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I technically spliced the wiring from the factory sub. I ran extra wiring to the new sub. I did disconnect the old sub at the time to give the new sub full power. My post was on the notebookreview forum and it got taken down so I will have to find it in the archive. EDIT: Here's my post: https://www.nbrchive.net/xfa/alienware-18-and-m18x.1092/MSI GT72S Subwoofer Installation [M18xR2]/
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The Beast Returns - Alienware m18 - i9 13980HK 24c/RTX 4090 Mobile
ssj92 replied to ssj92's topic in Alienware 18 and M18x
My PTM7950 is delayed until Monday...I still have some left over but it might only cover 1 component. May have to use the PTM7958 paste on gpu and ptm7950 pad on cpu... I'm going to try this today. You will get a whole youtube video uploaded hopefully by tomorrow if I don't kill the laptop LOL -
I added a bigger subwoofer in the 3.5" bay in addition to stock. But later on got rid of it.
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I will try ptm7950 this Saturday and see if it fixes the core differential issue and allows my CPU to not hit 100c. The m18 screen definitely feels bigger than area-51m, especially thanks to the 16:10 aspect ratio and higher resolution. I like the m18 screen personally. The colors are good, the screen calibration is quite good out of the box. Brightness is fine for me (mine is ~304 nits). Watching 16:9 content feels a bit better on M18x because of the 16:9 resolution (you get black bars on m18 due to 16:10 ratio) but the m18 feels good for overall usage. The GPU limit of 87c is main gpu temp not hot spot. I've never seen the GPU even hit 80c in any workload so should be fine either way I added a subwoofer to my m18xr2 a long time ago from GT72 laptop. It worked fine and I am thinking of looking around to see if any subwoofer would fit inside m18 (mainly where those two 2230 m.2 slots are)
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The Beast Returns - Alienware m18 - i9 13980HK 24c/RTX 4090 Mobile
ssj92 replied to ssj92's topic in Alienware 18 and M18x
Damn none of y'all took any pics of the disassembly process? lol What did you use to disassemble, is the service manual available? I'm getting a 2nd batch of ptm7950 phase change pads so I will open mine up Saturday EDIT: Looked at the service manual. Looks like the motherboard comes out without having to remove palm rest/display assembly. Shouldn't be too bad then -
M17x R4 - 5 beeps with any graphics card
ssj92 replied to deadsmiley's topic in Alienware 17 and M17x
Has to do with BIOS whitelist. Only 460M, 560M and 580M are approved in BIOS to use 3D mode. Otherwise my 880M would work too. 675M works in 3D mode but only in M17xR4 due to same BIOS whitelist. I guess no one ever figured out a way to bypass it. -
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ssj92 replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Okay mine is the opposite, all cores run cool except 1 p-core. I’m gonna remove AW element 31” then and go with ptm7950. I don’t use tcc offset, my scores are already way higher than these other youtubers. Luckily tcc is optional. The cooling system is fine but same issue as last decade, the stock paste job is crap. gives me hope I can tame this 1 p-core then my cpu will run full speed 24/7 😎 -
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ssj92 replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Figured I’d ask y’all this with 13th-gen CPUs. so right now one of my p-cores hits 100c while the rest of the laptop cores are like high 80s to low 90s. AW uses “element 31” a mixture of liquid metal and paste on their cpu/gpu. i am thinking of removing it and using ptm7950 phase change pads which have given me good results in other laptops. my question is, will it fix it? I heard 13th gen has a issue with this and repasting won’t help. What are the core differentials y’all are seeing? -
M17x R4 - 5 beeps with any graphics card
ssj92 replied to deadsmiley's topic in Alienware 17 and M17x
Official cards for 3D support are 580M, 560M, and 460M: One secret is...675M = 580M it's just a rebrand. You can run the 675M in M17xR3 but need to flash vBIOS to 580M to enable 3D: https://www.ebay.com/itm/234599878542?hash=item369f3e0f8e:g:U6EAAOSwwsJitSZU&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAwLb3mYxs2HMXLJXKCSpaf3ae9Q7TmQXenxzUj5s1bBljSp0UGfVrHLVwb3AUdSJNAf6YW0RBYhLp52lR8tdUeSTdfjy%2BTf3g65AUgKkGcIlfdfRPd3nhbawvcOrxS6y89lyCFGeOasjmdWrE9jzxTSdqwFnk6PwDVB0ToCkVl2yACGeRYVwUIp1SW%2FuqjLlSe8%2B3w1lmbPEPaCHwkb5En8nKKZOAuyfpOWF2N8PHUMzUDDFlPbXsn8WJZxj8Sd%2Bdkw%3D%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR8jH7-7sYQ 560M: https://www.ebay.com/itm/334798073347?hash=item4df3852e03:g:hW8AAOSw6CdkF5lW&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAwGZNPh89KBlXDI%2FAqrllZwnwy48HyaRxRrs0Ah0wqfJFuA7qKL2Sq5%2FbvmUKzeVAlioAiCtfD2DUFYj36pPNESeGxxrKDFJmoiARaVYFruKJ0GG%2FQHVW3LudvXNeGr93y8%2FzZXfSRiJrPBGiVyTHLvePAuVYqpbFgGBiy41YEYa7BTHGTXwtlJKkNn0TEW%2FQAOWqeaG%2B%2FTY%2FSjkzPQzRdt3FS4o57ze7vD%2FWxLJ9wtIjTPVm%2FH2FPjllGwCwNDyTvg%3D%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR8TA5e7sYQ 460M: https://www.ebay.com/itm/334798061753?hash=item4df38500b9:g:38gAAOSw2r1kF5YA&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAwH8Nkjmg5K47rsIEz5PZ1FoTvLLtYEvBUTCm5%2BIzUjL9AASRNU6tfYPt55wxAMq2ie09HMmhqnUAtvSmRwKzBgodb0szZJE6Cca9LLmN4RX0Z7sM5qpXtmpZ4ELq15F874YuP9kTAF1TjIhPUx0t8NICAJcU4mOgfXHzs2v1ebLVzY32%2FRnt3F4eE%2B1j0X6kVkXRUiqVoeoTgReEwQ5btLHAz9%2BGr0nW%2BsgubT8HfRPoAZaNpwP%2F3itDJPot5%2FGdoQ%3D%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR8yx6O7sYQ If you don't care about 3D support and are fine using the display without 3D, try and find a cheap 880M, 780M, or 680M for maximum performance -
The Beast Returns - Alienware m18 - i9 13980HK 24c/RTX 4090 Mobile
ssj92 replied to ssj92's topic in Alienware 18 and M18x
Interesting, I will have to test that out because in my testing, a clean install scored really well. M btw do you have any pics during the disassembly? Not sure how much I need to disassemble yet to get to the heatsink Review is out... -
Hope everyone finds it useful. Only two things I really want to emphasize: Audio is good BUT can be so much better. It needs a subwoofer and you will hear the difference when I compare it to the previous flagships! The overheating problem is real, BUT it is mostly an issue on 1-2 P-Cores for most people. The whole CPU is not overheating but just a core or two. This unfortunately will require a repaste to fix. Undervolting does help a lot and form BIOS 1.6.0 you can UV through BIOS or XTU/Throttlestop. The 300 nit display is critized because competitors have 400-500 nit displays. Well, take a look at my 500 nit macbook compared to the 300 nit AW. Yes the Macbook is brighter but the actual difference in real life is not much. The AW display is a true 300 nit display (not under 300). It has has 100% DCI-P3 and 87% AdobeRGB color space which is excellent. The fan noise...when doing normal tasks, this thing is quiet! And I mean QUIET! Only when you game or put the CPU on high loads does the fans kick in. Even then, they don't go to 100%. I do show how 100% sounds and unless you are running both gpu & cpu to high loads, the fans normally never reach 100%. Overall, from the other laptops in 2023, the AW m18 is the best "all around" laptop. It's cheaper than the MSI & Razer Blade models even without a coupon.
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M17x R4 - 5 beeps with any graphics card
ssj92 replied to deadsmiley's topic in Alienware 17 and M17x
If your old GPU is a 580M then most likely it has gone bad. 580M were known for going bad. 560M is more reliable and still allows using the 3D feature on the internal panel. I kept my 560M in case I ever want to go back to using 3D mode but right now I am using 880M as it's the fastest GPU for M17xR3. -
The Beast Returns - Alienware m18 - i9 13980HK 24c/RTX 4090 Mobile
ssj92 replied to ssj92's topic in Alienware 18 and M18x
I'm not locking it. It's doing that on its own. I just max out all the power limits and fans. If you truly aren't thermal throttling you should be reaching my scores easily -
The Beast Returns - Alienware m18 - i9 13980HK 24c/RTX 4090 Mobile
ssj92 replied to ssj92's topic in Alienware 18 and M18x
I currently have 1 P-core causing 100c issue. Most of my cores are in the low 80s. This tells me a re-paste should fix my issue. I am currently working on my review video, once I am done, I will give it a shot. Might even make a disassembly video. The evolution of 18 series: -
The Beast Returns - Alienware m18 - i9 13980HK 24c/RTX 4090 Mobile
ssj92 replied to ssj92's topic in Alienware 18 and M18x
How long did it take? I'm thinking of just doing this to mine too. Why can't we use IPA wipes? I've cleaned LM on older laptops using IPA wipes before. New scores btw: Slowly making my way up. 8th place global 4090n FS and 28th TS -
*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
ssj92 replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Slowly making my way up. 8th place global 4090n FS and 28th TS -
The Beast Returns - Alienware m18 - i9 13980HK 24c/RTX 4090 Mobile
ssj92 replied to ssj92's topic in Alienware 18 and M18x
I think AW meant well by putting Liquid Metal on CPU/GPU but in this case, paste would have been a better choice or ptm7950 phase change pads due to uneven heatsinks most likely. Since @win32asmguy m18 died from trying to re-paste I'm going to wait and see how others fair before opening mine up. My PTM7958 phase change paste came in -
The Beast Returns - Alienware m18 - i9 13980HK 24c/RTX 4090 Mobile
ssj92 replied to ssj92's topic in Alienware 18 and M18x
Are you on BIOS 1.6.0? Your CPU seems to be thermal throttling quite a lot, this is why the score is low. -
The Beast Returns - Alienware m18 - i9 13980HK 24c/RTX 4090 Mobile
ssj92 replied to ssj92's topic in Alienware 18 and M18x
Now that's a familiar name/avatar. Do a -100mV undervolt. then make sure your fans are 100% (might need to do custom profile in AWCC) and try again -
Wow horrible pricing. I got my fully loaded laptop for $3254 after tax which I think is a decent pricing considering its specs. I did have a 15% off coupon that helped a lot but those dell precisions costing that much is definitely not worth it. Same with razer blade/msi laptops with 4090. All overpriced.
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GPU scores 24k overclocked properly so it can get above 3090Ti levels. 23k is quite easy to achieve. I haven't messed around with gpu OC much yet since I am tuning CPU. 20k CPU is already better than most people's stock 13900hx and mine is stock on stock paste. OC should get 21-22k hopefully. Only Prema seems to have 22k so far but power limits/current limits are unlocked on AW so I don't see why I couldn't break 21k or higher by OC.
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Stock paste, here's some more. Goal is to catch up to Prema who is running a custom bios:
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The Beast Returns - Alienware m18 - i9 13980HK 24c/RTX 4090 Mobile
ssj92 replied to ssj92's topic in Alienware 18 and M18x
Undervolt, max power/current limits. , max fans. ~32k is normal for 100c 13900HX Here's some more scores: -
Alienware 17 Rager GTX 970M upgrade 8 beeps
ssj92 replied to Johndill's topic in Alienware 17 and M17x
Yes this seems to be the issue: 1. Embedded DisplayPort (eDP) is supported on DP_D only. If I remember correctly, AW eDP is DP_C not DP_D so yes it won't work, unless this is a vBIOS only issue. But if it's wired for DP_D as well then it requires hardware mod. -
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ssj92 replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Tried in 3 different laptops. the RAM reverts to 5200Mhz during post. Someone got it working in m16 for a few mins then crashed and reverted to 5200Mhz. I even bought two different kits so it's not the kit. Interestingly, the 5800Mhz 32GB Kit AW provided to notebookcheck seems to be working fine. Seems to be some issue with 64GB, 32GB runs fine at native speeds. I'm thinking I'll need to loosen timings, because idk how to do voltage yet. It's in the bios but it doesn't use standard numbers to change values so haven't figured it out yet. Laptop SODIMM apparently has much more limitations than desktop DDR5. But I know for a fact that 32GB 5600mHZ and 5800Mhz RAM is working fine.