Mr. Fox

The preview is too small to see anything and if I click the image to enlarge it I get a "Bad Gateway" error.

Awesome, thanks. I will reply if I notice an improvement or an issue.

So, I put one of the OptimusPC full cover thermal pads on the 3090 KPE. It produced a modest improvement in temperatures. The backplate doesn't gets as crazy hot directly over the core and memory components and the entire backplate gets warmer than it used to. (Seems completely logical, as the heat is being more evenly distributed across the backplate than before.) It is a little better overall. But, it wasn't the major improvement I was hoping for. I used EVGA OC Scanner's Furmark Memory Burner tool for 5 minutes before and after, so that is also a pretty brutal test. We will see how it does with the backplate water block once it gets here. This should be a good foundation for the backplate water block to work more effectively.

It probably will not launch on newer versions of W10/11. I know it won't on my systems. It only works on LTSC 2019 (1809) and older because the newer OSes are too screwed up. Here is a link to download it from my Google Drive. Feel free to download it and try it though. I would if I were in your shoes. It is often hard to find good bin quality in CPUs below the flagship model. Your benchmark is not accurate because both GPUs are selected. Uncheck the Intel graphics and run it again. Notice it says 2 GPUs.

Yup. CPU, GPU, RAM, WIFI, storage... soldered is bantha fodder. Touchpads with discrete buttons also suck, but not nearly as much as buttonless clickpads do. Amen. Common sense is becoming very difficult to identify. Laptop engineers seem to be collectively devoid of it.

You and @Hieware doing a nice job of keeping the new house in order. The competing forum (for lack of a better term) doesn't seem to be well-kept. They are leaving spambot feces all over the place, including porno garbage. Posts have been reported and some ignored for days now. Examples: https://www.laptopforum.net/forumdisplay.php?fid=39

For all of the Z690 early adopters, this thread is an interesting read. Brother @Rage Setis your Strix a Z690-A board or something else? Asus Strix Z690-A Issues

That is odd. Try running Cinebench with ThrottleStop running with the "Limits" window open and see if anything like "VMax Stress" shows up as a performnce limiter. That was something that did not exist with the Z490 Dark and it made my 10900K run like crap on the Z590 Dark. It did not show evidence of throttling looking at the core clocks, but did lower benchmark scores. With that VMax crap disabled using ThrottleStop my Cinebench scores jumped way up. See that, I had @Prema unlock all of the BIOS menus for me and disabling VMax Stress stopped the problem. The stock Z590 Dark had it hidden and enabled. After that I reached out to EVGA to get them to expose the PPD and VMax Stress options. I could not test it since I sold the Z590 Dark as new/sealed box, but Brother @tps3443tested it and found it working much better. Your ASUS BIOS might have the option exposed to disable VMax Stress. It was super-stupid that EVGA had it hidden. The 10850K ran even worse on the Z590 Dark. It would VMax Stress throttle to like 4.7GHz if I set the core ratio above 53x. The 10900K clocks did not drop, but performance somehow did. Not sure if it pulled back the power limits or what. It was also weird that 10850K and 10900K behaved differently from one another, but both had sucky performance because of the VMax Stress baloney being enabled. Without the BIOS menus exposed to disable it, the only way I could get proper performance at higher clock speeds was to launch ThrottleStop with VMax Stress disabled.

I had not really noticed it before, but since you guys mentioned it I refreshed the page and see now what you are referring to. If I had a slower internet connection it might be kind of annoying, but the images load very quickly as I scroll down the page. I am assuming the "pop" that @Rage Set mentioned is how they instantly/sudden appear on the page as you scroll down. Not sure if that is what that means or not. One additional thing I did notice was if I was like half way down the page when I refreshed it would load the page at the same place I was at prior to the page being refreshed, but then it would scroll itself up to the top of the page almost as if I were scrolling the page myself. Very odd, and I had not noticed that before.

Sorry, bro. That is not good.

Seems to be working well. Using an image host and using links works best to preserve image quality on larger images, but the forum seems to be working great for me.

Maybe after Steve Burke's GamersNexus videos they figured it was time to get their act together again, pronto. I hope so anyway. Now, if they will knock it off with the $200 membership racketeering thing to be eligible to purchase GPUs we will be making some headway. Good that they price-matched. Congrats on that.

Sold and shipped the Z590 Dark today. Started this thread: EVGA Z590 Dark BIOS Mod with PPD and VMax Stress Menu Options

Me, too. I do not plan to stop using Windows 7 for as long as I can acquire drivers that work with my hardware. It is unfortunate that newer versions haven't actually brought measurable improvements and introduced functionality regressions, reduced configurability, less efficient navigation, and performance degradation due to unwarranted amounts of frivolous bundled trash. I no longer use any consumer versions of Windows 10 and ruled out Windows 11 as an acceptable option. I still have W11 installed on my turdbook, but no longer boot into it. I will reclaim the drive space wasted on it the next time I have a reason to power it on. Every system I have is a multi-boot configuration that includes Windows 7 and Linux. For Windows 10 I am using exclusively LTSC 2019 and 2021 (the latter sucks compared to the former) due to the enormous payload of garbage the standard Pro/Enterprise versions carry. (Using a Home version has been totally out of the question since that option was introduced long before W10.) The move to DCH driver crap and the artificial reliance on Micro$lop Store to provide things like NVIDIA and Intel Control Panels is totally unacceptable. They are either stupid or don't care (behavior suggests the latter, but the former is also indicated by the inferiority of the product itself) that their actions are unacceptable to a lot of technically savvy people that would have preferred to remain dedicated Windows users, but will ultimately find themselves seriously entertaining the idea of moving to Linux as an unavoidable necessity as the lesser of two evils. I am already moving that direction, but definitely not because I want to.

I would love to see a tower case with external 5.25 inch drive bays underneath the bottom floor with the bays facing the same direction as the left side panel. That way it would not waste internal capacity for radiators, fans, pumps and reservoirs. It would need to be slightly elevated, but not a big deal in my mind. For example, positioned like this, but with slightly more elevation... enough space for a full-height 5.25 inch drive bay, or fan controller, etc. The case could have an optional removable bezel on the left side to give a finished look and a removable skirt or sight shield on the opposite side of the chassis to hide the extra cables.

Notebookrevival has kind of a sappy-sounding sense to it, as if to resuscitate an interest that had died or become dormant. And, notebooktalk sounds like the name of a talk radio program. At the end of the day it makes little difference to me what it is called. I would have doubts about a person that made any kind of decision about being a participant in the community on the basis of the URL or domain name. I would say that poor soul needs professional help unrelated to technology that none of us can provide.

A manual fan controller with knobs. You don't have to worry about damaging the cheap fan headers on the motherboard or buggy software garbage. You can run more fans than you would ever need with power to spare. I run 18 fans and three D5 pumps on mine. This is what I use: Lamptron CF525 Fan Controller PRODUCT INFORMATION: The Lamptron CF525 is the spiritual succesor to the classic and powerfull FC2. The CF525 provides a whooping 60w per channel through its 5 channels providing a total of 300w for the power hungry. To put it in perspective, this controller is able to control 10x of the infamous Delta AFB1212GHE-CF00 fans at full speed at the same time (2 per channel). These fans require 29.5W/4.5A each, that’s 24.5A/295W of draw in total! With the CF525 we can safely say you will only ever need one controller in your system regardless of how many cooling solutions you choose to use in terms of power needs. For your consideration, The Lamptron CF525. No Frills, Just Power. Features: - Most powerfull controller in the market - 60w per channel - Very high quality materials - 5 completely independant 60w/5A channels - Other Great Features! - CNC milled aluminium face-plate - Sleeved cables - Black PCB - No frills, just power This would work well in a case with no 5.25-inch drive bays. Probably powerful enough for most uses. Lamptron PCI Bracket 4-Way High Power Fan Controller Product Highlights - Black frosted aluminum panel - Knob control - 4 channel - 36w each - 4-pin terminals compatible with 4pin and 3pin fans - 2-12VDC, fans can be turned off

That will make it easier for your to beat your own scores later. If you do it now there will be nothing to look forward to later. If the GPU is getting hotter so will the CPU on a system with a unified heat sink. That is what happens when the CPU and GPU are constantly puking on one another. Flawed engineering is very popular. Virtually all craptops and notepoots are made this way now. Monkey see, monkey do. The only ones not made that way are no longer made. Stupid is as stupid does.

Excellent. I do exactly the same thing, even with the chilled water. It rarely actually gets "cold" here (almost never below freezing) but having my office around 40-50°F then turning on the chiller for 20 minutes before powering the computer on works much better than trying to chill the water after the office is already full of warm air. It takes a lot longer for the water to get cold and it is more difficult to keep the water ice cold if I am pushing warm air through the condenser.

I would just delete the AMD and Intel MC files from Windows on any version of Windows unless it is a very old version. Totally unnecessary to have them. Just rely on whatever the BIOS has. Locate mcupdate_GenuineIntel.dll and take ownership, then delete. Or, a person can rename it with .old or .not after the .dll if they are weirded out about the idea of deleting system files.

Use Easy Services Optimizer to create an "Extreme" profile with everything disabled, or run MSCONFIG, hide Micro$lop Services and disable everything else (have to reboot). Use Defender Control (or just run a script to remove Defender completely). That will help in addition to setting priority to High or Realtime.

Nice. If you change the priority from Normal to High or Realtime and kill all of the worthless background services and processes that are running and do not need to be, you can probably go even higher.

Because the truth is sometimes painful, people do not like being told that their baby is ugly.

I am not hiding, but for a couple of reasons I do not publicly disclose my first and last name together. The obvious is privacy reasons and identity protection. The second reason is that I like to keep business and pleasure completely separate and my personal comments and opinions are neither the business of my employer, nor a reflection of the values of my employer. Given the nature of the idiotic cancel culture we have lived in for close to a decade it is best that nobody that has any direct influence over my life can connect the two. There are some pretty demented people in positions of power at large corporations and in social media, and I don't want some vindictive militant retard that doesn't like my opinions messing with my career. Better for me if they can't clearly connect the dots. That actually almost happened to me about 10 years ago. I was asked for my opinion. I shared it when asked, then HR placed me on a "final written warning" for answering the question. They didn't like my answer. Since I am in a relatively high position of power, they cared more than they had a right to care that my opinion didn't mesh with their woke definition of political correctness. Basically placed on a "gag order" by HR that I could not ever express my opinion at work again, even if solicitied, without cause for termination.