*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[tps3443]

UPDATE:
 

13900KF Pre-Ordered!! 
 

So freaking excited! What a deal for $629 that was. Honestly, I wanted the standard K to be totally honest. But, I’ll take a KF. 
 

 

This is my first Intel CPU Pre-order. 

[jaybee83]

59 minutes ago, Talon said:

For sure it will be close. But keep in mind  AMD used 6000 CL30 DDR5 with EXPO timings for their Zen 4 gaming performance demo. 
 

Intel used 5600 CL28 for 13th Gen and 3200 CL14 for AMD Zen 3 and 3D. So Intel used their maximum “supported” memory while AMD used an overclock because they only officially support 5200. 
 

https://edc.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/performance/benchmarks/desktop/

 

 

As I’ve shown even my 12th Gen can push far higher memory clocks. 13th Gen and Z790 will only extend that lead. While AMD sweet spot is what they demoed with. 

 

good point! in that case we will need comparable configs asap to get a better judgement. also dont forget, "sweet spot" doesnt mean the absolute max it can reach. HUB already showed that 6400 is no problem whatsoever with Auto:1:1 settings.

 

21 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

UPDATE:
 

13900KF Pre-Ordered!! 
 

So freaking excited! What a deal for $629 that was. Honestly, I wanted the standard K to be totally honest. But, I’ll take a KF. 
 

 

This is my first Intel CPU Pre-order. 

 

dude im glad u got this figured out! i know how stressful it is to be purchasing such costly hardware and then hitting a bump 😅 awesome pricing for sure!

 

BTW guys, ure welcome to visit my Build Log thread: 

 

also included a poll for y'all 😄 note that its still a work in progress, but wanted to post it before i continue. enjoy!

[electrosoft]

So we have @tps3443 going 13900kf....

@jaybee83 going 7950x and either 4090 or 7900...

 

And I'm sure @Talon will be getting a 13900k and a 4090....

 

I'll completely be enjoying living vicariously through y'all for Q4/Q1 🙂

 

 

[Reciever]

2 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

So we have @tps3443 going 13900kf....

@jaybee83 going 7950x and either 4090 or 7900...

 

And I'm sure @Talon will be getting a 13900k and a 4090....

 

I'll completely be enjoying living vicariously through y'all for Q4/Q1 🙂

 

 

I got the seat right next to ya in that theatre for the coming entertainment :D 

[Talon]

9 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

So we have @tps3443 going 13900kf....

@jaybee83 going 7950x and either 4090 or 7900...

 

And I'm sure @Talon will be getting a 13900k and a 4090....

 

I'll completely be enjoying living vicariously through y'all for Q4/Q1 🙂

 

 

13900K has been ordered from the Egg. I may also grab one from Microcenter on launch day to bin against. 
 

4090 is likely. 

[Mr. Fox]

2 hours ago, tps3443 said:

UPDATE:
 

13900KF Pre-Ordered!! 
 

So freaking excited! What a deal for $629 that was. Honestly, I wanted the standard K to be totally honest. But, I’ll take a KF. 
 

 

This is my first Intel CPU Pre-order. 

 

1 hour ago, electrosoft said:

So we have @tps3443 going 13900kf....

@jaybee83 going 7950x and either 4090 or 7900...

 

And I'm sure @Talon will be getting a 13900k and a 4090....

 

I'll completely be enjoying living vicariously through y'all for Q4/Q1 🙂

 

 

 

58 minutes ago, Talon said:

13900K has been ordered from the Egg. I may also grab one from Microcenter on launch day to bin against. 
 

4090 is likely. 

I preordered from NewEgg as well... 13900K not KF. And, I got an email saying the product is delayed but my pre-order will remain in effect unless I choose to cancel it.

 

4090 is extremely unlikely. 4090 Ti is also extremely unlikely. An AMD GPU even far less likely. I don't really see much point in a GPU upgrade right now. Too much money for meaningless points on HWBOT. For now it remains to be seen. It will depend on my ability to exercise common sense and self-control. It may turn out that I demonstrate foolishness and stupidity once again.

[Talon]

Just now, Mr. Fox said:

And, I got an email saying the product is delayed but my pre-order will remain in effect unless I choose to cancel it.

 

I got the same email, I also got this email at launch of 12900K and Z690 boards and all arrived on launch.  I would not worry about it. 

[tps3443]

1 hour ago, Talon said:

13900K has been ordered from the Egg. I may also grab one from Microcenter on launch day to bin against. 
 

4090 is likely. 

It is really fun testing new CPU’s, while everyone else is also testing theirs too at the same time. I probably won’t get a 4090 until Q2 2023. This is much more exciting then iPhone launches I know that. 

[tps3443]

2 minutes ago, Talon said:

 

I got the same email, I also got this email at launch of 12900K and Z690 boards and all arrived on launch.  I would not worry about it. 

I ordered from Newegg as well, only the 13900KF model. I haven’t received one of these emails yet. 
 

How many hours after your order did you get the 2nd Newegg email? 

 

[jaybee83]

48 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

 

 

I preordered from NewEgg as well... 13900K not KF. And, I got an email saying the product is delayed but my pre-order will remain in effect unless I choose to cancel it.

 

4090 is extremely unlikely. 4090 Ti is also extremely unlikely. An AMD GPU even far less likely. I don't really see much point in a GPU upgrade right now. Too much money for meaningless points on HWBOT. For now it remains to be seen. It will depend on my ability to exercise common sense and self-control. It may turn out that I demonstrate foolishness and stupidity once again.

my man, ure always welcome to join and destroy our scores in the foolishness / no self-control camp anytime, hope u know that 😄

[Mr. Fox]

Here is this... 

 

https://extremehw.net/all-reviews/sabrent-rocket-ddr5-16gb-u-dimm-review/

[jaybee83]

13 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

Here is this... 

 

https://extremehw.net/all-reviews/sabrent-rocket-ddr5-16gb-u-dimm-review/

nice write up! and i definitely learned from your posts regarding active cooling on ddr5, planning to add an extra fan just for the memory modules 🙂

[Talon]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BC8NHWJZ?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

 

I picked up two of these a couple week ago in my quest for cheap A-Die. They're 5600 no XMP at 1.1v which lead me to believe A-Die. But nope. M-Die, but they clocked to 7000 CL32 easy. Cheap too.

[Mr. Fox]

30 minutes ago, jaybee83 said:

nice write up! and i definitely learned from your posts regarding active cooling on ddr5, planning to add an extra fan just for the memory modules 🙂

Thank you. Makes me happy to know that information that I share gets put to good use with the people I care about.

[tps3443]

@Reciever
 

How do you like a post or react to a post when using a phone to read these forums? I don’t see an option. Is that only available on a desktop? 
 

This is what a post looks like on my iPhone. But I just can’t figure it out for some reason. 
 

 

 

[electrosoft]

17 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

 

 

I preordered from NewEgg as well... 13900K not KF. And, I got an email saying the product is delayed but my pre-order will remain in effect unless I choose to cancel it.

 

4090 is extremely unlikely. 4090 Ti is also extremely unlikely. An AMD GPU even far less likely. I don't really see much point in a GPU upgrade right now. Too much money for meaningless points on HWBOT. For now it remains to be seen. It will depend on my ability to exercise common sense and self-control. It may turn out that I demonstrate foolishness and stupidity once again.

 

 

 

Lol, I feel you on this in spades brother..... 🤣

 

[Reciever]

8 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

@Reciever
 

How do you like a post or react to a post when using a phone to read these forums? I don’t see an option. Is that only available on a desktop? 
 

This is what a post looks like on my iPhone. But I just can’t figure it out for some reason. 
 

 

 

I'm currently asking Invision community for a fix, not off to a great start though. 

 

It's in the same row as the quote button but on the right corner. That or you can enable dark mode which is an option on the bottom of every page of the forum :) 

[Clamibot]

7 minutes ago, Reciever said:

I'm currently asking Invision community for a fix, not off to a great start though. 

 

It's in the same row as the quote button but on the right corner. That or you can enable dark mode which is an option on the bottom of every page of the forum 🙂

 

Thank you very much for this. I didn't know dark mode was even an option. I immediately enabled it after I saw you mention where it was.

 

Dark mode for life baby!

[tps3443]

49 minutes ago, Reciever said:

I'm currently asking Invision community for a fix, not off to a great start though. 

 

It's in the same row as the quote button but on the right corner. That or you can enable dark mode which is an option on the bottom of every page of the forum 🙂

 

I just found it. Lol. I clicked on absolutely nothing and it popped up. Thanks!

[aldarxt]

Ye Old Benchmark Thread, Post it Here, So I am having a problem only on my m17xr4 3DMark compare results online I get this https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/80053025

results are hidden!!! I have used every version I could find, last 1 installed Futuremark 3DMark for Windows v2.22.7359 from techpowerup.com. This only happens on the m17xr4 and not any other PC. I like keeping bookmarks in my browser of my scores but on the m17xr4 I need to take screenshots. I even tried different browsers as default but get same results. I have never seen anyone with this problem.

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, aldarxt said:

Ye Old Benchmark Thread, Post it Here, So I am having a problem only on my m17xr4 3DMark compare results online I get this https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/80053025

results are hidden!!! I have used every version I could find, last 1 installed Futuremark 3DMark for Windows v2.22.7359 from techpowerup.com. This only happens on the m17xr4 and not any other PC. I like keeping bookmarks in my browser of my scores but on the m17xr4 I need to take screenshots. I even tried different browsers as default but get same results. I have never seen anyone with this problem.

It is in the benchmark settings/options page and is a local machine setting. Turn off the option to automatically hide results. If you sign in at 3DMark.com your submissions should be stored under the My Results page. You can see all or filter by benchmark.

 

If you go to a benchmark result online you will see buttons to hide/unhide and delete if you submitted it associated with your account rather than anonymously.

[Vasudev]

On 9/22/2022 at 12:04 AM, Ashtrix said:

After analyzing more of Nvidia's Ada debut.

 

I found some interesting observations and mega BS. Lets first see the 4080 12GB AD104 first and RTX3090Ti and then DLSS3.0 plus rest.

 

 

 

See the graph and the games. RE8 is having lower Raster performance on 4070, lets call what it is. And the new 4080 is just a bit faster. That game is RE Engine not even that heavy on GPU to be honest. AC Valhalla is also un-optimized rubble with PentaDRM but GPU heavy and CPU heavy too. Same thing repeat. I do not honestly know much about WH40K it has too much shift so I'm going to ignore it. MSFS ? That is very weird since the performance scaling is blown out totally here.

 

So they got to be mixing DLSS and Raster in this graphs for the first block too. Second Block set Portal RTX and Racer RTX, Cybermeme 2077 (ultra unoptimized overrated nonsense) all are using new RT Overdrive and if you see their own video which I will link below, the perf is crawling at 21FPS. And suddenly DLSS3.0 it goes 80% higher to 100FPS. So yeah that's how they got 4X.

 

Now that's out of the way. Let's talk DLSS3.0

 

Nvidia is saying OFA is exclusive to Ada Lovelace, and so DLSS3.0's new AI Frame Interpolation works only on Ada rest of RTX GPUs - Turing and Ampere will work on base DLSS3.0 which is 2.x with maybe some improvements. But looking at their own graph which they posted the OFA exists in Ampere it's in their own graph here see below but yeah it's only for Ada lol. But also they are adding frames !! Fake Frames to the game, totally fake AI generated interpolation. Which is why they can get such massive FPS numbers and claim reduced CPU load. It's not even real lol no wonder there's no CPU load as GPU is directly injecting it's fake data, so it adds a latency hit, to overcome that, added Nvidia Reflex to the DLSS3.x now standard because reducing the damn latency. Also funny part is if FPS is low even with DLSS then the latency will be higher and moreover

 

 

See that OFA (Optical Flow Accelerator) ? It's right there guys !! 128OFA Ampere vs 300OFA Ada LYING through Teeth.

 

Now the game suite, where is DOOM Eternal ? Where's METRO Exodus, this is the real title for RT performance because that game exclusively has RT ONLY build called Enhanced Edition which had mandatory requirement of RTX2060 with RT cores due to RTGI replacing all in game lights with RT. It uses older DLSS but ofc the game is done long back and Devs will not update the DLSS2.x did not get updated, but still could be used to show the performance boost of so called "Ray Tracing" "DLSS" lol. Esp DLSS2.x on the new Ada vs Ampere, nope we do not get anything. I bet the reviewers will also won't show it since it's all DLSS3.x garbage marketing.

 

Next is where is Red Dead Redemption 2 the King of the Raster and Photorealism and not only that the insane level of gameplay and Technology it has. Plus It has latest FSR2.0 (2.1 version fixes even more for FREE on all GPUs) update and DLSS2.x (essentially FSR2.0 totally knocks out Nvidia's proprietary garbage to ashes). But yeah no Raster performance nor DLSS performance showcase, since it's all DLSS3.x selected titles and old games won't get support anytime soon or be abandoned totally. Along with Ampere.

 

Man to be honest, I have really decided to not own this shamware company products they are really awful. Fake Frames, Gated DLSS (Even if it's fake Frames), insane rip off with silicon tiers. Remember 3090Ti is MSRP INR 81,693 now, how can anyone compare the defunct old 3090 price of INR 122,539 ??? This 4090 should be at INR 98,032 tops but now they are normalizing this garbage pricing.

 

Pricing and Others

Write it down there will be RTX4090 Ti which is going to come no matter what because that's what full AD102 die is at INR 163,386 and RTX4080 Ti again AD103 full die as well will slot in between at INR 106,201-INR 114,370. And RTX5090 will increase even more at INR 163,386 debut. Maybe they will add Display Port 2.0 then since this first batch of Ada cards are not having DP2.0 so much so for MUH 8K Ray Tracing, lol when Chroma Subsampling at 4K 144Hz itself is castrated also dual 4K 144Hz ? Nope it will slash the bitrate by having low data rate on DP1.4a Trash.  Bonus is PCIe4.0 only yes it doesn't really damn matter but you are paying top dollar here. The mobos have PCIe5.0 SSDs (even if they are useless to me, no storage space increase only speed which is worthless), and PCIe5.0x16 and x8 slots, but nowhere to use it all. Write SLI / NVLink also dead, they removed it, so anyone using that CUDA for ML say goodbye to your workloads with NVLink SLI and buy more certified CUDA through RTX A series (rofl they killed Quadro brand).

 

Thanks Nvidia, the way the customers are meant to be played.

 

I just hope AMD kicks this new DLSS3.x to the curb in some way by optimizing FSR like how they did to DLSS2.x which is now defunct lmao while FSR2.0 gets added by mods and even Emulators, fingers crossed but in Duopoly you cannot really expect much to be on the consumer side.

 

That pricing is not affordable and huge monster trucks won't fit in mini-case or eGPU enclosure. There is an alternative from Intel called XeSS but unsure if it will pave the way for FSR and merged with DX and other graphics APIs.

I think SLI on 4090 or Ti version would be monsterous unless nvidia felt it didn't scale well and creating SLI profiles will be a pain.

[aldarxt]

55 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

It is in the benchmark settings/options page and is a local machine setting. Turn off the option to automatically hide results. If you sign in at 3DMark.com your submissions should be stored under the My Results page. You can see all or filter by benchmark.

 

If you go to a benchmark result online you will see buttons to hide/unhide and delete if you submitted it associated with your account rather than anonymously.

Hooray!!! it worked, I Officially have a 3DMark account after all these years!! Thanks @Mr. Fox

[aldarxt]

32 minutes ago, aldarxt said:

Hooray!!! it worked, I Officially have a 3DMark account after all these years!! Thanks @Mr. Fox

Now I get this https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/80062423

[electrosoft]

19 hours ago, Talon said:

13900K has been ordered from the Egg. I may also grab one from Microcenter on launch day to bin against. 
 

4090 is likely. 

 

Back to living vicariously through you bro! 🙂