*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[Mr. Fox]

4 hours ago, Raiderman said:

I will use them, but only as a credit card processor. I will not have an account with them, and transfer funds to and from any business or person. Thanks for the video, After some research it seems that the cooler is actually an asetek built for EVGA? ahh nevermind, he explains that in the video.

Well, 99% of all AIOs are an Asetek with proprietary features added. I suppose there are not many OEMs that see a point in reinventing the wheel. If I were going to go with an AIO rather than custom loop, I think I would look for one that is modular. I think EK and Alphacool made some at one point, but I don't recall seeing one recently. I would prefer having a normal CPU block and not having the pump at the CPU/block end of the AIO.

 

@Raidermanthis looks like a screaming deal on a 360 AIO.  Huge discount. Probably as good as most in terms of quality and effectiveness. Doesn't look like an Asetek design, but I don't know if it is AM5 compatible. It says "all AMD platforms" but that might not be true since the introduction of AM5.

 

https://www.titanrig.com/barrow-aio-cpu-cooler-with-360mm-radiator-argb-03-15-ba-0106-01-on.html

  

4 hours ago, Raiderman said:

WTF happened to video card prices? Holy Jebus!!! I am not getting a new one with my build at those prices...Stupid how much hardware has increased in the short time I was away.

 

4 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

I'm not buying a GPU anytime soon. I'm not willing to pay what they want.

Oh, I forgot to mention something. Another reason I am not buyig a new GPU and you might not be aware... None of the new GPUs have drivers that work on Windows 7. I know this is very important to you, too. 

Intel, NVIDIA and AMD no longer provide drivers and there are not "old drivers" for current generation GPUs. At this point in time, I am not willing to give up being a Windows 7 user for the unnecessary priviledge of using an overpriced GPU whose existence is not necessary. To me, this is the single most compelling reason to go with Linux as a Windows replacement. For the time being they haven't moved to the next stage of Nazism by making drivers unavailable for Linux, but I believe they would if they could get away with it. 

[Papusan]

5 hours ago, Raiderman said:

and decided to go with an all in one cooler. Less of a headache. The reviews seem pretty solid at the egg. Has anyone read/heard anything about the EVGA CLCx?

https://www.newegg.com/evga-liquid-cooling-system-clx-280/p/N82E16835288018?Item=N82E16835288018

The new one offer more weak plastic and bling bling. See if you find previous model. Most likely you'll find it cheaper. A good AIIO. I use on the older desktop. A great choice.

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/5135826_papusan_gpupi_for_cpu___100m_core_i9_13900k_(8p)_3sec_443ms?recalculate=true

 

56th GLOBAL 8X CPU RANK: CPU GPUPI-1B

https://hwbot.org/submission/5135825_papusan_gpupi_for_cpu___1b_core_i9_13900k_(8p)_1min_7sec_951ms?recalculate=true

5 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

@Raidermanthis looks like a screaming deal on a 360 AIO.  Huge discount. Probably as good as most in terms of quality and effectiveness. Doesn't look like an Asetek design, but I don't know if it is AM5 compatible. It says "all AMD platforms" but that might not be true since the introduction of AM5.

 

https://www.titanrig.com/barrow-aio-cpu-cooler-with-360mm-radiator-argb-03-15-ba-0106-01-on.html

The Barrow AIO have weaker fans and I expect the software is worse than what EVGA offer. I would jump over this one and rather go with EVGA or Arctic AIO. Both offer a better total package. 

 

[Mr. Fox]

2 hours ago, Papusan said:

The Barrow AIO have weaker fans and I expect the software is worse than what EVGA offer. I would jump over this one and rather go with EVGA or Arctic AIO. Both offer a better total package. 

 

No doubt the EVGA product is going to be good. Not sure how they would compare on cooling, given the signficant difference in size. I know nothing about the product, just saw an excellent price for a 360 AIO while looking for a modular AIO with a pump on the radiator (but did not find one).

 

No software should be needed for the AIO that is $160 less if you used the motherboard headers or a separate RGB controller (hardware), but regardless, EVGA software is almost always great. It is never UWP dumpster garbage like some of the other RGB software filth. Saving $160 you could certainly afford to buy some powerful fans. 

 

Some of the popular AIOs are getting so expensive that you are pushing into or beyond entry-level custom loop cost range.

[electrosoft]

Finally got around to building out the test components for my daughter's rig. I've been piecing it together slowly over the last month or so and the final piece was the motherboard I snagged on Black Friday from newegg (Asus Prime B660 for $99), so I've had a chance to play around with the A380 and A770 in the Test rig before building out in her final case:

 

 

Pictures don't do the A770 justice. It is a beautiful card. One of the best I've seen in build quality, feel and looks. It looks even better in person. On first boot up I just sat there for a few going, "Ohhhh.....so pretty!"

 

I spent the day tweaking the G.Skill 2x8GB 3600 sticks to dial them in as much as possible then gave the A380 a run and it is scoring the same as before ~4400 (Basically a 1650). Problem is it is locked. Performance settings don't stick. You can drop the power but not raise it and zero offsets. Good, solid, inexpensive little card though. Solid performer.

 

 

A770 scores stock right around 3070 levels:

 

 

Tweaked it a little to see where it could go with a mild OC:

 

 

Grabbed #1 in TS for this combo:

 

 

 

I jumped into WoW to compare the two and the A770 is ~3x more powerful than the A380. In the most hard hitting spot with RT to full at 1080 A380 = 22fps / A770 = 65fps. For reference my old 3070 would get ~ 67fps in the same spot at 1080.

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

5 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

Pictures don't do the A770 justice. It is a beautiful card. One of the best I've seen in build quality, feel and looks. It looks even better in person. On first boot up I just sat there for a few going, "Ohhhh.....so pretty!"

I agree. I really do love the appearance. Performance is also solid for the price. I think it offers excellent value.

[Papusan]

11 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Some of the popular AIOs are getting so expensive that you are pushing into or beyond entry-level custom loop cost range.

You can find an AIO from EVGA or Arctic. They often pop up. This is the two brand I would go with. And of course the models with almost no bling bling. I have had both. And with damn good bench results. Many of the people with custom cooling struggled to come in front of an cheapo AIO in many benches, LOOL

11 hours ago, electrosoft said:

Grabbed #1 in TS for this combo:

Great job brother🙂 And take the #3rd as well. Or all 5 top spots.

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/5135921_papusan_aquamark_geforce_gtx_670_583679_marks?recalculate=true

 

Close to 6.5GHz on water. 43rd GLOBAL RANK: SuperPi-1M🙂

https://hwbot.org/submission/5135920_papusan_superpi___1m_core_i9_13900k_(8p)_4sec_937ms?recalculate=true

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/5135917_papusan_superpi___32m_core_i9_13900k_(8p)_3min_57sec_17ms

 

Edit. For you bro @electrosoft 🙂

Spoiler

 

[electrosoft]

12 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

I agree. I really do love the appearance. Performance is also solid for the price. I think it offers excellent value.

 

It is one of the rare times online pictures do not convey how industrial "Blade Runner"'esque it is in real life. The fact it is performing routinely like a 3070 with 2x the memory at a 3060 price point is chock full of win. Drivers are much better now this time around too.

 

11 hours ago, Papusan said:

You can find an AIO from EVGA or Arctic. They often pop up. This is the two brand I would go with. And of course the models with almost no bling bling. I have had both. And with damn good bench results. Many of the people with custom cooling struggled to come in front of an cheapo AIO in many benches, LOOL

Great job brother🙂 And take the #3rd as well. Or all 5 top spots.

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/5135921_papusan_aquamark_geforce_gtx_670_583679_marks?recalculate=true

 

Close to 6.5GHz on water. 43rd GLOBAL RANK: SuperPi-1M🙂

https://hwbot.org/submission/5135920_papusan_superpi___1m_core_i9_13900k_(8p)_4sec_937ms?recalculate=true

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/5135917_papusan_superpi___32m_core_i9_13900k_(8p)_3min_57sec_17ms

 

Edit. For you bro @electrosoft 🙂

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Lol, I didn't want to be greedy. 🙂 I'll end up tweaking some more as I move the components over to her final case. I want to see if I can unlock that A380 too.

 

I'll take (suffer)  the Crocs if they include the Asus gear!  😅

[Etern4l]

Right off the bat, I'm not too impressed with one aspect of this AX1600i PSU. The power cord is quite loose. Not to the point where it would fall out, but just doesn't fit snugly, the plug very easily  moves up and down and sideways when all the way in. It takes very little muscle power to pull it out. The unit seems fine otherwise. I'm wondering if this is a normal feature of Corsair PSUs or whether Amazon sent me a flawed unit/cable.

 

On the other hand, the inner dimensions of the plug are noticeably smaller than the outer dimensions of the socket, so perhaps this is as per Corsair' s design? I saw this mentioned in an unboxing video. Unbelievable. 

 

Given all the recent stories of issues caused by loose 12VHPWR cables, I should probably send this back. The plug is non-standard, so don't have another one or try instead. 

 

@Papusan

[jaybee83]

On 12/2/2022 at 11:39 PM, Etern4l said:

 

I do need a new PSU bro - the old one is 14 years old. Amazing reliability but I had to replace the fan already, now it started developing some weird vibrations, and I'm wondering whether it's causing those rare resets I'm trying to troubleshoot. This is used in mostly 24/7 operation, so I have been really pushing it with that old buddy, its retirement will be well deserved. The efficiency of the old PSU is somewhere in the 60-70% ballpark - that's how I'm losing money every day I continue using it.

 

 

Of course, especially with moderate use. However, as mentioned earlier I had other reasons for purchasing this PSU, and my usage pattern is anything but moderate.

 

 

About the same prices here, and we rely heavily on Norwegian electricity imports. So much so that should this source fail, there might be blackouts this winter. That's a well-functioning and resilient private energy market right there. Why invest in power plants and energy sufficiency, when you can just import from Norway or France?

 

At least half of the world is suffering, including the Russian people. Hopefully the madness ends sooner rather than later.

 

 

 

I think you misunderstood - I will be saving money thanks to buying a new PSU to replace a 60-70% efficient one. So much so, I'm not that price sensitive.

 

 

 

I would have gone with the HX1500i in this scenario too. I paid 1.5x which is a bit more acceptable 🙂 It's just that it will be used in a heavily-loaded system, so I felt things like amazing performance in hot environment were worth it. If getting the best super-critical component means paying $150 extra I'm OK with that in this crazy PC building business. It may be a little overkill but if it works reliably as advertised and improves system stability, I will be very happy.

 

 

 

Well, one could imagine workstations being used to handle heavy workloads. Not a "normal"/average consumer use, not a normal PSU 🙂

 

BTW I just wanted to say I appreciate your advice here and elsewhere Bro, it has been very helpful.  Hope my extravagant purchasing decision is now at least little better justified in your eyes  🙂

 

Now, can you please chastise bro @jaybee83 a little? He bought a Seasonic TX-PRIME 1600, that is even more expensive, and unfortunately no proper explanation has been provided yet 😉

 

i bought it for...um....reasons! 😂 jokes aside, psu is a component ure gonna ideally be using for a looooong time, as you yourself did with the previous psu running 14 years! so i went with Seasonic due to longest warranty provided at 12 yrs , went with 80 Plus Titanium due to it being the only level where they specify low load limits and with the TX-1600 specifically due to it having 2 native 12VHPWR cables out of the box. thus, full package! 😁

 

On 12/3/2022 at 2:22 AM, Papusan said:

Cheaper? Not the way I see it... When the 6600 sticks was out they was top of the line and very expensive. Now they are cheaper, slower and the new high end sticks are out. Etc G. Skill DDR5-8000 at near 600$ or equal disgusting priced as when the DDR5-6600 was brand new and the top dog.. So nothing have really changed 🙂 

Nvidia can't have help from the miners anymore to keep prices up. Now they have to do it themself. Just produce less cards to keep up the price point. 

 

 

Could be Nvidia that have asked the retailers to help them get rid of 4080 cards. Because almost no gamer will buy them.

https://wccftech.com/scalpers-left-holding-the-bag-and-are-struggling-to-return-nvidia-rtx-4080s-en-masse/

 

 

HaHa.

 

Bro @Etern4l Wasn't about what you bought. Your choice of PSU was an exelent choice. And me... I don't want to judge peoples choices. If they are happy. Then I'm happy 🙂 And thanks for the nice words. 

 

 @jaybee83 are you good at math?🙂 How will this calculation be if you pay the double price for the more power efficient PSU and use it 12 hours pr day and sum up after a year?😁 Lets say the cheap one costs $250 and the expensive $500. How much will you save?

 

What if the same choices have been put between the Gold and Platinum? More like.......

 

ol, lets see: thats 24 USD per year, times 12 years on warranty equals 288 USD. so with the cheaper psu ure saving 250 USD on the upfront pricing and losing out on 288 USD for electricity, the more expensive one at 500 saves u 288 USD 😎😁

 

btw, please do another calculation on 12900K vs. 13900K saving u a few seconds time in benchmarks 🤣

oh yeah right, i forgot, us here dont really look for best VALUE or best EFFICIENCY 😋 so in the end its all money down the toilet and we might as well just stop all this nonsense 😂

 

14 hours ago, electrosoft said:

Finally got around to building out the test components for my daughter's rig. I've been piecing it together slowly over the last month or so and the final piece was the motherboard I snagged on Black Friday from newegg (Asus Prime B660 for $99), so I've had a chance to play around with the A380 and A770 in the Test rig before building out in her final case:

 

 

Pictures don't do the A770 justice. It is a beautiful card. One of the best I've seen in build quality, feel and looks. It looks even better in person. On first boot up I just sat there for a few going, "Ohhhh.....so pretty!"

 

I spent the day tweaking the G.Skill 2x8GB 3600 sticks to dial them in as much as possible then gave the A380 a run and it is scoring the same as before ~4400 (Basically a 1650). Problem is it is locked. Performance settings don't stick. You can drop the power but not raise it and zero offsets. Good, solid, inexpensive little card though. Solid performer.

 

 

A770 scores stock right around 3070 levels:

 

 

Tweaked it a little to see where it could go with a mild OC:

 

 

Grabbed #1 in TS for this combo:

 

 

 

I jumped into WoW to compare the two and the A770 is ~3x more powerful than the A380. In the most hard hitting spot with RT to full at 1080 A380 = 22fps / A770 = 65fps. For reference my old 3070 would get ~ 67fps in the same spot at 1080.

 

 

 

man, im still skeptical as to all the instability and driver issues on Intel Arc. pls keep us updated on any wonky behaviour! i for one wouldnt choose Arc for a build serving non enthusiasts... wouldnt wanna waste time troubleshooting.

 

50 minutes ago, Etern4l said:

Right off the bat, I'm not too impressed with one aspect of this AX1600i PSU. The power cord is quite loose. Not to the point where it would fall out, but just doesn't fit snugly, the plug very easily  moves up and down and sideways when all the way in. It takes very little muscle power to pull it out. The unit seems fine otherwise. I'm wondering if this is a normal feature of Corsair PSUs or whether Amazon sent me a flawed unit/cable.

 

On the other hand, the inner dimensions of the plug are noticeably smaller than the outer dimensions of the socket, so perhaps this is as per Corsair' s design? I saw this mentioned in an unboxing video. Unbelievable. 

 

Given all the recent stories of issues caused by loose 12VHPWR cables, I should probably send this back. The plug is non-standard, so don't have another one or try instead. 

 

@Papusan

 

huh, this is weird. the fact its mentioned in a review points toward it being a common thing for this psu? mind providing some pics?

[Etern4l]

28 minutes ago, jaybee83 said:

 

i bought it for...um....reasons! 😂 jokes aside, psu is a component ure gonna ideally be using for a looooong time, as you yourself did with the previous psu running 14 years! so i went with Seasonic due to longest warranty provided at 12 yrs , went with 80 Plus Titanium due to it being the only level where they specify low load limits and with the TX-1600 specifically due to it having 2 native 12VHPWR cables out of the box. thus, full package! 😁

 

 

ol, lets see: thats 24 USD per year, times 12 years on warranty equals 288 USD. so with the cheaper psu ure saving 250 USD on the upfront pricing and losing out on 288 USD for electricity, the more expensive one at 500 saves u 288 USD 😎😁

 

btw, please do another calculation on 12900K vs. 13900K saving u a few seconds time in benchmarks 🤣

oh yeah right, i forgot, us here dont really look for best VALUE or best EFFICIENCY 😋 so in the end its all money down the toilet and we might as well just stop all this nonsense 😂

 

 

man, im still skeptical as to all the instability and driver issues on Intel Arc. pls keep us updated on any wonky behaviour! i for one wouldnt choose Arc for a build serving non enthusiasts... wouldnt wanna waste time troubleshooting.

 

 

huh, this is weird. the fact its mentioned in a review points toward it being a common thing for this psu? mind providing some pics?

 

Just imagine the plug moving very easily side to side. Not falling out but really loose. Amazon talked me into trying a free replacement, have a bit of a bad feeling about this but OK. Will give them a chance, but one more strike and Corsair is out. I can't imagine it's working like this by design, but at the same time there is clearly either no QC or it really sucks, which is a worry. 

[tps3443]

It’s crazy how the RTX4080 is like the worst value in GPU history. And anyone buying one is essentially bending over for Nvidia. 
 

However on a side note, even if we did want to get pounded by Nvidia for $1200 USD for a cut down GPU. I can’t seem to find them. I find it hard to believe that this many people are actually wanting to buy a RTX 4080. Who is it that uploaded these videos talking about “4080’s rotting on the shelf” is that actually real? It looks like the market is very scare for 4080’s. 
 

Another thing is the 4080 has essentially take the price bracket of the RTX4090. That’s so crazy how Nvidia has actually artificially inflated prices on these by trickling inventory.
 

 

Low end RTX4080= $1,500

High End RTX4080= $1,800

 

Low end RTX4090= $2,300

High End RTX4090= $2,800

[Etern4l]

It's a pathetic joke, but Jensen is just a funny guy, which why he decided to pull another one on people, this time with a 3040 or 3060 Li pushed as "3060". I mean clearly those Nvidia people don't care about the consumer market anymore. 

[Papusan]

1 hour ago, jaybee83 said:

ol, lets see: thats 24 USD per year, times 12 years on warranty equals 288 USD. so with the cheaper psu ure saving 250 USD on the upfront pricing and losing out on 288 USD for electricity, the more expensive one at 500 saves u 288 USD 😎😁

I didn't konw you was that bad in math😀 

1 hour ago, jaybee83 said:

btw, please do another calculation on 12900K vs. 13900K saving u a few seconds time in benchmarks 🤣

oh yeah right, i forgot, us here dont really look for best VALUE or best EFFICIENCY 😋 so in the end its all money down the toilet and we might as well just stop all this nonsense 😂

Worth every dime brother😀

50 minutes ago, Etern4l said:

Just imagine the plug moving very easily side to side. Not falling out but really loose. Amazon talked me into trying a free replacement, have a bit of a bad feeling about this but OK. Will give them a chance, but one more strike and Corsair is out. I can't imagine it's working like this by design, but at the same time there is clearly either no QC or it really sucks, which is a worry. 

 

Maybe ask in the Corsair forum. Ask them if this is the quality standard to expect from their most expensive PSUs.

[Etern4l]

26 minutes ago, Papusan said:

I didn't konw you was that bad in math😀 

Worth every dime brother😀

 

Maybe ask in the Corsair forum. Ask them if this is the quality standard to expect from their most expensive PSUs.

 

So you didn't see this on the HXi? I'd assume not, since that's clearly ridiculous. In contrast, the power cord in my Thermaltake is snug, zero play - plus there is a LED to indicate when the power is flipped on. 

 

Edit: thanks for the link. Great to see a complete fail with a non-standard C19 power cord. Obviously that's just needed for the 110V markets. The supplied power cord is 18A or 4.3kW at 240V lol

[tps3443]

1 hour ago, jaybee83 said:

 

i bought it for...um....reasons! 😂 jokes aside, psu is a component ure gonna ideally be using for a looooong time, as you yourself did with the previous psu running 14 years! so i went with Seasonic due to longest warranty provided at 12 yrs , went with 80 Plus Titanium due to it being the only level where they specify low load limits and with the TX-1600 specifically due to it having 2 native 12VHPWR cables out of the box. thus, full package! 😁

 

 

ol, lets see: thats 24 USD per year, times 12 years on warranty equals 288 USD. so with the cheaper psu ure saving 250 USD on the upfront pricing and losing out on 288 USD for electricity, the more expensive one at 500 saves u 288 USD 😎😁

 

btw, please do another calculation on 12900K vs. 13900K saving u a few seconds time in benchmarks 🤣

oh yeah right, i forgot, us here dont really look for best VALUE or best EFFICIENCY 😋 so in the end its all money down the toilet and we might as well just stop all this nonsense 😂

 

 

man, im still skeptical as to all the instability and driver issues on Intel Arc. pls keep us updated on any wonky behaviour! i for one wouldnt choose Arc for a build serving non enthusiasts... wouldnt wanna waste time troubleshooting.

 

 

huh, this is weird. the fact its mentioned in a review points toward it being a common thing for this psu? mind providing some pics?

The 13900K is actually very very efficient! I had mine pulling 213 watts max running 5.5Ghz-5.8Ghz boost while hitting 41,300 in R23. That’s max power during R23. Now, imagine actually down clocking a chip like this to 12900K levels, it would really sip power. Now, that wattage isn’t realistic because we’re not always running R23 (24/7) but during games it would use about 20-100 watts.

Even bad chips can be brought down to low power levels equivalent to the Flagship Ryzen chip while still breaking that 41K R23. 

[Papusan]

59 minutes ago, Etern4l said:

 

So you didn't see this on the HXi? I'd assume not, since that's clearly ridiculous. In contrast, the power cord in my Thermaltake is snug, zero play - plus there is a LED to indicate when the power is flipped on. 

 

Edit: thanks for the link. Great to see a complete fail with a non-standard C19 power cord. Obviously that's just needed for the 110V markets. The supplied power cord is 18A or 4.3kW lol

I still haven't got the HX1500i. Everything of shipping here in Norway is a disaster. Get a package from outside Norway (still a Norwegian webshop who fix the tax) can take 3 weeks.

 

But a loose Power cable ain't the end of the world. How it perform/long time reliability is what counts

 

And I ordered a package from another city (500km) from where I live, can take up to 2 weeks from I order to I have it in my hands. And they send it one or two days after I ordered it. Imagine how long it would take from China. 

 

@Mr. Fox Elite/fab benchers have binned Cpu's, MB, ram and graphics cards. On top they get own custom firmware where they also have the signing key to tune Sbios/vBios further. They even get special threatments for PSUs as well. As you can se, we all compete on same level and in same play yard, LOOL

 

So if you want to compete on same level, just forget it. You caan only do so much....

[Etern4l]

29 minutes ago, Papusan said:

I still haven't got the HX1500i. Everything of shipping here in Norway is a disaster. Get a package from outside Norway (still a Norwegian webshop who fix the tax) can take 3 weeks.

 

@Mr. Fox Elite/fab benchers have binned Cpu's, MB, ram and graphics cards. On top they get own custom firmware where they also have the signing key to tune Sbios/vBios further. They even get special threatments for PSUs as well. 

 

Yep, the HX1500i uses the C19 power cord as well: 

 

https://www.eteknix.com/corsair-hx1500i-platinum-power-supply/3/

 

Will be interesting to see how this works out for you. First time I've seen this, probably mostly used in America. Unpleasant surprise really, as totally unnecessary for 240V. 

 

Bro, 500km in 2 weeks? How does that delivery work? Do they have to use sleigh and reindeer?

 

Edit: Bro @Papusan, looks like your DarkPower Pro 1500 also uses this C19 power cord. Any play, or does the cord sit snugly in the PSU?

 

https://www.kitguru.net/components/power-supplies/zardon/be-quiet-dark-power-pro-12-1500w-titanium-review/3/

[Papusan]

44 minutes ago, Etern4l said:

 

Yep, the HX1500i uses the C19 power cord as well: 

 

https://www.eteknix.com/corsair-hx1500i-platinum-power-supply/3/

 

Will be interesting to see how this works out for you. First time I've seen this, probably mostly used in America. Unpleasant surprise really, as totally unnecessary for 240V. 

 

Bro, 500km in 2 weeks? How does that delivery work? Do they have to use sleigh and reindeer?

The Norwegian government who is the greedy devil. They bought a huge Parcel/post sorting machine that all post/packages has to throught. If I send one package to a small city 100km away from me North over. The package will be sent to the main city Oslo in Southt and back Norht outside where I live and to the shipping adress.

 

A few years ago we had Parcel/post sorting machine in every main city. From South to North. Norway is one of the biggest in oil/gas in the world. We don't lack money. But if you have a lot $$$$. Then you want more. They cut costs everywhere. They have even reduced post delivery to only 3 days a week. Packages or letters, doesn't matter. 

 

But, getting the Corsair PSU for $262 US Dollar included +25% tax is worth the wait. 

 

Edit. Yep the big power cable fits very thight in the PSU connector. I almost wish it was a bit more loose, LOOL

[Reciever]

If it's not the same level, there should be another database for amauter leagues then no? 

[Etern4l]

20 minutes ago, Papusan said:

The Norwegian government who is the greedy devil. They bought a huge Parcel/post sorting machine that all post/packages has to throught. If I send one package to a small city 100km away from me North over. The package will be sent to the main city Oslo in Southt and back Norht outside where I live and to the shipping adress. A few years ago we had Parcel/post sorting machine in every main city. From South to North. Norway is one of the biggest in oil/gas in the world. We don't lack money. But if you have a lot $$$$. Then you want more. They cut costs everywhere.

 

Edit. Yep the big power cable fits very thight in the PSU connector. I almost wish it was a bit more loose, LOOL

 

Ok, many thanks - very clear something is wrong, good thing I haven't installed this, as it could be a mechanical issue on the socket too (although less likely from what I've read so far). I've found some replacement C19 cables online but it'd be ridiculous to blindly buy one of unknown quality for a new PSU. Let's see how the replacement does.

 

Sorry to hear. Norway is famously expensive, but strange to hear about the government cost cutting. Perhaps something will improve under the new, presumably more fiscally permissive, option.... 

[Papusan]

1 hour ago, Etern4l said:

 

Ok, many thanks - very clear something is wrong, good thing I haven't installed this, as it could be a mechanical issue on the socket too (although less likely from what I heard). I've found some replacement C19 cables online but it'd be ridiculous to blindly buy one of unknown quality for a new PSU. Let's see how the replacement does.

 

Sorry to hear. Norway is famously expensive, but strange to hear about the government cost cutting. Perhaps something will improve under the new, presumably more fiscally lax, option.... 

Nothing will be better. Only worse. None is so greedy as the poor filthy rich man. The more you have... The more you want. Have always been like this. People or governments... The act the same. Not all have class, bro Etern. 

 

1 hour ago, Reciever said:

If it's not the same level, there should be another database for amauter leagues then no? 

This doesn't look as a good idea. The Nr1 will always be Nr1 regardless of league. But companies should stop bragg about highest performance if not all have same start point. But they want sales... Hence push Elite in front to sell own products that don't offer what is adverticed. 

 

But companies should stop bragg about highest performance if not all can have same start point. But they want sales... Hence they push the Elite in front to upsell own products. Aka, you won't be offered what they advertise/sell. And the Elite take advantage from this.

[electrosoft]

1 hour ago, tps3443 said:

It’s crazy how the RTX4080 is like the worst value in GPU history. And anyone buying one is essentially bending over for Nvidia. 
 

However on a side note, even if we did want to get pounded by Nvidia for $1200 USD for a cut down GPU. I can’t seem to find them. I find it hard to believe that this many people are actually wanting to buy a RTX 4080. Who is it that uploaded these videos talking about “4080’s rotting on the shelf” is that actually real? It looks like the market is very scare for 4080’s. 
 

Another thing is the 4080 has essentially take the price bracket of the RTX4090. That’s so crazy how Nvidia has actually artificially inflated prices on these by trickling inventory.
 

 

Low end RTX4080= $1,500

High End RTX4080= $1,800

 

Low end RTX4090= $2,300

High End RTX4090= $2,800

 

Where are you looking? Using Best Buy or Newegg as a metric is flawed. What is being asked and what is actually being paid are two different things and if Nvidia wants to create artificial scarcity in the end someone has to want to buy it when it is available.

 

This "demand" isn't anything like before and anyone buying right now over MSRP is making a mistake vs just waiting a few months.

 

 

 

 

[tps3443]

24 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

 

Where are you looking? Using Best Buy or Newegg as a metric is flawed. What is being asked and what is actually being paid are two different things and if Nvidia wants to create artificial scarcity in the end someone has to want to buy it when it is available.

 

This "demand" isn't anything like before and anyone buying right now over MSRP is making a mistake vs just waiting a few months.

 

 

 

 

I just roughly used what people are paying on eBay to obtain these GPU’s.
 

Strix 4080 is $1,800

Strix 4090 is $2,800

Any 4080 is $1,500

Any 4090 is $2300

[Mr. Fox]

It may be the cord itself and not the PSU power socket. My EVGA 1600 SuperNova P2 also has a C19 cord. It fits snugly enough that I have to use a small amount of force to insert or remove it. The original was extremely tight. I am using an aftermarket C19 with a 90-degree connector at the PSU end so my computer chassis can be closer to the wall behind it without putting a kink in the cord. @Etern4l as long as the prongs are snug in the slots it should be fine. You could wrap the outside of the cord with a layer or two of electrical tape if you are wanting to make it fit tighter into the socket.

[Etern4l]

23 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

It may be the cord itself and not the PSU power socket. My EVGA 1600 SuperNova P2 also has a C19 cord. It fits snugly enough that I have to use a small amount of force to insert or remove it. The original was extremely tight. I am using an aftermarket C19 with a 90-degree connector at the PSU end so my computer chassis can be closer to the wall behind it without putting a kink in the cord. @Etern4l as long as the prongs are snug in the slots it should be fine. You could wrap the outside of the cord with a layer or two of electrical tape if you are wanting to make it fit tighter into the socket.

 

Thanks a lot for the data point and advice Bro. Good idea with the electrical tape, although in my mind it would be something worth trying when buying on a secondary market. If Corsair can't ensure a power cord fits a brand new flagship unit correctly, what else could go wrong? Or am I asking too much of the manufacturers these days lol?

 

I should have uploaded a video to illustrate: the thing is flapping about in response to a touch with a pinky (although somehow doesn't fall out - this requires a bit of a pull, which I guess justified a QA pass, if any).