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I would have been happy if they used a design similar to the 7760 but with side vents and additional heatpipes so it could utilize a 330W brick with 157W+ CPU TDP, 175W GPU TDP or combined 250W CPU+GPU. Even if it has to grow in size to support it. If people want thin and light, choose the 7670, 5770, 5570, 5470. There is no reason to castrate the 7770 at its asking price if it is still reasonably portable. In the past people somehow managed to carry around machines like the M6800 despite it being larger and heavier.
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I am testing a MSI GE77 which is pretty similar to the Precision 7770. It has easy access to advanced bios options and an EC that support adjustable fan tables. No 4k panel but they do have a nice QHD 240hz panel with wide gamut. The cooling system has plenty of heatpipes and venting to properly cool it at 250W combined load. No battery drain under combined loads either as it has a 330W AC Adapter. The warranty is not as good as they only have a three year mail in option.
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GE76 Raider 11UH FHD 360Hz to WQHD or QHD
win32asmguy replied to JeanLegi's topic in Components & Upgrades
Really interested in the result for this. I wonder if the same process could be used to downgrade the CreatorPro X17 display from UHD 120hz to FHD 360hz without need for the cable adapter. -
I do not think its related to installed components. Mine has FHD display, 32GB CAMM and a single SSD. Its 3080Ti is limited to 120W regardless of driver installed, CPU power consumption, or GPU temperature. If a fix is found it would be great to test it out.
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Have you noticed any issues with games / apps with the 3080Ti active freezing in Hybrid graphics mode? I have also noticed that periodically I get a black screen on Chrome if a page has a video active. Using the latest posted Intel / Nvidia drivers from Dell on Windows 10. I haven't tried 22H2 yet to see if it helps but may later tonight.
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You did try adjusting IA AC LoadLine values, correct? So far as I know all of the bios from Dell still have it defaulting to an incorrect value resulting in very significant CPU overvolting increasing heat and reducing performance. I think with that adjustment, a good heatsink with good contact, it should be able to hit 17k in CBR23 with no e-cores, maybe up to 18k if you win the silicon lottery. Sustained would be less, likely in the mid 16k range but it is still a good boost over what 11900hk could do at higher power limits and noise. Also curious about eGPU results. I know someone had a 7760 with a Gen4 M.2 eGPU desktop 6900xt which scored over 20,000 in Timespy for comparison. With a setup with nice external displays its probably a significant frame rate boost over any mobile Nvidia chip, at decent pricing now that mining is in a dormant phase.
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Sounds great! Thats in the top 5% of for short burst CPU performance for any laptop. Sounds like a winner, especially if the Sunon fans on yours do not make that creaking noise when they cycle on.
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The best I have seen from Dell was the Alienware 51m R2 which had an optional CPU side vapor chamber. It could easily handle higher CPU loads at lower noise as it prioritized cooling over weight and size. Even better you could purchase a binned processor from eBay or silicon lottery to overcome the issue of getting a bad BGA CPU (and keep the good one if a mobo replacement were needed). Such a machine probably was never destined to become a Precision though, as most mobile workstation users want something portable even as a DTR.
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Oh wow can it resume from S3 standby reliably? 7560 had issues with that even if S3 were enabled via hidden options. Although these days with fast ssds I found using block sleep then cold booting was best as having it randomly waking in my backpack while traveling was VERY bad and not worth the risk of it baking itself.
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An NH55J refresh should be "low hanging fruit" from an engineering stance, so long as Nvidia 4000 mobile designs can be dropped in with minimal modification.
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From this post from Tom at XMG it sounds like Clevo did not have direct support from AMD on the AM4 laptops: https://www.reddit.com/r/XMG_gg/comments/xveejf/we_regret_to_inform_you_that_we_see_no_further/ So anything AM5 might be less likely. I think historically Intel has been a better partner with Clevo for building their DTR models. I would be happy to see one or at least a NH55J refresh with Raptor Lake support and 4070 mobile with a working MUX. Even better if they offered it in the 17 inch form factor so it could take the larger 97WH battery, have additional USB-C ports and better cooling / ventilation.
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The sunon fans on the 7770 heatsink do make a creaking noise when they cycle on. I asked the support rep who sent me the replacement heatsink if we could have the fans always run at a minimal speed via a bios option.
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Yeah it was pretty harsh. It is very upgrade friendly so appealing in that regard. Which bios version are you running from Prema? I noticed last night that a 1.07.08 is available from https://repo.palkeo.com/clevo-mirror/NH5xJNN(Q)_R(Q)_PS(Y)/ so I want to ask Eurocom if they have their variant of it as well. Too bad still no Service Manual posted with schematics.
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It does not help that there is something about it that hurts each potential use group. Overclockers do not want it due to lack of Z690 and low CPU power cap, DTR crowd does not want it because no 128GB memory or 4x SSD slots, T&L do not want it because its thicker and heavier than most 15 inchers and not as good battery life, Gamers do not want it because its a low TDP 3070Ti without MUX/AdvOptimus.
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Ah, what is the likelyhood to order one of these to USA? Be happy to test out something that is an improvement over the stock radiator!
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Also useful for M.2 eGPU adapters. It has great bandwidth with none of the latency overhead of thunderbolt and easy access with the door.
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We might try using RW Everything to monitor EC memory area and see if some addresses map to fan speed control. That is essentially how MSI implements their fan control (and interfaces to it via their GUI software), so you can write six Temperature Threshold + Fan Duty combination values for each fan. You can see more about this mapping table I described here: https://github.com/YoyPa/isw/wiki/MSI-G-laptop-EC---Rosetta Its just a hunch but if things have changed from their previous implementation the new design may be accessible via the EC memory area now.
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Ah, good point. The bios may be adhering to those hidden settings or even the power plan fan policy. In the past I think the Dell EC ignored them and used a custom hard coded curve based on which of the four dell performance modes you were in. One of my biggest pet peeves about laptops is that virtually no manufacturer has bios options for custom fan curves similar to what you would find even on a cheap $150 desktop motherboard. The only exception to it is system76 which allows you flash a customized EC with user defined fan curves to certain models they offer.
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I am just glad we were able to improve things up from the initial worse multi core results. I still wish we had a bios option to force the fans to run at a minimum speed on AC power!
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I think Nvidia does not support the Geforce GPU's under Linux, at least not in a capacity where if a bug is reported with their driver they guarantee any timetable for a fix. As far as unofficial support I have found the cards work as good as most other gaming laptops with the same card. I have not tried Ubuntu but could maybe try swapping SSD's over the weekend and doing a quick install to see if it has the same issue compared to Fedora 36 with 5.19.13.
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Its the pro version of the GT77. No light bar on the back and the keyboard is membrane instead of mechanical so its very quiet. It also has a decent three year onsite warranty included for the price which is great as the previous MSI workstation laptops were mail in only. Of all the workstation devices this one has the best bios as everything is accessible via the advanced unlock. Oh, and it also has modular wifi, and the ethernet is 2.5g. Also it supports S3 sleep which is less likely to randomly wake while traveling or otherwise.
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Yeah, the Precision is probably not the best choice if you need closest to desktop CPU performance. I am also testing a MSI CreatorPro X17 with a 12900HX and it can score up to 25,500 in CBR23 with max fans enabled.
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Fedora 36 with Kernel 5.19 has been working pretty well for me on the Precision 7770 with xorg+intel only. There was an issue with 5.19.12 that broke the iGPU driver (black screen with flickering) for 11th and 12th gen laptops, but that has been fixed with 5.19.13. Is that the issue you experienced? As far as Linux laptop experiences go the Precision is pretty good, other than the fact that it only support Modern Standby which I have to deactivate via the Block Sleep bios option.
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The part number is RPD7J from the packing list. If you do order one be sure to also check each thermal pad and ensure they are sitting squarely in place, and try to only do 1-2 turns on each screw in the pattern until they all bottom out.
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I am not sure if there was a bad batch but I did not mind trying to replace mine as it was easy to order and install myself. I am happy the new replacement heatsink has higher quality thermal compound on the CPU side. Its a sad thing that there are some reported issues but the tolerances are only tighter on this generation of products so its not something easy to get perfect on the first try. There is still not another option out there with 17 inch FHD, 12900HX, Windows 10 support, 3080Ti GPU, and generally professional aesthetics.
