Mr. Fox

The motherboard will be here tomorrow, but the CPU and RAM are not expected until Monday. To get things ready, I moved the Z490 Dark to the 5000D Airflow to assume its new role as "Banshee" (my work PC). It's ready to rock and roll at work tomorrow.

I am temporarily using the Strix on the Wetbench while waiting for the new parts to arrive.

3 minutes ago, RandomIdiot said:

I remember reading about this before launch. To be honest the thought of "the browser for gamers" kinda made me throw up in my mouth. So considering it seems like most of that crap can be disabled, what benefit does it have over plain old Opera

I couldn't answer that because I haven't used Opera in a while. They may have overhauled it. But, I really like the amount of GUI customization and the ability to manually control what system resources the browser is allowed to consume. It is like everything Chrome should have been, but wasn't.  Chrome on steroids, LOL.

On 2/13/2022 at 5:49 PM, TheRealTechGeek said:

Ok cool I'll probably will. Thanks for the welcome

Nice to have you here, bro. Long time no see, bud.

21 minutes ago, Talon said:

Also a long time Chrome user but I’m willing to check this out as it definitely looks interesting. I run a few plugins/extensions on Chrome so hopefully those are supported here? Either way it looks fresh. 

18 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

Yes, same here. Never thought I would find anything good enough to replace Chrome, but this might do it if anything can.

 

And, yes... you can use Chrome extensions. It is built on Chrome and natively supports Chrome Web Store stuff.

It imported all bookmarks, passwords, etc directly from Chrome. So, I do have to worry about trying to fart around with manually trying to manage 10,000 things that I started saving since the beginning of time, LOL.

1 minute ago, Talon said:

Also a long time Chrome user but I’m willing to check this out as it definitely looks interesting. I run a few plugins/extensions on Chrome so hopefully those are supported here? Either way it looks fresh. 

Yes, same here. Never thought I would find anything good enough to replace Chrome, but this might do it if anything can.

And, yes... you can use Chrome extensions. It is built on Chrome and natively supports Chrome Web Store stuff.

Hey guys. Long time Chrome user here. Before Chrome, Internet Explorer (which I actually still like a lot from a GUI perspective). I have tried hard to like Firefox, Brave, Opera, Vivaldi and Edge and I just can't like any of the browsers that compete with Chrome. They all have too many things that I do not like about them and none are as convenient to use.

Well... that was until a couple of days ago. I stumbled upon Opera GX. Yeah, I know... Opera. I've always viewed it as a joke. But, GX is different. It has a ton of features, looks good, runs extremely fast, and is highly configurable.
 

Opera GX has controls that allow you to set a limit on RAM and CPU resources the browser is permitted to use, and the controls are working really well for me. In Settings you can make the RAM and CPU limiter values persistent.

Naturally, I get rid of the the tacky-looking tiles, fake news and other worthless feces they throw on the default home page. Anything like that sucks to me, and if I can't turn off the news lies and propaganda the woke dummies intend to show me, then I'm not going to give them a platform for them to showcase their stupidity. That just makes me angry. If you are like me, you will want to disable GX Corner so you don't have to see that crap every time you open the browser. But, the bottom line is Opera GX is highly configurable. You can do it your way and stop being part of the sheeple flock.

I never in a million years thought I would be recommending something other than Chrome, and especially not Opera. So, I guess that is a nice example of why it is best to limit the use of the word "never" (unless you enjoy crow meat). Do yourself a favor and check it out. And, don't forget to cast a vote in the poll once you make up your mind.

https://www.opera.com/gx

As I mentioned above, I think this really sucks. So, I turn it off in settings.

@Papusan

29 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

 

Are you planning to delid the 12900k? direct die? Delids do seem to give a nice drop in temps and even out the cores a bit.

 

 

I might. I haven't decided yet. Probably, but maybe not at first. If I can keep it cold enough on chilled water (not likely) then I will not.

So, here is a baseline to compare with the parts that are coming.

No drive caching cheat for artificially high scores.

GPU run with stock clocks.

https://www.passmark.com/baselines/V10/display.php?id=152210758645

56 minutes ago, ryan said:

do you know how I can gift rdr2 from my steam library

 

I do not think that Steam allows you to transfer games from your library to someone else due to the potential for theft, etc. Unless something recently changed, that is not possible.

54 minutes ago, ryan said:

i will gift you guys again, but paps is up next///keep you posted ill shoot you something from time to time but dang I have alot of games I dont use wish there was a way to sell or gift them

Thank you. Definitely appreciate you.

2 minutes ago, ryan said:

do you have red dead redemption 2? its a fun game to benchmark

No, I do not. It looks like a good game.

I generally wait and buy games after the prices fall to around $20 or less and that one hasn't been offered at that low pricepoint yet, even on the Chinese CD Key seller websites.

I own about 325 games and have not played but maybe one third of them. Some I only purchased because they have a built-in benchmark.

Just now, ryan said:

take both, was tired they were cheap but great games

I actually intended to "check" the keys using Steam and planned to post what they are and share with others here. I think that used to work because entering a key first showed you what it was, then you had to click another button to redeem it. When I entered them to "check" they automatically registered to my account and prompted me to install them.

But, thank you very much. Your generosity is  awesome.

2 hours ago, ryan said:

two good games from a while ago....claim 1 not both if you want to share or claim both if you like the first one or dont have it

 

steam keys

Thank you. I did not have either one. I am not sure if you meant to post this in a PM or not. 

16 minutes ago, Papusan said:

Best of luck brother. Regarding the new modern +-5000 speed rated ssd's. You won't feel a difference vs previous gen in ordinary usage. Only special cases and maybe for games. Even an old fashion 2.5" sata ssd works very well in the OS envionment.  But I tend to buy todays tech, not yesterdays. New doesn't always mean better. This apply most of things. 

 

For the Asus boys and girls. It seems not only Dell push trash firmware updates. Will see what will come. But not very reliable/trustworthy f4rom what I can read here...  Z690E and 1103 BIOS

I agree. I really cannot tell any difference in performance between NVMe and SATA SSD unless I run an SSD benchmark. 

I do like the M.2 form factor (NVMe and SATA) a lot because it is convenient to work with and doesn't require any wiring to work.

If the firmware that ships with the Unify-X works correctly then I will have no reason to update it. We are both the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" type and firmware is the fastest and easiest way to turn something good into something that sucks. Updating firmware for no reason other than a newer version has been released is absolutely stupid.

7 minutes ago, Papusan said:

Congrats my friend. and I hope the bad luck finally turn on to the better. Everything won't last forever. And good luck will come back. 

 

Got a new HW for my machine. I always stick to Samsung. Have always done that. Not that the new Pro disk is much better than other similar disks... I still jump on it. And the other brands ssd's is near in price point , so.....

 

 

Here is new pict of my crocks bro @electrosoft 🙂

Nice Crocks, bro. 🙂 

I hope that my series of unfortunate events are over as well. 

I like Samsung NVMe SSDs as well. Since the Unify-X has 5 slots I am going to use the 4 Samsungs that I already have and I ordered a WD Black SN750 500GB Gen 4 to fill the extra slot. 

I am hoping I can just plug and play the Windows 7 installation on the Unify-X without all of the idiotic issues I had with NVMe/M.2 slots on the Z590 Dark causing BSOD issues without the M.2 slots disabled in the BIOS.

18 hours ago, electrosoft said:

I still can't stand Gigabyte boards.

 

My hard limit for a motherboard is $350. $829 + tax is just crazy talk for my wallet atm.

 

I take it you snagged the SP92 on ebay? That looks like a decent sample if that's the one you picked up.

 

Those Hynix ICs are the way to go too!

Yeah, I do not like Gigabutt or ASRock. I have had one of each and was not impressed with either of them, and they were the "good" ones (as if popularity ever mattered). 

Yes, I got that CPU and RAM from the same guy on eBay and got the price down about $50. I ended up paying about $50 over retail for the SP92 to avoid taking my chances in drawing a crap CPU in the lottery. 

The seller was running the RAM at 6200 28-37-37-78 at 1T and tight sub-timings using 1.470V. So, that should be a decent kit. TeamGroup RAM isn't the most tasteful aesthetically, but if the RAM overclocks well I can ignore the looks of it, or replace the heat sinks with something more generic.

18 hours ago, electrosoft said:

When I'm getting ready to discuss something I want to buy, I usually start with a home made meal, make sure any chore list items are finished and then ask if there's anything she's had her eye on and try to establish parity in purchase desire. It works....sometimes.

For this I agreed to take 2 days of PTO from work for a 4-day weekend and repaint the great room (kitchen, foyer, dining and family room). Seems like a fair trade since I knew that was something she was wanting.

19 hours ago, Custom90gt said:

@Mr. Foxgood call on the MSI MEG Z690 Unify-X, it will serve you well when it comes to memory overclocking.  I'm having issues with my Asus Strix not posting if "high voltage" mode for the memory is turned on.  That means I'm stuck at 6400mhz @ CL32.

Thank you. Based on the research I was able to complete among a tremendous amount of marketing noise and lies, that Unify-X does seem like the best option overall. As much as EVGA is my first choice, I am not willing to pay the premium price for an EVGA Dark board. If Brother @Rage Set gets some incredible results from it, I might consider it later on if the MSI board isn't everything I hope it will be. The one thing I do not like about the design of the Dark series--probably the only thing--is the VRM heat sink interfering with placement of a water-cooled GPU backplate. Besides my own less than wonderful experience with ASUS, I have been noticing many things that do not boost my confidence about the brand based on what others are experiencing.

19 hours ago, Tenoroon said:

I see you're finally on the ADL train 😉 Good to see!

I thought you weren't the biggest fan of MSI, but this board seems to be really good for the price and generally really good for memory OC, hopefully you won't have too many problems with it as I know Asus boards have given you hell.

I haven't been impressed by MSI overall and I am kind of going out on a limb here. My only experience with a product made by MSI was the Tornado F5 laptop, so my opinions are only based on what I see, hear and read. They have historically been a brand that caters to gamer-boys and that has been the basis for my not liking them, but the Unify-X does seem like a legit overclocking enthusiast product. I liked Buildzoid's breakdown on the product and at the end of the day I don't care about brand except to the extent it become synonymous with quality (or the lack thereof). I like that MSI ditched the iGPU and the Unify-X doesn't support it at all. I also like that it has dual BIOS, board-mounted buttons and no RGB features on the board (only RGB headers).

OK. Talked to my wonderful wife. She agreed, but it's going to cost me some favors.

12900K - SP92

MSI MEG Z690 Unify-X

TeamGroup 6200 CL38-38-38-78 with Hynix IC

• Moving Z490 Dark components to work computer case
• Selling Z490 Strix with 4000 B-die RAM and 10850K SP84 CPU

9 hours ago, serpro69 said:

 

Some do, but I fear that a lot of people don't actually research anything before installing a new version of Windoors. And with Microsoft using every conceivable trick to push the update on users, I think even more people will get hurt after the fact and won't even know they could avoid it.

I think most of the sheeple do whatever their friends on Facepoot and Twatter tell them is cool and believe whatever they are told to believe. 

1 hour ago, electrosoft said:

 

I had completely stopped visiting that site meaningfully for quite some time now. It was all about here and Spartan's site.

 

I'm very glad @Reciever and @Hiew stepped in and are doing such an amazing job!

I even changed my signature on that digital dumpster fire forum to say I did not visit frequently because of the porn and spam that was not being managed properly and gave links to my profiles at this forum, ExtremeHW and HWBOT forums.

11 minutes ago, ryan said:

@Mr. Fox do you have a program or game you want? or do you want a suprise

Thank you. I sent you a PM.

Just now, ryan said:

yeah what ever I did my computer feels snappier/faster. must be better turned off

It should help lots of things. Run AIDA64 Cache and Memory benchmark with it turned  off and repeat with it turned on and you will see the change in latency. It is nice when a free "upgrade" that takes 1 second does so much that you can feel it in the seat of your pants. But, it remains a mystery what the reason is for the poor performance option to even exist. The fact that it does seems very stupid to me.

17 minutes ago, ryan said:

sa gv was turned on now its off..should i turn it on or off what will i notice/?

A dramatic improvement in memory latency and better overall system performance. Not sure if Gear 1 is SA GV on or off, but whichever option mean Gear 1 in proper vernacular.

The stupid Gear 1/2 foolishness was one of the reasons I did not like Z590 and went back to Z490. There is no idiotic Gear 1, Gear 2 nonsense on Z490. There is no reason for the latter to exist. It does nothing but allow higher RAM clocks at the expense of sloppy loose timings and horrible latency.

15 minutes ago, ryan said:

thanks mr fox...

 

 

 

21000 not bad not good ill be benching for awhile thanks to you this is rad 🙂

 

 

 

7298 at 4k

I think it's probably the most entertaining benchmark there is. Certainly my favorite in terms of entertainment value.

@Papusan I cannot help but wonder how people that do not have a working internet connection are going to read an internet article about how to set up Windows 11 without an internet connection?  🙂

For anyone else having issues with getting their Catzilla product key from Steam to run the standalone downloaded program, this may help: 

 https://steamcommunity.com/app/261920/discussions/0/558750624753422315/

Quick Step Guide to Advanced
1. After running a benchmanrk go onto the results tab of catzilla

2. Click the Submit Results Button.

It will give you a code then before atcually submitting the results

3. Copy that into a txt editor or run box then copy to clipboard (Ctrl+C)

4. Go to the catzilla website

5. Login then go to (http://www.catzilla.com/profil/userdetails)

6. Add / Paste (Ctrl+V) the code you just wrote down in to the "Invite or Steam Code" Box

7. Click update and Boom... Advanced version Code is Generated

8. Goto your Catzilla Profile and copy (CTRL+C) the Connection Mode Code.

9. Go back to the Catzilla App and Click on the Connect Tab.

10. Paste (Ctrl+V) the Connection Mode Code into the box provided...

Boom.. Advanced Mode is now Enabled

Save the key in a text file for future installations. When you are signed in at catzilla.com it will show you that key in your account as well.