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  1. electrosoft
    Did you ever test your chip to see how it rates? (Plat, Gold, Silver). I know also when tuning my brothers B550M + 5600x I went with CO vs static because his workloads are very light and at most he plays fortnite with a 1650 so for him he will most likely experience the nice sc boosts but he wanted a smaller form factor so I built him an mATX Gigabyte system and tuning CO coupled with the 240mm I put in there and the system usually stays near dead silent for everything he does and the GPU is loudest component. He's had it for over a year now and loves it but he said it is running a smidge louder and laggy so I'll give it a yearly tune up. But when I had my 5800x system running WoW shadowlands (my main game) I would hit raids and PvP and see that ~4.9 boost drop to 4.7 or lower and at that point there was no advantage especially after I went back in with CB23 to root out varying core instabilities under load and found quite a few core loads (let's say 3 cores) would crash under load but 1 or 8 wouldn't. It would depend on the load and how many cores were being pushed. If you're ok with a dirty OC and instabilities that are there but don't affect your workloads that works too. It definitely does depend on the tasks at hand. You can run CB23, start with a single threaded run and slowly start adding in threads per 10 min runs and you will find instabilities quickly that will force you to back off of aggressive CO offsets quickly and/or your clocks will tank. In the end, whatever works for you I just prefer consistent clocks and stability in all scenarios but whatever gets you those fps! 🙂
  2. electrosoft
    Ditto. The wife lets me know daily she's ready and has reached the point of when I ask her, "where to?" she said, "I don't care. Just....away." First time ever after all these years, though, she wants to make sure I have a gaming laptop set up for her to take with us so she can play WoW and stay connected to work since the Pandemic they set up a whole remote network infrastructure.
  3. electrosoft
    5600x is actually one of the recommended CPUs for the 15" XMG model and most likely the most optimal one to use. Depending on the game you use it will vary how hard it hits the CPU and I don't like fluctuations when gaming as loads can vary that is why for my 5800x I just went static all core @ 4.7 as I found it bouncing all around with dips below 4.7 at times. A game like BFV (or similar) that can hit the CPU decently hard and on multiple cores would most likely run better fixed and OCd but a game that hits it lighter and SC would not. Basically, It is a case by case and I don't like that. I like to know where my CPU will be and where it will stay. I wanted to like CO but that -30 CO would crash and burn under real loads unless you have a golden of golden chips. Once I actually started to dial in my CO profile and run real loads or even games like WoW and observed the CPU in action I would see too many fluctuations between ~4.9 and 4.5 especially in raids and PvP. I mean in the overall scheme of things it isn't a deal breaker or maker either way but I prefer consistency and stability and just scaling cores under CB23 would BSOD my 5800x so I had to start lowering my CO and even with a golden chip for true stability I found CO was sitting in the -5 to -15 on some nowhere near -30 which really was for very light loads. Even through it all I liked my Tomahawk X570 + 5800x + B-Die combo but the USB ports and the issues (which are still a problem for many users to this day) was a deal breaker for me as I work extensively with external media and to have them just time out up to the day I sold it and moved on was unacceptable. AMD is promising decent OC and boosts on their next gen chips so we will see what they bring to the table. I'm hoping its something juicy because the baby cores approach from Intel stacking on more e-cores is not too exciting.
  4. electrosoft
    I definitely think they will keep tumbling down. We've reached the point where KPE 3090's are now in stock normally too but EVGA is still listing them at full $2119.99 MSRP. Even 3090ti hybrids are fully in stock at 2199.99 and I suspect they will be sitting there rotting IMHO.
  5. electrosoft
    Absolutely and to watch the market disintegrate like this is rather satisfying.....
  6. electrosoft
    Supply and Demand in full effect; Gigabyte 3090ti $500 off $1649:
  7. electrosoft
    @jaybee83 actually has a G.Skill 3800 rated DDR4 kit in his but I don't know if he's been able to get any type of access to timings yet.
  8. electrosoft
    Unfortunately that will still only get you so far limited at 88w trying to shoehorn a 5950x and leave you at the mercy of varying boosts depending on load (which can be good or bad). On my 5800x desktop after optimizing CO and PBO after the Ageisa update that neutered it I ended up going classic static OC for consistency and stability. Still, it is better than nothing if you're trying to extract optimal performance of the 5950x in a severely underpowered chassis. X170'esque chassis would handle a 5950x with ease. I wish Clevo would offer a 17.3" DTR but as @1610ftw said hopefully Clevo will offer something compelling with AMDs new lineup along with 13th gen.
  9. electrosoft
    This. Clevo had a golden opportunity to really apply all those great power limits and cooling to a much less power hungry and better CPU (before 12th) with the 5000 series and did nothing with it. If they took the hardware of the X170SM/KM and made and had made an AMD variant? I would have been all over it. Hopefully they do something with AM5 better than trying to shoehorn a 5950x in what is available now and fight an uphill battle and still never achieve proper 5950x performance even with all the tweaks.
  10. electrosoft
    That looks beautiful bro! Looking forward to the results. @win32asmguy Any updates on your NH55?
  11. electrosoft
    Yeah, Prema on the KM is basically done. Too many issues. @Sydneyblue so you sold your KM to turn around and build an 11th gen rig vs 12th gen?
  12. electrosoft
    I'll have to add a tube to my collection for testing when available. Looks promising.
  13. electrosoft
    Looking at the design it is a solid, massive copper heatsink that happens to have a water cooling flow system imbedded in it so it looks like it provides solid cooling (especially the CPU) and when you add water cooling at your discretion through the connects it just enhances it more. My P870TM was a monster and I loved it. That VC for the GPU(s) was nice but the CPU heatsink was still a standard one that was decently beefy. Yikes on the thermal pads. That can definitely compromise pairing pressure. As for the ram, unless the modded bios sent sky high voltage through your ram, it wasn't the xmp timings.
  14. electrosoft
    I didn't even push it lol as I was testing baselines at stock for cooling going back and forth to compare data versus the desktop then other work stepped in. On the desktop, as you saw in the X170 forum, it was right there with my SL as both did 5.3 desktop all core no problem CB23 loop and blew the ZtecPC binned CPU out the water (which in turn leveled the other two off the shelf randos).
  15. electrosoft
    It makes you wonder why they would regress from such a nice, beefy heatsink in the 15.6" AMD DTR to what was the final product for ADL? Even 12600's can run hot in there.
  16. electrosoft
    I haven't found someone who tested it in both standard and water cooled version yet. They are priced cheaply on Aliexpress now though so I've been mulling over ordering one to see. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3256802893647618.html?pdp_npi=2%40dis!USD!US %2436.00!US %2428.80!!!!!%4021031a5516542938709864495efa22!12000025851981212!sh&spm=a2g0o.store_pc_home.productList_2002555959075.pic_0 Ah, ok. I use Phobya too but I think I'm going to pop the LTX back in since it is already delidded with the Nickel plated BartX IHS and run it a few days with Phobya again and then a few days with LM and a foam perimeter to note the differences. My heatsink was already previously used in a LM mount from Ztec so it is well soaked as is. I just ordered a more precise, lower range torque screw driver too recommended by a few fellow Pi robots buddies I collab with who use it for all their precision assemblies for a better price (rebrand of many other models): https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B09YXYHVFS/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1#customerReviews to really dial it in. I might just stick with the LTX depending on results and sell the SL since the SL is in pristine condition (never delidded) with original box, SL paperwork, etc. I only want to hold onto one of them and the LTX was close enough. Basically, whichever one sells I'll keep the other.
  17. electrosoft
    True, I found this out early on. Basically eating your own chow. The blessing and the curse of using your own screws is you don't need shims or taller IHS's. The curse is of course dialing in the optimal amount of torque. Get a manual (or powered) screw driver with torque settings. Dial in the optimal settings for your unit for maximum pairing pressure: https://www.amazon.com/CDI-61NSM-Torque-Micro-Adjustable-centinewton/dp/B000JXPF12/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8&th=1 @Clamibot are you running standard TIM or LM on your CPU?
  18. electrosoft
    I like they gave the CPU a full 4 post mounting but even looking at their past 15.6" designs for desktop CPUs for both Intel and AMD I have no idea how this was their final boss heatsink especially looking at that early prototype. Here's hoping Aliexpress has a good aftermarket design like those that have shown up for the X170, P870 and P77X series.
  19. electrosoft
    BGA issues aside.... My issue is looking at the prototype for this at the trade show versus the final product is a slap in the face in regards to the heatsink. The original heatsink shown was much beefier for the CPU. Whoever decided to go from this: To this: Needs to be evaluated.....unless it is a bean counter then we know why. Who in their right mind evaluated the 12th gen performance and heat generation and decided this was an acceptable solution is mind boggling.
  20. electrosoft
    VMD is a bane when trying to clean install new BGA laptops from Acer too. Their pre-installs come with it enabled but as soon as you nuke the drive it disappears except in the BIOS. You have to disable it there too.
  21. electrosoft
    So are the bulk of you happy or sad about the AVX512 being disabled? I'm indifferent as it didn't make or break my leisure or workflow 🤷‍♀️
  22. electrosoft
    Very nice bro! Definitely post all the juicy stuff! 😁
  23. electrosoft
    AMD looks like it is coming in guns ablazing and while Intel will retain the single core performance crown, AMD will win at everything else. What is the logic behind fusing off AVX512?
  24. electrosoft
    2. Yep. 4. Glad the info helped out!
  25. electrosoft
    Price: *** SOLD *** Condition: Used Warranty: None Reason for sale: Too many 10900k's, Many other toys to buy Payment: PayPal (non-cc) , F2F, trade Item location: Southern NJ Shipping: USPS International shipping: To known former NBR users Handling time: 3 days Feedback: https://www.ebay.com/fdbk/feedback_profile/electrosoft Specification: LTX Golden Sample (1 of 200) that has been delidded and re-lidded and ready to rock. Asus rates this as an SP96. There is one discolored contact pin on the bottom that does not affect performance. Relidded w/ liquid metal on 7/15/2022 and a 10 min CB23 stress run pictured 7/18/2022 showing those sweet, sweet temps under that pull. Tested on an MSI Z590 w/ EVGA 360mm CLC and Gelid Extreme. Price includes USPS Priority shipping CONUS Proof of ownership:
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