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*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
jaybee83 replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
duuude, jealous! keep us updated on if u can reach that fabled 8000! for now ill settle with M-Die at 6800-7000 😛 LOL i was wondering why u said RPL launch today/tomorrow, isnt their announcement still like a month away or so? in any case, good to know pricing already! is pretty much in line with the leaks. -
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jaybee83 replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
from their perspective its the other way around tho: that 95C is a set target to let the chip boost as much as possible to get the max performance out of a given cooling method. cpus becoming more and more like gpus with fluent boosting behaviour and set target temp. were still able to switch off that target and do manual tuning tho, so best of both worlds. always good to have options! -
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jaybee83 replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
considering it made existing AM4 coolers (mostly) compatible with AM5 it was a good move. and for most consumers not really something they would lose a thought about. us freaks will at least now still have the option to further unleash the beast 🙂 -
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jaybee83 replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
oh yeah sure, i forgot that folks here focus on LONGEVITY OF THEIR HARDWARE! especially when benching their stuff to a micron of its life 🤣 @Ashtrix nice write up with detailed analysis as usual bro, good job -
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jaybee83 replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
absolutely, 20+ C lower is totally insane! and delidding doesnt seem to be as difficult as expected due to the SMDs on the cpu top. im curious to see how much improvent a simple delid and relid would bring. also, im betting custom IHS with SMALLER thickness could be incoming for Zen 4. maybe even with larger contact area? in any case, ill be on the lookout for that stuff 🙂 on a side note, anyone noticed this new teamgroup ram kit yet? DDR5-7200 incoming! surprisingly cheap, as well, considering DDR5 pricing. https://www.newegg.com/team-32gb/p/N82E16820331923?Item=N82E16820331923 -
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jaybee83 replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
yep i noticed the same, GN was suspecting scheduling issues from the game side. all in all though surprisingly little issues mentioned. but best to check for real user input for this kinda stuff, since reviewers tend to run things utlra vanilla stock. judging by the data ive gathered to far, Zen 4 beats ADL by a mile in terms of productivity, but only catches up / barely beats it in gaming. so RPL could be slightly behind in productivity and slightly ahead in gaming. should be very interesting match up! -
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jaybee83 replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
good to know that the first thing im gonna change in bios would be TjMax to 115C, lets goooooo 🤣 -
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jaybee83 replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
aaand we are live: time to watch! enjoy guys 🙂 -
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jaybee83 replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
ouch, i felt that zing! 😛 thx for the clarification, that makes more sense now. i agree with the notion that even though AMD is actually kicking Intel in the butt and managed to get them "up to speed" again, it still seems like Intel is just doing the bare minimum to barely stay on top, even if its just on single thread performance. at the same time, AMD seems to have gotten a taste of "being on top" and what do we get? core stagnation. they could have surely progressed to a 24 core top sku, but why bother, right? from a business perspective, it doesnt make sense to go all out if there is no actual need. in this context, im very very curious about how Intel will react to the X3D 7000 cpus next spring. afaik they dont really have anything in the pipeline to directly address that, except maybe a 13900KS overclocked to kingdom come? 😅 MLID recently made a good point on this, i.e. with X3D AMD might be in a position to basically offer 13900K gaming performance in a frigging laptop (thin n light crap of course), Intel wont have anything to offer against that since they cant go stupid in terms of wattage in a laptop form factor. but hey, who knows, maybe THATLL finally be motivation enough to bring back the glory days of big fat desktop laptops 😄 all that being said, i think we also shouldnt step into the trap of "expecting too much". best example was all those rumours for the 40 series listing ever more crazy performance claims, 2x, 3x, 4x or even more. same for wattages going to 800W+ at stock. im not saying that none of those numbers MIGHT come true in the future (4090Ti) or in some special use cases (Nvidiot Racer X "game"), but the gist of the matter being: it would be silly to be disappointed at 50+% generational performance jumps! this doesnt include pricing of course, purely performance perspective. hey bud, did u forget to add something to my quoted message? its just tacked on at the end of ur post 😄 -
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jaybee83 replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
crap...about 150€ more than i expected / was hoping for. then again, some other shop in Spain listed the same card for 2050, so theres still hope....besides, still early! we still got 2.5 more weeks to go! fingers crossed! thanks for the headsup btw 🙂 first up: no fanboy here, ive had both intel/amd cpus and nvidia/amd gpus going to whatever camp offers the best deal for my needs and wants. that being said.... what exactly is "meh" about almost 30% more single thread performance and 25-42% more multi thread performance inside a single cpu gen? those kinda jumps we usually only see on the gpu side. look back a few years and this wouldve been unheard of! this kind of perf progression is basically what we got back in the Sandy Bridge days, only now we get these kinda jumps from BOTH intel and AMD! seriously, whats not to like about this? -
yup same here. too bad, i was getting into the reading flow and suddenly got interrupted by the missing images 😄 will check back again later!
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nope not yet, well have to wait a bit for RPL firmware updates. and yes ure right regarding the limited power budget we have available. thats why its good to have the option to disable e cores and use the (expectedly) improved P cores. or maybe go with an RPL cpu that still includes the 8 P cores but less e cores. but then well have to check and see if worse binning would play a role...
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*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
jaybee83 replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
and now just imagine how much closer we could get to RT image quality with all those added cuda cores instead of RT and Tensor cores on the die! welp, from nvidias point of view this makes more financial sense of course since 1) they can use the same or very similar dies across their whole line up, including for gamers, creators, AI, servers, HPC, etc and 2) they can BS market proprietary stuff that sets them apart from the competition and makes them "oh so special". funny though how AMD is able to offer similar of not same functionality with just regular old gpu cores, eh? 😛 yeah big difference here, i dont do much benching anymore except as part of hardware optimizations and performance validation / to get to know new hardware. once i got my everyday settings dialed in i leave it as is and use the machine for work / gaming. always best to look at third party info, so ur input here is very helpful already! soooooo tell me: if you ever give up on PC hardware n benching as a hobby, what would be the next best thing? somehow i cant imagine @Mr. Fox doing pottery or gardening instead (especially in the arizona desert lulz). how about joining a motorcycle gang or maybe switch to desert buggies including tinkering with the gear yourself 😁 definitely something along the lines of a grease head hahaha -
best of luck bud! keep us updated on your progress and be sure to follow up with pictures of this whole undertaking, definitely super interesting stuff! 🙂
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HI! Nice to meet everyone after the dust settled
jaybee83 replied to Spiritsong's topic in New here? Introduce Yourself
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jaybee83 replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
problem is always the wife approval factor and the flexibility of your wallet 😄 i feel ya! haha dunno yet what settings im gonna use for the RGB, but its not a high priority tbh. gonna feel my way through the build first, its been a hot minute! im thinking of opening up a component list / order / build / presentation thread to showcase the new baby 🙂 should be fun! its hilarious to see how much "good value" the 4090 is compared with the crap 4080 cards below it 😄 makes u wonder why so many tech enthusiasts are becoming more and more cynical, eh? helps u deal with the fax... all power to AMD, for sure. ill be cheering the red team on to crush Nvidia's 40 series, even with a 4090 tucked in my system. i mean, heck! Moore's law is dead actually QUOTED Nvidia's own engineers being surprised by the steep pricing of the 40 series and ACTUALLY ROOTING FOR AMD AT THIS POINT! imagine that for a second, how messed up is that? i for one think one of the major reasons the 40 series is clocked and powered SO damn high is for team green to make sure they stay on top of AMD. this likely means AMD has something SERIOUS to counter offer in November...lets watch the showdown and hope for some good competition, especially with Nvidia being such a dick lately. funny actually, i saw this max. 30 cycles note on Zotac's website while researching 4090 cards from AIBs and bam 1-2 days later Jay makes a video about that 😄 in any case, this whole situation makes one very cautious when choosing the power supply. im currently set on the latest Seasonic TX-1600, although its not fully ATX 3.0 specced ("only" up to 1000W for ATX 3.0), but the only alternative right now is a Thermaltake 1650W 80Plus Gold psu with ATX 3.0. ugh....i hope more options will come out SOON, otherwise how am i gonna keep this monster gpu juiced? hey bro, I heard you're a bit tight on storage... 🤣🤘 (but look whos talking, amirite? haha) thats a big fat nothing burger out of the box without any context, i.e. ambient temps, cooling setup, etc. as for those DLSS 3 "fake frames" im kinda curious of this tech. if this turns out to be somewhat well implemented it might be a nice way to postpone next-gen gpu purchases for a while in the future. i know i know, for now only 40 series supported, but backport to 30 series or even open source alternative from AMD wouldnt be out of the question. -
welp thats a kick in their reputation... havent seen or heard about that, but havent been following latest thermal paste developments. still using my bigass tube of kryonaut, gonna last me a while longer 😄 in combo with my huge supply of Gallinstan supercheap ebay LM haha so what exactly was wrong with it? pump out / drying? high variance between batches? unwanted separation of components?
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sounds nifty but also kinda annoying if not implemented properly. i for one am a pretty straight shooter in this regard, i just disable all sleep states / hibernation features entirely and just use high perf ON or machine switched off 😛 NO WAY! Geforce Experience causing problems?! YOURE LYING! 🤣
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back on topic guys, i really hope we can bring this machine over to Raptor Lake, pimp it up with a 24 core 32 thread 13900K, wouldnt that be sweet 🙂 definitely in the books as an upgrade path sometime down the line for my lady! but ill first wait for prices to come down... next week ill be sniping a 7950X and having my eyes on an ROG X670E Extreme mobo to go along with it. lets see how many kidneys ill have to give up for that combo 😅
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jaybee83 replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
black is sleek for sure! my new built will also be quite blacked out, although i got some RGB sprinkles here and there to make it pop a bit. -
hmmm....remains to be seen how "unaffected" Nvidia will be. especially considering that EVGA made up a whopping 40% of the gpu market in the US, those are crazy numbers! plus it opens the door for the remaining AIBs to make their voices heard, add to that the reputation damage for Nvidia...although I have to say there wasnt much left to damage, anyways lulz
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HI! Nice to meet everyone after the dust settled
jaybee83 replied to Spiritsong's topic in New here? Introduce Yourself
u got the right one, id say by now NBT can be considered the official NBR replacement 🙂 welcome back into the fold! -
wooo one more to join the NBT partay! welcome back mate, looking forward to your input here in the Clevo section 🙂 NBR Clevo gang FTW 🤘