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  1. Clamibot
    And then the same companies will complain that the sales were bad and nobody wants these types of laptops anymore. It's like EA saying nobody plays singleplayer games anymore so they focus on multiplayer. No, it's not that nobody cares anymore. People still care, it's just that people don't want to buy bad products. Make a good product, make sure people know about it, and it will sell. You're creating a self fufilling prophecy by creating a bad product and pointing out that sales sucked, so nobody wants products in that product class anymore.
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    Given you're running your i7 4940MX in an Alienware 18 and with liquid metal, I'd say you should be able to achieve 4.3 GHz with max fans assuming the CPU isn't a crap sample. I'm running an i7 4930MX in my Alienware 17 and can get it to 4.2 GHz stable as my max daily driver frequency. It can go up to as high as 4.5 GHz, but only with a hefty 125mv overvolt and only on a cold winter day. I'm using liquid metal as well. Given you're using the Alienware 18, you should be able to do better than me as the cooling on the CPU side is significantly better in the Alienware 18. The i7 4940MX is also supposedly a better bin than the i7 4930MX, but sometimes the 4930MX overclocks better. My i7 4930MX is a qualification sample I bought from Japan for a cheap price, so I don't know how well it stacks up against other i7 4930MX and i7 4940MX CPUs. As for RAM, I'm running this in my Alienware 17: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00UVOVV12/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1 I don't know if the kit is even sold anywhere anymore, but those sticks are the fastest DDR3 laptop RAM you can get. They should be compatible with the Alienware 18 as I've found that generally any part that is compatible with the 17 is compatible with the 18 as well, and vice versa.
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    What you described is pretty much how I treat laptops as well. The kind of laptop I like is a laptop with desktop performance, but is easily transportable. I'm not looking to constantly be carrying a laptop in one hand, which is what reviewer videos annoyingly do for a wide range of laptops. Who does that? I don't know anyone who walks around with a laptop in one hand while trying to use it! I don't mind if other people want thin and light laptops. That's their preference and I respect that. What I don't appreciate is that all the options I like are going away while people that like thin and light keep getting more options. I thought the whole reason for consumer choice was so that everyone could have a type of computer suited for them. There is no one size fits all solution since everyone's needs and wants are different. To be fair, I no longer NEED a laptop since I graduated college a little more than a year ago, but I still really like the portability of a laptop, so I still want one. A desktop is fine for my needs, but I really like being able to take my computer everywhere with me. Even the X170 is more portable than the most portable small form factor desktop. The X170 being a laptop is also an all in one computer: it has a built in battery, screen, keyboard, and trackpad (although I pretty much exclusively use mice). With a SFF desktop, you have to carry around those pieces as extra items. Even the chonkiest of laptops are still more convenient to carry around. There are times when having a laptop is really useful despite me not needing one anymore, because there are still times I have to travel. Such occasions are rare, but I'm really glad I have a beefy laptop when such occasions arise. I'm sad to see my options dwindiling away.
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    The X370 is an impostor. It's a heavily watered down version of Clevo's previous DTRs. I wouldn't even call this thing a real DTR as there is no socketed CPU or GPU. The number of ports has been reduced vs the X170 as well. It's very sad when people think a 7 pound laptop is heavy, because it's not. The 12 pound DTRs of the past weren't particularly heavy either, they just had heft to them. Plus, they could double as workout weights. I'm not sure why Clevo decided to go full BGA. I'm still interested to see how thing thing performs, but I know it would be less satisfying to have than an X170 despite the increased processing power over the X170.
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    I think the fans can be detached from the original heatsink, but I'm not sure if they're screwed on or glued on as I've never tried removing them. If they're glued on, that would suck.
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    The CPU side of the custom air/water unified heatsink looks a lot beefier than the stock one. I'd imagine this heatsink yields better thermals on the CPU than even the modded zTecpc heatsink.
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    GPUs are still way overpriced, but I've been seeing SSD prices dropping like a rock over the past year. It's great to see how far SSDs have come in capacity per dollar. A 2TB TLC SSD can be had for $90 nowadays. Good thing too because I'm gonna start needing much more storage in the near future for my job, so these price drops are coming at the perfect time. You win some, you lose some I guess. I'm just glad that prices are dropping on components I really need. I still need a GPU to complete my desktop, but I don't NEED it right now as I'm doing fine with just my X170SM-G. More than fine actually since I like laptops a lot more than desktops (but might not for much longer hehe).
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    Slap on a TEC AIO or custom loop and you should be able to boost the frequency on that 13900KS by another 500-700 MHz. I saw Skatterbencher's video with the new EKWB TEC and it looks awesome! I'm waiting for Cooler Master to announce their new TEC AIO as I'd rather go that route since you'd get most of the cooling power (around 88% assuming Cooler Master maintains their same 185 watt power limit on the MasterLiquid ML360 Sub Zero Evo / V2 vs the 210 watt power limit on the EKWB Delta² TEC) for probably less than half what the EKWB route would cost.
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    Yep, traditional rasterization has gotten so advanced and looks good enough at this point where I couldn't care less about raytracing in most games. Raytracing makes for a laggy unoptimized game as all it does is make your hardware do a lot of extra work for barely any gain in visual fidelity in most cases. There are cases where raytraced effects make sense, such as in dynamic scenes. If you have a day/night cycle in your game, GPU accelerated raytraced reflections could make sense, especially if you have a butt ton of objects in the scene as a realtime reflection probe would absolutely hammer the CPU in that case. The problem is essentially that in most games that currently have raytracing, it either isn't used properly or isn't needed, so it ends up causing a massive performance loss for barely any visual gain. Bright Memory is an example of Raytracing being used effectively as the reflections look absolutely amazing. Same with Metro Exodus Enhanced Edition, the raytraced lighting increases immersion by a lot. What we definitely don't need is raytracing being proprietary tech that requires proprietary hardware.
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    Yeah RAM overclocking is kinda like CPUs in that regard. Higher binned chips can either run at higher speeds than the lower binned chips with the same power consumption, or can run at the same speeds at the lower binned chips with less power and lower voltages. Higher binned chips are more power efficient, but that's negligible when clockspeed limited. The efficiency really starts to show when you start pushing the chips, as in the case of a 10900K you can get one CPU that draws over 300 watts when overclocked to 5.3 GHz all core, and another that draws only 250 watts at the same speed. I know that's not a CPU that would be used in the laptop this thread is talking about or in yours, it's just a point of comparison. The variance in power draw at the high end of performance gets pretty insane. A kit that is capable of high speeds isn't immediately rendered pointless when your motherboard has a limit on how far the speed can be pushed, that just means you'll have to dial in the timings to get a benefit. Do make sure you can actually do that in your laptop's BIOS first though, otherwise then it is pointless. If you can in fact do RAM tuning in your laptop's BIOS, the highest speed you'll be able to run the RAM is the highest speed the motherboard can run it at. From there, it's a game of lowering timings and raising the RAM voltage until you find your lowest stable timings.
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    That is absolutely incredible graphical fidelity from a virtual 3D environment. I'm a sucker for photorealistic graphics and wish all games looked like this, although that's just my preference as photorealism is the art style I like. I'm excited to see what future games will be like.
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    Those connectors are just regular connectors. Water will drain out of them once you unplug the laptop from your cusom loop. I know quick release fittings exist which would remedy that problem, but I'm unsure if they will fit on top of those connectors. I'd be great if they did fit though as quick release disconnects would make your custom loop plug and play with the laptop. As for the effectiveness of the hybrid air/water heatsink, I imagine it would be a significant upgrade over the stock one, especially if you use a water chiller in your custom loop. The only downside is the massive upfront cost of doing such a custom loop. However, if you reuse the loop with future systems, it's worth it as you can consider it an investment in your current and future machines. Having said all of this, the heatsink is definitely not worth it if you aren't planing to push this laptop to the max. However if you are planning to do so and are planning to reuse the custom loop in something else in the future, then yes it may be worth it. It all depends on what you want.
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    Given enough development with this, we could see the return of real desktop performance within laptops. We enthusiasts can get what we want and the thin and light crowd can get what they want at the same time! I think the best parts about this vibration cooler are the cooler density vs a fan, and the fact that it's very quiet.
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    With tuning, I've gotten my X170's 10900K to consume less than 2 watts when idle, so a desktop CPU can be just as efficient as a mobile one. Desktop CPUs are just able to achieve higher clocks since they're meant for use in less thermally constrained environments than mobile CPUs.
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    I can do +175 MHz on the core clocks on my GPU. The GPU side of the cooling system in this laptop is really good, especially if you have mods performed on the heatsink. My GPU has never risen above 149°F (65°C).
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    Not a desktop, but for a while, I was still mainly using my Alienware 17 over my Clevo X170 most of the time for the same reason: everything was set up on the Alienware 17. It took a while until everything was set up exactly the way I wanted on my new laptop. Once I got everything set up, I've been exclusively using my X170. I haven't really used desktops for a while, but will probably go back to them for my next main system given the way laptops are going. My needs have also changed. I don't have to take my computers everywhere with me every day now since I've been working from home ever since I started my first full time job. Moving around a desktop wouldn't be much of a hassle since I wouldn't do it very often.
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    I've been screwing around with using DXVK on games I'm CPU bottlenecked on in Windows. On games where it works, which has been most of them so far, the performance gain is pretty significant. I bet performance natively on Linux would probably be at least slightly better.
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    Wait, are there actually software utilities for overclocking within Linux now?
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    What about through one of the m.2 slots? I know there are some eGPU adapters/enclosures that connect to a laptop through an m.2 slot, which gives 4 PCIE lanes. I'd imagine there'd still be a big hit to performance, but not as much as through the thunderbolt port.
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    Haha, I was raised in front of a computer screen playing games, and now I make them. As always, it depends on the person as my interests always involved computers to some degree. Video games allow me to live up to my potential because I have no idea what else I'd be doing. However, and this applies to everyone, self control also plays a big part, because nobody should be playing video games if they haven't completed the things they need to get done first.
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    In a case like this, thermoelectric coolers start making more sense since they won't be overwhelmed by the CPU's head output, and increasing the temperature differential will lead to enhanced cooling, therefore stabilizing super high overclocks. I'm excited to see what's in store for TECs and other exotic cooling in the future. Maybe a ready made phase change cooling that reaches sub zero temperatures will become commonplace for enthusiast high performance desktops.
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    The stability of your RAM speed is affected by the motherboard, the memory itself, and also the CPU. For example, I have one 10900K in which my RAM only runs at its rated XMP profile speeds when installed in slots 1 and 3, and another better binned 10900K where my RAM only runs at its rated XMP profile speeds when installed in slots 2 and 4. You can also try loosening the timings a little or raise the memory voltage and see if that helps.
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    My commentary would be something along the lines of this: "Whatchu thinkin' fool? 1.7 grand is enough to build yoself one sick rig! Get yo discounted parts on ebay today!" I'm such a cheapskake and you guys all know it 🤣. I don't know how I balance being so frugal with being a hardware enthusiast. I'm basically subsisting on brother @Mr. Fox's used parts whenever he has some goodies up for sale on the marketplace, and also on any other bones thrown my way through deals I stumble across.
  24. Clamibot
    Nice, so basically dual rank RAM is faster than single rank at the same clock speed and timings, but single rank is more tunable and therefore ends up being faster in an absolute sense? If so, that means I don't have to be disappointed with the RAM I bought for my desktop as those are single rank DIMMs that I currently have running at 4200 MHz and it seems to still have headroom for higher speeds. I've finally started my RAM overclocking adventure, but on my desktop first before I do the same thing on my X170. The verdict I'm seeing here is go with dual rank kits if your motherboard can't handle high memory frequencies and / or low timings, and go with single rank kits if your motherboard can handle high frequencies and / or low timings.
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    Oh nice really? I thought for sure that dual rank kits always outperformed single rank kits at the same speed, even with tightened timings on the single rank kit. That's gonna make my RAM tuning a lot more enjoyable. Part of the reason I was procrastinating with my RAM tuning was because I was not looking forward to having to constantly be pulling the CMOS battery. It's good to know there's a keyboard combination for this.
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