber. 

8 hours ago, saturnotaku said:

A lot of the people butthurt about Elon cleaning house at Twitter don't seem to have much to say about Amazon, Facebook, Lyft, Salesforce, Cisco, Stripe, Microsoft, and others making significant workforce cuts.

All of the retarded Tech Giants get a pass for their intolerant wokeness and lopsided political correctness.

I am glad that I have no interest in purchasing a GPU right now.

It feels nice that I can say, "Nah, I'm good... no thanks."

4 minutes ago, Etern4l said:

 

They knew the top-side location of the socket + crazy adapter was bad in the 3090 Ti already, hence the attempt to mitigate using the angled socket. Seems like with the Ada consumer cards, someone at Nvidia said "f.. it!" and just left it at the right angle. The workstation cards typically have the socket at the rear of the card. I guess more space that way in most cases, and no need for weird cable routing. Like you said though, the socket location options are limited by the shorter PCB relative to the cooler, to accommodate the rear fan. In theory board partners could have mitigated this (unless they are forced to use Nvidia board designs verbatim), but I guess none of them did.

Yeah, I think the "blow-through" fan thing is also a really stupid gimmick. I know it is subjective, but I think that also detracts from the aesthetic quality of the final product. I find the openings on the backplate to be very unattractive. I also do not like the opening for the four screws and X-bracket on the modern GPUs. I'd much prefer a clean backplate covering up that ugly mess. Overall, I think the back of the newer GPUs is very ugly-looking.

10 minutes ago, johnksss said:

I think it was a good idea, just badly executed. And should have made it more idiot proof. Plugging in a single cable is far better than plugging in 2 to 4 cables. 

Quick search reveals plenty of power cable issues before this came about.

https://www.google.com/search?q=burnt+up+pcie+cables&rlz=1C1ONGR_enUS990US991&sxsrf=ALiCzsbmB0_u8QBJRb7ooANHDLykHsoILQ:1668804057082&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjWmpbIy7j7AhWgLUQIHenxAzMQ_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=2037&bih=850&dpr=1.88

Definitely could have been executed better. I think putting it in a really dumb location at the top center on the PCB and trying too hard to make it a little connector reflect poor planning. They could have done something beefier, like a shorter 12-pin version of the 24-pin motherboard cable. I think making the PCB 2/3 of the length of the GPU cooler created design issues for them that had a cascading effect that caused other issues. Having the cooler be 1/3rd longer than the actual GPU seems really limiting and  restrictive on engineering flexibility. Doing that accomplishes nothing useful for the end-user when the total package is massive. It would be different if the entire GPU were smaller. Then they could move the connector to the end of the PCB facing the opposite direction of the I/O panel. They could have also put it on the back of the PCB through the backplate with a 90° cable so everything would be neat and tidy.