All about Windows 11 news and announcements

[Hertzian56]

Most people I know that are normal users, which were not going to buy new equipment, just signed up way back when because 10 was "free" even though they do nothing that 7/8 wouldn't keep working fine with to this day.

 

The current steam survey for gamers who speak english or chinese has 74% win10, 16% win11, 4% win7.

 

The M$ gambit with minimum supported equipment is so crass and telling. Perhaps a strategy to depress the massive used market which is not a guaranteed profit center for M$ and it's buddies.  Things are lasting too long for the monopolists liking so they try all sorts of strong arming to force new sales, true pretty much everywhere now. 

 

https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey-Welcome-to-Steam

 

 

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

2 hours ago, KING19 said:

 

That's interesting. Last i checked the marketshare for Windows 11 was at 8% and Windows 7 still has around 12% and Windows 10 at near 75%.

 

https://gs.statcounter.com/os-version-market-share/windows/desktop/worldwide

 

1% is very low for an OS that been out for almost 6 months so im kinda skeptical about that

 

 

I think your numbers are more accurate from a global view. The survey in the article I linked was a more limited sample, but the underlying message is similar... Windows 11 sucks and it is not being embraced. So, it's a good message regardless of whose numbers we are looking at. It's only a bad message if you are Micro$lop fanboy or a Kool-Aid drinker. I consider it a good thing to be glad whenever lousy products fail, because I don't want the companies that produce garbage to prosper.

[Mr. Fox]

2 hours ago, Papusan said:

Microsoft's insistence on signing in with an account will most likely drive away people with little or no internet connection — a consequence that shows Microsoft isn't interested in catering to everyone anymore.

They only want the sheeple for customers. They are smart enough to recognize that the sheeple are their target audience. Shooting fish in a barrel isn't fishing, but you can harvest a lot more fish without any skill being required for success.

 

Likewise, being bad doesn't mean that you're not smart. For example, I think it is pretty apparent that Satan is smart, he just uses what he knows for nefarious purposes.

[Mr. Fox]

Nice... something special on Github for Winduhz 11 fanbois.

 

 

[aldarxt]

16 hours ago, Papusan said:

Some problems is on both OS's but minor changes in the kernel for Win 11 open up a new door for more bugs/flaws.

 

Windows 11 Updates Are Spitting Out Error Code 0xc1900101 Leaving Some Users Baffled Mon, Apr 18, 2022

 

 

Yep, next move from Windows developers will be deleting legacy compatibility from the latest and greatest OS. Same also. Expect they will remove more and optional registry keys (no more hacks) so you won't be able to change the OS (UI) for your likings or if you want the older Windows looks/style. See the beauty bro @Ashtrix @Mr. Fox

 

Windows 11 taskbar downgrade and 3 other ways Microsoft is making its ubiquitous OS worse

 

Microsoft's insistence on signing in with an account will most likely drive away people with little or no internet connection — a consequence that shows Microsoft isn't interested in catering to everyone anymore. Will legacy compatibility be the next victim of progress? 

 

They want you all jumo on their new lap-jokes....

Surface Laptop Studio gets Voice Clarity and touchpad improvements

 

Gamers’ worst nightmares come true! Xbox is adding ads to free-to-play games

 

 

ADVERTISING IN XBOX GAMESMicrosoft is building ad placement program

Microsoft wants to give developers the opportunity to sell advertising space in free-to-play games.

 

 

 

Where you say "Windows developers will be deleting legacy compatibility from the latest and greatest OS. Same also. Expect they will remove more and optional registry keys " Is this for win 11 or also win 10? The first thing I do on a new install is go to regedit  , gpedit, secpo and services to customize my experience, in fact I keep them pinned to start menu because it is a consistent practice to make windows  user friendly to me

This WILL cause me to go to Linux ( even though I am not too happy with that either)

[Papusan]

3 hours ago, aldarxt said:

Where you say "Windows developers will be deleting legacy compatibility from the latest and greatest OS. Same also. Expect they will remove more and optional registry keys " Is this for win 11 or also win 10? The first thing I do on a new install is go to regedit  , gpedit, secpo and services to customize my experience, in fact I keep them pinned to start menu because it is a consistent practice to make windows  user friendly to me

This WILL cause me to go to Linux ( even though I am not too happy with that either)

They could also remove reg keys in Win 10 to delete functionality/features/change UI. But I doub't they will do it to make the older Win 10 looks more equal as Win 11. Most changes will come to Win 11 (remember it's their new baby). And we have Win 10 2021 LTSC (same as Win 10 version 21H2 today) and they can't change that OS version as they want.   

[Mr. Fox]

3 hours ago, Papusan said:

They could also remove reg keys in Win 10 to delete functionality/features/change UI. But I doub't they will do it to make the older Win 10 looks more equal as Win 11. Most changes will come to Win 11 (remember it's their new baby). And we have Win 10 2021 LTSC (same as Win 10 version 21H2 today) and they can't change that OS version as they want.   

An interesting and conceptually similar issue noted over here... https://forums.extremehw.net/topic/2003-dells-new-laptop-features-proprietary-ddr5-module-wont-take-generic-ram/#comment-24960

 

[Papusan]

8 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

An interesting and conceptually similar issue noted over here... https://forums.extremehw.net/topic/2003-dells-new-laptop-features-proprietary-ddr5-module-wont-take-generic-ram/#comment-24960

 

I wrote about this in the forum here a few days ago. Of course it had to be Dell. Who else?

 

 

[Aaron44126]

On 4/20/2022 at 3:33 PM, Mr. Fox said:

An interesting and conceptually similar issue noted over here... https://forums.extremehw.net/topic/2003-dells-new-laptop-features-proprietary-ddr5-module-wont-take-generic-ram/#comment-24960

 

 

On 4/20/2022 at 3:46 PM, Papusan said:

I wrote about this in the forum here a few days ago. Of course it had to be Dell. Who else?

 

This has been misrepresented a bit in the press.  Dell introduced a new CAMM module, but they are supporting SODIMM modules on these systems as well (with an adapter).  Dell is providing an interposer that allows two SODIMM modules to be connected to the CAMM slot on the motherboard.  (Their price list shows the equivalent SODIMM option to be cheaper than CAMM, to boot.)  None of the news articles seem to be catching onto this, even though it was clear in the original leaked material.  They are all claiming that Dell is forcing this standard with no alternative.

 

CAMM does allow memory to be packed more densely so if you want 128GB of RAM in your laptop (which would require four SODIMMs), you have to use a CAMM module.

 

Not necessarily trying to defend Dell here.  Just setting facts straight.  This has been discussed in-depth over in the Precision 7X70 pre-release thread (before it even started showing up on tech news sites).

 

[Edit]

(One week later)

Good article on the subject.

https://www.pcworld.com/article/693366/dell-defends-its-controversial-new-laptop-memory.html

[Mr. Fox]

24 minutes ago, Aaron44126 said:

 

 

This has been misrepresented a bit in the press.  Dell introduced a new CAMM module, but they are supporting SODIMM modules on these systems as well (with an adapter).  Dell is providing an interposer that allows two SODIMM modules to be connected to the CAMM slot on the motherboard.  (Their price list shows the equivalent SODIMM option to be cheaper than CAMM, to boot.)  None of the news articles seem to be catching onto this, even though it was clear in the original leaked material.  They are all claiming that Dell is forcing this standard with no alternative.

 

CAMM does allow memory to be packed more densely so if you want 128GB of RAM in your laptop (which would require four SODIMMs), you have to use a CAMM module.

 

Not necessarily trying to defend Dell here.  Just setting facts straight.  This has been discussed in-depth over in the Precision 7X70 pre-release thread (before it even started showing up on tech news sites).

I haven't looked at it and probably won't bother because I truly don't care what they do. But, the idea on face value raises the question of intelligent design and logic in developing an added layer of proprietary garbage. If adding a CAMM module takes space, and the only place anyone can buy a CAMM module is from Dell, and Dell doesn't make them readily accessible and inexpensive to purchase, it still leads back to questionable business practice and ulterior motives.

[Papusan]

3 hours ago, Aaron44126 said:

 

 

This has been misrepresented a bit in the press.  Dell introduced a new CAMM module, but they are supporting SODIMM modules on these systems as well (with an adapter).  Dell is providing an interposer that allows two SODIMM modules to be connected to the CAMM slot on the motherboard.  (Their price list shows the equivalent SODIMM option to be cheaper than CAMM, to boot.)  None of the news articles seem to be catching onto this, even though it was clear in the original leaked material.  They are all claiming that Dell is forcing this standard with no alternative.

 

CAMM does allow memory to be packed more densely so if you want 128GB of RAM in your laptop (which would require four SODIMMs), you have to use a CAMM module.

 

Not necessarily trying to defend Dell here.  Just setting facts straight.  This has been discussed in-depth over in the Precision 7X70 pre-release thread (before it even started showing up on tech news sites).

Yep, for this gen laptops. Dell don't spend a bunch of money engineering custom/proprietary form factors if this isn't for the future for all their computers/laptops. A hybrid solution as for today's new model won't be the final outcome for this disater of engineering solution. 

 

None should expect that Dell will continue with So-dimm slots for next gen laptops. A fantastic idea only Dell can manage to make laptops even thinner outside Apple. The Bellsheep... Aka always the trendsetter. Thinner laptops = Less space for cooling. Expect this also will come for the Alienware's for even thinner gamingbooks. Imagine an Alienware x17 only 12mm thick🙃 I'm sure many gamer-boys will start drool only by the thought. And Dell will deliver as always. A master in proprietary design know their audience 🙂 In same way as Microsoft, who deliver/offer what they think their customers want. As etc the new tablet OS (Win 11 the resurrection from the scrapped dual screen OS Win 10x). 

[Vasudev]

On 4/20/2022 at 9:51 AM, Mr. Fox said:

Nice... something special on Github for Winduhz 11 fanbois.

 

 

So, Win 11 sandboxed app virtualisation and protection never protected or worked on Win 11 users?

Chris Titus's Linux videos are good too.

[Mr. Fox]

On 4/21/2022 at 5:54 AM, Vasudev said:

So, Win 11 sandboxed app virtualisation and protection never protected or worked on Win 11 users?

Chris Titus's Linux videos are good too.

I'm not really sure if it does or not. I can't really comment. I typically do not use any Windows UWP app thrash except in circumstances where the avoidance of them becomes impossible. Even then my use is generally limited to native/core filth like Settings and the DCH feces NVIDIA Control Panel. I will not even use those when another option is available, like legacy Control Panel, gpedit, regedit or NVIDIA Profile Inspector. UWP filth is always a last resort option for me.

[Vasudev]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

I'm not really sure if it does or not. I can't really comment. I typically do not use any Windows UWP app thrash except in circumstances where the avoidance of them becomes impossible. Even then my use is generally limited to native/core filth like Settings and the DHC feces NVIDIA Control Panel. I will not even use those when another option is available, like gpedit, regedit or NVIDIA Profile Inspector.

The virtualisation should apply system wide and not only UWP apps. I still hate Nvidia DCH because it is same as standard ones with just name change. I tried nvidia latest driver i.e standard driver 472.12 and image quality on old games were garbage. Dishonored 1 looked like it was underwater and texture were a mess. Downgraded to MSFT one 419.72. Initially I thought it was their nvidia spatial up-sampler but it doesn't work on 980M.

[Vasudev]

@Aaron44126Dell's intention are bad with another proprietary garbage that'll be thrown in trash after few months just like their custom GPU upgrades for A51M.

Non-standard parts aren't readily available and usually horribly priced. It will be another failure and hopefully their project aurora (aka Sustainable Laptop design) can be shelved as well.

[Papusan]

Hands on: Windows 11’s new feature promises a cleaner taskbar at cost of functionality windowslatest.com

Microsoft is experimenting with a new minimalist taskbar for Windows 11 with an improved UI for the overflow menu and new system tray controls that would cater to those who prefer a clean taskbar, but at the same time, another taskbar feature has also gone missing for absolutely no good reason.

 

The future from Microsoft is OS intended for Jokebooks/tablets and small 2 in 1 craptops. Desktops is dead in Microsofts eyes. 

 

[Papusan]

Watch out for these issues in Windows 11 KB5012592 & Windows 10 KB5012599

 

Unfortunately, things aren’t going smoothly for everyone, particularly those who are on Windows 11.

https://notebooktalk.net/topic/265-all-about-windows-10-ltsc-included-news-and-announcements/?do=findComment&comment=5946&_rid=79

[KING19]

On 4/19/2022 at 6:45 PM, Mr. Fox said:

I think your numbers are more accurate from a global view. The survey in the article I linked was a more limited sample, but the underlying message is similar... Windows 11 sucks and it is not being embraced. So, it's a good message regardless of whose numbers we are looking at. It's only a bad message if you are Micro$lop fanboy or a Kool-Aid drinker. I consider it a good thing to be glad whenever lousy products fail, because I don't want the companies that produce garbage to prosper.

 

Yea its a good thing. 8% is still pretty low for a new OS after almost 6 months. Its no surprise because there are barely any changes from Windows 10. I heard some new laptops that came with Windows 11 preinstalled are having software issues out of the box, It happened to a friend of mine and i helped him to install Windows 10 on it and now he no longer having issues.

[electrosoft]

On 4/20/2022 at 3:33 PM, Mr. Fox said:

An interesting and conceptually similar issue noted over here... https://forums.extremehw.net/topic/2003-dells-new-laptop-features-proprietary-ddr5-module-wont-take-generic-ram/#comment-24960

 

 

Seeing as how they created their own, proprietary GPUs and have soldered on key components down to the wifi, this is not shocking at all.

 

On 4/21/2022 at 10:48 PM, Papusan said:

Hands on: Windows 11’s new feature promises a cleaner taskbar at cost of functionality windowslatest.com

Microsoft is experimenting with a new minimalist taskbar for Windows 11 with an improved UI for the overflow menu and new system tray controls that would cater to those who prefer a clean taskbar, but at the same time, another taskbar feature has also gone missing for absolutely no good reason.

 

The future from Microsoft is OS intended for Jokebooks/tablets and small 2 in 1 craptops. Desktops is dead in Microsofts eyes. 

 

 

How hard is it to leave a Win10 Taskbar mode option? I greatly despise the new Taskbar.

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

39 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

Seeing as how they created their own, proprietary GPUs and have soldered on key components down to the wifi, this is not shocking at all.

 

How hard is it to leave a Win10 Taskbar mode option? I greatly despise the new Taskbar.

Yes, it's not shocking at all about Dell. The only thing I ever find shocking about them any more is when they do something right. That totally catches me off guard because it is so out of character for them. 

 

I can honestly say the same thing about the Redmond Retards. The chance that anything they do will be pleasing or acceptable to me is too low to measure. The taskbar change that you hate is widely despised and the fact that they implemented it with no way to toggle it back to "the right way" is prima facie evidence of what absolute dumbasses they are and why they have earned so many derogatory nicknames that some of us have come to enjoy using in place of their brand name. They've earned every ounce of hate coming their way, and it won't' stop because, like Ron White says, "Can't fix stupid."

 

Short of a miracle, there is no opportunity for redemption for either of them at this point.

 

I am not saying people that like the ugliness are stupid. I could, but that would be a bit too harsh... eye of the beholder and what-not. What is stupid is implementing the massive aesthetic change and not giving the end user the option to stick with what they want. If they had possessed only 50% of ordinary intelligence they would have known that doing anything like that is an extremely stupid business move. It's proof that they're not only as dumb as a box of rocks, they don't care what anyone with a different opinion thinks about them or their products. Businesses like that deserve to go under. They are unworthy of finding  acceptance and financial success.

 

If you don't want mustard and pickles on your burger, you should expect them to be left off when you sit down to take the first bite.

[Aaron44126]

Hee hee.

https://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-spotted-using-unsupported-cpu-during-its-windows-11-insider-webcast-program/

[Reciever]

Woops. 

[Papusan]

Maybe the majority of Windows users nowadays only have fancy thin tablets, touchbooks and small wimpy 2 in 1 Jokebooks? At least it looks like this when wee see what Microsoft make own decisions from. Why bother with the minority of people that still prefer old fashion desktops and desktop replacements? 

 

Microsoft says Windows 11 Start menu is built around feedback, users disagree

windowslatest.com- April 29, 2022

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Windows 11 is out for a while now and it has received mixed reviews, with the operating system getting a bad rap from a lot of people. So why people are upset?

 

Tone-deaf: Microsoft reminds people of the great job it did of building Start in Windows 11 neowin.com

 

[Mr. Fox]

Another lie from the Redmond Retards exposed. First it was DX12 isn't "compatible" with W7. Then it was SpeedShift. Then it was Resizable Bar support, and now the Alder Lake scheduler. When will these morons produce something worth of installing on its own merits and knock it off with the lies that make the gamerkidz think they are going to miss out on something special if they don't drink the Kool-Aid? Answer: Never. (They are compulsive liars.)

 

Anyhoo... myth busted. https://notebooktalk.net/topic/109-official-benchmark-thread-post-it-here-or-it-didnt-happen-d/?do=findComment&comment=6420&_rid=87

 

 

[saturnotaku]

In Windows 10, there was a switch to disable telemetry via the group policy editor that worked if you had Enterprise installed. I'm not seeing it in Windows 11 Enterprise. Did they change the name or get rid of it all together so that you need to still use O&O Shutup10 and WindowsPrivacyDashboard?