*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[Mr. Fox]

@ryanis in Canada, so he should have ample cold air right now. 

Portable AC unit is the only good way to keep a laptop cold enough for benching. I learned that from Brother @johnksssa long time ago. You place the intake vents on the bottom of it (or remove the bottom cover) directly over the AC unit with high velocity freezing cold air being force-fed into the chassis and out the radiators. You can use it year 'round and keep your office cool in the summertime. Only recently did popular guys like JayzTwoCents start using it for desktops, but it works good for a desktop as well. Just make a duct to force the cold air through the radiators or CPU/GPU air coolers and you'll see results you never dreamed possible using ambient air or ambient water cooling.

[Clamibot]

57 minutes ago, MyPC8MyBrain said:

you can leave it for an hour it will be fine, 10 min will do nothing but bit of cold air condensation on the screen which will evaporate 30 seconds after you pull it out, I have done it numerous time for way longer then 15 min, you cannot actually freeze the insides there's still air motion and heat circulating it will take several hours to actually freeze the system or cause any damage, the system will likely turn itself off and will not turn back on until its self dry if you ever left it for hours in the freezer,

 

think about it people live in cold climates and it happens every day that they forget their laptop outside in freezing cold weather, manufactures are well aware and prepared,

 

i can also tell you that LM TIM doesn't like freezer temps, but regular paste does well in low temps,

 

I have a delidded CPU with a peltier AIO mounted on top. It seems to work pretty well.

 

Granted, I don't let the temperatures on the CPU go subzero, I just introduce a large temeprature differential to increase heat transfer and keep the CPU much cooler than it normally would be under conventional cooling methods. I've always found it strange that normal thermal paste does better than liquid metal at subzero temperatures, but I suppose that makes sense given that metal expands and contracts more than paste does.

 

Extreme cooling is awesome. The colder you go, the more performance you get!

[MyPC8MyBrain]

4 hours ago, Clamibot said:

I've always found it strange that normal thermal paste does better than liquid metal at subzero

its the viscosity of each TIM liquid vs paste that's critical in low temps,

 

 

4 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Portable AC unit is the only good way to keep a laptop cold enough for benching

AC or even Chiller on the loop for a desktop would be awesome boost solution,
for laptops this seems too cumbersome over placing it flat open or 45 degrees upside down in the freezer for benching proposes, AC can move air fast but its not cold enough for a good "cold buffer" for a short bench run, for long duration stress that would be awesome and way more practical then a freezer 😄 

[ryan]

lol you guys are funny and die hards// I will maybe repaste and call it a day im not flipping it upside down and on a air conditioner...with the AC I was thinking a compact laptop cooler/ac unit you never know it might exist in korea or japan

[electrosoft]

1 hour ago, Rage Set said:

We have lots of below zero weather for all of you...except @Papusan here in Connecticut. Right now 15F (-9.4C), but with the wind chill 3 degrees. It is going negative tonight and most of tomorrow. Perhaps it is a garage overclocking type of night. 

 

We're going to get hit with it tomorrow in NJ. It is already dropping outside (19f and falling)....

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, MyPC8MyBrain said:

AC or even Chiller on the loop for a desktop would be awesome boost solution,
for laptops this seems too cumbersome over placing it flat open or 45 degrees upside down in the freezer for benching proposes, AC can move air fast but its not cold enough for a good "cold buffer" for a short bench run, for long duration stress that would be awesome and way more practical then a freezer 😄 

You wouldn't say that if you have actually done it. The air coming out of the vents on a good AC unit can actually cause frost and ice formation on the inside of the laptop. It doesn't have time to mix with the warm air in a room with the bottom of the laptop sitting directly on top of the vents and it can be below freezing point. When I was still benching laptops with mobile Extreme CPUs and desktop CPUs in them it would transform a 100°C throttled piece of doggy poop into something special and keep it well below normal idle temperatures with the CPU under full load. As a bonus, it keeps everything else freezing cold, too. PCH, SSDs, CPU, GPU, VRMs... the whole shebang stays frosty. Using a freezer can also work, but you have to keep lots of air moving through the radiators to stay ahead of the curve. The portable AC unit can move far more air (CFM) than chintzy laptop fans.

[MyPC8MyBrain]

25 minutes ago, ryan said:

you guys are funny and die hards

better believe it 😉

to be fair the benches i posted on this thread i run on my desk with whatever the ambient temp was at the time,
i did not put my recent unit in the freezer or repsate nor LM TIM applied, i am on stock manufactures paste,

but... from my previous hands on with all the other 5 units I got before this one, and because of how this one performs so well without me going to any extent i know i can push it so much further if i wanted (no need at this point in time), but i did put the other units through the ringers some lived in my freezer for hours 😄 from all my hands on experience (some will call it abuse) i can deduce how good my current bin is, and to be fair i was also under manufactures 30 days warranty when i tested/abused all the other units 😉

 

btw i documented these various benches in each condition with scores here, 
whenever "secret magic sauce" is listed it means it was benched in the freezer.

[Raiderman]

Got a chance to play with the 6800xt a little....improved by 800+ points. Saw brother @Rage Setimpressive graphics score two or three spots above me @59K 🤘 Getting 600mhz OC on that water cooled beast.

 

 

[ryan]

41k jesus now why cant i get improvements like that lol.....dude what do you get in crysis maxed 1440p

 

 

mind you some people are getting 63k...i guess it really is a freezer and lottery

 

does someone want to create a benchmarking tweak thread...Ill be the tester if you want test all the diff tweaks see if we cant get some gains...surely some of these tweaks must do something even 1 point heck

 

also @MyPC8MyBrain its like you came out of nowhere. really helpful die hard....you remind me of mr fox but not quite lol...if you know a way of getting 200 points ill send you a brown note lol....seriously im that desperate...im choked

 

fill (a passage or space), especially so as to make movement difficult or impossible.

"the roads were choked with traffic"

[Raiderman]

23 minutes ago, ryan said:

41k jesus now why cant i get improvements like that lol.....dude what do you get in crysis maxed 1440p

 

 

mind you some people are getting 63k...i guess it really is a freezer and lottery

I can just about guarantee you could get improvements like this if you weren't constrained in a laptop, with mobile hardware. I bet that you are throttled because of heat. It is very difficult to make any gains benchmarking with hardware that is only meant to perform at a certain level before being bottlenecked/throttled.

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, ryan said:

lol you guys are funny and die hards// I will maybe repaste and call it a day im not flipping it upside down and on a air conditioner...with the AC I was thinking a compact laptop cooler/ac unit you never know it might exist in korea or japan

No need to turn it upside down. I never did. Just set it directly over the AC vents (assuming you have a unit with vents blowing air vertically instead of horizontally) and use it as you normally would. This will blast freezing cold air into the laptop at probably 10 times the velocity and 200 times the volume than the laptop fans can do maxed out. 

 

A 10,000 BTU can keep a 10x10 ft room colder than most people find comfortable. So, imagine how well it can cool less than one cubic liter of laptop.

[MyPC8MyBrain]

17 minutes ago, ryan said:

if you know a way of getting 200 points

pretty sure i can find a way to squeeze 200 points (possibly even more) if i had my hands on your system,
how many process you showing right now running in task manager?

 

 

[ryan]

apps 9 processes 88

 

I used oso shutapp

and eso optimizer...it closes alot

[MyPC8MyBrain]

not familiar with these apps but looks decent, personally i do everything manually,
did you turn off firewall and disabled defender completely including all notifications? 

 

disable defender and firewall

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re-enable defender and firewall

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disable all windows notifications

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expose all power plan options and go to town 😉 

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[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\Power\PowerSettings\e73a048d-bf27-4f12-9731-8b2076e8891f\5dbb7c9f-38e9-40d2-9749-4f8a0e9f640f]
"Attributes"=dword:00000002

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\Power\PowerSettings\e73a048d-bf27-4f12-9731-8b2076e8891f\637ea02f-bbcb-4015-8e2c-a1c7b9c0b546]
"Attributes"=dword:00000002

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\Power\PowerSettings\e73a048d-bf27-4f12-9731-8b2076e8891f\8183ba9a-e910-48da-8769-14ae6dc1170a]
"Attributes"=dword:00000002

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\Power\PowerSettings\e73a048d-bf27-4f12-9731-8b2076e8891f\9a66d8d7-4ff7-4ef9-b5a2-5a326ca2a469]
"Attributes"=dword:00000002

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\Power\PowerSettings\e73a048d-bf27-4f12-9731-8b2076e8891f\bcded951-187b-4d05-bccc-f7e51960c258]
"Attributes"=dword:00000002

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\Power\PowerSettings\e73a048d-bf27-4f12-9731-8b2076e8891f\d8742dcb-3e6a-4b3c-b3fe-374623cdcf06]
"Attributes"=dword:00000002

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\Power\PowerSettings\e73a048d-bf27-4f12-9731-8b2076e8891f\F3C5027D-CD16-4930-AA6B-90DB844A8F00]
"Attributes"=dword:00000002

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\Power\PowerSettings\f15576e8-98b7-4186-b944-eafa664402d9]
"Attributes"=dword:00000002

 

Enable S3 sleep in bios
open command prompt as admin paste below to restore classic power plans then run Ultimate power plan

:: (Power saver)
powercfg -duplicatescheme a1841308-3541-4fab-bc81-f71556f20b4a

::(High Performance)
powercfg -duplicatescheme 8c5e7fda-e8bf-4a96-9a85-a6e23a8c635c

::(Ultimate Performance)
powercfg -duplicatescheme e9a42b02-d5df-448d-aa00-03f14749eb61

 

disable  Modern Standby

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power]
"PlatformAoAcOverride"=dword:00000000
"CsEnabled"=dword:00000000

[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\ModernSleep]

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\ModernSleep]

 

re-enable  Modern Standby

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power]
"PlatformAoAcOverride"=-
"CsEnabled"=-

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\ModernSleep]
"EnabledActions"=dword:00000007

 

[ryan]

holy smokes i havent got the patience. a part of me wants 9500 a parts like whats the point.

 

i wont do reg tweaks. bad exeriences

[MyPC8MyBrain]

8 minutes ago, ryan said:

i wont do reg tweaks. bad exeriences

refresh i posted more, you asked for it there you go!
i posted both disable/enable for all important reg entries, you can also backup the top hives if you are concerned,

the long power unhide doesn't change anything just exposes/unhides the options in power plan advance settings for you to change manually from the power plan gui itself,

 

you have nothing to worry about these are all implemented on my system directly!
if you run into any issues ill be able to help you through any mess that will not happen 😉

[Mr. Fox]

3 minutes ago, ryan said:

holy smokes i havent got the patience. a part of me wants 9500 a parts like whats the point.

 

i wont do reg tweaks. bad exeriences

If you do the wrong reg tweaks that can happen. I don't think I could function without them. Some of those tweaks, and some you already have applied,  you can use software like what you're already doing, only using a GUI, but many are registry tweaks.

[Clamibot]

Well holy crap this thread has been incredibly active today! I'm liking this a lot as it's feeling like a real conversation!

 

To add some more to today's conversation, I went and bidded on a Samsung B-Die DDR4 RAM kit and actually won! This is the very first time I've ever won a bid, so I'm feeling proud of myself. Freaking bid snipers made me lose all other bids I've ever been a part of. It's super annoying when someone swoops in and takes the bid from you at the last second. I decided to not deal with that crap this time around and instead set up automated bidding for this listing.

 

I'm excited for this kit to come in and continue my RAM overclocking escapades. It was very daunting to start out with, but now I'm hooked.

 

TUNE EVERYTHING AND OVERCLOCK EVERYTHING FOR MAXIMUM PERFORMANCE MWAHAHAHAHA!

[MyPC8MyBrain]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

you can use software like what you're already doing, only using a GUI, but many are registry tweaks

right on,

 

@ryan these tweaks applied directly to the registry without the need to install third party apps to do the same and leave their leftovers behind, 

[ryan]

4 minutes ago, Clamibot said:

Well holy crap this thread has been incredibly active today! I'm liking this a lot as it's feeling like a real conversation!

 

To add some more to today's conversation, I went and bidded on a Samsung B-Die DDR4 RAM kit and actually won! This is the very first time I've ever won a bid, so I'm feeling proud of myself. Freaking bid snipers made me lose all other bids I've ever been a part of. It's super annoying when someone swoops in and takes the bid from you at the last second. I decided to not deal with that crap this time around and instead set up automated bidding for this listing.

 

I'm excited for this kit to come in and continue my RAM overclocking escapades. It was very daunting to start out with, but now I'm hooked.

 

TUNE EVERYTHING AND OVERCLOCK EVERYTHING FOR MAXIMUM PERFORMANCE MWAHAHAHAHA!

mewahahaha

 

get her done boi....ill apply the tweaks if you get a bid

 

@MyPC8MyBrain i have no idea how long that would take but i dont trust reg tweaks..unless they look good lol....sad face

[MyPC8MyBrain]

1 minute ago, ryan said:

ill apply the tweaks if you get a bid

he won the bid, now get... 😊

[MyPC8MyBrain]

14 minutes ago, ryan said:

i have no idea how long that would take

huh... it's as fast as it takes you to copy and paste these snippets to a .reg file save then right click to select import, if you don't like something you can undo with the re-enable reg i also included,

ooh and a quick reboot to make sure everything takes after you're done importing,

 

how you want to get into deep tunning and tweaking if you cant muster this little challenge? 😄

(get used to it yesterday and on your own free time 😛)

[KING19]

4 hours ago, ryan said:

i ran msi afterburner and monitored tgp it was a constant 115w

 

this is why i am frustrated

 

https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-3060-Mobile-GPU-Benchmarks-and-Specs.497453.0.html

 

scroll down to timespy and look at top scores .. a 115w 3060 scores 9500 stock

 

 

and to passerbys

 

the reason for all of this is so I can push my system to the llimits but more importantly get over 60fps in crysis remasted while running and shooting ect basically always above 60fps maxed with raytracing set to performance in 1080p....heres an example

 

 

screens dont show it but trust me its 63 in game running
 

 

 

You're pretty much at your limit for a 100w RTX 3060, Well 115w because of dynamic boost. The average score on Notebookcheck is the 130w version now 140w because OEMs released a VBIOS update to increase the wattage to 140w. Also i just noticed that Crysis Remastered has DLSS now and you have it turned off. You can achieve your goal if you turn DLSS on.

 

2 hours ago, Rage Set said:

We have lots of below zero weather for all of you...except @Papusan here in Connecticut. Right now 15F (-9.4C), but with the wind chill 3 degrees. It is going negative tonight and most of tomorrow. Perhaps it is a garage overclocking type of night. 

 

Yeah we're getting it too, Been out in it all day at work wearing 4 layers lol.

[ryan]

whats the fastest way to apply them...tut

[MyPC8MyBrain]

3 minutes ago, ryan said:

whats the fastest way to apply them

put "disable" and expose power plan and all other disable tweaks all in one .reg file and import then reboot, there is also one command prompt to issue as well to restore ultimate power plan, order doesn't matter,