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electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
So the 3090ti is upon us (aka Last of the Money Grabs). Nvidia 3090ti Founders Edition is $2000 so that's the new baseline and all cards go up from there. EVGA queues are open for all their cards (except the lowest spec'd 3090ti FTW3 which is full and closed). EVGA's FTW3 bottom tier card is actually priced the same as the Founders. They continue to offer the best pricing overall versus all other makers along with a killer warranty service. KPE 3090ti queues are open. With the new 3.0 Queue system, you can only queue up for ONE 3090ti model (you are limited to one card per chipset). If you queue up and get a FTW3 you can't get a KPE 3090ti too. K|NGP|N 3090ti: https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=24G-P5-4998-KR I'm expecting the KP 3090ti to clock in at $2499.99. Asus Strix 3090ti LC is actually competitively priced this time $2199.99: https://www.newegg.com/asus-geforce-rtx-3090-ti-rog-strix-lc-rtx3090ti-o24g-gaming/p/N82E16814126554?Description=strix 3090ti&cm_re=strix_3090ti-_-14-126-554-_-Product&quicklink=true Overall multi game average difference: Pretty substantial difference between my Strix 3080 10GB and 3090TI. $1000+ worth of difference? Hmmmm.... As predicted, same 3090 vs same 3090ti you're seeing a 5-10% uplift. I expect the KPE 3090ti to offer the same gap at the least. -
I use a BenQ 4k panel that is FreeSync compatible and Gsync is enabled but my panel is 60hz so even with it enabled/disabled it can't touch anywhere near the smoothness of my laptop 144hz Gsync panel enabled. For World of Warcraft I find using Gsync enabled works the best albeit I'll reap bigger dividends when I eventually switch to a higher refresh 4k panel or step down to 1440p. One thing I won't sacrifice is color accuracy so my options are limited.
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Something is definitely wrong with your GPU cooling somewhere along the chain. I have a 2080 Super and it tops out around 68-73 and fans don't even go to max. That is playing WoW or even running synthetics. That would definitely send your fans into a tizzy. What CPU do you run and how are those temps? Open up HWinfo and see exactly how everything is running after some stress tests (TimeSpy and CB23 for starters). I think this is the official link to the X170SM-G drivers: https://download.schenker-tech.de/package/xmg-ultra-17-idxul17m20/
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*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Newest Asus Z690 D4 BIOS update (1201 -> 1304). Read speeds increased by 7000+ and latency dropped by ~3ns compared to 1201 with the 2x8 G.skill Bdie. This is comparing stock XMP timings for consistency (Pure stock run). I picked up a 980 Pro 1TB to replace my SN850 500GB along with those 2x16GB bdie sticks from @Mr. Fox so that's next up this afternoon to go with a clean install. -
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electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
If it is a relatively newish D15 (less than 6yrs old) if should have an Intel 115x bracket in there to work. -
There's much less talk because our SMs aren't encountering as many issues as the KM which seems to have stalled in issue resolution from the OEMs. True, if you have a stock unit then Prema is not available. You could reach out to Prema and see if a donation of sorts would get a remote upgrade to it but that is your only recourse atm. As for drivers, I'd recommend XMG's set of drivers as they seem to be the most up to date. Those coupled with their BIOS/FW is the most current. Are you having any other issues with your unit besides driver updates? What config are you running?
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If I had your system for fun, first thing I would is start swapping parts with my SM to verify each component. I would then take your 10700k and swap it into my desktop motherboard and get an idea of its quality and delid it and map out expected V/F curve and lock down rock solid UV. I'd end up swapping in the 3080 to my SM and then swap in the 2080 Super into the KM just to verify the motherboard is not an issue or culprit. I would also install XMG's newest BIOS and FW too. I have a couple of 10900k's I would be swapping in to test also to compare thermals and characteristics versus SM. I know you're wary, but I would also end up fixing the bent pin(s) too. I've been in your situation where you've just had enough of the problems and you want to wash your hands of the whole thing and just get something different or build out a desktop.
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Giving up the battle eh? Make sure to describe any gaming problems or issues you've had too (black screens, etc...) because I can guarantee you if the buyer experiences any of that they will be returning it on your S&H dime. I know the unit has been somewhat problematic for you so being completely open and honest will prevent any open disputes and returns. Make sure to take better pics too especially of the crack. If it shows up in worse shape than pictured, that will get you a potential return also.
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Glad it was able to get resolved relatively fast. I'm so paranoid about not having a competent rig I usually keep a backup or two (laptop(s), desktop(s) and parts galore) just in case. We have two gaming PCs in the house now for my wife and I and the one time hers went down due to GPU failure she was not a happy camper. 🙂
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*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
That 5 pipe GPU HS is going to make cooling the 860m a breeze even with a monster OC. Looking forward to the results (and seeing the Lone Ranger ride again 😀) -
*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
That ATX case looks rather nice! I'll have to add it to my list. -
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electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
18L and pretty tall to boot (look at it next to some other cases). I'm trying to have it all with good performance but also somewhat portable. I don't want to feel like I'm lugging a desktop with me but I also want at least 280mm support in less than 13L. If you absolutely want 360mm-420mm support there isn't any way to overcome the volumetric realities of their size so even an itx or questionable "sff" case will have to be of some certain size to accommodate their size. If I had problems fitting an AC 420mm in my behemoth of a desktop case and only the front was viable, it makes sense even an mITX case is going to carry some size with it too. -
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Whoa..... that thing is pretty beefy but I like the glass and silver in the front. It makes your MB almost look like a mATX or m-ITX. -
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electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
I tried thinking of every reason to take that nice combo off of @Mr. Fox 's hands as it was a great deal. I have so many little build projects, system upgrades and other tests backed up atm due to work and the new WoW patch that the list is growing. Still sealed in box EVGA 3060ti, Asrock mini and itx MB x 2, 3 drives, still sealed 12100f, B-die sticks sitting waiting for installation and testing in the wife's rig, 980 pro `tb on the way, a whole list of projects for the X170KM-G and more... Right now I'm trying to lock down the best bang:buck set of 4000 2x16GB sticks for my Strix D4 as I'm running 2x8GB b-die 4000 atm. @Reciever what is the state of mining atm for you? -
*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
As if on cue @Clamibot .... I'm really liking the Dan A4-H20 atm... -
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electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
That looks like something I could definitely work with...Obsidian Black with a vented side panel would be nice. -
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electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
I like that but for portability with all its goodies exposed? Hmmm... The sfftime 10L seems it wouldn't handle an AIO but the 14L might. I definitely don't want to do air cooling on a 12th. I'd want at least a 280mm. Here is a review of the P-ATX V2. It is a bit bigger height and width and 10L is a bit misleading since it is lean: With a dual slot and SFF PSU and ITX: -
*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
He is extremely annoying. He used to work for AppleInsider and wanted to sensationalize everything and push for clicks clicks clicks! They ended up parting ways over editorial differences it seems and he branched out on his own. He brings that over the top approach to his channel. I'm subbed and watch some of his videos and yeah he is bit "ZOMG! WOW! WHOAZERS! YIKES! ZOINKS!" but the content is solid. In some target apps, the Studio does shine but overall computational power? Still can't beat a 12900k and the GPU shockingly gets trounced by the 3090 no matter what Apple wants us to believe. In terms of performance per watt though it is pretty impressive. -
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electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
I am looking at ~200w GPU power levels (3060ti) min and 12th gen. The P case looks more portable/protected. I like all that ventilation on it. The Lian Li has a bit too much tempered glass and volume for my idea of something luggable. -
That's true. You could resell it as parts.
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electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Agreed, the SP82 was much better than the SP89. Basically if a chip can hit Intel's baseline criteria of 5.5 x 2 and 5.2 x 8 @ ~261w it can get a 12900ks stamp of approval. So what if it blows up into a 300w+ heat box at 5.3 all core or won't do 5.3 at all? If you're Joe Average user and want to plug and play and get 5.5 x 2 / 5.2 x 8 out of the box guaranteed the 12900ks is a sure hit. I'll be passing on it and with the debacle that is the 5800X3D, I'll be waiting to see what 13th and 6000 series bring to the table. Wow, I didn't know a full size ATX sff case existed, nice! -
Ouch, but at least they have one in stock so you can get it back sooner versus later. As for Windows, as long as you had an active Windows account you can transfer the license from the old system to the new one with a Digital License.
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electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Looks like the 12900KS boosts up to 5.5 x 2 and 5.2 x 8. e-cores boost up to 4.0 x 8 (!). PL1 and PL2 are 150w and 260w. So if your 12900k can do 5.5 x 2 and 5.2 x 8 / 4.0 x 8 and keep the total draw to ~260w congrats....you have a 12900ks. Funny, my SP91 hits those numbers exactly when set to 5.2 / 4.0 (261w) at a max of ~82c on the AC LF 420mm when just set to auto (no dialing in). The other 3 chips I tested: #1. Wouldn't boot at 5.2 (SP81) #2. Did 5.2 at 297w 94c (SP82) #3. Did 5.2 at 327w Thermal Throttled (SP89) https://videocardz.com/newz/unreleased-intel-core-i9-12900ks-outperforms-ryzen-9-5950x-in-leaked-single-and-multi-core-cinebench-tests -
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electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
I've been chopping it up with my bud the last month or so thinking the same thing building out an "ultra portable" mini-itx or micro atx and either a lightweight, compact 17.3"+ display or use a USB powered 17.3" display meaning minimal hassle and only one power outlet required. Couple that with a cherry picked CPU like my 12900k I have now that has lots of headroom but knowing at stock it will pull ~163-170w even under CB23 level loads and build around that. Turn off the e cores and that plummets even more. We've even been thinking of a 3d printed chassis with custom specs but that would be more in line with an actual massive laptop form factor (Think a super thick mALX-19 or Predator 21 size body). Height is determined by the shortest, viable sff PSU. I would think 250w, depending on CPU quality, would afford decent headroom for overclocking except for major all core benching. Depending on AMD's 6000 series and considering cooling and headroom, that would be a possible sff portable build out too. I have an Asrock B660M micro ATX MB to play around with for mock ups at the moment and researching a lot of cases both micro and mini. OR Clevo pulls their head out of the sand and brings us another DTR. I'm fine with Intel or AMD 6000 series. -
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electrosoft replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
(Intel launches 11th gen) AMD: Hahahahaha! LOSERS! So desperate! Frankenchip! 🤣🤣🤣 (Intel launches 12th gen ) AMD: 😬😱 (AMD launches 5800X3D) /facepalm Hard pass for me....If I can't OC it I don't want it and the neutered clocks says it all. Plus having used the 5800x before it was hitting a hard wall at 4.7 all core for me and mine was golden @Rage Set 's 5800x was even more golden and hit a bit higher (4.8?) but I'd still like the chance to see where I could take it.