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I have not but a fellow aw member tested p5200 in m18xr2. It works once you solder on the bios chip and flash it

I tried messaging crucial to see when I can order the 48gb so-dimms. about the 9tb thing...it sounds like typical AW selling their "certified" SSDs from the dell online store. Should be no problem using 4x 8TB NVMe SSDs but we won't know that until someone tests it. All four ports should be 2280 size I think

My RTX 3000 is from Adlink, you will probably never be able to find it online unless someone from a company sells it. The HP RTX series are available on eBay and quite cheap. Not sure if they will physically fit as they are slightly larger than standard mxm 3.0b. There is a P4000 on eBay for $280 P5000 for $350 Prices have come down and those are also great options.

If upgrading from 20 series to 30 series, gpu power cable is the same correct?

@1610ftw looks like we are getting 48gb x2 (96gb) sodimms now? Crucial Now Has 24 GB & 48 GB DDR5 Memory Options For Desktop & Laptop PCs (wccftech.com)

https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-4090-laptop-GPU-first-impressions-pit-flagship-graphics-card-against-GeForce-RTX-3080-Ti.683346.0.html This is straight up following nVidia's guidelines on how to show performance. We don't care about dlss 2 vs 3 and the performance improvement over 3080Ti. We want to see direct raw performance between 3080Ti & 4090

3070 MSI Gaming Trio (I removed the whole top cover as I like to look at my cards. 3090 Kingpin & XC3. 2080Ti PNY Blower RX 6800 Reference These are the most recent ones I tried.

I can confirm i have tested rtx 3070, 3090 rx 6800 to work in aga 4000 series also works

The fact that every single manufacturer has this limitation or even less tells me nvidia / intel didn’t want manufacturers pushing their products. NVidia didn’t let clevo make a 3080ti mxm card and now even clevo is 100% bga. at this point nvidia/intel control what and how their products get used. will be very interesting seeing the AMD versions of the same laptops.

Some manufacturers yes but no sure on AW

As far as I know, embargo has already been lifted. It's nVidia's GPUs holding back people from discussing laptops but CPU wise it's been lifted. Will be curious if OC works and it can sustain the OC. Hoping XTU or TS helps keep clocks up on load and thermals are only limiting factor, but we will see.

Jarrod'sTech on Twitter: "Not bad, for a laptop https://t.co/uFM1tZKww4" / Twitter I'm a bit disappointed he hit us with the "it's an engineering sample so I didn't test power consumption, temps, boost time, etc" True difference between a enthusiast and one who isn't. I would have tested all that. We know by now that the "engineering sample" in that system is likely a QS "qualification sample" which is 99% representative of real world performance. If it was some ES from early stages I'd understand. Can't wait to put these level of systems to their paces myself 😄

The 250w total is already a thing on current 12th gen/30 series laptops. The CPU by itself can hit full speed and gpu can always hit full speed but cpu gets limited to 75w tdp when gpu is at full power. All the RTX 4090 + i9 HX CPU systems will have this 250w limit or less. It's unfortunate that dual psu systems are gone. We will have to wait until they're released to see how they really perform.

There's a MXM 3.0b to PCIe 3.0 X16 adapter that exists in China. One of our members in AW Club has one. He ran a 6900 XT in M18xR2 if I remember correctly. BTW Does anyone know if the i9 10980HK LGA version from China works in X170SM-G? I think @ViktorVis using one in P870TM or something. EDIT: Just realized it's 8 cores lol, 10900K or KF it is.

Do you have a 12800/12900HX system with a RTX 3070Ti or better gpu? As far as I know, this whole 'total TDP" thing has already been a thing since 12th gen /30 series. If you have one run prime95 on cpu and msi kombuster on gpu and see the tdp of both chips. They probably won't run full power. my 12700H/RTX 3060 have this limitation where one gets less power (intel cpu in this case) to allow max gpu performance. Go to stress test section: MSI Titan GT77 12UHS Laptop Review: Alder Lake-HX poster child with unhindered desktop-class performance - NotebookCheck.net Reviews "he Titan GT77 uses MSI OverBoost for a combined 250 W load (75 W CPU + 175 W GPU) from both the CPU and the GPU depending on the scenario" nothing new is happening with the new systems, this has been a thing this whole time This is the same thing that will happen with new systems. 250w total system power means if cpu has 100% load and gpu is 0% load, the cpu will still be able to use all of its power. It wouldn't make sense for intel to limit 13980HX power in cpu bound situations less than 12900HX especially with 8 additional cores. First set of laptops can be ordered Feb 1st and release Feb 8th so just a few more weeks before tests will be performed. You can bet I will be doing my own tests when I get my system. Alienware openly states in their press materials (link in first post) about 250w total power. I can't find the info on third manufacturer right now but if I remember correctly it was razers system.

The predecessors also have 8 less cores. These CPUs can be OC so I assume you can exceed the TDP on CPU only loads. The 75w limit comes in when GPU load goes up, which is how it is right now too. There are already 3 manufacturers (I think 5 total but 3 100% for sure) that have this same 250w total tdp for cpu/gpu. This is definitely something intel/nVidia probably came up with and enforce onto manufacturers. nVidia didn't want Clevo to make a 3080Ti MXM for X170TM-G, I wouldn't doubt they won't allow higher TDPs on these systems with agreement from Intel. yes it is stupid to give a 250w total tdp. My Area-51m can easily exceed 400w combined on 9900k/2080 and supports 660w thanks to 2x330w. Even my old m18xR2 can easily exceed 330w with XM CPU OC/SLI GPUs. From what I saw, no single laptop at CES has dual power adapter support. They will all probably be limited to 330w total system power.

^Exactly this. The Intel CPU in mobile has a 157W max TDP however, it looks like they are targeting less or only reach that with CPU only load. GPU will be 175w max and again with combined power it looks like gpu will probably do 175w and cpu will do 75w.

Just so you know, every single laptop at CES 2023 with RTX 4090 + i9 13980HX have a combined 250w TDP for the system. This is most likely a limitation set by Intel/nVidia.

Are they aware of the sound system concerns vs x16 as well? m18 better have a sub if they want to call it an 18" =D Personally, I can accept a 300 nit screen if it's a high quality screen with 100% adobergb color space, deep blacks, and good contrast (refresh rate too). I personally would be more critical on sound system. Most high end displays on laptops are 500 nits, some 600 nits. hdr is a different story.

"Intel EVO Laptops"? WHY are they doing this to themselves? The EVO laptops with 1260p does not have any special hardware that my 12700H doesn't have as far as I know? Unless one of y'all got a link to the software that should work on any pc running windows 11? AW connect I tried once and it was cool but no where near the speed/integration of macOS + iPhone. Hoping this has improved things quite a bit

Personally I went with a Vita. The OLED display is very nice. Not to mention I can now play any PSP game as well. It's more expensive yes but it has a lot of software support. I can play my PC games remotely using moonlight app. PSP was a really good portable back in the day. I used to have so many mods/homebrew for it. I still have one somewhere but it doesn't turn on.

I see it as two ways. 1) It really is 300 nits typical brightness and the peak isn't accounted for (I honestly prefer measuring this way) so we are going to have a display that isn't that bright (which is weird because there are other 18" panels that are 240hz and higher brightness 2) It is a typo and we will be shocked (doubtful on this) I'm fairly confident this is the 2560x1600 panel: N180GME-GAA Specification & Datasheets - Panelook.com

Wow I didn’t realize the Area-51m R2 only has 2 sodimm slots. I can do 128gb on my R1 (have 64gb right now). My X58 board was supposed to do 12gb originally, then it did 24gb thanks to 4gb dimms, now I’m at 48gb thanks to 8gb dimms. It can happen with ddr5 as well. I remember it being mentioned somewhere when ddr5 was announced that we would be getting higher density ram. clevo did have an 18.4” laptop, the x8100. Their first all bga laptop the x270 never came out as far as I know. Most of us went to Clevo for their upgradable laptops. Now that no one offer it, it’s down to what laptop offers everything one wants.

Just to copy/paste in the event that post ever gets deleted or something: Further reading of experiences around the AGA in this and other forums, made me even try the plug and unplug technique proven to work by some users with the 3000 series (https://www.dell.com/community/Alienware/PCI-e-3-0-x4-for-ampere-3080-3090-question/m-p/7894720#M43691), however I had no luck until I did the following: Uninstalled AWCC using Revo uninstaller (advanced scan and deleting found entries is mandatory after uninstalling) Restarted system Uninstalled Nvidia drivers Restarted system Installed the Chipset INF utility Restarted the system Located the following subkey in regedit HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\PnP\Pci Generated the HackFlags entry with a value data of 200 as depicted here (https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/troubleshoot/windows-client/deployment/error-attach-pci-express-expansion-chassis) Reinstalled Nvidia drivers using the latest package Restarted system The card was still being detected as “Microsoft Basic Display Adapter”, so I uninstalled the Nvidia drivers Restarted the system Generated the HackFlags entry with a value data of 400 as previously described (this value worked for me) Reinstalled Nvidia drivers Restarted the system After restarting, the card was outputting video and recognized as NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Ti Reinstalled the latest AWCC Restarted the system After restarting, the card and AGA were also being recognized in the AWCC Important notes: The HackFlags entry never worked for me until I uninstalled the NVIDIA drivers each time I modified the subkey; for this reason I suggest testing systematically the 200, 400 and 600 values always uninstalling and reinstalling. Apparently AWCC can interfere with process since I tried everything depicted below and it did not work until AWCC was uninstalled. The AGA and card were connected to my laptop the whole time

The fact that Clevo decided not to enter the 18" market like everyone else shows have they have fallen. The m18 will be one of the best options for sure. They used the thicker m chassis instead of lightweight x chassis. I am still looking forward to get more info on the m18 as I want to know about the speakers too.