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Clamibot

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  1. @jcordero Do you have a link to the Dsanke unlocked BIOS still that @Snowleopard can use?
  2. Are your sticks single rank or dual rank? I can only find a kit of that speed in a 4x8GB configuration, which would be 4 single rank sticks most likely. I went with my Crucial Ballistix kit specifically because it seemed like a good dual rank kit. The two of you may want to try a different kit. It looks to me like the RAM you two got just isn't that good. I personally went with this kit here: https://www.crucial.com/memory/ddr4/bl2k16g32c16s4b This Crucial Ballistix 32 GB 3200MHz kit is fully compatible with this laptop. Stock settings work great. I haven't taken the memory for a spin on overclocking just yet, but I'm planning to soon. I was planning to about 2 weeks ago, but you know life gets busy sometimes. 🤣 In any case, the binning of the RAM is really going to help with speeds. This kit has higher binned sticks and isn't overly expensive either.
  3. Try setting everything to auto timings and set the voltage to 1.35 volts. I'm pretty sure 3200 MHz will require around 1.35 volts.
  4. They are basically equivalent to a 3080 yes. I'm waiting to get a 6800 XT myself, but I'm waiting for the price to dip below $500. You could get them new for around $520 during newegg's last big black friday and christmas sales. I'd say around $600 is a bad deal for used ones given it was possible to obtain a new one for less than that just a few weeks ago. I think I might've waited too long though as prices seem to be going back up again... Screw this crappy market.
  5. Thanks for this information! I didn't know about that keyboard combination. Is there a list of different special keyboard combinations for this laptop along with a description of what they do? So far, I now know about the following: Press Fn + 1 - Set fans to max speed Hold Fn + D on startup - Reset BIOS Hold Fn + M, then press the power button once - ???. I saw this button combination on NBR before it shut down, but I have no idea what it does. That's very strange. The XMP profile doesn't show up at all in the memory overclocking section? What kit did you get?
  6. Pull the battery and power supplies, then pull the CMOS battery, wait 15-30 seconds, then plug the CMOS battery back in. Don't worry if you still get a black screen, it will take about twice as long to boot than normal after a reset as the laptop is rebuilding a voltage table for your CPU.
  7. 100 MHz base with a 12x multiplier will be 2400 MHz effective. The multipler in this BIOS reflects the single data rate speed, so double that multipler to get your effective speed. I know, weird right? At first I couldn't figure out why my laptop wouldn't boot when I manually set all the settings in my custom profile to the exact same settings from my XMP profile. Turns out, I was misinterpreting the multiplier and trying to run my sticks at 6400 MHz effective. Start with auto timings if you can.
  8. I'd say try going up in steps of 100 MHz at most and raise the voltage by 50mv each time you experience instability. That has seemed to work well for me so far.
  9. Dual rank sticks are best as they offer the least memory stalls, and therefore highest performance. I know for desktops that there are some 3200 MHz sticks that can go as low as CL 14 for the CAS latency. I'd imagine the high speed DDR4 3800 MHz SODIMMS could probably do 3200 MHz at very low timings. Even if the kit has a higher speed than you can take advantage of, it's still beneficial as that means you should be able to run lower timings at lower speeds than other kits can.
  10. A new lineup of 18 inch laptop was unveiled at CES today. These include offerings from Acer, Alienware, Asus, and Razer. I was really excited for the return of 18 inch laptops, but the excitement has kinda died already after I saw they're 18 inch 16:10, not 18 inch 16:9. I'm not really sure what the appeal of 16:10 screens is, but I'm also a fan of widescreens so go figure. There have been some improvements. For example, Alienware's new M18 laptop has a giant unified vapor chamber covering both the CPU and GPU, but all these models look weird to me because of the aspect ratio. I was expecting something larger in a 16:9 aspect ratio. I'll wait to see what Clevo has to offer as there is a rumored X370 model coming from them. In short, there have been improvements, but still nothing that I REALLY like. Nothing fully upgradeable either. At the very least, I want the ability to plop in a desktop CPU into a laptop. The HK CPUs are desktop CPUs, just without the IHS and soldered onto the laptop's motherboard. With the size of these laptops, an LGA socket should be able to be easily included.
  11. Yup, I did exactly that for my Alienware 17 R1 after I got it. I think Dell removed the download for those drivers like 6 or 7 years ago. I still have them available if I do another fresh install of windows.
  12. Seems the experience is vendor dependent then. That one you got which was from BOXX originally seems to have a good motherboard and good firmware.
  13. Doesn't disabling the E-Cores allow you to open up the P-Cores even further though? I think with the E-Cores and hyperthreading disabled (just for giggles), you could possibly gain another 200-300 MHz on top of what you can already achieve.
  14. So does this mean going for the 13900KF yields the best chances of getting a highly binned chip? If so, I'll target the 13900KF instead since I don't have much of a use for integrated graphics.
  15. Pretty much the ability to keep your laptop useful as a gaming laptop for a longer period of time. The reason being is that typically people (including us enthusiasts) need a GPU upgrade long before they need a CPU upgrade to maintain adequate performance in games. Gotta keep them frames coming man! The problem with BGA laptops is that it forces you to pay for other components you don't need or want to upgrade just to get a better graphics card. eGPUs are a pretty good alternative in theory, but we haven't had an interface for them to connect to laptops with that would yield their full performance until recently with Thunderbolt 4 and the like. Even then, you still have to carry extra items around with you. The biggest advantages with MXM are that it gave the same GPU upgradeability for laptops as we enjoy with desktops, and it kept the system as an all in one package. This way, all your hardware was contained in one seamless package that could easily be transported, and you wouldn't have to carry around any extra items like an eGPU enclosure.
  16. Yep this product had a short lifetime. I hope that means a real successor to the X170 is in the works and will be revealed at CES 2023 or something like that. I think the X270 will probably sell extremely poorly. I don't see many people wanting that thing. I also don't think Clevo will make many of them given the current lack of popularity for Intel's ARC lineup compared to Nvidia's GPUs.
  17. @Mr. Fox Wanna buy an EVGA RTX 4090 prototype for $13K?🤣 EVGA is selling off the rest of their RTX 4090 engineering samples that weren't given to youtubers: https://videocardz.com/newz/evga-is-auctioning-off-its-geforce-rtx-4090-prototype-for-charity
  18. Dang! It's great to see how well AMD's offering has held up. This video you linked to pretty much sums up why I don't look at general relative performance charts. It's best to check hardware comparisons on a per game basis. Generally speaking, AMD's GPUs do better in newer titles, that is, those released 2016 and after, but the difference is still game dependent. Throw CPUs into the mix and you affect things even more. Based on all the research I've done, you have to spec your system around the software you use and games you play. For me, an Intel CPU + AMD GPU configuration would be best as I play multiple genres of games, including first person shooters, third person shooters, open world, realtime strategy, and also the occasional sandbox game. Pairing an Intel CPU with AMD GPU yields slightly more performance in games that are single core performance bound VS using an AMD CPU. Even then, sometimes the 5800X3D can match or beat the 13900K in games as some games benefit greatly from increased cache. So yeah, your system needs to be purpose built for the particular suite of applications that you use so you can get absolute maximum performance in those games and software.
  19. If you have the Prema BIOS, which I think you do, you should do the following: Disable Ring Down Bin Set the performance mode to Hyperperformance I find that Hyperperformance mode yields the best stability while overclocking on this laptop, plus it opens up the power limits. Those are the only two settings I've adjusted for overlocking. I've set the non-turbo ratio to 8 so I can downclock and save power when using the laptop away from a power outlet. I'm also using adaptive voltage, but you'll of course get better results with static voltage. I just don't like using static voltage because it wastes power when the laptop is idle. I'm using Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut liquid metal on the CPU. The washers are just regular small sized washers that will fit the standard computer screws used in this laptop. The 4th CPU screw (the one that kinda hangs off to the side in a weird position) has also been cut off since it creates uneven mounting pressure on the CPU. As for the IHS, it's a 10th gen Rockitcool full copper IHS, which you can get here: https://rockitcool.myshopify.com/collections/10th-gen/products/copper-ihs-for-10th-gen If you'd like, I can message you pictures of the inside of my machine.
  20. There sure are, but none that you can put in this laptop unfortunately.😞 You can use an eGPU with this laptop through the thunderbolt port, but I personally don't see a point in doing so. If You wanted to though, the 6700 XT is as powerful or more powerful as the 2080 Super depending on the game. Anything higher tier than the 6700 XT (6750XT, 6800, 6800 XT, and 6900 XT), is an upgrade over the 2080 Super. Welcome to the club brother!
  21. Definitely thermal throttling. You can check to see if there is one core running significantly hotter than the others or if you just reached your thermal limit. There are a few ways to improve this of course. My heatsink is modded from zTecpc (using washers under the screws to increase mounting pressure, and the 4th CPU screw is cut off), my 10900K is a good bin from brother @Mr. Fox, it's delidded with liquid metal applied between the CPU die and IHS, I'm using the rockitcool full copper IHS, and I was using Phobya Nanogrease Extreme between the CPU and heatsink. With all of these improvements combined, I can do 5.5 GHz across 6 cores in games, 5.4 GHz all core for heavy productivity tasks, and 5.1 GHz all core in benchmarks. I have since repasted with liquid metal between the CPU and heatsink. Given a cold winter day, I could probably add another 100 MHz to the above speeds easily. I don't know of anyone else who has been able to achieve 5.5 GHz on this laptop to begin with though. I posted a picture of my results a while back. A good bin 10900K is definitely a prerequisite for anything higher than 4.9 GHz all core on this system. Even then, you'll only be able to take advantage of the silicon quality and open up the CPU with the mods I previously listed. Seriously, you can get a significant improvement in CPU speeds out of this laptop. I wish it was this way out of the box. Only way I can go any higher is if I get ahold of an even better bin 10900K. Full disclosure, the 10900K I got from @Mr. Fox is an SP 87, but it acts like an SP 100 chip. so the SP is not the end all be all. It overclocks extremely well. The only thing holding me back is thermals.
  22. That's probably what's going to end up happening. I'm more interested in seeing what MSI or Clevo will come up with, especially Clevo.
  23. Looks like Alienware is reviving their 18 inch laptop model: https://www.pcmag.com/news/alienware-is-reviving-the-brands-18-inch-gaming-laptop So we have Razer and Alienware announcing new 18 inch laptops. I'm liking this since it looks like we'll see the reemergence of 18 inch laptops. I'm hoping they're now here to stay since I like big screens and a big chassis. Hopefully there's at least one option that doesn't suck. Clevo definitely has an opportunity here to come in and completely curb stomp on the competition with a new model themselves. Here's to hoping!😁
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