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electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
KPE 3090ti's are dropping first wave to queue members and auto-notify is gone so Jacob was right when he said limited. $2499.99 w/ 1600 PSU no exceptions. It's a bundle deal. If you didn't queue up you're SOL (if you wanted one). https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=24G-P5-4998-KT -
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Speedy recovery brother! 🙏 -
Nice! And most definitely. See where it lands you at -0.050 - 0.100 uv pull and temps to get an idea of draw and bleed. Also see how it compares versus your current 10900k. I haven't had a chance to really do much of anything with my X170SM-G in weeks with so many other projects on the table I've been churning through (and work). If you have access to a Z490/Z590 motherboard, you can also use my desktop binning chart from five samples I posted earlier:
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I was just thinking about him and his crocs wondering where he went. Good to know he is absent for a good reason! -
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EVGA finally feeling the overstock glut and having barn burner prices on EVERYTHING (right now elite members only for a few days then everybody). Even their 1600w T2 is under $200 brand new for this sale. -
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Good price for a new 12900ks and that P-99 = ~P107-109 on a 12900k. The SP94 12900ks I had was rated exactly the same as my SP91 (P102) yet it was clearly superior both in IMC and pull/clocks but both hit a wall on my LF II 420 at 5.4 all core. -
As long as it was sealed and no air leaked in consistently it should be ok. If it appears excessively runny and grainy it may have degraded as I had that happen with an older tube of CLU a few years ago and the results were subpar. I ended up getting a fresh tube of silver king lm and it was night and day.
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electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Now we're talking! (Heath ledger Joker voice 😁) That CPU is pure garbage. For joe average it will do just fine though. It also shows why 11th and especially 12th priorities for many have shifted to fishing for superior IMCs and ring fixed around 5.2 all core and go from there. Just noticed you picked up a 12900ks, nice. new or used? What SP? P/E? -
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I was 99.99% sure you ran the tables checking everything possible but I've found myself in the past and present letting Asus work its magic to get sticks to suddenly work but with the most horrific latency just to make sure it was possible before returning to manually dialing them in. Yep, booting G1 4200. That's so odd it will only boot G2 for 4000. Where does the system tap out for G1? 3600? The 1504 update did improve stability and compatibility for the sticks I bought from you (those are the ones I ran 4200 G1) but some may still be problematic. What kit is it? I think you'll get clarity as you mentioned before when you plug in your better binned 12900k. You will quickly find out if it is the motherboard or cpu. -
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I went back and checked my data logs for those 12900k's I binned and confirmed the SP81 and SP89 couldn't do 4000 even but did manage 3866 tops not 3733 so it could be the CPU itself. Definitely check your better bin in there and see how it handles it. Did you try setting XMP1 and let Asus "optimize" it for you then bump the frequency only manually up to 4133 just to see? I find when Asus "optimizes" it for you that you have a little more leeway in regards to some settings versus XMP II or manually tuning from the ground up. I just went and did a Q&D settings check for frequency and I was able to boot and run Aida @ 4200. I'm getting much better results frequency wise on 1504 with my SP91 12900k than I did on 1404 as on 1404 these sticks wouldn't break 4000 and the 2x8gb sticks stuck at 4133. Now they're doing 4200 (so far). Which BIOS are you running? I read the review lol. I like the ending part where you dump all over Armory Fail. 😄 -
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electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
4266 2x8, 4133 2x16 but that was on 1404 with the 12900ks. I'll test 1504 just to see how high I can boot later with the SP91 12900k Since the IMCs are independent, there is no correlation between DDR4 and DDR5. It could be your MB or your IMC especially if your DDR4 sticks are known good to post higher gear 1. I know a few 12900k chips I was testing petered out at 3733 (SP81 and SP89 I believe). I initially thought it was the motherboard since I knew it wasn't the memory (8GB B-die sticks 4000 15-15-15 rated) but then my current chip handled 4000 no problem so it was actually the 12900k chips themselves. -
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De8auer and a massive OC open competition (all CPUs welcome) along with all tiers of cooling and lots of prizes. I didn't even know De8auer was part of a group that bought hwbot lol: -
Well at least you gave it a proper run through and looksy for comparison. What was your final take vs your NH55JNNQ? Are there any reviews up of the Precision 7770?
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If prices keep dropping like this on used models so am I or a Strix 3090. If I can get a NEW 3090ti for $1539.00 everything adjusts down for me mentally both new and especially used. 3080ti's new are ~$1100; 3090 new are ~$1500. Pre-owned KPE 3090s are sub $1500 on fleabay in BIN fashion and a few in auction format at ~$1100 atm. I'd say you might be able to get one for $1250. Strix 3090's are right around $1250 average sale price too. Prices will keep dropping. Companies like Gigabyte get it and are slashing prices massively on all their cards vs be stubborn and sit on inventory. I'll wait till I find a hidden gem around $1k for a 3090 and pick one up as prices continue to crash. I waited so long for the 6900xt to drop that eventually the 6950xt was announced and I didn't want it anymore. -
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Wow, that is a fantastic deal. Probably some hesitation because that is a rev 1 apex board. -
Agreed, the actual performance for GPU is extremely close to the 12900h and that noise under load is insane. I think the idea was to dissipate the heat at a much higher rate to compensate for the thin and light heatsink design. It does work to a degree but again that thing under load is ridiculously loud. It was usable in silent mode but the fps did take a major hit. One thing I do like about MSI is their almost desktop level BIOS on their laptops once you open it up with the command sequence. They do this on all their models and the only thing that holds anything back is the CPU or chipset limitations. I wish other manufacturers did this with their laptops. I still can't get over those fans.... Are there any comparisons to their phase change thermal pad and stock tims/lm for comparison anywhere?
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With the way the market is heading in terms of real DTRs and the costs of pseudo DTRs (GT77, Scar 17), an SFF with a portable 17.3" LCD and a good TKL is a very viable option when you are needing a system in a location for hours or days and not quick portability site to site. GT77 has 4 memory slots and M.2 bays which is pretty extensive and good temps even under load. Depending on what Clevo does next time around I'm thinking a nice, small SFF with a wireless KB/M combo and 17.3"-20" portable display.
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I was watching the review a few minutes from Jarrod. 24k CB23 for single run before throttling. Sustained runs = ~20k. Plenty of GPU power (relatively speaking) and Timespy = 14k+. It definitely is a powerful machine. No doubt about that. It is also insanely loud under load but 4 fans will do that for ya but the fact it can sustain 4.3ghz all core under stress tests is very nice! No way I'd pay $4k to $5k for a laptop.....ever.
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Yeah, pricing is continuing to crash downward. Brand new Gigabyte 3090ti is now $1539 and everything around it is falling. Asus of course is holding steady on a lot of their pricing down to the 3080's even but I expected no less. They always charged the most. Story of my life.... 😁 -
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For gaming, yes. For MT loads and benchmarks, the e-cores activated still give better overall results. With e-cores disabled you do get all the cache for the p-cores and better ring and AVX512 (if your chip and motherboard support it), but it still can't beat MT with e-cores enabled. I disabled e-cores for about a month playing WoW and it definitely helped a bit but everything else was slower overall so I re-enabled them for D2D use. -
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It could have went the other direction and been worse so that's good. Free minor performance bump! -
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Have you tested the pull from the wall under load to get an idea of how much juice its pulling?
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electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Congrats on picking up another Z690 MB and an Asus no less. Yeah, an SP84 would be going right back. Many (MANY) BIOS revisions later and the Z690 D4 is finally coming into its own. With the 1504 BIOS update those sticks I bought from you now actually boot at XMP along with two other sets of sticks that would bork out and required manual tuning from ground zero vs setting XMP and tuning from there. I just started the process of re-tightening the timings and testing with the new BIOS to see if I can get closer to 40ns latency with them. And Armory Crate may be the worst of the worst. It is beyond garbage. The fact GPU settings don't stick and as soon as you lose power they're gone is ridiculous. I wish more companies took EVGA's approach (everything sticks even GPUs and KB/Mice) or Asrock which puts a limited addition of their RGB controls right in the BIOS for controlling lighting. -
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electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Sorry to hear bro but at least you're out there taking calculated swings and chances. I have at least 3 of those under my belt and one of them had me liquidating a large chunk of my collectables years ago to make ends meet while I recovered due to a bad business partner. You'll land on your feet. Good luck!