Mr. Fox

Well it looks like Safedisk got handed another extraordinary silicon sample, as usual. I wonder how many ASUS had to bin and cull to find this one. Unless you have one this good I don't think it's possible to find much benefit in owning an X870E Apex if you have an average 9950X/X3D sample. $800 is too costly to justify with an average CPU. The Gene gave me no real benefit over the Cabron other than the crappy gamerboy MSI firmware that is missing important settings.

https://www.overclock.net/posts/29442873/

About 2,000 points higher than my best.

Speaking of bin quality, I need to do more testing to confirm it, but I think my second 9950X might be a lot better than the first one installed in the Gene.

3 hours ago, Reciever said:

I was going to replace the TIM this last weekend but I forgot that the previous owner nearly stripped the screws, I need to get some replacements first before applying PTM7950

1 hour ago, Reciever said:

Anyone here know what kind of screws I should be looking to get for my Red Devil 7900XTX? 

 

Im open to buying a kit or something if its around 30 bucks or less

Need to know what size, but you can get them on Amazon. Probably M2 or M2.5 but you need to measure the diameter and length to be certain. There is a wild variance in screw length that varies with PCB thickness and air space between the PCB and back plate. I also HIGHLY recommend going with stainless steel. I won't use anything else for this. Stainless is harder metal and won't strip out as easily. If you go with Allen or Torx head that will be even better to avoid stripping, and they look nice.  That is where I generally purchase mine. The soft black steel screws used to assemble most GPUs are just trash. I have stripped the heads out many times before with the perfect screwdriver size. The metal is just too soft to not be damaged. If the screws are super tight the screw metal is too soft to loosen them. It is extremely annoying because there is nothing you can do to prevent it.

Stainless screws are best for everything unless you need to reach a tight spot with a long magnetized screwdriver. They are not very magnetic and won't stay attached. Otherwise, use nothing else IMHO. I also used to replace all of my laptop screws with stainless for the same reason.

On 3/16/2025 at 4:53 PM, Mr. Fox said:

I am trying to decide what case to use now. I've got in on the open bench until I decide. Probably going to go with a Montech AIR 903 MAX, but I don't want to make a snap decision. I don't want to spend a lot. I don't want something too small or something too large.

Yeah, I am probably still going with that one. Best bang for the buck, I think. Hopefully I will get one without the mesh grill bent. For some reason that seems like a common issue. Cooler Master HAF 500 is comparable but flimsy in comparison according to reviews. I think I will go with MONTECH Metal Pro fans to replace those on my EK 360 AIO. I don't care about LED colors, but I want white light from the fans. They have very high static pressure. Not quite as high as P12 Max that I bought, but much better than most and very close to the static pressure at lower RPM. (The lower RPM is probably what accounts for the modest difference. The P12 Max spins faster and consequently louder.) 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0DJ4MWMPY?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&th=1

29 minutes ago, jaybee83 said:

damn thats crazy, right smack between the 3090 Ti and 4090, talk about bang per buck!

Yes. Pretty respectable at 4K and with RT on as well. Something AMD has always struggled with. This GPU was less than half the price of my "inexpensive" Gigabyte 4090. Although 4090 is clearly better, it is not scaling with price and is not giving double the performance. It's roughly one-third the price of what I paid for the 4090 Suprim. It's nice you can finally run ray tracing on a red card without it collapsing into a nasty-looking slide show.

4 hours ago, electrosoft said:

 

Not bad at all! How about a Timespy Extreme run?

 

 

Here you go. Nothing optimized, just running with other programs and things active during work. For some reason I could not get the upload to associate with my UL account. It appears to be associated with no one. I tried to upload it again and it got rejected as a duplicate.

https://www.3dmark.com/compare/spy/36499097/spy/54229331/spy/40812238#

1 hour ago, electrosoft said:

Not bad at all! How about a Timespy Extreme run?

Soon. I haven't had time, Just barely had enough time to get everything ready for work today. (I only got 2.5 hours sleep trying to have everything ready for work this morning.)

https://www.3dmark.com/compare/sn/971066/sn/4521744/sn/60378#

5 hours ago, tps3443 said:

Are you building this in a case right?

I am going to, but have not purchased one yet.

12 hours ago, Reciever said:

Let me know if you end up splitting off that 3090Ti, might be interested in snapping it up.

 

Last high-end EVGA card, worth keeping in the "family" in my book.

I sure will. I agree. I kind of hate to part with it, but that's a sickness I am trying to cure myself of.

Trying to decide what case to use now. I've got in on the open bench until I decide. Probably going to go with a Montech AIR 903 MAX, but I don't want to make a snap decision. I don't want to spend a lot. I don't want something too small or something too large. I really wish the ASUS Prime A21 would fit an ATX mobo. It's perfect otherwise. Clean, classic plain aesthetics and well built. I probably won't find a better alternative than the AIR 903 at that price point. 

The B850 AORUS Elite booted my TeamGroup XTREEM 8200 memory XMP without any hiccup. So far it seems to perform the same as the Gene. That's why I changed my mind on the X870E Apex. I am using dual NVMe cards in BOTH of the extra PCIe x16 slots and the GPU is still running PCIe 5.0 @ x16.

If anyone remembers me commenting about my 4K ASUS 144Hz monitor having issues booting with the Apex / 4090, it is definitely something weird with that monitor. The 9070 XT would not boot connected to it. I had to use HDMI on a 1080p display when I initially set it up. It boots fine connected to my new Predator dual 4K 160Hz monitors. What is weird is the 4090 and 9070XT will boot from it fine after connecting the display in Windows, until I clear the CMOS and then it hangs during boot on both systems. That's just weird. I don't know if it is an EDID problem or what. It's annoying to have to fart around with that. I'll probably get rid of it and replace it with a Predator display like the two I purchased.

I haven't done any testing with it yet, but this AORUS Elite 9070 XT GPU is built like a brick house. The GPU support bracket bolts to the chassis (motherboard tray I think, but I haven't studied it closely enough) and then bolts onto threaded inserts in the end of the fan shroud. And, this sucker is really heavy. I'm both shocked and impressed by the build quality. It's actually made better than the Gigabyte 4090.

4 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

I spent all day yesterday getting my work PC ready to sell (the Edge build with the direct die EK AIO) and assembling my new "work PC" to replace it.

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1XZy7xt3LH/

https://imgur.com/a/jZYQXiC

I did not post it in the marketplace here because I do not know anyone in this community that lives here, and would prefer to not ship it. If anyone here wants to come for a visit and take it home, my door is always open.

On 3/14/2025 at 7:47 PM, Papusan said:

Yup. No reason to upgrade. And you don't even need to pay for the extended service for Win 10 to keep it secure. Just use the LTSC version. 

 

And, the good part is that you don''t even have to install LTSC/ioT Enterprise. (I hate how that sounds so stupid... LTSC was a more intelligent name, but we're talking about the Redmond Retards, so I digress.) Just convert to LTSC/ioT Enterprise with a PowerShell script and you're good to go. https://massgrave.dev/#Method_1_-_PowerShell

21 hours ago, Rage Set said:

Soon, I will likely be offering members of this particular thread free decorative fan grills (all you have to do is pay the shipping). I am currently testing the best materials to use, as some filaments are prone to warping or even melting under temps above 50 to 60C. 

 

Here is an example that I like https://www.printables.com/model/562113-skull-fan-grill-120mm I am also designing my own. 

Awesome stuff,  brother. Is the 3D printing less expensive?  See below

18 hours ago, Reciever said:

A bit of a bummer of the current GPU market is that it has even inflated the prices of older GPU's as well. 

Every now and then I like to look around for random older GPU's that I missed out on when I was younger or cards I had back in the day. Couple of years ago I bought a GTX 295 for 25 USD, now they want around 100 USD, GTX 590 at best is the same price. Cant even see that many HD 6990's.

 

Settled for a Arctic Accelero Xtreme 5970 cooler for one of my 5970's for now. Was able to get a couple of arctic coolers for my GTX 690's a while back so I guess until GPU prices come down i'll revisit aftermarket coolers. 

 

 

It's everything relating to tech now, but GPUs are the worst example of it. I am about fed up now. Very seriously considering selling off the Z790 Apex build entirely, including the MO-RA radiator/pumps assembly, 5 gallon reservoir and water chiller. I know if I do it will be a massive loss. I can't ship all this stuff because it is all too huge and extremely heavy. Someone will have to drive here and take it away. I spent all day yesterday getting my work PC ready to sell (the Edge build with the direct die EK AIO) and assembling my new "work PC" to replace it. I got a cheap B850 AORUS Elite and 9950X to go with the 9070 XT. I feel very fortunate to have purchased the GPU at the appropriate price and the mobo dirt cheap. More to follow once I get done and ready for work tomorrow. Still have to finish setting up the new work PC and clean up the mess before tomorrow.

I am also seriously considering putting the air coolers back on both 4090s and using a cheap AIO. If it doesn't cool well enough I will just run stock or at a lower overclock.

I cancelled the X870E Apex pre-order. I got to thinking about it and it's kind of pointless with a Ryzen CPU. Judging between the Gene and the cheap B850 AORUS Elite, there is really no difference to speak of because AMD has limited overclocking capacity either deliberately or the architecture itself is limited. Why pay $800 for an awesome board if the outcome is going to be the same as a POS motherboard?

MSI has no plans to release any Radeon RDNA 4 graphics cards. Maybe the more realistic and acceptable pricing thresholds for Radeon cards doesn't offer enough profit margin or a large enough cushion for compulsive overpricing to fit MSIs need for greed. There is also the possibility that too many people buying AMD video cards are inclined to be self-governed based on a realistic value proposition rather than driven by irrational passion. Scalping AMD cards is likely less of a succesful endeaver for the same reason. Whether the GPUs are better or worse holds less meaning than offering an acceptable price-to-performance value proposition.

https://overclock3d.net/news/gpu-displays/msi-is-skipping-amds-radeon-rx-9070-series/

AMD’s Radeon RX 9070 series has been released, and it has been a highly successful launch for AMD. However, one brand was notably missing from AMD’s RX 9070 series lineup. Where is MSI? Will there ever be MSI RX 9070 series GPUs?

In a statement to Tom’s Hardware, MSI has reconfirmed that they will not be making any AMD RDNA 4 graphics cards. When it comes to GPUs, MSI’s focus is on Nvidia and its GeForce RTX series GPUs. MSI will remain an AMD partner, but that partnership doesn’t currently extend to AMD’s Radeon GPU lineup.

Quote

 

Regarding your question, MSI is not manufacturing AMD GPUs this generation.

– MSI to Tom’s Hardware

 

1 hour ago, electrosoft said:

Locking down XOC on the 5090 even more......

 

Nvidia = Anti-fun

 

Turned down a Ventus 5090 OC today for $2650+tax.... Remember when it was launched at $2199? *sigh*

 

This is the world we live in now. It has been this way for a few years now, but progressively getting worse. This is one of the reasons EVGA told NVIDIA to kiss their butt. It sucks that my/our interest in overclocking is being systematically killed by idiocy like this. They are making it all about them and no longer a mutually amicable relationship. Charging extremely high prices for basically crippled products with manufacturer-controlled results is an unforgivable sin and treachery. This deals a death blow to the overclocking sport. That death blow reciprocates by way of me no longer having a desire to purchase their functionally-limited products. Having my results (or lack thereof) predetermined and metered to the level of their choosing is unacceptable. Bestowing special privileges to a select small group of individuals and excluding all others based on an arbitrary decision by NVIDIA and/or their AIB cartel partners generates great malice, an enormous sense of contempt and an overall lack of respect or regard for the well-being and financial solvency of their companies. If I cannot benefit from their existence on my terms, their existence no longer matters to me and my preference would be that they cease to exist.

23 minutes ago, jaybee83 said:

but then again...everything will be leaked sooner or later 😛 

Sometimes. Not always, and almost never when the leak is still relevant or useful. Usually when nobody cares anymore and only when peasants are excited about owning obsolete products.  More and more it is gravitating toward never. You have the AIBs playing favorites as well as their tiny group of predestined beneficiaries that want to insultate themselves from having to compete with aspiring overclockers. This is organized cheating and deceptive orchestration of publicity stunts. I hate to say it, but what we see on HWBOT is all staged and rigged results that are achieved only by select individuals. Legitimate competition is generally absent and not even possible now. It makes it difficult to even care at this point.

2 hours ago, tps3443 said:

They did think I was a scammer. Great point. And I typically do want PayPal F&F. ALWAYS. lol. 
 

After I sold the GPU and accepted payment from someone else, they were reaching out to me trying to see if I’d accept a PayPal F&F payment on a GPU that was already marked sold. (two different people did this) I think they were just playing with me or something at that point. I’d never do that. 

I am not sure of the venue where you sold it, but if it was overclock.net marketplace I could see people being wary of scammers because there were some hacked accounts where scammers were coming out of the woodwork recently. I remember one guy whose account got hacked had 4 or 5 RTX 4090 being offered for a suspiciously low price. It is generally a very trustworthy group of people to trade with apart from those examples.

3 hours ago, tps3443 said:

Are you swapping from the 9950X to a 9950X3D?

No. I have no interest in X3D. It's of zero value to me. The only thing that would make it interesting to me is if all or most of them have higher overclocking headroom and less disparity between CCD silicon quality. I'd go for one if that were true, but I don't give a hoot about the gaming cache thing. I'd consider paying $200 more for a 9950X3D to gain an average of 10 to 20 FPS on a system already gaming well over 100 FPS to be a frivolous waste of my money and a benefit I would seldom use. Unfortunately, the X3D chips are clock-blocked like all the others. Your max functional core ratio is more or less what the Red Team Nazi dictatorship decides it is going to be before the product is released to manufacturing.

10 minutes ago, Papusan said:

 

Hence they are forced into Gaming In the Cloud. Sad reality if you want to game the newest game titles. And games has become more taxing on the graphics cards. 

 

The cheapest low tier cards will run faster into being unusable. That will also increase the costs for those that have less budget. Both game studios,nvidia and AMD is to blame for this. Same with Intel as well.

The smart ones... if any of them actually are smart... will figure out that cloud gaming will end up costing them more over time than the cheapest but still overpriced poor value entry-level gaming GPUs.

8 minutes ago, Papusan said:

 

Nvidia don't agree... 

 

MSRP a myth? NVIDIA says no, GeForce RTX 50 Series prices to stabilize soon

 

 

Those on low budget buy cheaper cards as 200-300$ and play older/cheaper games.... But new times means mid range cards is now above $600. And newer AAA games demand better than low tier 200-300$ cards.  

I think there could be a significant number that say no to the cheapest cards because the cost is still more than their budget. Kind of like how some of us say "hell no" to 5090 scalper prices. The MSRP of the cheapest GPUs will be more than some are able or willing to spend. Potentially quite a few. This may also keep demand and prices of used obsolete GPUs higher than they would have otherwise been. These are the people that love their $150 RX 580 are GTX 1550 GPUs. Will they pay $300 for the same tier of performance? Not sure, but I would take a guess the answer is no.

1 hour ago, electrosoft said:

Steam hardware survey begs to differ:

 

https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/

There are lots and lots of casual gamers. A lot more than those that refer to themselves as "hardcore gamer" (LOL). They use cheap parts and turn down settings, and they are pleased to no end to get 60 FPS at 1080p. Probably the majority. They have RGB so they pretend it is awesome even when it is not.

54 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

How does the RTX 5080 FE overclock? Are the temps comparable to bigger coolers? Isn’t that the same cooler the RTX 5090 FE has? 

No idea if it is accurate, but what I have heard is they overclock pretty well, but performance does not scale and actually might see some regression in performance without a loss of stability.

2 hours ago, jaybee83 said:

LOL i had to laugh hard at this, so basically owning a 4090 absolutely MAXIMIZES your chances of "winning" that 5090 purchase lottery... thats crazy.

 

322 out of total 820 4090 owners got an email, thats 39.3%

37 out of 1847 non-4090 owners got en email, thats 2.0%

 

thus, owning a 4090 increases your chances by 20-fold(!!!), insane 😄 

1 hour ago, tps3443 said:

So I think being an enthusiast increases your chances. Many of the people selected owned a RTX 4090, 4090 laptop, previously owned a 3090, 2080, 1080. Nvidia can see all of our hardware history and gaming activity. 
 

So, I truly believe Nvidia is selecting real hardware enthusiast lol. 

They're catching a lot of flack and ridicule from every direction, as they should. They've had plenty of recent missteps and failures. So, I suspect they want 4090 owners buying the 5090 for publicity, maybe hoping for demonstration what they believe will be a massive upgrade (extra fake frames and software wizardry give that appearance) so that owners of 4090 will post about publicly. I suspect this is an entirely self-serving marketing strategy for them to whatever extent it is relevant. I think it would be naive for any of us to believe for a minute it has something to do with caring about what PC enthusiasts want, or believing that there is any degree of merit or value they place on us. Some of them might care a little bit, but their primary focus is generating revenue from business-facing clientele. We are kind of like a side job for them to tinker with to avoid boredom.

Probably the primary thing they value from PC enthusiasts is positive publicity. They do not get any free advertisements from their business clientele. 

2 hours ago, tps3443 said:

Let me know how the Apex X870 board is. Are these white or black? 

Black, thankfully. Have a look at the images. Link

https://www.overclock.net/posts/29439921/

Pre-Ordered mine at NewEgg

Link

I just received my second 9950X today. I will compare bin/VF/SP rating to the one I have now and use the better of the two in the Apex. The X870E Apex will go into the case the X670E Gene is occupying now. I will use the Gene for in a SFF case like the Z790i Edge is in now, with the 9070 XT as the GPU. Will likely buy another A21 case for that. (Perfect ITX/mATX case IMHO.) Then I will sell the Z90i Edge A21 build with EK Direct Die AIO and the 3090 Ti or 1080 (buyer's choice, latter obviously less expensive) as a complete ready to run system. Or, maybe I will sell the Z790 Apex build complete with the external cooling chilled water package. Or, maybe I won't. Decisions, decisions.

I think I am the third owner on the Z790i Edge that I bought from @electrosoft and that is one mighty little mobo.

We didn't need anybody to tell us Winduhz 11 is a piece of crap because we already knew, but it's nice to have confirmation of the agreement of people that have the ability to influence the easily misled people in the right direction. 

Such a sucky OS. The fact that Windows 10 is EOL later this year doesn't phase me at all. I don't need their support. Just as I did not need their support for Windows 7. Let's hope they don't bend us over and nail us in the hind end with a lack of driver support. 

Windows 10 matches or beats Winduhz 11 at everything. Winduhz 11 is the loser OS, literally and figuratively.

On 3/10/2025 at 6:43 AM, Mr. Fox said:

So, I have finally outgrown my dual 1440p 165Hz Predator displays. They have been outstanding monitors, just not enough screen real estate for the amount of time I spend in Excel and PowerBI every day. Found this awesome deal ($100 off sale) and grabbed two. They are the same size and will fit on my dual monitor stand just fine.

 

https://www.newegg.com/acer-xv273k-v3bmiiprx-27-uhd-160-hz-nitro-ips-black/p/N82E16824011500

 

I received these and got them set up on my work rig. Just... wow... much better display quality than my older ASUS 4K 120Hz display, and these actually even look nicer when turned off. The ASUS screen has a wide bezel and ugly chassis with absurd RGB garbage on the back and a chintzy snap on plastic panel that makes accessing the connections inconvenient. I have never been overly thrilled with how it looks sitting on my desk. (Typical tacky-looking ASUS aesthetics.) And, I don't like that is uses a power brick like a turdbook. That is the only monitor I have owned that is made that way and it sucks.

Speaking of my work computer, it started having problems and ruined my day yesterday. I finally gave up and used my Ryzen build to finish working. It was randomly locking up and Explorer.exe was crashing and restarting randomly. Of course the first rule when you have a computer or cell phone issue is to reboot. That's when things got really bad. It would power on, everything would light up and the fans were spinning, but it would not complete POST. It was getting stuck on the white debug LED (display connection) and not progressing, so I could not access the BIOS or anything. If I waited for like a half hour it would eventually boot up, but Windoze 10 was still behaving very badly. I was really worried that the Edge mobo had failed, the 3090 Ti was failing, or something similarly undesirable.

After work I tried swapping the RAM, tried a different GPU and nothing helped. So, I moved on to testing other things. Next step was disconnecting all four of my SATA drives and *BOOM* instantly functioned flawlessly. I started reconnecting them individually and got to the third one in the stack and instant chaos ensued. So, I replaced that 1TB SSD with a spare I had in an external USB enclosure. It's back to the flawless operation I have always appreciated it for. Now I need to see  if the SSD that died is still in warranty and get it swapped out. I am so relieved it was a SATA SSD. Not a big deal, other than the inconvenience and anxiety that it caused before I found the problem.

To make me even happier, it turns out that it was the Winduhz 11 drive that I haven't booted into for probably 90 days. I did not lose any important files for work, and it was the ideal drive to have failed if one was going to because I just don't care about Winduhz 11 enough for it to matter.

2 hours ago, Reciever said:

I think I'll just sit pretty with my 5800X3D and 7900 XTX. 

 

If anything if I were to pour money into this hobby on the gaming side I'll probably get that ElmorLabs EVC2SE, waterblock and vBIOS to see if I could daily 600w on the Red Devil 7900 XTX. 

 

recently picked up some PTM7950 to see how well it reduces the hotspot temps, might do that this weekend.

 

Also repurposed the 10850K to be my unraid server 🙂

I am looking forward to your report on how well that worked. PTM7950 is perfect for GPUs.

10 hours ago, win32asmguy said:

 

Gaming is one of the reasons.

 

I think the 9950X3D has the non X3D cores so they can hit higher frequencies. I am not sure how high the 9800X3D clocks on air or water but it seemed like it was still less than a 9950X.

 

Even the Xeon needs process lasso to work correctly. If I launch any single core benchmark it runs on any core and not the one clocked the highest or starred in XTU.

 

It would be nice if they released a 9950X special edition with both CCDs a very high bin.

I disable core parking on everything as part of my Windows setup ritual, whether it needs it or not. I also disable power saving features in the BIOS and in Windows. I want everything running full blast at all times. 

More fake pretty ladies. 🤣 No matter what way you look at is, AI is NSFW.

21 hours ago, tps3443 said:

I was totally done with even wanting a RTX 5090 all together. Then this email rolls through. 
 

Im shocked they picked me. Anyways, $1,999 seems right for sure. These $3,000+ prices are just way too much money. So I agree with that 100%. The AIB companies need to ease up on the MSRP’s. 
 

I always thought of AIB cards as +$50 to +$250 more over the FE model at most. And looking at it today they are becoming the scalpers. Nvidia didn’t increase the price of the 5090FE. So I don’t understand why the AIB’s all increased the price before tariffs even hit. Makes me think it’s all fake and purely for profits and more money. 
 

 

That's great and I am very happy that you got what you wanted at a price that isn't off the rails insane. While it is not a "bargain" at that price, I also know that $2,000 is not out of scope for what we paid for 3090 KPE. The only difference is, this being an FE model, there is nothing special about it in terms of overclocking, voltage controls, etc. If decent (better than normal) AIB cards ever sell for that price I might pause to consider it.

22 hours ago, jaybee83 said:

 

snatched a second one at MSRP and cancelled the first one, 30 bucks saved! 😄😄😄

 

i was actually thinking of you bro Fox when reading through the 9950X3D reviews. its regularly beating the 9950X at the same power budget, it seems they kept all the high bin chiplets for this sku (both X3D and non-X3D chiplets). the X3D clocks up to 5.55, with the non-X3D going to 5.7. funny enough, at the stock power budget of 200W the all core clocks 100-150 Mhz higher than the regular 9950X, pointing to improved V/F curves.

 

so the X3D part MIGHT actually overclock better. wanna give it a shot? 😏😁

Fantastic. Super happy for you, bro. I will be looking forward to seeing your max stable overclock and benchmark scores in things such as Cinebench and 3DMark Physics and Combined tests and then decide if I want one. If it delivers $200 worth of improved performance and overclocking capacity than my non-X3D CPU then I will definitely want one.

21 hours ago, Papusan said:

And it will  be even more expensive. And what  will happen when Trump also push tax tariffs over on the next location for HW manufacturers factories? China ain't the only place on the globe getting nice tax gifts from Trump. EU, in short all places get same treatments. Same will happen all over also in Asia countries where they moved away from China. Even Taiwan risk 100% tax tariffs. 

 

Higher prices is doomed to stay forwards. And that before the scalper taxes come on top. 

Asus anticipates price increases as it shifts production from China

 

And congrats bro on the 5090 🙂 Very few contries get same treatment from Nvidia. US may get closer to what Nviidia will offer in China. Aka cards people can buy.

 

It seems Nvidia have a lot 5090 FE cards to offer. I wonder how many chips nvidia keep for themself for the prioritized queue. Why bother with their own AIB partners ? 

 

 

LOOL... 

 

Nvidia GeForce RTX 5050 may feature faster VRAM on laptops than on desktops

Well, if you want an omelet you have to crack some eggs. I think the things he is doing are very good, very necessary and very right. He is almost always right about everything and the vast majority of Americans agree that what is taking place now with DOGE and snuffing out government waste and fraud, balancing trade with other nations so it is benefits us equally or more,  is ruffling the feathers of those that didn't want their scams and crimes exposed. I am very happy about all the things that are taking place and wish they would have taken place 20 years ago and carried through to now. It's going to be harder to manipulate China now than it would have been when they were an economic dumpster, and the longer we maintain status quo the harder it will be to bring them down. It's our fault things are what they are and it's time to correct the mistakes of those that made China a relevant nation to the rest of the world.

Regulators, elected and appointed public servants need to be held accountable, prosecuted and incarcerated for their crimes against the people that pay their salaries. And, as far as China (or any other nation, whether friend or foe,)  goes, it needs to be America first, allies second, enemies nothing. Our government set the mess into motion with China and helped elevate them from a third-world slum nation and our government needs to undo whatever they can. We need to stop caring about whether something helps or harms our enemies and focus on what is best for #1 (us) and #2 (those we trust and are aligned with). Whatever happens to China... que sera sera. Not our problem. If I have to pay more for the crap they produce, including electronics, or not even allow them to export those to us even with tariffs, in order to make that happen, I'm good with that.

1 hour ago, jaybee83 said:

 

boom. snagged one 8 minutes in at 4% above MSRP. can totally live with that 😄 could be here by end of this week! w00t w00t!

 

edit: LOL damn i think i was lucky / fast this time around. the shop i got it from was sold out inside of 3 minutes 😄 

 

edit2: no wait, they just got in more supply. enjoy the race, folks! 😄 

 

edit3: aaand theyre gone again....total 7 minutes in stock lulz

 

edit4: aaaand another supply drip just in. ok, enough with these edits!

 

anyone else here on the hunt?

Congrats, brother. Super happy you got what you wanted. I love when that happens.

42 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

Anyone want a 5090FE? I got a priority access purchase link from Nvidia. I don’t have the funds to use it! lol. 😂 

 

I may try to throw the funds together. 😬 it’s gonna be a hard PUSH to get it done. 

 

isd12

Nope. No interest in 5090 now, and especially not  an FE engineering abortion. Plus, I don't want to reward NVIDIA for being a scummy outfit.

You honestly don't need one. Save your money for something better later on. Minus DLSS 4 and extra fake frames it produces it's not a meaningful upgrade to 4090. If you take those things away it's not that much of an upgrade, even though the ginormous price tag suggests otherwise.

29 minutes ago, win32asmguy said:

 

I thought about trying a 9950X3D.

 

Between the increased latency of the registered memory, limit of around 5.2ghz on air for the 2495x, and the fact that some of my encoding jobs do not scale above 8 cores I was thinking about trying a 9950X3D instead. It would probably be a better chip for WoW given what @electrosoft mentioned with his 9800X3D the other day. Honestly even the tuned Raider 18 felt smoother in WoW with the 7945HX3D paired with the 4090m.

 

Right now is not a great time to build anything though as I am traveling for the next couple of weeks..

The X3D processors are of no special value outside of gaming, but they are the undisputed king in that area.

Everyone else is better served with an ordinary CPU with core parking disabled.

If they are cherry-picking binned silicon for the 9950X3D that might interest me, but we haven't seen enough of them in the wild to know if they overclock significantly higher than non-3D 99550X. If they can do 6.0GHz or higher on all 16 cores that would impress me enough to buy one. Not sure why they did not use 3D cache on both CCDs. That might have been more interesting. Relying on a crap OS like Winduhz 11 to identify the game and manage the CPU behavior is stupid IMHO. If the entire CPU (all CCDs) were equally binned and using cache, with core parking disabled that might be a real hell-raiser CPU. Having only one CCD on cache is a turn-off because it relies on drivers and software to function properly, and expecting it to function properly 100% of the time is probably unrealistic. Having to use a POS OS like Winduhz 11 with special patches and software in order to enable the functionality kills the idea instantly for me.