Mr. Fox

I ordered a kit from Rockitcool and now it seems the timing is multiple people are jumping on the bandwagon to make it as normal as it used to be. The 11th Gen abortion and Ryzen had a very chilling effect on the benefits of a delid.

It is also nice to see direct die having potential to become a thing for Ryzen. That's long overdue and much needed for 5950X owners. The delid was a waste of my time and money, but this probably would have made it worth doing.

http://www.supercoolcomputer.com/en/product/43/water-block-direct-die-amd

The Intel kit is out of stock, but I am hoping to snag one when it comes back into stock.

http://www.supercoolcomputer.com/en/product/39/direct-die-intel-gen12

I have one of these for 10th Gen that I have never used. I might try it out on Banshee. It's not ideal if you are constantly fiddling with the hardware because you can't take out the CPU without having to take extra steps to avoid a mess of spilled water, but on a system that is just a daily driver that rarely every gets tinkered with (which is how I use Banshee) it seems like the most effective CPU water cooling option.

I know my surprised look isn't on my face, but confirmation is always appreciated. Windows 11 gives those who still love and continue to use Windows 7 even less incentive to move the the latest OS because it is even more undesirable than Windows 8.X or 10 were.

One survey says Windows 11 adoption hasn't even surpassed Windows XP yet | TechSpot

By Daniel Sims April 17, 2022, 7:42 AM
 

The big picture: Before Windows 11 launched, it was met with controversy over its confusing system requirements. A few months later, data is beginning to show that this may have stalled the operating system's adoption. How severely depends on who you ask.

A survey released by IT company Lansweeper this week paints a dismal picture for Windows 11 adoption among enterprise workstations. Among over 10 million devices surveyed, just 1.44% ran Windows 11. That's less than the 1.71% still using the 20-year-old Windows XP and the 4.7% using Windows 7. Windows 10 predictably dominates, detected on 80.34% of systems.

Another Lansweeper survey of over 30 million devices reveals what is likely a major factor in Windows 11's sluggish adoption: over half of enterprise workstations don't meet its system requirements. Only 44% of systems passed its notorious CPU requirements. The company's numbers come from anonymous scans of systems running its software, not unlike Steam's monthly surveys.

@Papusan

Have a wonderful day, guys. Today is my favorite holiday.

On 4/16/2022 at 9:06 AM, johnksss said:

These are the gpus that finally made it off the ship from being stuck at sea for like over a year. 

And they threw in a few 3090 TI's for good measure.😂

Nice to see some stock available for people that live within driving distance of a MicroCenter. It has been a long time since I saw good inventory counts. Prices are still too high, but after they finish unloading the shipping containers we might see prices come down even further.

11 hours ago, electrosoft said:

Well.... I stand corrected. 12900ks better than my SP91 12900k

 

SP94

P = 102

E = 79

 

Congratulations. It's nice when you can be wrong about something that turns out good.

I have first dibs on it if you decide to sell it. 😄 

16 hours ago, electrosoft said:

I'll pop it in later tonight or tomorrow but my track record with bad bins from Best Buy is pretty epic.

Did you have a chance to see if it is a keeper or a defective sample RMA candidate?

What do you say to Best Buy when you return lousy silicon samples for a refund? (Curious what you tell them.) Do they give you any crap or resistance?

17 hours ago, electrosoft said:

I'm not sure what they or we can do in regards to the GPU if all that is being offered now is non MXM solutions but only BGA options then what? At least with flexible memory and CPU we remove two points of known failure but I agree I am not a fan at all of the soldered on GPU in any way, shape or form.

 

I'd still take this hybrid DTR over the completely soldered BGA laptops that are out there instead though.

The solution is to boycott everything and say no with your wallet. It probably won't matter because we are seriously outnumbered by idiots. Those idiots are the reason the rest of us are screwed. Surrendering isn't a good option though. Calling something good simply because it is the least screwed up option makes being better less relevant. It is a misuse of the word good and a falsehood that perpetuates mediocrity and normalizes suckiness.

Choosing between full and partial BGA is like choosing between two incurable fatal diseases. Better to spend less and expect less than to pay top dollar for permafilth. If you find yourself stuck with having to settle for mobile garbage, spend as little as possible on it and set the bar at basic computing functionality and it won't hurt quite as bad as spending a lot on a disposable soldered piece of crap.

5 hours ago, Reciever said:

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/74309332?

 

My best run tonight after modding additional cooling potential to the P750FM. It seems my scenario is not going to break any records. 😛

 

What do you guys think? Decent performer?

Since I have essentially ignored laptops for several years due to lack of interest, it is almost impossible for me to identify "decent" mobile performance on face value. But, the numbers shows that you are the Fire Strike world record holder for 9700F and mobile 1080. Your closest competitor is an MSI notebook that trails you by roughly 800 points.

3DMark Fire Strike Ranking Results

36 minutes ago, Talon said:

Sorry I meant to type 5000. I used to have a Corsair 450d, still have it in the garage actually. 
 

Then I looked into it a bit more and found it can’t house a 420mm officially. So I may need to spring for the 7000 airflow. I think the 420mm cooler could really help though so I may go for it. 

The 7000D is basically a larger version of the 5000D. The 5000D is super nice and well made, but you can't fit dual 360's in it and you cannot fit a thick 360mm in the top panel like the one I have mounted in the front panel because there is not enough clearance between the top panel and motherboard. If you put a radiator in the top it has to be a normal thickness and even if you go with a slim radiator there is not enough height for push/pull on the top panel mounting unless (maybe) you also go with slim fans. The 7000D has plenty of clearance between the top panel and the mobo. Both 5000D and 7000D support vertical GPU mounting with no need for a bracket. All you need is a PCIe cable. Although I am not sure if a 3+ slot GPU like your 3090 Ti would work in a vertical mount with the stock air cooler. If it did fit, the air flow would most likely be impaired due to close proximity to the side panel.

I would buy the biggest and best you can handle financially. I agree with Brother @electrosoft that you should NOT go below 1000W. If you buy more PSU than you need, you're good to go now or later. As long as it keeps working you never have to worry about getting a bigger PSU later. I realize you are looking to minimize cost right now, so stick with a known reliable brand 1000W minimum. EVGA warranty service is the best.

3 hours ago, Talon said:

Corsair 6000D

Did you mean 5000 or 7000 by chance? I cannot find anything on the 6000 model number.  My 5000 is smaller than I would have liked and wish I had spent more for the 7000D Airflow instead. The Level 20 XT is stinking GIGANTIC and I love that. It will handle 3 420MM radiators if memory serves me correctly.

7 hours ago, Talon said:

Actually the stock RGB 140mm fans at the top are now gone. I have gone to some cheap-o basic black Artic P14s I got on Amazon in a 5 pack. I have them setup in push/pull so it's a tight fit in there lol. I have a lot of air moving through this tiny case. I want to change the Noctua fans to the new Chromax black version, but at $33 a fan I can't justify the cost yet lol. They work and that is what I care about most. 

Looks good, bro. You did fit a lot in there.

@Sandy Bridge nice ride. I think it looks great.

I am not a fan of the RGB rainbow puke and primarily only do white LED. The front fans are blue because I couldn't find white LED, and the blue was not as obnoxious looking as red. I'm considering snipping the wires to the blue LEDs on the front panel fans or replacing the LED diodes with white ones since they are super inexpensive to purchase.

9 hours ago, Papusan said:

All have a Happy Easter 2022 🙂

 

 

@Prema https://hwbot.org/achievement/1070_

Almost as 6th gen Intel mobile processors…. Fully locked. Even under-clocking isn’t allowed.

Overclocking the Ryzen 7 5800X3D is not possible. The BIOS does offer the usual options to change the multiplier, but these have no effect. Reducing the multiplier to underclock has no effect either.

I also tried adjusting the base clock from 100 MHz to 103 MHz, but that didn't even POST.

 

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-5800x3d/22.html

Those muppet children are so happy because each of their Easter eggs have a 5800X3D inside.

The issue that I find more disturbing than the idiots at AMD releasing a castrated piece of trash like that is that there are people stupid enough to buy it after hearing of its flaws because it's a "gaming CPU" LOL.

Maybe this is a test that serves a business purpose for AMD to find out how high they can raise the bar on mediocrity and nonsense, as in how  much they can get away with and how much of it their Kool-Aid drinking sheeple are willing to put up with.

On 3/31/2022 at 2:43 PM, ryan said:

yeah I decided to hang on to it and go the egpu route in a few years...not a heavy gamer so i should be set for a while

Smart move, by a smart guy.

On 4/1/2022 at 7:32 PM, aldarxt said:

These new laptops are starting to look like smart phones

I bought this GOBOXX SLM  G2721 2 mos ago for $800 bucks on ebay and I aint buying another new until I can get a robot dog that can jump up on my bench and turn into a laptop

Many of them are little more than a glorified smartphone. Hardware is being toned down and the OS dumbed down. That said, they are not as unpleasant and cumbersome.

Here is a thread to show off your system. I know some of you are rocking some pretty darned impressive beasts, so don't be shy about sharing your passion.

You can highlight the build in whatever manner you feel appropriate, whether it is focusing on certain components, the customizations you have done, or simply posting pretty pictures of your pride and joy. If the details you are sharing are not already captured in your signature, please add a list of the components/specs.

WRAITH 2.0 - For Fun

BANSHEE 2.0 - For Work

@Papusan @pathfindercod @electrosoft @Talon @johnksss @Rage Set @Reciever - all of you have stuff worthy of bragging about here.

I think this might be my favorite Linux desktop look/feel. It is a mixture of Windows 7 and 10 GUI elements.

The information is there, but it is not at our fingertips the way it was with Windows 7 and earlier versions of Windows 10. 

One of the issues that holds Linux back from being a better product is Linux zealots that are driven by irrational hate. They are just little bit worse than the dummies that complain that Linux isn't exactly the same as the reason(s) people leave Windows in favor of Linux. Somewhere in the middle, the "do what makes sense" and not being hesitant to copy or emulate a good idea we would find a solution but for the extremists on opposing ends of the spectrum.

The 5800X3D seems like it is designed to make a PC the equivalent of an overpriced gaming console. 

7 hours ago, electrosoft said:

Like Intel, they had to respond with something instead of just admitting defeat for the moment and ride it out till their next gen product is announced.

I think I would have a whole lot more respect for all of the Big Tech vendors if they would come right out and say, "Sorry kids... we've got nothing new right now. When we do you can be sure that it will be awesome, but there is no point in us wasting your money or burning our own calories on releasing crap just for the sake of saying we have something new when it is actually nothing special. So, please spend your money on the killer stuff that we already gave you, or take time to enjoy it if you already have, and just chill until something great surfaces."

So, I had been using primarily Linux Mint and Pop_OS! with Cinnamon DE. With my recent upgrade to 12900K there were a number of things not working.  

I discovered that the latest beta of Fedora adds functionality to what was broken with Mint and Pop_OS! In particular cpupower-gui works as intended. You can now control the clocks of each core (both P and E core). I like it better than the last version of cpupower-gui that I was using with 10th Gen. It adds a good amount of features that older versions did not have.

Okey-dokey. As the title implies, here is a thread for Linux users to share new information, tips, tweaks and help others fix issues they encounter using the Windows replacement of their choice.

Nice. Fedora/RHEL added 12th Gen support and now the cpupower-gui utility works properly. You can change clocks per P-core and E-core from the Linux desktop.

1 hour ago, Talon said:

I am waiting for the GPU firesale that is likely going to happen on eBay or OfferUp soon enough. I will grab a good "slightly mined on" GPU to put together a cheap rig. 

I hope the scalping bastard pigs that hoarded GPUs and drove the prices to insane levels lose many millions or even billions of dollars and flood the market with more GPUs than the market can come even remotely close to handling. It would be great if GPUs started selling for like 20% of MSRP with a supply that is 5 or 10 times greater than the demand, LOL. Imagine getting a 3060 for $150 or a 3090 for $350, and as many as you want. That would be awesome.

3090 SLI for benching. 😁

Edit: with a BIG power supply. No 500W gamerboy PSU.

Unrelated matter, last night I was looking at a lot of things closely and noticed the Cablemods sleeved cables were getting kind of scary looking. I already knew some of the 24-pin motherboard wires had melted insulation from the 7980XE overclocking making the cables overheat. I saw the same thing starting to happen on all three 8-pin GPU cables. One more so than the other two. So, I installed the brand new EVGA 8-pin GPU and 24-pin motherboard cables that came with the 1600W PSU that I had never used.