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electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
The blessing in this is the replacement is better than the original. Better P and E cores but still doesn't take the sting of dropping another $600-700 on a CPU. 😞 -
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electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Asrock A380 w/ newest beta drivers puts it right in between a 1650 and 1650 Super at this point. Testing it on the "new realistic" system I'm setting up for my son in law once financial realities kicked in and he adjusted his expectations commiserate with his cash flow status. 😁 -
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electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Corporations are not your friend. Being honest will only get you shanked in the end as you just experienced. For a company that actively promotes and embraces overclocking to sell their products or get mind share and postings this really is a slap in the face. I can see XOC and obviously delidding but I tend to agree their chips aren't as robust as they used to be and the returns may have been hitting the bottom line a little harder than normal. -
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electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
So single core (and overall architecture) goes to Intel again this round but the heat and power to get there is another hybrid mess so 16 / 32 AMD matches Intel's hybrid chip.... If Intel could get their node in order and offer a real, true 16 / 32 chip it would be no contest across all spectrum but it is what it is I guess. Considering what a monster of a gaming chip the 5800X3D is, I have great expectations for the 7000 variants. -
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electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
WTH? The specs for Intel 12th gen CPUs is 4800 for DDR5 and 3200 for DDR4 on their ark site all the way up to 12900k. Is there some other specs listed elsewhere that allow higher or is that it? That is absolute BS. Who in their right mind is going to run it at that speed? I even have the wife's 12100f running at 3600. "Hey! We're Intel and we promote overclocking everywhere and even host competitions! But if you overclock anywhere on our products personally and it happens to fail you void your warranty" ?! -
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electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
That's usually how I handle all of RMAs with all companies. Luckily EVGA is fairly quick and a few weeks at most in extreme cases but that is a nice perk from purchasing direct from them or an authorized seller. It just kind of took me by surprise to spend a few days researching and contacting so many companies to see that all of them except three do not allow 2nd hand warranties. Most now have language in their warranties too to not only still address user damage on a hardware level but mining now too. I'm sure many will quickly check for memory degradation too and/or known signs of mining. -
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Happy belated Birthday @Papusan! It's wonderful when kids turn into adults of their own. They're still your kids but they also become your friend on a level too. Looks like Intel will retain the single core crown for the P-Cores but their hybrid 13900k needs to hit what looks like 15k+ to hang with the top end 7950x if the 7700x is hitting 7701. -
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electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Yeah I saw this earlier. GN did a full video and my 420 AIO falls right in that window. I'm getting ready to yank it from service anyhow to replace it with one of my EVGA 360 CLCs for aesthetics so I'll just send it in for a replacement vs doing the plate swap myself. -
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As much as I've always loved (and still do) laptops, I have always run a desktop along side it. I want a killer rig to take on the road but I want an even MORE killer rig at home! -
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electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
While looking at some very tempting used GPUs, I was doing my due diligence on used GPUs and valid warranty transfers (not anecdotal "Well they fixed mine lolzzzz") by asking the companies and/or reading their warranty policies: Companies that don't: --------------------- XFX Zotac VisionTek Powercolor PNY Asrock Gigabyte Sapphire Nvidia AMD Companies that do: ------------------ EVGA MSI Asus Yikes..... That greatly chopped down my present and future list of companies I will buy used (or even new) GPUs from this point on... -
G1 topping out at 3500 reeks of the system board but that can be fleshed out with a better CPU with a known better IMC real quick. The variance on IMCs is pretty brutal. Two 12100f's I tested. One gave up the ghost at >3200 (which is what it is rated) and the other 3600. At these lower tier speeds overall, I would definitely opt for G1 when all is said and done.
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~161w on the GPU? Hmmmm, nice. ~106w peak on CPU Total system power = ~241w So the system has a draw limit by design?
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electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Awesome! As much as I love the X170KM-G, as soon as you put a good chip on a good desktop motherboard, you quickly realize its limitations no matter how good it is within the laptop realm. -
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electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Not that Intel would go to the lengths of Linux , but open source is as brutal as it gets in people finding, reporting and even chastising you for crap or bugs in your software. I've worked in many small teams and the few I led I made it a policy for complete, open door sit downs where your code is completely open and subject to review with zero filters and eat your own chow methodology by other members and the weekly meetings would be just absolutely savage but bugs and issues tended to get flagged, documented and fixed much quicker. I was on the receiving end of a few beat downs too....it does light a fire under your keister! 🙂 Speaking of the A380, Newegg just charged my card on the back order from last week so it will be shipping today or tomorrow. Fun times. 🙂 I plan on pairing it with an Asrock B660M MicroATX w/ 12100f for fun times. -
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Intel making earnest strides to work on the software side of their ARC GPUs after critical reviews of initial release: -
If compatible, your system will draw as much as it needs. I am not sure what the board draw limitations (if any) that are in place and I don't think we've seen a full bore 12900k + 3070ti load placed on a 330w before.
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On desktop higher tier chips tend to have better IMCs for 11th and 12th gen so I was thinking a nice 12900k in there in G1 mode would stretch those modules to their limits in G1 mode if the system board is capable of handling it. On desktops for G1 12th gen, it is usually the CPU's IMC that gives up the ghost especially with dual ranked sticks. Running 2x16GB is usually off by a bin to a bin and a half vs single rank sticks. Some garbage early 12900k's couldn't even get pass 3733 on dual rank sticks. My 12900k is running 2x16GB dual rank sticks at 4133 on my Strix D4. It will boot 4200 but errors. I never did go back in and set G2 to see if it was the sticks. Awesome work bro! Keep it coming. 🙂
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G2 or is there also a G1 option?
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electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Still not great and I am not a fan of noise normalized tests but at least in the normalized tests with gaming and even CB R20 it does well and finally knocks off the NH-D15. Definitely look forward to a final production unit for real world results and uncapped fans. -
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electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
@Mr. Fox Go back and use my Associate's code and save an extra $25! JL6DSXQIKJ0DVZP EVGA did away with the EVGA bucks program but the code will still give you 5% off. I've been mulling picking one up too. It is the superior board. -
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electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
I'm expecting a total driver crap show Brother @Papusan with the A380 as they work out the kinks. I want to see it in real time at the least cost possible! Something new to play (and curse at) with. 🙂 -
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electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
This quote is incorrect: "As noted by ProHardver, with Alder Lake CPUs power uncapping beyond PL2 limit did not provide noticeable performance improvement, mainly because the CPU was not designed for such power. For Raptor Lake-S this concept will be expanded on supported platforms." Pushing past PL2 (~241w) definitely yields an equally scalable increase in performance on ADL. Hopefully refinements will allow RPL to handle those higher package pulls better though but the silicon is basically the same under the hood + more e-cores and cache so we will see. -
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electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
I was shocked he uploaded it. He was basically crapping all over overclocking saying it took no skill, was brain dead easy and pointless. Basically biting the hand that fed him. Essentially calling overclockers no-lifers and losers essentially and how it was a pointless pursuit along with a bunch of other vitriol. Even in that short while it was up, some jumped down his throat and I am sure he realized his ramblings, rants and BS had struck a nerve even inside his own, small echo chamber. He needs to stick with just doing hardware comparisons and experiments and testing. Once it is seeded and you watch it, you'll see quickly what I mean. -
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electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
A380 + 7000 series.....heh heh heh.