MyPC8MyBrain Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 6 hours ago, Mr. Fox said: Catalyst Control Center that brings up fond memories, loved ATI in its days, 12 minutes ago, Reciever said: thats more like it, NICE! 2 1 the impossible is not impossible, its just haven't been done yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reciever Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 6 minutes ago, MyPC8MyBrain said: that brings up found memories, loved ATI in its days, thats more like it, NICE! Im thinking the only way to get higher is shunt modding the cards, 10c ambient only brings me about 22c starting temperature, the air cooler cant keep things below 40c. The moment I hit 60c I lose 2100Mhz and 1.1v Might look into doing that with my 5700xt's first though, I have more of them and arent as much of a loss in terms of investment lol 1 2 1 Telegram / TS3 / Twitter 2700X to 5800X3D upgrade! With a 10850K cameo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyPC8MyBrain Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 you could stick the system on the edge of your window so its out in the open cold air 😊 i use a trick i call "secret sauce", i would stick (in my case) laptop i am testing in the freezer for few minutes then i start the bench remotely, if you could get your open bench to 10c before you start the test bench run im sure you could bench much higher without shunt modding (be advise M.2 hate cold temps especially close to 0), the impossible is not impossible, its just haven't been done yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clamibot Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 1 hour ago, ryan said: it has some wiggle room\ for example I found out the legion 5 with a 115w 3060 scores 9500 in timespy so its all possible just a matter of finding out the loop hole or just accept what ive done like you said..benchmarking is super addictive The quest for ever more performance is addictive in itself. I'm a performance enthusiast, but for games. So fortunately for brother @Mr. Fox, I'm not your typical gamerboy you have to complain about.🤣 My performance requirements are very high, 144 FPS in ALL games. As such, I usually end up needing high end hardware to get the job done. That's how I got into benching, but I bench only video games. I always find the conversations we all have very interesting reads. I enjoy tweaking my hardware to push it to its max so I can get the best performance possible. And it doesn't end there as I can employ software tweaks on certain games to increase performance further. Perhaps I should make a guide for increasing performance in games as much as possible by employing both hardware and software tweaks as I'm doing software experimentation on my games as well. 1 1 2 1 AlienyHackbook: Alienware M17X R5 | i7-4930MX | GTX 1060 | 32GB DDR3L Kingston HyperX @ 2133 MHz CL 12 | MacOS Sierra 10.12.5 | Windows 10 LTSC | Hackintoshes Rule! Desktop Killer: Clevo X170SM-G | i9-10900K | RTX 2080 Super | 32GB DDR4 Crucial Ballistix @ 3200 MHz CL 16 | Windows 10 LTSC | Slayer Of Desktops Sagattarius A: Custom Built Desktop | i9-10900K | RX 6950 XT | 32GB DDR4 G.Skill Ripjaws @ 4200 MHz CL 15 | Windows 10 LTSC | Ultimate Performance Desktop With Cryo Cooling! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 if you know tweaks to provide performance and not the sheeple kind share bro...you should feel sorry for me as iv'e wasted two days of my life locked up in denial prison 2 ZEUS-COMING SOON Omen 16 2021 Zenbook 14 oled Vivobook 15x oled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electrosoft Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 3 hours ago, Mr. Fox said: Probably so, but the shunt-modded 3060 Ti does not need anywhere near 1200W. I think it could replace the 1600W on the benching rig and 1200W would be ample for the 4090 and 13900K. It has native ATX 3.0 and PCI-e 5.0 support that is ideal for the 4090, but the PSU itself would be better suited to the Corsair 5000D Airflow chassis that the 3060 Ti is in. It will fit better and address the lack of room in the basement of the case with the new cable orientation. What I will probably do is temporarily install the 4090 in my work computer with the PSU permanently installed for the PSU review, then after the review, put the 3060 Ti back in the work computer and put the 4090 in my benching rig that has the 1600W PSU. I have tons of unused space in the gigantic Level 20 XT aquarium, so I do not need the space-saving feature of this new PSU design in that chassis. If that's what I do, I will order a Cablemods 12VHPWR cable to replace the three 6+2 power cables feeding the 3090 KPE. I really despise those stupid short pigtail adapters that come with 4090 GPUs. Those are so stinking idiotic. 3 hours ago, Etern4l said: It just takes up 2-3 times the case space, and what if you have more than one GPU - it's a mess. Agreed. I ordered a cablemod 4-1 EVGA PSU adapter that arrived last week. Just need to get in there and install it but everything is tidy and cinched up atm... 1 2 Electrosoft Prime: SP109 14900KS | Asrock Z790i Lightning | MSI Suprim X Liquid 4090 | AC LF II 420 | TG 2x16GB 8200 | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB | EVGA 1600w P2 | Phanteks Ethroo Pro | Alienware AW3225QF 32" OLED Heath: i9-12900k | EVGA CLC 280 | Asus Strix Z690 D4 | Asus Strix 3080 | 32GB DDR4 2x16GB B-Die 4000 | WD Black SN850 512GB | EVGA DG-77 | Samsung G7 32" 144hz 32" My for sale items on eBay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 in my post i forgot too add @electrosoft as a potential sponsored overclocker lol....sorry man...your knowledge with computers is endless like the others 1 ZEUS-COMING SOON Omen 16 2021 Zenbook 14 oled Vivobook 15x oled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reciever Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 36 minutes ago, MyPC8MyBrain said: you could stick the system on the edge of your window so its out in the open cold air 😊 i use a trick i call "secret sauce", i would stick (in my case) laptop i am testing in the freezer for few minutes then i start the bench remotely, if you could get your open bench to 10c before you start the test bench run im sure you could bench much higher without shunt modding (be advise M.2 hate cold temps especially close to 0), It's practically on the window with 4 window fans dumping cold air on it (and me lol) It would be better probably next year to do the benching in the garage with the door cracked open. That way it doesn't really matter to me :P 1 1 Telegram / TS3 / Twitter 2700X to 5800X3D upgrade! With a 10850K cameo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 why doesnt someone invent a air conditioner laptop cooling pad/unit...or does that exist 2 ZEUS-COMING SOON Omen 16 2021 Zenbook 14 oled Vivobook 15x oled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyPC8MyBrain Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 46 minutes ago, MyPC8MyBrain said: i would stick (in my case) laptop i am testing in the freezer for few minutes then i start the bench remotely @ryan ^^^ 1 1 the impossible is not impossible, its just haven't been done yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reciever Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 Did some research with the GTX 970, looks like it has modding potential for up to 280w-300w and 1.3v so it looks like its going to get a second run. All I did is crank it to the max as is. :) 2 Telegram / TS3 / Twitter 2700X to 5800X3D upgrade! With a 10850K cameo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 I love @Recievers @Mr. Foxand @Papusans benchmarks you guys keep em coming.. reciever maybe you can crack 23 000 1 ZEUS-COMING SOON Omen 16 2021 Zenbook 14 oled Vivobook 15x oled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenoroon Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 4 minutes ago, Reciever said: Did some research with the GTX 970, looks like it has modding potential for up to 280w-300w and 1.3v so it looks like its going to get a second run. All I did is crank it to the max as is. 🙂 This guy has done a lot with his 970, you can watch it evolve through time lol. He does a bunch of other stuff to GPUs, but his most prestigious one is his 970. Maybe you can do the same 😉 1 3 Clevo P870TM-G: Core i7 8700k @ 4.8ghz | Clevo RTX 2070 Super | 32gb HyperX DDR4 @ 3200mhz | 17" 1440p 120hz B173QTN01.0 Screen | 256gb Samsung 850 EVO | 500gb WD Blue SSD | Prema BIOS Alienware 17 R1: Core i7 4710mq @ 3.619ghz 741 CBR15 (834 CBR15 @ 4.213ghz) | Dell GTX 860m | 16gb HyperX DDR3L @ 2133mhz | 17" 3D 120hz LTN173HT02-T01 Screen | 256gb mSATA SSD Asus Zephyrus G14: Ryzen 7 4800hs @ 4.2ghz | GTX 1650 | 16gb DDR4 @ 3200mhz | 14" 120hz LM140LF1F01 Screen | 512gb NVME SSD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted February 3, 2023 Author Share Posted February 3, 2023 43 minutes ago, ryan said: why doesnt someone invent a air conditioner laptop cooling pad/unit...or does that exist I've done that for years. Long before JayzTwoCents had even heard of such a thing. Works great for desktops, too. I recorded this video and uploaded it to YouTube in 2012. 2 4 1 1 Wraith // Z790 Apex | 14900KS | 4090 Suprim X+Byksi Block | 48GB DDR5-8600 | Toughpower GF3 1650W | MO-RA3 360 | Hailea HC-500A || O11D XL EVO Banshee // X870E Carbon | 9950X | 4090 Gaming OC+Alphacool Block | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1200x SHIFT | XT45 1080 Nova || Antec C8 Spectre // Z790i Edge | 13900KS | 3090 Ti FTW3 | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1000e | EK Nucleus CR360 Direct Die || Prime A21 Half-Breed // Dell Precision 7720 | BGA CPU Filth+MXM Quadro P5000 | 4K Display | Sub-$500 Grade A Refurb | Nothing to Write Home About Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papusan Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 5 hours ago, ryan said: still experimenting with different drivers....perhaps one of you gentlemen could reccomend a timespy driver 🙂 You can start with release driver for your 3060. Newest doesn't alweays mean better. And work you upwards with NVCleanstall. Take only 5 min to install new drivers included your tweaks. No need to run DDU in-beween each driver install. Benching is lots of works bro ryan. And don't ask why I know😎 But check out the drivers used from the 20 best results from 3090@Time Spy and try them out (write them down on paper then check out eeveryone of them) https://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/geforce_rtx_3090/ Click the rankings on right side for prefered benchmark and you will get the 20 best results. 3 1 "The Killer" ASUS ROG Z790 Apex Encore | 14900KS | 4090 HOF + 20 other graphics cards | 32GB DDR5 | Be Quiet! Dark Power Pro 12 - 1500 Watt | Second PSU - Cooler Master V750 SFX Gold 750W (For total of 2250W Power) | Corsair Obsidian 1000D | Custom Cooling | Asus ROG Strix XG27AQ 27" Monitors | Papusan @ HWBOT | Team PremaMod @ HWBOT | Papusan @ YouTube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyPC8MyBrain Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 On 2/1/2023 at 6:34 PM, ryan said: I bought a N4100 spin 311 4gb 32gb chromebook can you confirm these specs for your Chromebook? Intel Celeron N4100 > Total Cores 4 Total Threads 4 Burst Frequency 2.40 GHz Processor Base Frequency 1.10 GHz Cache 4 MB Scenario Design Power (SDP) 4.8 W TDP 6 W Intel UHD Graphics 600 11.6”, HD (1366 x 768), IPS 32GB SSD 4GB LPDDR4 (look away @Mr. Fox) i cant find a model with 3060 built-in, is your 3060 in external enclosure? if so, its no wonder you keep getting the same results no matter the tweaks you apply, with these specs you are cpu bound. (im perplexed now how you got that score with that cpu ) 2 the impossible is not impossible, its just haven't been done yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 haha that made me laugh...no dude i have two laptops hp omen 16 0 something 000 10ca thats quite the tweaking a celeron n4120 getting 10k in timespy 1 ZEUS-COMING SOON Omen 16 2021 Zenbook 14 oled Vivobook 15x oled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyPC8MyBrain Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 18 minutes ago, ryan said: thats quite the tweaking a celeron n4120 getting 10k in timespy i was about to say cough it up ya tweak hogger 😄 what's the specs on that omen you are testing on? Edit: i think i found your specs, i7-12700H with 3060 (notebook) with that these are the top scores for the specs the impossible is not impossible, its just haven't been done yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 not sure on what the exact specs are but its from janurary 2022 rtx 3060 new record for stock clocks...not bad...little bit of tweaking this time...now time to overclock should easily break 9k maybe even 9100 ZEUS-COMING SOON Omen 16 2021 Zenbook 14 oled Vivobook 15x oled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 its a 100w 3060 i think those are 130w 1 ZEUS-COMING SOON Omen 16 2021 Zenbook 14 oled Vivobook 15x oled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyPC8MyBrain Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 are you seeing the full 100w used in HWiNFo while bench is running? my system has a 150w 3080Ti but i could only see max 120w used before i disabled the software driver in device manager, after that i got the full 150w during bench, the impossible is not impossible, its just haven't been done yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted February 3, 2023 Author Share Posted February 3, 2023 6 minutes ago, ryan said: its a 100w 3060 i think those are 130w Also running artificially cold it looks like, and a fairly hefty OC for 3060 notebook. Average temperature during the run at 46°C is going to boost higher than stock cooling. https://www.3dmark.com/spy/34499294 2 Wraith // Z790 Apex | 14900KS | 4090 Suprim X+Byksi Block | 48GB DDR5-8600 | Toughpower GF3 1650W | MO-RA3 360 | Hailea HC-500A || O11D XL EVO Banshee // X870E Carbon | 9950X | 4090 Gaming OC+Alphacool Block | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1200x SHIFT | XT45 1080 Nova || Antec C8 Spectre // Z790i Edge | 13900KS | 3090 Ti FTW3 | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1000e | EK Nucleus CR360 Direct Die || Prime A21 Half-Breed // Dell Precision 7720 | BGA CPU Filth+MXM Quadro P5000 | 4K Display | Sub-$500 Grade A Refurb | Nothing to Write Home About Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyPC8MyBrain Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 first score on the list i posted earlier shows first position (same link @Mr. Fox posted above) is held by a dell model, no way its the full 3060 130w sku! (if it was Asus or MSI yes its possible, with Dell never) the impossible is not impossible, its just haven't been done yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted February 3, 2023 Author Share Posted February 3, 2023 8 minutes ago, MyPC8MyBrain said: first score on the list i posted earlier shows first position (same link @Mr. Fox posted above) is held by a dell model, no way its the full 3060 130w sku! (if it was Asus or MSI yes its possible, with Dell never) Also look at the CPU clock, CPU temperature and CPU score on that run. Apples to oranges comparison. Everything is colder and clocked higher. 2 1 Wraith // Z790 Apex | 14900KS | 4090 Suprim X+Byksi Block | 48GB DDR5-8600 | Toughpower GF3 1650W | MO-RA3 360 | Hailea HC-500A || O11D XL EVO Banshee // X870E Carbon | 9950X | 4090 Gaming OC+Alphacool Block | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1200x SHIFT | XT45 1080 Nova || Antec C8 Spectre // Z790i Edge | 13900KS | 3090 Ti FTW3 | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1000e | EK Nucleus CR360 Direct Die || Prime A21 Half-Breed // Dell Precision 7720 | BGA CPU Filth+MXM Quadro P5000 | 4K Display | Sub-$500 Grade A Refurb | Nothing to Write Home About Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyPC8MyBrain Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 26 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said: Also look at the CPU clock i was just looking at it, 62c average cpu temps means he started close or below 32f/0c, in my east coast place it is freezing cold right now @ 32f, if i leave my laptop on my porch for the bench i should see similar average temps, but that is not really representative of real world ambient temps by a longshot, this way its just for nonpractical bragging rights, it would be much more informative if we could see starting, average, and final temps, 3 the impossible is not impossible, its just haven't been done yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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