Mr. Fox

@Reciever I still love my modded 2080 Ti. It is an awesome GPU. If you are not competing for leaderboard status, I would say it is a winner if you can buy it right. The difference in performance between a shunted 2080 Ti with modded firmare and a standard 3090 is much smaller than a standard 2080 Ti and 3090.

I am not interested in a GPU upgrade right now. Prices are still too high and 3090 Ti doesn't offer enough of a boost for the cost. Maybe if I were on an older GPU that might be worth considering.

Even if I were looking for a GPU upgrade right now I don't think I would buy another KPE or any other GPU with an oddball PCB. FTW3 might be as proprietary as I would consider, because they generally have at least a few options available for GPU blocks. But, even an FTW3 has fewer options than a GPU built with a reference PCB does. I think that I would prefer to just butcher the GPU  with hardware mods, force flash modded firmware and void the warranty than limit myself on available cooling options.

I just flat-out do not trust AMD at all. You won't find any of the Team Red fanboys griping about the issues 5950X has and I found out the hard way that things are not a rosey as they pretend they are. I just don't need to complicate my life with their performance-tuning resistant buggy garbage. They have made significant progress, but not enough for me to entertain the idea of exposing myself to another round of disappointment by rolling the dice on a sketchy product that has severe flaws the fanboys won't acknowledge. Waiting around hoping and praying that they are going to fix their messes with firmware updates someday is just silly.

11 hours ago, Papusan said:

A slap in the face to those that bought the 3090.

Yes, indeed. Very much so. But, I expect betrayal from NVIDIA as long as they stand to make a buck, and mediocrity from AMD.  They always stick to things they are good at. Par for the course.

11 hours ago, Papusan said:

EVGA's New eLeash Keeps Its RTX 3090 TI Graphics Cards in Line. Nice they are able to offer it for free and not charging another 20$ on top of the new cards costs😀

Yes. I saw that too, and thought to myself... 

That "bonus" item had to cost them at least 0.02% of the total cost of the GPU.

Very generous. And, tacky. But, at least I don't have to buy one from Dollar Tree.

6 hours ago, electrosoft said:

As predicted, same 3090 vs same 3090ti you're seeing a 5-10% uplift. I expect the KPE 3090ti to offer the same gap at the least.

Eww, eww, OMG! Let me hurry up and spend another $2200 on a 5% performance bump. 

Not! 

But, thank you for taking decisive steps to devalue my 3090. I really appreciate that, Green Goblin.

Bastards.

29 minutes ago, johnksss said:

Thanks sir!

 

Yes, I know what you mean! That is a serious bummer to say the least, but in my defense I was not about to wait on that damn Optimus block that may or may not be made...made or may not be made and shipped in the near future. Block does look awesome though!

I ordered one in July and canceled in December after it was not shipped yet and no ETA could be provided. Some people have received theirs but come on that's just ridiculous. They didn't seem to mind sitting on my $650 for 5 months though LOL.

18 hours ago, johnksss said:

My HC also showed up today, but I have yet to install it. Looks brand new and never before used, so I'm pretty happy about that.

Wonderful news. That is a good reason to be happy, for sure. I am glad it worked out. As much as I like EVGA and their products, I am starting to have seconds thoughts about buying their products going forward because of their inability to service replacement parts. That problem kind of  casts a dark shadow on an otherwise really great company, and it makes me feel sad.

1 hour ago, Papusan said:

Microsoft try hard as they can to make Win 11 worse as desktop OS. The future is a real OS for tablets/2 in 1 lap-jokes. Todays new Joke from Redmond HQ @Mr. Fox @Ashtrix

 

Windows 11: Microsoft may be planning to remove another minor taskbar feature windowslatest.com
 

 

For those unaware, Microsoft recently started testing a tablet-optimized taskbar with two states: collapsed and expanded. The plan is to reduce the clutter (temporarily remove certain features from the taskbar) when the system detects your device as a ‘tablet’, so the taskbar can be easily used with touch.

 

However, there’s a catch – Microsoft is also removing features from the desktop version of the taskbar to optimize it for tablets. In Build 22563 or newer, it is no longer possible to reorder or drag and drop icons within the system tray.

 

I wonder what works perfectly fine in the latest and greatest. 

Microsoft Releases Optional Windows 11 Update with Tons of Bugfixes and One Small Feature

 

A future that isn't worth living... nice. No thanks. They can put that tablet crap where the sun don't shine, along with the crappy OS designed for it. Nasty finger salute to the Redmond Retards. May their survival be difficult and filled with countless DMCA violations. They deserve nothing less than immeasurable struggle and financial hardship.

35 minutes ago, Papusan said:

Maybe try an older XTU version for the BCLK clocks.

Comments from the video...

3 hours ago, Tenoroon said:

I'm installing and updating Win7 right now on my Alienware

And, here it is in my old Alienware archive. [ Download XTU 4.2.0.8 ]

53 minutes ago, Tenoroon said:

Yeah, I saw that video thinking it was it and it wasn't. I found what I was looking for, my memory was wrong as it wasn't a video, but a thread you made on the old forums. 

Yes, the video was merely a multimedia prop created for that thread. It is sad how much valuable information will be lost from the death of that community. Even sadder that Tech Target doesn't care. Glad you found it in the archive.

1 hour ago, Tenoroon said:

@Mr. FoxI'm installing and updating Win7 right now on my Alienware, but I had to reset the BIOS (it's a long story.) Unless I am wrong, and I might be, I remember you making a video of a BIOS walkthrough on one of your Alienware 18's for the 4930mx, and I'm pretty sure I used that video a long time ago to adjust my BIOS. I can't find the video anymore, did it ever exist in the first place? If so, do you know where it went? 

It's still there. You just didn't go far enough back in my channel. You need to rewind 8 years LOL. It was almost 10 years ago that Alienware released their last good laptop. It is stupefying that people still buy their broken trash, even though it gets more broken with each generation. 

17 hours ago, Papusan said:

And laptops will only be thinner and thinner. Wil also the ssd performance be crippled with Pcie 5.0 ssd's? 

Probably so. It seems the focus is more on the product and model names that appear in the list of hardware specifications rather than the numbers produced in terms of actual results. It appears that working well is optional as long as the list of specs is impressive to the kiddos.

Kind of like naming your Chihuahua "Killer" even though its ability to inflict severe injury or death is non-existent. 

4 hours ago, ryan said:

whats settings were you using bro @Mr. Fox

Something about Crysis Remastered just doesn't play nicely with Linux. I had to tone all of the settings down to medium and high, and whatever form of ray tracing they used slows to a crawl on Linux. It's the only game of those tested with a framerate lower than normal, but it is still very playable even though the benchmarked results are abnormally low for a 3090. It may also be something with DirectX. Most Windows games played on Linux use Vulkan, where that is an option, instead of DirectX.

If you do not see an option for anything relating to it in the monitor firmware (OSD) then maybe the specs indicate support for it in error.

Add Call of Duty Infinite Warfare and WWI to the list.

Hi. Sorry, I can't be much use here because I always disable G-Sync and don't use FreeSync. If there ever were an issue I would not be aware of it for that reason.

On 3/25/2022 at 5:20 PM, Mr. Fox said:

Today I had a few minutes to spare and installed Steam on Pop_OS! and I chose 7 games from my library randomly. Of the 7 chosen, only one didn't work (Gears 5). Of the 6 that worked, all had over 100 FPS except for Crysis Remastered. It was still very playable, but seems to have some issues that slow it down, and it might work better with an older GeForce driver. By my measurements, the gaming experience was the equivalent of running the same game on Windows. Nothing was missing or messed up. I will test more for functionality and share what I find.

 

On 3/25/2022 at 5:07 PM, Mr. Fox said:

So, I played around with Linux a little more. Installed 7 Windows games from Steam, chosen completely at random, and the only one that did not work was Gears 5. These are the only 7 I have tried and 6 out of 7 ain't bad. Bright Memory Infinite, Crysis Remastered, Death Stranding,  Doom Eternal, Metro Exodus Enhanced Edition and Quake 2 RTX all played well. Only Crysis Remastered had a low framerate for the quality of my hardware.

 

So, I did a little more playing around and the next 6 games tested also functioned under Linux marvelously. Crysis Remastered got a bump in FPS as well, as I had forgotten to enable Proton Experimental for it. Halo Master Chief (tested Combat Evolved and Halo 4), Rise of the Tomb Raider and Shadow of the Tomb Raider, Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare and WWII are all working.

Edit: well, add Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare and Call of Duty: WWII to the Linux play list.

It is difficult to find value in any kind of new tech. Everything is priced for more than it's worth on both mobile and desktop, and a lot of the expensive cutting edge stuff has compromises. If what you have is getting the job done, the best plan is to do nothing at all and keep using what you already have. You can expect that new stuff is going to include everything you hate about what you already have, plus some new crap you're going to dislike that wasn't invented yet the last time money burned a hole in your pocket 

7 hours ago, Katja said:

Given I ended up getting a Ryzen system, I'll just stick with LTSC; Win11 is just venereal disease for an OS at this point.

It's so difficult to understand how anyone could actually like it and think it's good. But, in some countries various things that are disgusting, like insects and rodents, are consumed on a regular basis and sometimes considered delicacies, so go figure.

14 hours ago, Aaron44126 said:

I think it can be expected that Windows 11 users running on “unsupported hardware” will have to take manual action to upgrade to 22H2 and all future Windows 11 “feature upgrade” builds.  This would be the case if they are trying to get them through the Insider Program (beta or release preview channel), or after it is officially released.  They won’t be pushed down through Windows Update.

In my mind that is a good thing. I take active steps to block them from molesting my computers with update filth and if I want a version upgrade I will handle that myself on my own terms.

On 3/25/2022 at 10:28 PM, Tenoroon said:

Hahahaha, included the 51m on my paper to show how mainstream manufactures have failed to deliver on a "truly upgradeable" performance laptop. I'll be honest, my paper bashed Dell/Alienware a lot, but its deserved as a lot of their problems fit into my topic well.

Don't feel bad about calling them out. Any ill will and hate cast their way was foreseeable and should have been expected as an immediate and direct result of their deliberate bad choices and material misrepresentations as a company. When public ridicule is ineffective as a remedy you know it is time to pull the plug and walk away... do not resuscitate. Any company that behaves like that is not worthy of life support. In my mind, that kind of deceptive product representation and misleading behavior is tantamount to signing their own death warrant.

51 minutes ago, Papusan said:

People will still get a taste of that 5.5 single core boost 🙂

And, the exceptionally ignorant ones will actually care about it rather than focusing on multi-core capabilities.

It is good to see the Redmond Retards continue to fail hard with decisions that demonstrate they are a cluster of imbeciles. This has potential to be useful as a means of signing their own death warrant. It confirms their nefarious intent and documents the fact that they are unworthy of patronage. Even some of the Kool-Aid drinking sheeple will be smart enough to know when it is time to draw a line in the sand with respect to how much idiocy they will tolerate.

2 hours ago, Papusan said:

12900KS will come at $220 Premium. A nice small sub 33% uplift in price point for new revamped features as Enhanced Thermal Velocity Boost (ETVB) technology + 1bin higher clock speed for the Baby cores. A great feature intended to stop the chips from become unstable once the chips run near or above Intel's 70C induced temp limit. At least the e-cores will run at its peak clock speed regardless of the new boost feature's temp limit, LOOL

 

Hope you'll get an good bin for that money and not only have to pay for the new features. No wonder Silicon lottery throw in the towel last year due Intel's new bin policy. They just couldn't compete.

 

 

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-core-i9-12900ks-available-at-newegg

 

Also nvidia want a bit more $$$ for their 3090 graphics. Open the gates for 2% more cores (12900KS also got sub 2% faster multicore boost over the regular K chips) and brand it it Ti. KS andTi letters is today's golden milkcow.

 

https://videocardz.com/newz/msi-geforce-rtx-3090-ti-suprim-x-leaked-3-5-slot-design-with-16-pin-connector-and-480w-tdp 

 

If there was a "guarantee" that you would get a better bin than almost any 12900K anyone has ever seen, I would be willing to pay the extra $200 for a 12900KS. But, a 100MHz bump for $200 is stupid. It would only make sense if you had an abnormally poor quality 12900K, Otherwise, I would save the $200 and give a lesser quality CPU more voltage.

1 hour ago, Aaron44126 said:

I was just looking at this earlier this evening.  I haven't tried it (no Linux install outside of a VM here) but I am curious to see your thoughts, if you do happen to try it.

https://lutris.net/about

 

Appears to be a frontend to multiple libraries built specifically for Linux.  I was looking at it because I saw people commenting that it does a good job getting Wine set up to run Windows-only games on Linux, setting parameters and so forth so that you don't really have to worry about much.  I'm also into emulators to run older console games on the PC, and it looks like it has some integrations into that space as well.

Yes, Lutris is a front end for wine and it works really well. I use it for running Cinebench (all versions) on Linux and it is fairly easy to use. It is not super-intuitive, but I taught myself how to use it through trial and error (on purpose) rather than reading a tutorial or looking for YouTube videos. Lutris can also be used to combine access to games titles from multiple clients (Steam, Origin, Uplay, etc.) into a common interface. If most of your games are in Steam, then you don't really need it for Steam because Proton and the "experimental" option works extremely well with many Windows-only games. It sort of launches each title in its own little virtual machine.

1 hour ago, Hertzian56 said:

Games and other software that really only work on Windows native are the large reason I've never delved too deeply into Linux, the minute it's all there out of the box, for lazy dummys it's goodbye windows. Looks pretty cool, I had problems getting Gears 5 working on windows at first so it's not a surprise on linux.  I would suggest moving this thread to the gaming section, really important to get the word out.

It is getting really close, I think. The DX12-only titles are problematic, but even those that all DX11 and Vulkan seem to work well on Linux. I think it is important to get the word out. I believe there are many people hanging by a thread that would love to kick Windows trash OS to the curb and the only thing holding them back is gaming or a certain software title that they believe they can't live without.

Steam Proton makes Linux gaming nearly effortless because it does all of the configuration in the background. Installing and launching a Windows game in Steam looks and feels no different than installing or launching the same title in Windows. 

I debated whether to add the thread here or the gaming section and went with this option because this section of the forum is for Linux. But, the logic is certainly there for either location. Pros and cons to both. I will let @Reciever and @Hiew decide if they want to move it. It would be nice if there could be something like a "shortcut" to it in one place or the other that lead to the same thread, but gives the appearance on the surface that the thread is in both locations. I am not sure if that kind of option is available with Invision.
 

I will definitely continue tinkering with Steam Proton to see how many of the games I like (many in my library I do not like and never install them in Windows), If anyone has a request they want me to test, if I have it in my Steam library I can test it even if it is not a title that I personally enjoy. 

Here are the titles in my Steam library: https://steamcommunity.com/id/mr_fox_rox/games/?tab=all

Today I had a few minutes to spare and installed Steam on Pop_OS! and I chose 7 games from my library randomly. Of the 7 chosen, only one didn't work (Gears 5). Of the 6 that worked, all had over 100 FPS except for Crysis Remastered. It was still very playable, but seems to have some issues that slow it down, and it might work better with an older GeForce driver. By my measurements, the gaming experience was the equivalent of running the same game on Windows. Nothing was missing or messed up. I will test more for functionality and share what I find.

Ok folks. Here is a thread to discuss, share, troubleshoot, ask questions, celebrate or complain about Linux gaming.

Linux has come a long, long way recently. In great part possibly because of Steam and Proton support. 

What do you enjoy playing when running Linux?

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