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    I'm not sure why Linus was using Linux with this laptop. I'm pretty sure this laptop is meant to run Windows, so testing should've been performed using Windows. This is the kind of presentation that happens when you don't use something properly. Now people aren't going to be interested in the laptop because they'll think it sucks. I did find parts of the video funny though.
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    I did the exact same as you did. I entered into the shuffle just to see if I would win, and surprisingly I did! I got the 3080 ti coupon that was supposed to go to you. 🤣 I'm still not buying it even at this discounted price. It's still way too much for me.
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    Let the prices keep falling! I'm ready for GPUs to stop being overpriced. Stay strong everyone!
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    I'm still waiting for all XX80 cards and below to go under MSRP to snag one up for my new workstation. I'm seeing good deals on AMD's GPUs as well, but have never owned one, so I'm hesitant to get one, even though a significant portion of the games I play have a performance advantage on AMD's GPUs vs their Nvidia counterparts. I have no idea what kind of drawbacks may ensue for other applications I use for work. I could say "screw it I'll get both!", but that's kinda stupid.
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    Welcome back man! It's good to see you here! This is correct. I am personally using 2x 2TB Samsung 970 EVO Pluses in my X170SM-G. The 2TB m.2 860 EVOs seem to be out of stock. There are other brands though that offer 2TB m.2 Sata drives such as Western Digital. I'm not sure how good their SSDs are since I've only ever had experience with Samsung SSDs.
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    Yep. Decreasing temperature decreases electrical resistance, which in turn decreases the voltage required to remain stable. This increases power efficiency, which is why performance oriented laptops need better cooling than they currently have. Having better cooling will actually increase battery life. If people want better battery life, then we need thicker laptops! Or at least ones with better cooling. The whole temperature affecting stability concept didn't make sense to me at first, but you can think of it this way: more heat increases the voltage required to remain stable as @Mr. Fox said. When you go into extreme overclocking territory, the voltage requirements start increasing incredibly quickly, so a minor increase in temperature may require a significant increase in voltage to keep the CPU stable. CPUs don't like wild voltage swings. Those cause instability. Keeping the CPU as cool as possible minimizes the severity of voltage swings when the temperature changes, thus decreasing the chance of instability occuring. When the temperatures get really high, like at the thermal throttling point (TjMAX), the voltages required at stock max speeds are higher than normal, but manageable by the motherboard. However, under extreme overclocking scenarios, the voltages required to keep stability at that temperature may be in excess of 1.7 volts, which is really high. I think only high end motherboards can handle the kind of stress this voltage induces on the VRMs. Thus, temperatures always matter. The more extreme levels you want to take your overclocking to, the colder temperatures you will need to prevent wild, instability inducing voltage swings from occurring.
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    I did it! I got past 5.6 GHz! Here's a sweet 5.7 GHz on my super 10900K. Only single core, but I already know my cooler can't handle a 5.7 GHz all core load. I'm gonna need a water chiller for that. The power draw at 5.4 GHz all core is already getting insane as is. Next step, 5.8 GHz. What is the maximum safe voltage for daily use on a 10900K?
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    I think the performance difference is 15% MAX. In most cases it's more like half that. I got this laptop for its upgradeability, but seems we've been screwed over on an upgrade path. 😐
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    Has anyone tried doing direct die cooling with a thermoelectric cooler before? Basically I want to remove my IHS and the copper cold plate on my cooler and have the CPU die come in direct contact with the TEC plate. Is this safe or will it cause a short? I know electricity is running through the TEC, but I'm not sure if the contact plates themselves are electrically conductive or not. To my understanding, they're ceramic.
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    That's precisely why I don't buy stuff on ebay anymore. The last time I went to buy something there, they were now charging sales tax, which is stupid. I'm buying a used item from a person, not a new item from retail. I specifically went there to pay less for used items and avoid sales tax on said used items to save even more. It was like an online garage sale. Not anymore unfortunately. Lol, the label says MADE IN CHIAN. I'm assuming that's supposed to say China.
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    Heh heh yeah. We're basically trying to make a laptop how it should be.
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    Anyone who says a desktop CPU can't be as efficient as a laptop CPU obviously doesn't know how to do proper tuning. I tune all my systems for power efficiency when I need it and performance when I need it. Here is the 10900K in my newly built workstation at idle: The CPU only consumes 1 watt while idle. Obviously this is a desktop, so absolute performance matters more, which is what I'm going to tune for next, but this is proof desktops can compete with laptops in power efficiency when tuned correctly. I dont think I will get another laptop after my X170SM-G given the current idiotic state of the laptop market. I'm also tired of getting screwed over on upgrades. I'll be going for a dual desktop setup; one uber powerful one that stays at home, and one portable one that can fit into a laptop bag. Time to see what this super 10900K is capable of with the MasterLiquid M360 Sub-Zero.
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    I was only doing single core testing for 5.5 GHz at that time, so nothing too crazy. I think the power draw was around 70-75 watts. Had it been all core, I'd imagine the power draw would be over 300 watts at the temperature the CPU was operating at. The X170 seems to have a current limit though as I've never been able to get over 275 watts, even with the power limits set insanely high.
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    I see you're a fan of the Noctua Industrial iPPC fans as well. I love them. They're loud but they move so much air!
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    I know. That was pretty awesome. I hope to beat that using the cryo cooler and the Gigabyte Aorus Master Z590 motherboard in my newly built workstation. This is gonna be fun.😁
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    5.6 GHz is not possible on the Clevo X170SM-G. 5.5 GHz is the max possible speed on this laptop. No matter what I did, the system would freeze. I dropped temperatures further too. Condensation started forming on the laptop, so I stopped dropping the temperature further. 5.5 GHz is achievable on a max of 6 cores. Any more and the laptop freezes. I'm thinking there's a current limit on the motherboard that is limiting how high I can go as there is a lot of temperature headroom left even at 5.5 GHz. The motherboard is the equivalent of a budget Z490 desktop motherboard though, so that makes sense. Next up, this same super 10900K is going into my new workstation I've been building. It has a really beefy high end Z590 motherboard in it, so I should be able to take the CPU higher in it.
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    5.6 GHz is not possible on the Clevo X170SM-G. 5.5 GHz is the max possible speed on this laptop. No matter what I did, the system would freeze. I dropped temperatures further too. Condensation started forming on the laptop, so I stopped dropping the temperature further. 5.5 GHz is achievable on a max of 6 cores. Any more and the laptop freezes. I'm thinking there's a current limit on the motherboard that is limiting how high I can go as there is a lot of temperature headroom left even at 5.5 GHz. The motherboard is the equivalent of a budget Z490 desktop motherboard though, so that makes sense. Next up, this same super 10900K is going into my new workstation I've been building. It has a really beefy high end Z590 motherboard in it, so I should be able to take the CPU higher in it.
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    I posted this in the Clevo X170SM-G Owner's Lounge, but I'm posting it here too for those of you who don't follow that thread. Previously, the highest speed I could achieve in my Clevo X170SM-G was 5.4 GHz, both single and all core. Obviously this laptop doesn't have the cooling to sustain that speed indefinitely on all cores, only for very short bursts. It can however sustain that indefinitely for low core count loads. I wanted to try and achieve a higher speed on a single core as there was still voltage and thermal headroom left for that. 5.4 GHz is already amazing in a laptop, but why not try to take it higher? We are enthusiasts who love tuning our computers after all. After some messing around, I was able to do 5.5 GHz single core in my Clevo X170SM-G! It seems there is a temperature requirement for any speeds higher than 5.4 GHz, at least when the CPU is in this laptop. I'd imagine it'd be the same for desktops at some point, since high temperatures will cause instability at high speeds unless the voltage is increased. It's really cool seeing my laptop's CPU running this cool, hehe.🤣 I was able to do 5.5 GHz single core until the temperature rose above 158°F (70°C), at which point the system froze. I'm gonna try for 5.6 GHz single core next. Hopefully I don't blow any VRMs.
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    Success! I was able to do 5.5 GHz single core! It seems there is a temperature requirement for any speeds higher than 5.4 GHz, at least when the CPU is in this laptop. I'd imagine it'd be the same for desktops at some point, since high temperatures will cause instability at high speeds unless the voltage is increased. It's really cool seeing my laptop's CPU running this cool, hehe.🤣 I was able to do 5.5 GHz single core until the temperature rose above 158°F (70°C), at which point the system froze.
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    Also @electrosoft, thanks for finding the screw that causes issues. I've been having weird stability issues with my laptop the past 2 weeks, and loosening that screw fixed it all. No more stupid black screens when turning on the laptop. I tried for 5.5 GHz again. My laptop wanted to push 1.601 volts into the CPU, which is way more than this CPU needs since it's a really good bin. I'll try again with decreased temperatures from the cooler. The system crashed after that. I hope I don't blow my VRMs.😅
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    That screw could somehow be affecting pin contact. That's a really nice find! I've been wanting to do some messing around with the Sub-Zero cooler on my X170 but haven't found the time yet. I'm almost done assembling my workstation though. It just needs a CPU now, which I will plot in once I'm done with my testing.
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    There are 2 RX 6900 XT models available for $700 now. These are the Powercolor and Gigabyte versions. Let the GPU price drops continue!
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    Yeah I'm waiting for prices to drop further as well. Pretty much every GPU right now is still significantly above MSRP. I don't know where or how in the world people are getting new GPUs for MSRP like some news outlets are reporting, and I'm in the US. I really need a GPU to complete my new workstation build. At this point in the generation, prices should be below MSRP all across the board. I expect prices to drop further over the next few weeks. This is gonna be a buyers market for sure. If vendors don't drop their prices once more used cards flood the market, theirs won't sell. I don't like taking pleasure in peoples' misfortunes, but this is sweet payback for the sky high prices we had this generation.
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    I got all the new parts I needed to build a workstation except for the GPU. I'd forgotten how good desktop land was. The motherboard arrived today. It's almost as big as my laptop. This is the first time I've ever had an ATX board, and it's a high end one at that. It definitely has some weight to it, probably due to the really beefy power delivery and the heatsinks that cover it. This thing is extremely solidly built. It's built like a tank!
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